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Lynch. Comey. Dirty Debbie. Hillary. The FBI-DNC-DOJ link. Ohr. Stzok. Page. Rosenstein. It's one giant deep state clusterfvck

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Monday, March 12, 2018 1:25 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Little guy, fair chances...so you are talking about before 1960. I didn't know you were old enough for that to be your era.

I keep mentioning that I'm old. I really am!




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Monday, March 12, 2018 2:06 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Clinton Charity Fraud Biggest Scandal in US History – Kevin Shipp

Former CIA Officer and whistleblower Kevin Shipp says the reason for all the crime and treason at the FBI and DOJ all boils down to one thing–the Clinton so-called “charity.” ...

The swamp is huge, and people are leaking out of it SO slowly, it will not be drained in a lifetime, let alone a presidential term.




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Saturday, March 17, 2018 12:57 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


so basically, because of the Deep State, the Clintons will be a long time dead before justice comes a-knocking on their door. Wait, so that would mean that it doesn't matter who does the crime, as long as the Deep State is satisfied.

Ok, now I get it. Dem or Repub, it doesn't matter. Only the Deep State matters.

There you go.....rational and civil. Your turn.


SGG


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Clinton Charity Fraud Biggest Scandal in US History – Kevin Shipp

Former CIA Officer and whistleblower Kevin Shipp says the reason for all the crime and treason at the FBI and DOJ all boils down to one thing–the Clinton so-called “charity.” ...

The swamp is huge, and people are leaking out of it SO slowly, it will not be drained in a lifetime, let alone a presidential term.




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Wednesday, May 16, 2018 7:28 AM

SIGNYM

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Two Colleagues Contradict Brennan's Denial of Reliance on Dossier

Former CIA Director John Brennan’s insistence that the salacious and unverified Steele dossier was not part of the official Intelligence Community Assessment on Russian interference in the 2016 election is being contradicted by two top former officials.

Recently retired National Security Agency Director Michael Rogers stated in a classified letter to Congress that the Clinton campaign-funded memos did factor into the ICA. And James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence under President Obama, conceded in a recent CNN interview that the assessment was based on “some of the substantive content of the dossier.” Without elaborating, he maintained that “we were able to corroborate” certain allegations.

These accounts are at odds with Brennan’s May 2017 testimony before the House Intelligence Committee that the Steele dossier was "not in any way used as the basis for the intelligence community's assessment" that Russia interfered in the election to help elect Donald Trump. Brennan has repeated this claim numerous times, including in February on “Meet the Press.”

In a March 5, 2018, letter to House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, Adm. Rogers informed the committee that a two-page summary of the dossier — described as “the Christopher Steele information” — was “added” as an “appendix to the ICA draft,” and that consideration of that appendix was “part of the overall ICA review/approval process.”

OMFG, Brennan is such a liar. The last big lie that he got caught in was the one where he said that the CIA wasn't snooping in on Congress (it was).

He lied about the use of drones.



Seriously, people, you and I know, even from popular culture, that intelligence-craft is the ability to lie. Why do we expect them to be truthful?

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Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:02 AM

SIGNYM

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Wow, so many names to add to the list!
Here is a summary, at least according to one Reddit poster ...

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I am passing this on from someone who's connecting some dots with input from sources he cannot reveal.

Here's what it looks like when all the pieces are sewn together

It smells like conspiracy and treason. Everyone needs to read this. Slowly, and patiently, because it’s very important......

From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation.

A Grand Jury had been impanelled.

Governments from around the world had donated to the “Charity”.

Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those “Donations” to the Clinton Foundation were declared. Now you would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.

Look who took over this investigation in 2005: None other than James Comey; Coincidence? Guess who was transferred into the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS? None other than, Lois “Be on The Look Out” (BOLO) Lerner. Isn’t that interesting?

But this is all just a series of strange coincidences, right?

Guess who ran the Tax Division inside the Department of Injustice from 2001 to 2005?

No other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein.

Guess who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame?

Another coincidence (just an anomaly in statistics and chances), but it was Robert Mueller.

What do all four casting characters have in common?

They all were briefed and/or were front-line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.

Another coincidence, right?

Fast forward to 2009....

James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go and cash-in at Lockheed Martin.

Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, official government business, on her own personal email server.

The Uranium One “issue” comes to the attention of the Hillary.

Like all good public servants do, supposedly looking out for America’s best interest, she decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no other than, the Russians.

Now you would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, America got absolutely nothing out of it.

However, prior to the sales approval, no other than Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech; then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.

Ok, no big deal right? Well, not so fast, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme.

Robert Mueller was the FBI Director during this time frame? Yep, He even delivered a Uranium Sample to Moscow in 2009.

Who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland?

None other than, Rod Rosenstein. And what happened to the informant?

The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it.

How does 20% of the most strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise?

Very soon after; the sale was approved!~$145 million dollars in “donations” made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.

Guess who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division? None other than, - Lois Lerner.

Ok, that’s all just another series of coincidences, nothing to see here, right?

Let’s fast forward to 2015.

Due to a series of tragic events in Benghazi and after the 9 “investigations” the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi discovers that the Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server. He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her “Public Service” as Secretary of State which was required by law. He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email.

Sparing you the State Departments cover up, the nostrums they floated, the delay tactics that were employed and the outright lies that were spewed forth from the necks of the Kerry State Department, we shall leave it with this…… they did everything humanly possible to cover for Hillary. .

Now this is amazing, guess who became FBI Director in 2013? None other than James Comey; who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer (Lockheed Martin) with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer? Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State, huh?

Now he is the FBI Director in charge of the “Clinton Email Investigation” after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner “Matter” at the Internal Revenue Service and he exonerates her. Nope.... couldn’t find any crimes there.

In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy.They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury!

Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, like the true “Gangsta” Comey is, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates the Hillary from any wrongdoing.

Do you see the pattern?

It goes on and on, Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General,Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues.

FISA Abuse, political espionage..... pick a crime, any crime, chances are...... this group and a few others did it:

All the same players.

All compromised and conflicted.

All working fervently to NOT go to jail themselves

All connected in one way or another to the Clinton's.

They are like battery acid; they corrode and corrupt everything they touch.How many lives have these two destroyed?

As of this writing, the Clinton Foundation, in its 20+ years of operation of being the largest International Charity Fraud in the history of mankind, has never been audited by the Internal Revenue Service.

Let us not forget that Comey's brother works for DLA Piper, the law firm that does the Clinton Foundation's taxes.

