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Fake news: CNN; NYT; VICE; WaPo; WSJ. ... now ABC .... It's like a trainwreck, but I can't stop watching

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Wednesday, August 2, 2017 3:54 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.





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About the kid, I’ll tell you what I know. What I know comes off an FBI report. Don’t ask me how. You can figure it out, I’ve been around a long time. The kid, just, I don’t think he was murdered, I, I don’t think he was murdered because of what he knew. The kids a nice boy, 27, he was not IT expert, but he learned stuff. He was a data programmer, but he learned stuff. And so he’s living on one street, someone, in my eyes,- he’s living in a ruff neighborhood and in the exact where he’d been living, as I’m sure you know, there have been about 8 or 9 or 10 violent, uh not robberies, most of them with somebody brandishing a gun and it’s the kids hands, I’m telling you look, I’m sure you know what, his hands are marked up, the cops concluded he fought off the people, tried to run they shot him twice in the back with a 22 small caliper. And then, they, the kids that did it ran, they got scared, they didn’t take his wallet. ...

Ok. So what the cops do is this: And this is where nobody knows, what I’m telling you, and maybe you know something about it. When you have a death like that DC cops, if you’re dead, you don’t just generally go yep I know (unintelligible) you have to get in to the kids apartment and see what you can find. If he’s dead you don’t need a warrant but most cops get a warrant because they don’t know if they’ve guys has, has a, a roommate. You need a warrant. So they get a warrant. I’m just telling you, there is such a thing. They go in the house and they can’t do much with this computer. It’s (unintelligible) the cops don’t know much about it. So the DC cops they have a cyber unit in DC and they’re more sophisticated. They come and look at it. The idea is maybe he’s a series of exchanges with somebody who says I’m going to kill you motherfucker over a girl or… and they can’t get in. The cyber guys do a little better but they can’t make sense of it so they call the, they call the FBI cyber unit, the DC unit.

The Washington field office is a hot shit unit. The guy running the Washington field office he’s like, he’s like, you know, he’s like a three star at an army base he’s already looking for four, you know what I mean? He’s gonna go in a top job. There’s a cyber unit there that’s excellent, given. What you get in a warrant is, the public information you get in a warrant doesn’t include, uh, it does not include the affidavit underlying what, why you are you going in, what the reasons are that.. That’s almost never available, um, I, I can tell you that the existence of a warrant is a public document 99% of the time. So, um, on the same warrant, they call in the feds. The feds get through, and this is what they find. This is according to the FBI report. What they find is he makes cont- first of all this is what you have to know, you have to know some basic facts, one of the basic factors, in that there’s no DNC or Podesta emails that exist beyond May 22nd. May 21st, May 22nd is the last email from either one of those groups. And so what the reports says is that sometime in late spring, we’re talking June you know summers in June 21st, late spring would be after, I presume, I don’t know, I’d just say late spring, early summer and he makes contact with Wikileaks. That’s in his computer and he makes contact.

Now, I have to be careful because I, I’ve know, I, met Julian 10 or 12 years (ago?) I stay the fuck away from people like that, you know. He’s invited me, and when I’m in London I always get a message “Come see me at the Ecuadorian” but I say fuck no I’m not going there I’ve got enough trouble without getting photographed. And he’s under total surveillance by everybody but anyways. So, they found what he’d done. He had submitted a series of documents, of emails. Some juicy emails from the DNC, and you know, by the way all this shit about the DNC, um, you know, whether it was hacked or wasn’t hacked, whatever happened, the democrats themselves wrote this shit, you know what I mean? All I know is that he (Seth) offered a sample, an extensive sample, you know I’m sure dozens of email and said “I want money”. Then later Wikileaks did get the password, he had a Dropbox, a protected Dropbox, which isn’t hard to do, I mean you don’t have to be a wizard IT, you know, he was certainly not a dumb kid. They got access to the Dropbox. He also, and this is also in the FBI report, he also let people know, with whom he was dealing, and I don’t know how he dealt, I’ll tell you about Wikileaks in a second. I don’t know how he dealt with the Wikileaks and the mechanism but he also, the word was passed according to the NSA report, “I’ve also shared this box with a couple of friends so if anything happens to me it’s not going to solve your problem”. Ok. I don’t know what that means.

