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Evidence: The DNC server was not "hacked"

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
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Sunday, July 15, 2018 6:20 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


There is one person who knows the truth about where he got Podesta's emails, and that's Julian Assange. And HE said it was not a Russian, but someone with legitimate access to the files.

So.

No matter how often and how hard Robert Mueller pulls his wanker and tries to come up with some fever-dream about RUSSIA!!! and the DNC server (which, BTW, the FBI never examined) ....

unless he interrogates the ONE PERSON who KNOWS THE TRUTH about where those files really came from, he obviously has NO interest in finding out what really happened

And you should be asking yourselves, WHY is Muller avoiding the most obvious and fruitful line of questioning; WHY is he spending his time on indirect, circumstantial and unsupported lines of inquiry; and WHY did he release this "indictment" just a few days before Trump's meeting with Putin?




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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

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Sunday, July 15, 2018 6:49 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:
kiki you are a waste as a human being. Get with the facts and stop posting irrelevant shit. Go back to your first posts in this thread. Boy have you been losing ground. Every time Mueller follows a lead he finds another Russian hiding under a rock.


Department of Justice
Office of Public Affairs
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Friday, July 13, 2018
Grand Jury Indicts 12 Russian Intelligence Officers for Hacking Offenses Related to the 2016 Election

There is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity or knew they were communicating with Russian intelligence officers. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the vote count or changed the outcome of the 2016 election.

Everyone charged with a crime is presumed innocent unless proven guilty in court. At trial, prosecutors must introduce credible evidence that is sufficient to prove each defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, to the unanimous satisfaction of a jury of twelve citizens.

indictment here
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4599146-Netyksho-Et-Al-Indictm
ent-Copy.html


THUGGER

At least the DoJ knows the difference between 'indictment'/ 'evidence', and 'conviction'/ 'claim', even if you don't.





SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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Sunday, July 15, 2018 7:28 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:
kiki you are a waste as a human being. Get with the facts and stop posting irrelevant shit. Go back to your first posts in this thread. Boy have you been losing ground. Every time Mueller follows a lead he finds another Russian hiding under a rock.


Department of Justice
Office of Public Affairs
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Friday, July 13, 2018
Grand Jury Indicts 12 Russian Intelligence Officers for Hacking Offenses Related to the 2016 Election

There is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity or knew they were communicating with Russian intelligence officers. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the vote count or changed the outcome of the 2016 election.

Everyone charged with a crime is presumed innocent unless proven guilty in court. At trial, prosecutors must introduce credible evidence that is sufficient to prove each defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, to the unanimous satisfaction of a jury of twelve citizens.

indictment here
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4599146-Netyksho-Et-Al-Indictm
ent-Copy.html


THUGGER

At least the DoJ knows the difference between 'indictment'/ 'evidence', and 'conviction'/ 'claim', even if you don't.


SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

Do you really think the Trolls will ever let this sink in?

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Sunday, July 15, 2018 10:46 PM

REAVERFAN


Russian trolls call Americans trolls?




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Sunday, July 15, 2018 11:32 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Do you really think the Trolls will ever let this sink in?

No. Facts are beyond them.

Hence, the name-calling, because they simply have nothing else to say.




SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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Monday, July 16, 2018 2:12 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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In the face of overwhelming demonstration on this board that the "Conservative" posters do not regularly change or redact their posts once the post is completed, while the other end of the spectrum constantly does, your assertion falls thunderously flat.
Well, I DO have to say that when I was excoriating GWB here, the most "patriotic" (pro-military) right-wingers here (GEEZER, FINN, AURAPTOR etc) didn't, as far as I recall, devolve to the point of trolling, name-calling, and libel ... like so many of the self-styled "progressives" here now. They generally stuck to the topic, and discussed issues like adults. The so-called "progressives" who remain here are a particularly noxious bunch of trolls.

BUT. When Obama was elected, the right wing did things like share pictures of Obama with a bulls-eye superimposed, or as a watermelon-and-fried-chicken-eating monkey.

Didn't see that here. Is this your proof that they redacted or erased their postings?
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They whinged endlessly about the "birther" conspiracy

Is this your proof that they redacted or changed their posts?
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And while they were all up-in-arms about Obama opening the government's budgetary veins into health insurance and big pharma coffers
Is this your proof they redacted or erased their posts?
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Also, when they supported GWB with his "unitary executive" they failed to predict that Obama would use the same rationale to write HIS Executive Orders
Is this your proof that they redacted or erased their posts?
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Failed to notice that Obama continued along the same
In your deluded opinion
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Constitution-shredding lines as GWB
is this your proof that they redacted or erased their posts?
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and continued to believe that "trickle down" works
This fact has been posted repeatedly by reasonable folk. Are you claiming that they have redacted or erased posts of this obvious fact?
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So, I find right-wingers HERE to be more polite and on-topic than the so-called progressives, but not any more objective.

You seem to be confused. Just because reasonable folk post facts which do not conform to your political opinion (or your politically biased version of objectivity) does not equate to them rewriting their posted history, changing their posts after you think they are proven wrong - which is the failure of etiquette being discussed.
So try to keep up with the actual topic when the adults are talking, m'kay?

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Friday, March 29, 2019 5:00 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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