The person that is the common denominator to all the crimes above and still doing her evil escape legal maneuvers at the top of the 3 Letter USA Agencies?

Yep, that would be Hillary R. Clinton.

Now who is LISA BARSOOMIAN? Let’s learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background.

Lisa H. Barsoomian, an Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protégé of James Comey and Robert Mueller.

Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998.

Lawrence also represented:

Robert Mueller three times;
James Comey five times;
Barack Obama 45 times;
Kathleen Sebelius 56 times;
Bill Clinton 40 times; and
Hillary Clinton 17 times.

Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times.

You may be saying to yourself, OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman?

Apparently, someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?). Someone out there cares so much that even the internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian.

Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. Although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH.gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health. This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities.

It’s a cover, so big deal right? What does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter?

It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California, the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. and last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and-the Russians.

Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?

BECAUSE….

She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE!

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Bruce Ohr is testifying in closed-door session today (8/29)
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Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:14 PM

THG


Whelp folks, it can't be anymore obvious, sig, kiki, Jack and JSF are stuck in a time warp.

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Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:22 PM

SIGNYM

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Originally posted by THG:Whelp [sic] folks, it can't be anymore obvious, sig, kiki, Jack and JSF are stuck in a time warp.
I'll remind you of that any time you refer to anything TRUMP did before 2016.




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Thursday, August 30, 2018 12:16 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Whelp folks, it can't be anymore obvious, sig, kiki, Jack and JSF are stuck in a time warp.

T


Yup.

Sounds like Q-Anon conspiracy crap.

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Friday, August 31, 2018 1:26 AM

SIGNYM

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FBI Agent: FBI Leaked Stories To The Media And Used Them To Obtain FISA Warrants
Mac Slavo
August 28th, 2018
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/fbi-agent-fbi-leaked-stories-to-
the-media-and-used-them-to-obtain-fisa-warrants_08282018


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Monday, September 10, 2018 9:01 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Trump expected to declassify Carter Page and Bruce Ohr documents

President Trump is expected to declassify, as early as this week, documents covering the U.S. government's surveillance of Trump campaign adviser Carter Page and the investigative activities of senior Justice Department lawyer Bruce Ohr, according to allies of the president.

The big picture: Republicans on the House Intelligence and Judiciary committees believe the declassification will permanently taint the Trump-Russia investigation by showing the investigation was illegitimate to begin with. Trump has been hammering the same theme for months.

They allege that Bruce Ohr played an improper intermediary role between the Justice Department, British spy Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS — the opposition research firm that produced the Trump-Russia dossier, funded by Democrats. (Ohr's wife, Nellie, worked for Fusion GPS on Russia-related matters during the presidential election — a fact that Ohr did not disclose on federal forms.)
And they further allege that the Obama administration improperly spied on Carter Page — all to take down Trump.

House Freedom Caucus chairman Mark Meadows, who is close to Trump, told Axios earlier today: "After two years of investigations and accusations from both sides of the aisle about what documents indicate, it is past time for documents to be declassified and let the American people decide for themselves if DoJ and FBI acted properly."

The bottom line: President Trump has been hyping, and congressional Republicans have been calling for, the declassification of these documents. It's now put up or shut up time. We should find out very soon whether these documents are as explosive as advertised.


https://www.axios.com/trump-declassify-carter-page-bruce-ohr-documents
-307ff599-df29-49db-ae01-a8b027908b12.html


Axios via ZH


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Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:26 AM

REAVERFAN


More tinfoil from Russian troll sites. What does Q say?


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Wednesday, September 12, 2018 3:39 PM

SIGNYM

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HEY TROLL REAVERFAN: EVERYBODY LIES! And if you think the M$M doesn't, then you've got some serious growing-up to do!

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Wednesday, September 12, 2018 3:42 PM

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"Leaking Like Mad"

A December 15, 2016 email appears to discuss a "political" leaking operation, in which others were "leaking like mad" amid the Trump-Russia probe.

“Oh, remind me to tell you tomorrow about the times doing a story about the rnc hacks,” Page texted Strzok.

“And more than they already did? I told you Quinn told me they pulling out all the stops on some story…” Strzok replied.

A source told Fox News “Quinn” could be referring to Richard Quinn, who served as the chief of the Media and Investigative Publicity Section in the Office of Public Affairs. Quinn could not be reached for comment.

Strzok again replied: “Think our sisters have begun leaking like mad. Scorned and worried, and political, they’re kicking into overdrive.”


In one passage, Strzok apparently misreads a reference to "rnc" as "mc," and then, realizing his error, blames "old man eyes."

It is unclear at this point to whom Strzok was referring when he used the term “sisters.” -Fox News



https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-12/leaking-mad-fbi-doj-msm-coll
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Friday, September 14, 2018 9:20 PM

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"Sitting with Bill watching CNN. A TON more out," Strzok texted to Page on Jan. 10, 2017, following CNN's report. "Hey let me know when you can talk. We’re discussing whether, now that this is out, we use it as a pretext to go interview some people," Strzok continued.


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Tuesday, October 9, 2018 12:38 PM

SIGNYM

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It looks like BAKER (FBI's former top lawyer) has flipped, and what he's saying is ...

Quote:

Ex-FBI Top Lawyer: Rosenstein Wasn't Joking About Recording, Removing Trump

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein wasn't joking when he told former FBI officials Andrew McCabe and Lisa Page that he wanted to secretly record President Trump and use the tapes to remove him from office, according to the FBI's former top lawyer.

Fox News reports that James Baker, who served as the FBI's General Counsel before he was reassigned and then quit, told congressional investigators during a closed-door deposition last week that Page and McCabe relayed the same account of Rosenstein's remarks - and that he was absolutely serious at the time.

"As far as Baker was concerned, this was a real plan being discussed," reports The Hill's John Solomon, citing a confidential source.

"It was no laughing matter for the FBI," the source added.

Solomon points out that Rosenstein's comments happened right around the time former FBI Director James Comey was fired.

McCabe, Baker's boss, was fired after the DOJ discovered that he had leaked self-serving information to the press and then lied to investigators about it. Baker, meanwhile, was central to the surveillance apparatus within the FBI during the counterintelligence operation on then-candidate Trump.

As the former FBI general counsel, Baker was a senior figure with a pivotal position who had the ear of the FBI director.

Baker also is at the heart of surveillance abuse accusations, many from congressional Republicans. His deposition lays the groundwork for a planned closed-door House GOP interview with Rosenstein later this week.