I don’t know whether you- Anyways, Wikileaks got access, and before he was killed- I can tell you right now Brennan is an asshole. Uh, I’ve known all these people for years. Clapper is sort of a better guy but not rocket scientist, the NSA guy’s a fucking moron, and they don’t- you know the trouble with all of those guys is that the only way they’re going to make it to a board or two and get hired by (?) and get some fat cat contracts is if Hillary stayed in. With Trump they’re gone, they’re done, they’re going to live on their pension, they’re not going to make it. And I gotta tell you guys, they don’t want to live on their pension, they want to be on boards.

I have somebody on the inside, you know I’ve been around a long time, and I write a lot of stuff. I have somebody on the inside who will go and read a file for me. This person is unbelievably accurate and careful, he’s a very high-level guy and he’ll do a favor. You’re just going to have to trust me. I have what they call in my business a long-form journalism, I have a narrative of how that whole fucking thing began, it’s a Brennan operation, it was an American disinformation and fucking the fucking President, at one point when they, they even started telling the press, they were back briefing the press, the head of the NSA was going and telling the press, fucking cock-sucker Rogers, was telling the press that we even know who in the GRU, the Russian Military Intelligence Service, who leaked it.

I mean all bullshit.

They were telling the studp- I worked at the New York Times for fucking years, and the trouble with the fucking New York Times is they have smart guys, but they’re totally beholden on sources. If the president or the head of the (???) to actually believe it. I was actually hired at the time to write, to go after the war in Vietnam War in 72 because they were just locked in. So that’s what the Times did. These guys run the fucking Times, and Trump’s not wrong. But I mean I wish he would calm down and had a better a better press secretary, I mean you don’t have to be so. Trump’s not wrong to think they all fucking lie about him.



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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


It's nice to hear it out loud.




Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

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Tuesday, October 10, 2017 1:10 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


And yet another hidden-camera expose of the tremendous bias of the "free (corporate) press" against Trump:

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O'Keefe Strikes Again, Catches NYT Editors On Hidden Camera: "Targeting Trump's Buinesses, His Dumb F**k Of A Son"

In the latest of a series of undercover operations targeting mainstream media bias, James O'Keefe has just dropped a new undercover video which takes direct aim at the New York Times' Audience Strategy Editor, Nick Dudich, who admits repeatedly to promoting content that intentionally seeks to, among other things, damage President Trump's businesses as a means towards forcing his resignation.

Here is a brief intro from Project Veritas:

While talking about being objective at the Times, Dudich replies candidly, "No I'm not, that's why I'm here."

Dudich considers himself an important player at the New York Times, telling the Project Veritas Journalist "my voice is on... my imprint is on every video we do."

Dudich goes on to explain what he might do to target President Trump:

"I'd target his businesses, his dumb fuck of a son, Donald Jr., and Eric...

Target that. Get people to boycott going to his hotels. Boycott... So a lot of the Trump brands, if you can ruin the Trump brand and you put pressure on his business and you start investigating his business and you start shutting it down, or they're hacking or other things. He cares about his business more than he cares about being President. He would resign. Or he'd lash out and do something incredibly illegal, which he would have to."

When the undercover journalist asks Dudich if he could make sure that the anti-Trump stories make it to the front, he replied, "Oh, we always do."


Is @nicholasdudich an isolated incident, or does the #NYTimes employ a culture of bias, in direct conflict with their ethical handbook? pic.twitter.com/oxAenS7aob — Project Veritas (@Project_Veritas) October 10, 2017

To our complete 'shock', O'Keefe also learned the Dudich worked for Hillary's 2016 presidential campaign and Obama's campaign in both 2008 and 2012...

In 2016, he was recruited to work for the Clinton campaign:

"So I have that background, so when Clinton in 2016... they needed a volunteer strategist to do video... well, they needed someone to help them do video, and how to make it heartfelt, for Clinton."

He even had to quit his job in journalism in order to work for the Clinton campaign: "I had to leave my job at Fusion ABC to then take a job at Upworthy where I wasn't deemed a journalist anymore to be able to work for the Clinton campaign."

Dudich explains how his activism motivated him to re-engage in the news business: "Like, after the Clinton campaign, I'm like, no I need to get back into news and keep doing shit because, like, this isn't going to change."


Exactly what kind of people does @nytimes allow to be a video gatekeeper?#AmericanPravda #NYTimes #NYT pic.twitter.com/6uGVsRFpc7 — James O'Keefe (@JamesOKeefeIII) October 10, 2017

Bizarrely, Dudich also claims to have joined the Antifa movement as an undercover agent for the FBI...a request which he originally said came from his godfather, James Comey, even though he subsequently retracted that statement.