Baker, formerly the FBI's top lawyer, helped secure the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant on former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, as well as three subsequent renewals. -Fox News


Meanwhile, the Times also notes that McCabe's own memos attest to Rosenstein's intentions to record Trump - which led to Rosenstein reportedly tendering a verbal resignation to White House chief of staff John Kelly.

Rosenstein is set to be interviewed in private on Thursday by the House Judiciary Committee.

On September 21 the New York Times reported on Rosenstein's alleged comments. The MSM - citing anonymous officials - immediately spread the narrative that he was simply joking. Rosenstein's office has tried to downplay the comments as a joke, insisting that he never gave an order to record Trump, and that he doesn't believe Trump should be removed from office.

Let's see if Rosenstein tells Congressional investigators the same thing on Thursday, under oath, under penalty of felony.

Baker’s account to lawmakers this month clearly complicates an already complicated picture for Rosenstein before Congress, assuming he shows up for Thursday’s interview.

But even more so, Baker’s story lays bare an extraordinary conversation in which at least some senior FBI officials thought it within their purview to try to capture the president on tape and then go to the president’s own Cabinet secretaries, hoping to persuade the senior leaders of the administration to remove the president from power.

Even more extraordinary is the timing of such discussions: They occurred, according to Baker’s account, in the window around FBI Director James Comey’s firing. Could it be that the leaders of a wounded, stunned FBI were seeking retribution for their boss’ firing with a secret recording operation? -The Hill


Solomon points out that "This wasn’t a president who was incapacitated at the time. He was fully exercising his powers — but in a way the FBI leadership did not like."

Keep in mind, this is the same FBI that, a few months earlier during the 2016 election, had its top counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok talking to Page — his lover and the top lawyer to McCabe — about using their official powers to “stop” Trump in the election and having an “insurance policy” against the GOP nominee. That insurance policy increasingly looks like an unverified dossier created by British intelligence operative Christopher Steele — a Trump hater himself — that was bought and paid for by the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton’s campaign through their mutual law firm. -The Hill

Let's also recall that this is the same FBI which employed Stephan Halper - a Cambridge professor and longtime US spook - to infiltrate and perform espionage on the Trump campaign.

"You walk away from the Baker interview with little doubt that the FBI leadership in that 2016-17 time-frame saw itself as far more than a neutral investigative agency but actually as a force to stop Trump’s election before it happened and then maybe reversing it after the election was over," said Solomon's source "directly familiar with the congressional investigation."

Baker's other admissions

Solomon also reports that Baker told congressional investigators that a DNC attorney gave him information in the Russia investigation, and that he received a version of the infamous Steele Dossier from liberal journalist David Corn of Mother Jones magazine - which he then forwarded to Strzok's team. Corn says this happened in November 2016, just after the election.

That transaction is significant for two reasons. First, at the time Steele had just been fired from the FBI probe for leaking to the media and he wasn’t supposed to be further assisting the probe. So Corn essentially acted as a back door to allow information to continue to flow.

Secondly, the FBI was using the news media as an investigative source outside the normal chain of evidence. -The Hill


Rosenstein and Trump met for approximately 30 minutes aboard Air Force One. Prior to the flight, Trump told reporters that he has no plans to fire Rosenstein.

"I actually have a good relationship — other than there’s been no collusion folks, no collusion," Trump said.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-09/ex-fbi-top-lawyer-rosenstein
-wasnt-joking-about-recording-removing-trump



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Tuesday, October 9, 2018 1:24 PM

REAVERFAN


Got a legit source?

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Tuesday, October 9, 2018 5:31 PM

SIGNYM

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As a news aggregator, ZH often links many sources for their articles. They linked the following for that article

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/410447-former-fbi-la
wyer-plot-to-record-remove-trump-not-a-joke


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/us/politics/rod-rosenstein-wear-wir
e-25th-amendment.html


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/rosenstein-joked-about-
secretly-recording-trump-say-sources-n911981


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/09/21/oh-so-deputy-ag-ros
enstein-was-joking-about-wearing-a-wire-to-ensnare-trump-n2521362


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-agent-peter
-strzok-fired-over-anti-trump-texts/2018/08/13/be98f84c-8e8b-11e8-b769-e3fff17f0689_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bc18f3b13b60


https://archive.org/stream/TheSteelDossierTrumpIntelligenceAllegations
/The%20Steele%20Dossier%20-%20Trump-Intelligence-Allegations_djvu.txt


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/24/us/politics/clinton-dnc-russia-doss
ier.html


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/4/ex-spy-christopher-ste
ele-trusted-fbi-despite-misc
/

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/405242-the-mueller-probes-trou
bling-reliance-on-journalists-as-sources


I may have missed one or two, but feel free to pursue these other sources to your heart's content.

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Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:49 PM

SIGNYM

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This time, REAVER, you can look up the links yourself. (FYI the first link is to CNN)

Quote:

Rosenstein Bails On Congressional Testimony

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein will not appear in front of the House Judiciary Committee on Thursday to discuss reports that he wanted to secretly record President Trump and then use the recordings to remove him from office under the 25th Amendment, reports the Daily Caller's Chuck Ross, citing an anonymous House Judiciary Committee aide, and later confirmed by CNN.

Rosenstein said he was joking when he made the comments to former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and FBI attorney Lisa Page, however that claim has been refuted by the FBI's former top attorney.

"We have many questions for Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein and expect answers to those questions. There is not at this time a confirmed date for a potential meeting," the aide told the Caller.

"Don’t think he is coming," added one Republican lawmaker on Wednesday.

The same lawmaker told TheDCNF on Tuesday that Rosenstein was likely to testify before the House Judiciary and House Oversight & Government Reform Committees to answer questions about claims he discussed wearing a wire during his interactions with Trump.

Members of the conservative House Freedom Caucus had called on Rosenstein to testify about his remarks, which were first reported by The New York Times on Sept. 21.

The conservative lawmakers, including North Carolina Rep. Mark Meadows and Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, have been staunch critics of Rosenstein because of his failure to respond to requests for documents related to the FBI’s handling of the Trump-Russia probe. -Daily Caller


On Tuesday we reported that the FBI's former top attorney, James Baker, told Congressional investigators last week that Rosenstein wasn't joking about taping Trump.

"As far as Baker was concerned, this was a real plan being discussed," reports The Hill's John Solomon, citing a confidential source.

"It was no laughing matter for the FBI," the source added.

Solomon points out that Rosenstein's comments happened right around the time former FBI Director James Comey was fired.