Nicholas Dudich also told the undercover journalist bizarre stories about his personal connection to the FBI and his previous excitement as part of Anti-Fa.

"Yeah, I used to be an Anti-Fa punk once upon a time." he told the undercover journalist. "So, I had fun. They'd start s**t, I'm like, I get to hit you. I'm so excited."

He also claims that James Comey, former Director of the FBI, asked him to join Anti-Fa: "I joined that stuff for them [the FBI]. I was an asset... So it was intelligence gathering, seeing if they were [sic], what their agenda was, whether they're a threat or not."

"How'd you meet Comey?" asked the Project Veritas journalist. "He's my godfather," Dudich explained. "My dad and mom knew him and his wife for a really long time."

"Well the Comey hearing, I should have recused myself, but I'm not ever telling anybody there [at the Times] that I have a tie with that or else I don't know if they can keep me on."


With that intro, here is the complete video:



Why do we feel like it's Dudich whose resignation is imminent as opposed to Trump's?



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-10/okeefe-takes-aim-nyt-records-
editor-admitting-targeting-trumps-buinesses-his-dumb-fk



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Wednesday, October 11, 2017 4:59 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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NYT Editor Brags About Colluding With YouTube To Push Political Agenda

... Project Veritas is back with part 2 of their New York Times series which features Dudich bragging about his extensive contacts at YouTube that allow him to, among other things, bypass search algos and get his content promoted to the front page and/or buried, depending upon his personal preferences.

"As an editor, I'm a gatekeeper so I can choose what goes out and what doesn't go out. And let's say we wrote something about Facebook negatively... We actually just did a video about Facebook negatively, and I chose to put it in a spot that I knew wouldn't do well."
"Let's say something ends up on the YouTube front page, New York Times freaks out about it, but they don't know it's just because my friends curate the front page. So, it's like, a little bit of mystery you need in any type of job to make it look like what you do is harder than what it is."


#NYTimes video gatekeeper Nick Dudich says @YouTube friend curates trends for him…doesn't tell @nytimes to make his job "look harder." pic.twitter.com/kgezbQqxFo — Project Veritas (@Project_Veritas) October 11, 2017

Meanwhile, Earnest Pettie, the Brand and Diversity Curation Lead at YouTube - and Dudich's friend and former coworker at Fusion ABC - was also caught on video describing how he buries videos posted by "Alex Jones" while promoting videos from "legitimate news organizations," a designation which he is seemingly allowed to make autonomously.

"There are things that exist in the product that, like, are definitely optimized for news."

"Now, like last night if you searched for Hugh Hefner, there's the search results but then there's also... A carousel comes up with a page that's just news videos.

"There's this need, people are searching for a topic that is, that our systems know is a 'newsy' topic, so let's give them videos that we know to be newsy because we know we have these news partnerships."

"Realistically, that's what the... that's what the news carousel kind of does. So like, it's above the search results so, at the very least, we can say this shelf of videos from news partners is legitimate news because we know that these are legitimate news organizations. And if at that point, somebody decides they're going to scroll past that and go find Alex Jones, well, they were looking for him to begin with anyway."



An employee of @YouTube–which claims "for creators, by creators"–suppresses content to place "legitimate news" up top. Why do they decide? pic.twitter.com/uzYP7zHkSe — James O'Keefe (@JamesOKeefeIII) October 11, 2017

Of course, in Congress' endless effort to track down the couple hundred thousand dollars that 'Russian-linked' accounts 'may' have spent on Facebook and Twitter ads during the 2016 campaign, why do we suspect they will continue to ignore our own domestic news organzations' relentless attempt to push their own biased, liberal political agendas onto the American public rather than just reporting the news?

With that intro, here is NYT Part II in its entirety:




http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-11/okeefe-drops-part-2-nyt-edito
r-brags-about-colluding-youtube-facebook-push-political



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Saturday, December 2, 2017 8:16 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


And now ABC has to retract an anti-Trump story.

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ABC Makes "Epic Mistake", Retracts Bombshell Flynn Story

Having caused chaos in financial markets briefly, set the liberal media on fire with 'I told you so's, and sparked a renewed round of #ImpeachTrump demands, ABC News issued a 'clarification' to their bombshell Flynn report that not only negates the entire story but provides President Trump with another round of ammunition to fire against the 'fake news' media.

Critically, ABC News reports, correcting their earlier report, that Michael Flynn is prepared to testify that Donald Trump directed him to contact the Russians as president-elect, not as a candidate.

Here is the full 'clarification'

During a live Special Report, ABC News reported that a confidant of Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn said Flynn was prepared to testify that then-candidate Donald Trump instructed him to contact Russian officials during the campaign.

That source later clarified that during the campaign, Trump assigned Flynn and a small circle of other senior advisers to find ways to repair relations with Russia and other hot spots.

It was shortly after the election, that President-elect Trump directed Flynn to contact Russian officials on topics that included working jointly against ISIS.


So to clarify - just as President Trump had stated, there was no contact with Russians during his time as a candidate but in fact it was in transition as he attempted to mend broken bridges with another world super-power in his role as president-elect - this in no way a criminal act at all. In fact, reaching out to foreign governments during transitions is standard procedure.

CNN is embarrassed...

ABC News spokesperson tells me that “World News” will clarify that this should be president-elect Trump, not candidate Trump. https://t.co/Xm0BuvAstj — Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) December 1, 2017

Axios apologizes for its use of the story...

(We regret highlighting a story that had one source making an astonishing allegation.)

And maybe Brian Ross, so-called journalist and ABC News Chief Investigative Correspondent, who wrote the ABC article, will explain himself and his 'sources' for this nothingburger of a story.

One wonder what the consequences are, or should be, for such an obvious error.

The original tweet published by ABC News containing Ross' initial report had been retweeted more than 25,000 times and embedded in various news stories online before it was deleted.

But the clarification - issued at 7:53pmET - has just 2600 RTs...

CLARIFICATION of ABC News Special Report: Flynn prepared to testify that President-elect Donald Trump directed him to make contact with the Russians *during the transition* -- initially as a way to work together to fight ISIS in Syria, confidant now says. https://t.co/ewrkVZBTbc pic.twitter.com/GQAKwT1Eda — ABC News (@ABC) December 2, 2017

Is it any wonder trust in the mainstream media is at rock bottom?

How long before Dianne Feinstein retracts her angry statement aimed at President Trump "negotiating with Russia against US interests"?

We look forward to President Trump's tirade over this.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-01/abc-makes-epic-mistake-retrac
ts-bombshell-flynn-story



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Saturday, December 2, 2017 9:13 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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lol... ya don't say?

Probably should stop quoting those anonymous sources and running with those stories.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, December 2, 2017 9:16 AM

THGRRI


I am referencing this thread, http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62024, because SIG more times than not, sources her information that she posts here from zerohedge. She stupidly defends this as a reputable source. Something she does with other unreliable sources. As she continues to do so, I will reference this thread to remind all she posts from this and other corrupted sources. Sources designed to create havoc rather than inform.

Below are the names of those behind zero hedge. Don't miss what I've highlighted in red below. This folks is why comrade troll SIG loves to quote zero hedge.




In addition, Lokey said he faced constant pressure to frame stories in-line with a particular world-view, which he described as “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladmir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.”



All of this matches SIG's playbook here and Putin's globally; exactly.


The men behind zero hedge

Colin Lokey, a 32-year-old former Seeking Alpha director

Daniel Ivandjiiski, a 37-year-old Bulgarian-born former hedge fund employee who was barred for insider trading in 2008

Tim Backshall, a 45-year-old credit derivatives strategist
Despite its populist tone, Lokey told Bloomberg he recently left Zero Hedge because he didn’t see eye-to-eye with the others when it came to editorial vision.

“Zero Hedge ceased to serve that public service years ago,” Lokey said. “They care what generates page views. Clicks. Money.”

In addition, Lokey said he faced constant pressure to frame stories in-line with a particular world-view, which he described as “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladmir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.”

Lokey claims Zero Hedge’s focus on traffic and revenue is hypocritical, but Ivandjiiski sees things differently.

Finally, Zero Hedge addressed the accusations of systematic bias in its content.

“We are certainly ok with being the object of other’s conspiracy theories, in this case completely false ones since we have never been in contact with anyone in Russia, or the US, or any government for that matter,” Zero Hedge says.

The site claims it has never accepted a dime of funding outside of advertising revenue and that Lokey was never pressured about how to frame his articles or editorialized.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/zero-hedge-unmasked-theres-more-1427301
65.html

According to the Bloomberg article, three men have been churning out all of the content at Zero Hedge, using the joint pseudonym “Tyler Durden” from the Brad Pitt film “Fight Club.” The 1999 cult film, according to Rolling Stone, is “about being young, male and powerless against the pacifying drug of consumerism. It’s about solitude, despair and bottled-up rage.” That ethos is frequently on display at Zero Hedge.