McCabe, Baker's boss, was fired after the DOJ discovered that he had leaked self-serving information to the press and then lied to investigators about it. Baker, meanwhile, was central to the surveillance apparatus within the FBI during the counterintelligence operation on then-candidate Trump.

As the former FBI general counsel, Baker was a senior figure with a pivotal position who had the ear of the FBI director.

Baker also is at the heart of surveillance abuse accusations, many from congressional Republicans. His deposition lays the groundwork for a planned closed-door House GOP interview with Rosenstein later this week.

Baker, formerly the FBI's top lawyer, helped secure the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant on former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, as well as three subsequent renewals. -Fox News


Meanwhile, the New York Times noted that McCabe's own memos attest to Rosenstein's intentions to record Trump - which led to Rosenstein reportedly tendering a verbal resignation to White House chief of staff John Kelly.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-10/rosenstein-expected-bail-con
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Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:15 AM

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Here is one opinion, by Tom Luongo

Quote:

In case you haven’t been paying attention, the Republicans are going to remain in control of both the House and the Senate in a couple of weeks. Since their flawless victory over the Democrats in the fight to confirm Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, the Republican base is more energized now than at any point since November 2016.

They say pictures are worth a thousand words… so, here’s one.

The Redcoats are Coming, The Redcoats are Coming!

Source: RealClearPolitics.com

And if you don’t think the person that is most worried about this picture is Hillary Clinton, then you haven’t been paying attention.

But, to get to Hillary, I’ll have to connect a few dots.

It is pretty obvious that Trump has begun winning over important parts of the GOP leadership, most notably Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky), who shared a stage with Trump in Kentucky recently.

While on the other hand, those most in opposition to Trump like Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (D-Wisconsin) and Jeff Flake (D-McCainville) are retiring because they know they can’t win.

Trump and McConnell’s win, as I said previously, “gave spine to the spineless.” Like Trump or hate him, for the most part, the guy is a change agent.

So, McConnell rammed another 15 judges down the Democrats’ throats to allow them time to do a little chair rearrangement on the deck of their party’s Titanic before November 6th.

The early signs have come from the foreign policy front, namely Trump’s cabinet.

The great Justin Raimondo at Antiwar.com feels, “the trend is moving in our direction – toward a new foreign policy for America, one that functions to protect the people of this country rather than police the world. Go not abroad in search of monsters to destroy.”

The reason I can give Raimondo’s optimism an audience stems from Gareth Porter’s recent article about Trump’s cabinet sabotaging him on foreign policy.

The excerpts from Bob Woodward’s book “Fear: Trump in the White House” that Porter pulls together along with other sources paints a very probably scenario of what is going on. Trump is fighting daily with his cabinet.

I’m sure Woodward’s goal was to show Trump as weak and not in control, because that’s the narrative du jour in the hopes of creating a 25th Amendment challenge to him post mid-terms.

But, since the Democrats are going to lose the mid-terms, this book now can serve as research into the shift in policy coming from Trump starting in mid-November.

And Trump is doing just a little bit more than signaling what’s coming.

I’ve settled on the belief that he fired Nikki Haley. She was, next to Certified Crazy Person John Bolton, the biggest neoconservative and AIPAC boot-licker in the administration. I expect Bolton will be gone soon if sanctions on Iran don’t work.

I bet she got wind of his intentions and then quit before the elections out of spite because … AIPAC.

As I said the day it happened, the only way our presence at the U.N. could be worse is if Dick Cheney is made U.N. Ambassador. So, buh-bye Nimrata.

That was interesting. But, now Trump’s undercutting Secretary of Defense James Mattis publicly. He hasn’t done this before.

When the MSM was trying to drive a wedge between Trump and Mattis I didn’t believe it.

When Trump is doing it, I’m listening. That’s a real change. Calling Mattis “a sort of a Democrat” is pure signaling to his base that Mattis has been a problem in the Middle East.

Has Trump has finally made the point clear to his generals that staying in Syria and Afghanistan forever is not in the U.S.’s best interests? Firing Mattis or allowing him to resign gracefully after the mid-terms would be a big move in that direction, if Woodword’s reporting is to be believed.

Woodward paints Mattis as the biggest obstacle to that end, arguing for the standard neoconservative line of defending America by invading the world.

Trump wants us out of Syria and Afghanistan. His cabinet doesn’t. So, we’re seeing him beginning to change the cabinet. Again, this happens as fallout from the Kavanaugh win since that fight changed the game at the grassroots level making it easier for him to fire the paper-hangers and promote the fire-breathers.

Then we have Israel and Syria opening up the Quinetra crossing to and from the Golan Heights for the first time in seven years, even though the war or words between the two countries continues to be belligerent.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov met with Henry Kissinger on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly. Try to find anything out about this in a standard search engine result. Because “Lavrov Kissinger Meeting” needed the word “TASS” added to it to get this article stub from Russian State News Service TASS.

And that is literally all you will get about this meeting outside of my commenting on it.

Because the Panopticon is real folks.

And that brings me, finally, to Trump’s revoking Hillary Clinton’s security clearance along with five others including her close aide Cheryl Mills.

Hillary and her staff have been using their clearance, like former CIA Director John Brennan to attack Trump in the press.

But, it is, lastly, the news that Ecuador reinstated Wikileaks’ publisher Julian Assange’s Internet and communications is the thing that set off my Spidey-Sense and was the catalyst for this post.

Assange has been held under an effective gag order, like Paul Manafort, for months now to keep them both from telling their story to the world. For more than a year Trump has fought an uphill battle against a deluge of distractions, most of which are untrue and some simply intelligence agency provocations designed to push him into untenable positions.

But, the noose is tightening around the conspiracy to oust Trump from power as it is outed bit by bit. With each small revelation, the picture is in focus. All that was missing was a fundamental change in the political atmosphere.

Because, make no mistake, Assange knows where all the metaphoric and literal bodies are buried.

The pressure on Ecuador’s new President to keep Assange silent must have lifted otherwise he’d still be in effective solitary confinement. And why would that pressure lift all of a sudden?

Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS ‘took the Fifth’ in Congressional testimony. Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein ignored the summons from Congress.

Everyone knows Julian Assange can put the finger on Hillary for what happened in 2016 (and so many other things).

So, putting the last piece to this puzzle together, it should be getting clearer here that some very important people are about to be indicted and/or arrested.

Containment around Hillary’s crimes has been breached and all that’s left now is for the people close to her to start turning on each other. The mid-terms were their last, best hope for a stay of execution.

But, Kanye West personally ended that hope just days after Kavanaugh was confirmed.

As the newly-empowered GOP bulldogs like Devin Nunes and John Ratcliffe take things to the next level in their investigations expect these trickles to become a torrent in the wake of the Red Tide coming on November 6th.



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Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:53 AM

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Clusterfuck, oh my!

Meanwhile, back at the ranch:




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Tuesday, October 16, 2018 7:30 AM

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The Russian trolls seem agitated. I guess there's going to be another revelation soon.

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Wednesday, October 17, 2018 12:18 AM

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Quote:

"Getting Some Disclosure": Carter Page Sues DNC And Clinton Law Firm Over Sham Dossier Used To Spy On Him

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-16/getting-some-disclosure-cart
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Wednesday, October 17, 2018 5:03 AM

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Really!? This ought to be good!


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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

"Getting Some Disclosure": Carter Page Sues DNC And Clinton Law Firm Over Sham Dossier Used To Spy On Him

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-16/getting-some-disclosure-cart
er-page-sues-dnc-and-clinton-law-firm-over-sham-dossier




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Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:35 AM

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Tom Luongo, again. BTW, Luongo is a libertarian, not a Republican. I don't agree with everything he says, but in this case he DOES bring up the fact that Julian Assange has just had his internet access restored.



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Wednesday, November 14, 2018 10:52 PM

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Apparently top-level CIA and FBI officials have conducted "sting" operations on political enemies before ...

Quote:

CIA Whistleblower Says Brennan, Mueller, Strzok Targeted Him For Retribution With Undercover Sting-Op

A 15-year CIA veteran says he was systematically targeted for revenge by John Brennan and Robert Mueller after he exposed part of the CIA's waterboarding program, then later revealed the identities of two agency officers, according to the Daily Caller's Chuck Ross. ...

An internal "crimes report" was submitted following Kiriakou's comments, which the George W. Bush Justice Deparment decided not to pursue. When President Obama took office, however, that changed.

"What we found in discovery was a memo from John Brennan, then the number 2 official on Obama's National Security Council - to the Justice Department saying ‘charge him with espionage," according to Kiriakou. The Justice Department responded, saying that Kiriakou had no committed espionage - to which Brennan replied "Charge him with espionage anyway and make him defend himself."



MORE AT https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-14/cia-whistleblower-says-brenn
an-mueller-strzok-targeted-him-retribution-undercover


https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/14/kiriakou-cia-mueller-brennan-strzok/

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/06/us/former-cia-officer-is-the-first-
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Saturday, December 15, 2018 1:35 PM

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I GUESS THE FBI LEARNED A LESSON FROM HILLARY?

Quote:

FBI-Lovers’ Phones Wiped After Stint on Mueller Probe
By Ivan Pentchoukov

A report by the Justice Department watchdog issued on Dec. 13, shows that someone wiped the data on the smartphones assigned to notorious FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page during their work for the Russia probe by Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

After the appointment of the special counsel in May 2017, Strzok and Page—who had an extramarital affair—joined Mueller’s probe. Both worked on the investigation briefly, with Page leaving on May 28, 2017, and Strzok being removed in late July.

Strzok and Page entered the national spotlight in January 2018 after their text messages became public, revealing the pair detested President Donald Trump and favored Hillary Clinton while working on high-profile investigations in 2016 and 2017 involving both Trump and Clinton.

Text messages sent between the pair are crucial to the perception of the Mueller probe and ongoing court cases. Strzok was one of the FBI agents who interviewed then-National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. Flynn is now facing sentencing in relation to false statements he made during the interview.

The Office of the Inspector General (OIG) attempted to recover the special counsel iPhones issued to Page and Strzok as part of an investigation into actions taken by the Department of Justice (DOJ) and FBI during the 2016 election. But the OIG was unable to recover any data because both phones were reset to factory settings before investigators recovered them, according to the watchdog’s report (pdf).

The circumstances and timing surrounding the deletion of data on Page’s phone are particularly questionable. The phone was reset to factory settings days after Mueller learned of the biased texts between Strzok and Page. The device then went missing for 14 months before another DOJ unit located it and turned it over to the OIG.

Days after Page’s phone was wiped, Strzok’s phone was reviewed by a special counsel records officer who can’t remember if the device contained any text messages. Afterward, at an unknown date, the phone was reset to factory settings, assigned to another agent, and turned up six months after Strzok was removed from Mueller’s probe.

Page’s phone was missing for more than a year after she left the special counsel role. Mueller’s office called Page after she left the probe because she did not turn in her laptop and phone. Page said she had left the devices on a bookshelf. After the call, special counsel staff found Page’s laptop but not her phone.

A separate DOJ unit located Page’s phone 14 months after she left the probe and turned it over to the OIG. Once the phone was finally examined in September this year, the OIG determined that someone had wiped all of the data by resetting the device to factory settings two weeks after she left Mueller’s team. There is no record of who handled the phone and who returned it to factory settings.

Page’s phone was wiped four days after DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz notified Mueller of the problematic texts between Strzok and Page on July 27, 2017. Mueller removed Strzok from the Russia probe sometime before the end of the month. A records officer at the special counsel’s office examined Strzok’s phone on Sept. 6, 2017. The officer does not remember if there were any text messages on the phone, according to the report. The officer did remember making an identical entry for another phone the same day that had no text messages.

The OIG examined six phones belonging to Page and Strzok recovering thousands of messages over the course of several rounds of digital forensics. The messages became some of the most damning evidence of bias among officials conducting the investigation into Clinton’s use of an unauthorized private emails server and the probe of alleged collusion between Trump-campaign associates and Russia.

In addition to revealing the intense bias, the text messages showed that Strzok and Page spoke about stopping Trump from becoming president, discussed an insurance policy in case Trump won the presidency, and mused about impeachment after Trump won–all while being part of an investigation into the Trump campaign.

MORE AT https://www.theepochtimes.com/fbi-lovers-phones-wiped-after-stint-on-m
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Saturday, December 15, 2018 1:42 PM

SIGNYM

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BUT, WE ALREADY SURMISED THIS ...
Quote:

Financial Bounty Hunters Testify: Clinton Foundation Operated As Foreign Agent

The Clinton Foundation operated as a foreign agent ‘early in its life’ and ‘throughout it’s existence’ and did not operate as a 501c3 charitable foundation as required by its and is not entitled to its status as a nonprofit, alleged two highly qualified forensic investigators, accompanied by three other investigators, said in explosive testimony Thursday to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

John Moynihan and Lawerence W. Doyle, both graduates of the Catholic Jesuit College of the Holy Cross and former expert forensic government investigators, gave their shocking testimony before congress based on a nearly two-year investigation into the foundation’s work both nationally and internationally. They were assisted by three other highly trained experts in taxation law and financial forensic investigations. The forensic investigators stressed that they obtained all the documentation on the foundation legally and through Freedom of Information Request Acts from the IRS and other agencies.