The three “Tyler Durdens” outed by Bloomberg reporters are Colin Lokey, who has now left Zero Hedge in a fit of pique and is responsible for handing over the internal chat sessions from Zero Hedge on traffic-building strategies and other matters. Bloomberg says “the other two men are Daniel Ivandjiiski, 37, the Bulgarian-born former analyst long reputed to be behind the site, and Tim Backshall, 45, a well-known credit derivatives strategist.”

The article notes that “Ivandjiiski has a multimillion-dollar mansion in Mahwah, N.J., and Backshall lives in a plush San Francisco suburb,” suggesting these are “not exactly reflections” of the anti-capitalism reflected in the moniker “Tyler Durden.”






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Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:33 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Two Russian lawmakers dismiss Michael Flynn's guilty plea
By Clare Sebastian and Laura Smith-Spark, CNN
Updated 5:45 AM ET, Sat, December 2, 2017
www.cnn.com/2017/12/02/politics/russia-lawmakers-dismiss-flynn-plea-in
tl/index.html


Story highlights:
Russian senator (1kiki): Donald Trump is the real target of "attack"
Another senator (Signym) says US investigation into Flynn a "sack of smoke"
(Trust your Russians for impartial, truthful analysis)

Trump vs Talking Heads


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Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:37 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
I am referencing this thread, http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62024, because SIG more times than not, sources her information that she posts here from zerohedge. She stupidly defends this as a reputable source. Something she does with other unreliable sources. As she continues to do so, I will reference this thread to remind all she posts from this and other corrupted sources. Sources designed to create havoc rather than inform.



I don't read zerohedge. I view that site as pretty much an equal and opposite to vox.

Are you saying that what Sigs posted about the news outlets retracting the story isn't true then?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:37 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
I am referencing this thread, http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62024, because SIG more times than not, sources her information that she posts here from zerohedge. She stupidly defends this as a reputable source. Something she does with other unreliable sources. As she continues to do so, I will reference this thread to remind all she posts from this and other corrupted sources. Sources designed to create havoc rather than inform.



I don't read zerohedge. I view that site as pretty much an equal and opposite to vox.

Are you saying that what Sigs posted about the news outlets retracting the story isn't true then?




Figure it out for yourself. Or don't, no matter.


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Saturday, December 2, 2017 6:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

I don't read zerohedge. I view that site as pretty much an equal and opposite to vox. Are you saying that what Sigs posted about the news outlets retracting the story isn't true then? - SIX

Figure it out for yourself. Or don't, no matter.= THUGR

THUGR's saying that

1) He doesn't care about the truth, because
2) He's unable to overcome his past conditioning, which means
3) He's won't even figure how to follow embedded links to find the sources and
4) He depends on his information pre-digested and consistent with his beliefs

So, for the idiots among us who can't even click on an embedded link, here is the same story from more "trustworthy" sources ...

ABC News corrects bombshell Flynn report
http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/01/media/abc-news-flynn-correction/

ABC News draws fire for erroneous Trump-Flynn report
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/01/abc-news-flynn-plea-clarific
ation-conservatives-275981


ABC ‘Clarifies’ Its Story Claiming Trump Instructed Flynn to Contact the Russians During the Campaign
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/454295/abc-clarifies-its-story-cl
aiming-donald-trump-instructed-michael-flynn-contact





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Saturday, December 2, 2017 11:35 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


ABC News' Brian Ross suspended four weeks without pay for botched Flynn report
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brian-ross-abc-news-suspends-reporter-fou
r-weeks-without-pay-for-botched-flynn-report
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Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:31 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
ABC News' Brian Ross suspended four weeks without pay for botched Flynn report
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brian-ross-abc-news-suspends-reporter-fou
r-weeks-without-pay-for-botched-flynn-report
/



If only we could get the government to run the news - that would make it perfect!

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It's funny seeing sig post proof that the main stream media works hard to stay honest and get the facts straight. Yet she thinks her post shows something else. She thinks it shows they are dishonest. Jack see's things the same way. That's the disease G.


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Sunday, December 3, 2017 10:12 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


https://qz.com/1145462

Now an upcoming book by Trump’s former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and ex-top aide David Bossie, Let Trump Be Trump, reveals just how much fast food the president-to-be ate during his campaign.