Former Utah U.S. Attorney General John Huber, who resigned when he was appointed by former Department of Justice Attorney General Jeff Sessions to investigate the Clinton Foundation and the issues surrounding the approval to sell 20 percent of U.S. Uranium assets to Russia, declined to attend the hearing. Chairman Mark Meadows, R-NC, who oversaw the hearing stated that it was disappointing that Huber declined, leaving Congress in the dark regarding the DOJ’s investigation.

Investigations into the Clinton Foundation have always been plagued by politics but Moynihan wanted to make clear in his opening statement that this investigation was one of many his firm has conducted on nonprofits and had nothing to do with politics.

Doyle and Moynihan have amassed 6,000 documents in their nearly two-year investigation through their private firm MDA Analytics LLC. The documents were turned over more than a year and a half ago to the IRS, according to John Solomon, who first published the report last week in The Hill.

“The investigation clearly demonstrates that the foundation was not a charitable organization per se, but in point of fact was a closely held family partnership,” said Doyle, who formerly worked on Wall Street and has been involved with finance for the last ten years conducting investigations. “As such, it was governed in a fashion in which it sought in large measure to advance the personal interests of its principles as detailed within the financial analysis of this submission and further confirmed within the supporting documentation and evidence section.”

At the onset of the hearing, Moynihan wanted to make perfectly clear that the intention to look into the Clinton Foundation was not political but based on their work with the firm.

“At this point, I’d like to answer two questions, who are we? We are apolitical,” Moynihan told the committee. “We have no party affiliation to this whatsoever, No one has financed us… we are forensic investigators that approached this effort in a nonpartisan profession, objective, and independent way…we follow facts, that’s all.”

“We have never been partisan,” he added, speaking on behalf of all five members of his group testifying to Congress. “We come from law enforcement and wall street where each of us has dedicated our entire lives and praised the rule of law doing the right thing pursuing facts. we follow facts. that’s all.”

“None of this is our opinion,” he went on state: “I emphasize none of this is our opinion. These are not our facts. They are not your facts. They are the facts of the Clinton Foundation.”

He disclosed the reason his firm decided to take on the Clinton Foundation and the fact that they paid for the investigation out of their “own pockets.”

“Are you doing this for money,” said Moynihan to the committee. “Yes, this is how we make a living.”

Moynihan and Doyle swapped back and forth between there testimony and opening statement, making it clear they were working as a team. But the most shocking statements came from Moynihan’s statement as he read the laundry list of violations by the Clinton Foundation.

Moynihan stated “Foreign agent,” as he began to read from a long list of violations discovered during the course of their investigation.

MORE AT https://saraacarter.com/financial-bounty-hunters-testify-clinton-found
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Sunday, December 16, 2018 1:11 PM

SIGNYM

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This is a follow-up to the story of Stzrok's and Page's phones being wiped. I guess getting rid of evidence is SOP for the deep state...


Quote:

Mueller Destroyed Messages From Peter Strzok's iPhone; OIG Recovers 19,000 New "FBI Lovebird" Texts

The Justice Department's internal watchdog revealed on Thursday that special counsel Robert Mueller's office scrubbed all of the data from FBI agent Peter Strzok's iPhone, while his FBI mistress Lisa Page's phone had been scrubbed by a different department, according to a comprehensive report by the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) released on Thursday.

After Strzok was kicked off the special counsel investigation following the discovery of anti-Trump text messages between he and Page, his Mueller's Records Officer scrubbed Strzok's iPhone after determining "it contained no substantive text messages," reports the Conservative Review's Jordan Schachtel.

Mueller's team was unable to locate Page's iPhone, however the DOJ's Justice Management Division (JMD) similarly scrubbed her phone - resetting it to factory settings.

Meanwhile, the OIG recovered approximately newly found 19,000 Strzok-Page texts from their Galaxy S5 phones. The messages span a "gap" in text messages between December 15, 2016 and May 17, 2017.

OIG digital forensic examiners used forensic tools to recover thousands of text messages from these devices, including many outside the period of collection tool failure (December 15, 20 I 6 to May 17, 2017) and many that Strzok and Page had with persons other than each other. Approximately 9,311 text messages that were sent or received during the period of collection tool failure were recovered from Strzok's S5 phone, of which approximately 8,358 were sent to or received from Page. Approximately 10,760 text messages that were sent or received during the period of collection tool failure were recovered from Page's S5 phone, of which approximately 9,717 were sent to or received from Strzok. Thus, many of the text messages recovered from Strzok's S5 were also recovered from Page's S5. However, some of the Strzok-Page text messages were only recovered from Strzok's phone while others were only recovered from Page's phone. -OIG Report

Thousands of text messages between Strzok and Page were recovered by the OIG, many indicating that both agents in charge of investigating Donald Trump absolutely hate him.

In August 2016, Strzok and Page discussed an "insurance policy" in the event that Trump won the election which many believe to be in reference to operation Crossfire Hurricane - the DOJ's counterintelligence investigation into Trump and his campaign.

"I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy's office - that there's no way he [Trump] gets elected - but I'm afraid we can't take that risk." wrote Strzok, adding "It's like a life insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you're 40."

In the home stretch of the 2016 US election, Strzok is fuming at Trump - texting Page: "I am riled up. Trump is a f*cking idiot, is unable to provide a coherent answer." He then texts "I CAN'T PULL AWAY, WHAT THE F*CK HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTRY (redacted)??!?!," to which Page replies "I don't know. But we'll get it back."

More than two years later, the anti-Trump FBI agents may not have gotten their country back - but the special counsel's office continues to cast a shadow of doubt Trump's legitimacy.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-15/mueller-scrubbed-messages-pe
ter-strzoks-iphone-oig-recovers-19000-new-fbi-lovebird



The OIG report itself, as linked by ZH
https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2018/i-2018-003523.pdf

Another cite and link from ZH
Quote:

Obstruction? Mueller probe wiped Strzok phone before giving it to investigators

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/obstruction-mueller-probe-wipe
d-strzok-phone-before-giving-it-to-investigators
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So sad. Sig has obviously been traumatize by these people. So sad...
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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This is a follow-up to the story of Stzrok's and Page's phones being wiped. I guess getting rid of evidence is SOP for the deep state...


Quote:

Mueller Destroyed Messages From Peter Strzok's iPhone; OIG Recovers 19,000 New "FBI Lovebird" Texts

The Justice Department's internal watchdog revealed on Thursday that special counsel Robert Mueller's office scrubbed all of the data from FBI agent Peter Strzok's iPhone, while his FBI mistress Lisa Page's phone had been scrubbed by a different department, according to a comprehensive report by the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) released on Thursday.

After Strzok was kicked off the special counsel investigation following the discovery of anti-Trump text messages between he and Page, his Mueller's Records Officer scrubbed Strzok's iPhone after determining "it contained no substantive text messages," reports the Conservative Review's Jordan Schachtel.

Mueller's team was unable to locate Page's iPhone, however the DOJ's Justice Management Division (JMD) similarly scrubbed her phone - resetting it to factory settings.

Meanwhile, the OIG recovered approximately newly found 19,000 Strzok-Page texts from their Galaxy S5 phones. The messages span a "gap" in text messages between December 15, 2016 and May 17, 2017.

OIG digital forensic examiners used forensic tools to recover thousands of text messages from these devices, including many outside the period of collection tool failure (December 15, 20 I 6 to May 17, 2017) and many that Strzok and Page had with persons other than each other. Approximately 9,311 text messages that were sent or received during the period of collection tool failure were recovered from Strzok's S5 phone, of which approximately 8,358 were sent to or received from Page. Approximately 10,760 text messages that were sent or received during the period of collection tool failure were recovered from Page's S5 phone, of which approximately 9,717 were sent to or received from Strzok. Thus, many of the text messages recovered from Strzok's S5 were also recovered from Page's S5. However, some of the Strzok-Page text messages were only recovered from Strzok's phone while others were only recovered from Page's phone. -OIG Report

Thousands of text messages between Strzok and Page were recovered by the OIG, many indicating that both agents in charge of investigating Donald Trump absolutely hate him.

In August 2016, Strzok and Page discussed an "insurance policy" in the event that Trump won the election which many believe to be in reference to operation Crossfire Hurricane - the DOJ's counterintelligence investigation into Trump and his campaign.

"I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy's office - that there's no way he [Trump] gets elected - but I'm afraid we can't take that risk." wrote Strzok, adding "It's like a life insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you're 40."

In the home stretch of the 2016 US election, Strzok is fuming at Trump - texting Page: "I am riled up. Trump is a f*cking idiot, is unable to provide a coherent answer." He then texts "I CAN'T PULL AWAY, WHAT THE F*CK HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTRY (redacted)??!?!," to which Page replies "I don't know. But we'll get it back."

More than two years later, the anti-Trump FBI agents may not have gotten their country back - but the special counsel's office continues to cast a shadow of doubt Trump's legitimacy.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-15/mueller-scrubbed-messages-pe
ter-strzoks-iphone-oig-recovers-19000-new-fbi-lovebird



The OIG report itself, as linked by ZH
https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2018/i-2018-003523.pdf

Another cite and link from ZH
Quote:

Obstruction? Mueller probe wiped Strzok phone before giving it to investigators

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/obstruction-mueller-probe-wipe
d-strzok-phone-before-giving-it-to-investigators
/




19,000 text messages?? Really? 52 a day, every day for a year? Sounds... a bit implausible, don't it? And even if possible, ole ZeroProof only shares 2?! Out of 19,000?? So a huge big fat nothing then. You do know what it means to lie, right? The only one that stood out to me was him characterizing Trump just as Google does because of the immense search traffic from every day Americans thinking the very same thing: "Trump is a f*cking idiot."

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Apparently you don't believe in going to the original information ... yet another one of those too stupid/ too lazy people who won't follow a simple link, even when it's provided for them!

Some gems from the OIG report

Quote:

The Department of Justice (DOJ) Office of the Inspector General (OIG) initiated this investigation upon being notified of a gap in text message data collection for the period December 15, 2016, through May 17, 2017, from Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) mobile devices assigned to FBI employees Peter Strzok and Lisa Page related to a matter being investigated by the OIG's Oversight and Review Division. Specifically, the O(G's Cyber Investigations Office (CYBER) was asked to attempt recovery of the missing text messages for the referenced period from FBl issued mobile devices used by Strzok and Page.
Missing electronic files??? WHOODA THUNK?

Quote:

Digital Forensic Examination of the following:
FBI Samsung SS mobile device previously assigned to Strzok
FBI Samsung S5 mobile device previously assigned to Page
FBI Samsung S7 mobile device assigned to Strzok
FBI Samsung S7 mobile device assigned to Page
SCO iPhone mobile device previously assigned to Strzok
SCO iPhone mobile device previously assigned to Page

ESOC Information Technology Specialists-**** and~ **** informed OIG that FBI uses an automated application to wirelessly collect text messages sent to or from FBI-issued mobile devices. The application collects text message content and other data regarding mobile device usage [redacted] Although ESOC could not provide a specific explanation for the failure in the FBl's text message collection relating to Strzok's and Page's S5 phones

How convenient
Quote:

without testing the devices and analyzing the OIG's forensic extractions tool failure:

**** told the OIG that any one of the following factors could have caused the collection
In calendar year 2016 the collection application vendor reported a "bug" in a version of the collection. This tool which caused the application to stop collecting text message or log data- application version was replaced by a newer version that corrected the issue in March 20 I 7.
Errors during the initial installation of the collection application, such as misconfiguration during setup.
Errors in the collection application's ability to send text message data caused by software updates or operating system updates on the mobile device itself.



Now for the part that you questioned:

Quote:

Approximately 9,311 text messages that were sent or received during the period of collection tool failure were recovered from Strzok's S5 phone, of which approximately 8,358 were sent to or received from Page. Approximately 10,760 text messages that were sent or received during the period of collection tool failure were recovered from Page's S5 phone, of which approximately 9,717 were sent to or received from Strzok. Thus, many of the text messages recovered from Strzok's S5 were also recovered from Page's S5. However, some of the Strzok-Page text messages were only recovered from Strzok's phone while others were only recovered from Page's phone.
In other words, many of these texts were duplicates because they were recovered from both phones.

So why don't you trust the OIG report?

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Apparently you don't believe in going to the original information ... yet another one of those too stupid/ too lazy people who won't follow a simple link, even when it's provided for them!