The meals themselves were reportedly of heroic proportions. One McDonald’s chow-down involved “two Big Macs, two Fillet-O-Fish, and a chocolate malted.” McDonald’s was apparently just one of the “four major food groups” on “Trump Force One”; the remaining three were pizza, Kentucky Fried Chicken, and Diet Coke.

And as a historical reminder of what could happen if the next President after Trump is not from Trump's party:

Most damaging to President James Buchanan's name was his weak acquiescence before the secessionist tide — an unwillingness to challenge those states that declared their intention to withdraw from the Union after Lincoln's election. Sitting on his hands as the situation spiraled out of control, Buchanan believed that the Constitution gave him no power to act against would-be seceders.

To his dying day, he felt that history would treat him favorably for having performed his constitutional duty. He was wrong.
www.usnews.com/news/special-reports/the-worst-presidents/articles/2014
/12/17/worst-presidents-james-buchanan-1857-1861


Before he became President, Lincoln made it clear that Southerners could keep their slaves and retrieve runaway slaves from free states, but slave-holders still revolted. A similar 21st Century revolt on the flimsiest pretext could happen. From Lincoln's inauguration speech: "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so. Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them . . ."
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/lincoln1.asp

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Sunday, December 3, 2017 1:59 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Thanks to SECOND for this breathless reporting of Trump's fast-food habits.

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Sunday, December 3, 2017 2:59 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I hate to tell you this, but you poop, too. And, contrary to your inflated view of yourself, your shit DOES stink.




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:

The meals themselves were reportedly of heroic proportions. One McDonald’s chow-down involved “two Big Macs, two Fillet-O-Fish, and a chocolate malted.” McDonald’s was apparently just one of the “four major food groups” on “Trump Force One”; the remaining three were pizza, Kentucky Fried Chicken, and Diet Coke.



Garbage in, garbage out.

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I think you've upset kiki


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Sunday, December 3, 2017 4:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:

The meals themselves were reportedly of heroic proportions. One McDonald’s chow-down involved “two Big Macs, two Fillet-O-Fish, and a chocolate malted.” McDonald’s was apparently just one of the “four major food groups” on “Trump Force One”; the remaining three were pizza, Kentucky Fried Chicken, and Diet Coke.



Garbage in, garbage out.

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I think you've upset kiki


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Sunday, December 3, 2017 5:21 PM

THGRRI


Former Ukraine finance minister:

Russia's interference in the U.S. election was but the latest and most audacious episode in Moscow's ongoing effort to destroy liberal democracy and the Trans-Atlantic partnership, says a top Ukrainian leader. "The information attacks, the propaganda, the cyberattacks. We've lived through all the things they tested first in Ukraine," Natalie Jaresko, the country's former finance minister told David Axelrod on The Axe Files podcast, a joint production of CNN and the University of Chicago's Institute of Politics.

"It's shocking that they would take the risk of doing that in the United States. And now it appears -- I've seen reports -- Germany, France and elsewhere. "

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/30/politics/natalie-jaresko-axe-files/index
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And Trump is his best ally in this.


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Wednesday, December 6, 2017 5:26 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

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Wednesday, December 6, 2017 5:48 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I was joking before when I said the MSM gave Obama a free pass on all the bad policies that he passed, but we know what Trump shits everyday.

It's hard to do satire when the MSM does it better than I ever could.

The MSM is now officially The Onion.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, December 6, 2017 11:37 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


You're probably too young to remember Clinton, but the press did a bang-up job of hiding HIS horrible policies too. Just about everything economic/financial/media-wise that we've been suffering from had its roots under Clinton, from doing away with Glass-Steagall (which effectively gave the banking system AIDS) to promoting and signing NAFTA and supporting China's accession into the WTO, to promoting and signing the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, to promoting and signing the Commodity Futures Modernization Act (which brought us Enron immediately and has been like herpes in the financial system ever since) to "deregulating" the media ("Telecommunications Act") which led to the current ultra-consolidation. Also, BTW, "ending welfare as we know it" and promoting "managed healthcare plans".

He only did two things right: cut military spending (which helped being the budget into better balance) and raise the Federal minimum wage.

Yanno, I'm fairly certain that both Bill and Hillary are sociopaths and that Bill is a pervert of the highest order. OF the two, Bill is probably the natural sociopath because people STILL think of him as a great President!

But the things that flipped my wig about Bill had nothing to do with his personal foibles - as bad as they might have been - and everything to do with his policies. I voted for him once, but I'm glad to say that I was smarter the second time around.

So just a reminder: the media wasn't so great back then either.


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