Some gems from the OIG report

Quote:

The Department of Justice (DOJ) Office of the Inspector General (OIG) initiated this investigation upon being notified of a gap in text message data collection for the period December 15, 2016, through May 17, 2017, from Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) mobile devices assigned to FBI employees Peter Strzok and Lisa Page related to a matter being investigated by the OIG's Oversight and Review Division. Specifically, the O(G's Cyber Investigations Office (CYBER) was asked to attempt recovery of the missing text messages for the referenced period from FBl issued mobile devices used by Strzok and Page.
Missing electronic files??? WHOODA THUNK?

Quote:

Digital Forensic Examination of the following:
FBI Samsung SS mobile device previously assigned to Strzok
FBI Samsung S5 mobile device previously assigned to Page
FBI Samsung S7 mobile device assigned to Strzok
FBI Samsung S7 mobile device assigned to Page
SCO iPhone mobile device previously assigned to Strzok
SCO iPhone mobile device previously assigned to Page

ESOC Information Technology Specialists-**** and~ **** informed OIG that FBI uses an automated application to wirelessly collect text messages sent to or from FBI-issued mobile devices. The application collects text message content and other data regarding mobile device usage [redacted] Although ESOC could not provide a specific explanation for the failure in the FBl's text message collection relating to Strzok's and Page's S5 phones

How convenient
Quote:

without testing the devices and analyzing the OIG's forensic extractions tool failure:

**** told the OIG that any one of the following factors could have caused the collection
In calendar year 2016 the collection application vendor reported a "bug" in a version of the collection. This tool which caused the application to stop collecting text message or log data- application version was replaced by a newer version that corrected the issue in March 20 I 7.
Errors during the initial installation of the collection application, such as misconfiguration during setup.
Errors in the collection application's ability to send text message data caused by software updates or operating system updates on the mobile device itself.



Now for the part that you questioned:

Quote:

Approximately 9,311 text messages that were sent or received during the period of collection tool failure were recovered from Strzok's S5 phone, of which approximately 8,358 were sent to or received from Page. Approximately 10,760 text messages that were sent or received during the period of collection tool failure were recovered from Page's S5 phone, of which approximately 9,717 were sent to or received from Strzok. Thus, many of the text messages recovered from Strzok's S5 were also recovered from Page's S5. However, some of the Strzok-Page text messages were only recovered from Strzok's phone while others were only recovered from Page's phone.
In other words, many of these texts were duplicates because they were recovered from both phones.

So why don't you trust the OIG report?




So apparently using your brain is asking too much. Like I said, 19,000 texts and only 2 cited?? And those 2 are as big a nothing burger as has ever been served? How telling - just more nothing/sh@t screed from SIGNUT. You keep filling this forum with dead end, meaningless TEXT just to agitate and deflect. Hey - wait a sec... that sounds familiar... who else does that???

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:39 PM

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Quote:

who ... does that???- GSTRING
You, for one.


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Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:59 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Former FBI SSA Robyn Gritz’s Letter To Judge Sullivan in Support Of Flynn
By Sara Carter

Dear Judge Sullivan:
I am submitting my letter directly since Mike Flynn’s attorney has refused to submit it as well as letters submitted by other individuals. I feel you need to hear from someone who was an FBI Special Agent who not only worked with Mike, but also has personally witnessed and reported unethical & sometimes illegal tactics used to coerce targets of investigations externally and internally.

.... I met then Supervisory Special Agent Andrew McCabe, when he reported to CTD at FBIHQ, around the same time. McCabe subsequently was the Assistant Section Chief over my unit, my Assistant Special Agent in Charge at the Washington Field Office, and the Assistant Director (AD) over CTD when I encountered the discrimination and McCabe spearheaded the retaliation personally (according to documentation) against me.

I have known both men [Flynn and McCabe] for 12-13 years and worked directly with both throughout my career. They are on the opposite spectrum of each other with regard to truthfulness, temperament, and ethics, both professionally and personally.

I regularly briefed former FBI Director and Special Prosecutor Mueller on controversial and complex cases and attended Deputies meetings at the White house with then Deputy Director Pistole. I got along with both and trusted both. Watching what has been done to Mike and knowing someone on the 7th floor had to have notified Mueller of my situation (Pistole had retired), has been significantly distressing to me.

... The day after I resigned from the FBI, while I was crying, Mike reached out and congratulated me on my early retirement. I really needed to hear that from someone I respected so much. His support for the last 13 years has been unparalleled and extremely valuable in helping me get through the trauma of betrayal, unethical behavior, illegal activity executed against me [BY THE FBI]

... I believe I have a unique inside view of the mannerisms surrounding Andrew McCabe, other FBI Executive Management and Former Director Mueller, as well as the unethical and coercive tactics they use, not to seek the truth, but to coerce pleas or admissions to end the pain, as I call it. They destroy lives for their own agendas instead of seeking the truth for the American people. ... I am explaining this because numerous Agents have expressed the need for you to know McCabe’s and Mueller’s pattern of “target and destroy” has been utilized on many others, without regard for policies and laws. I, myself, am a casualty of this reprehensible behavior and I have spoken to well over 150 other FBI individuals who are casualties as well.

I am the individual who filed the Hatch Act complaint against McCabe and provided significant evidentiary documents obtained via FOIA, open source, and information from current, former, and retired Special Agents.

...I do know, from experience with McCabe, he is a vindictive individual


https://saraacarter.com/former-fbi-sac-robyn-gritzs-letter-to-judge-su
llivan-in-support-of-flynn
/

While I think that Robyn Gritz is honestly describing her experience with McCabe as a vindictive individual who lies in order to implicate people, the deep state's grotch against Flynn goes much, much deeper than anything related to her.

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Former FBI SSA Robyn Gritz’s Letter To Judge Sullivan in Support Of Flynn
By Sara Carter

Dear Judge Sullivan:
I am submitting my letter directly since Mike Flynn’s attorney has refused to submit it as well as letters submitted by other individuals. I feel you need to hear from someone who was an FBI Special Agent who not only worked with Mike, but also has personally witnessed and reported unethical & sometimes illegal tactics used to coerce targets of investigations externally and internally.

.... I met then Supervisory Special Agent Andrew McCabe, when he reported to CTD at FBIHQ, around the same time. McCabe subsequently was the Assistant Section Chief over my unit, my Assistant Special Agent in Charge at the Washington Field Office, and the Assistant Director (AD) over CTD when I encountered the discrimination and McCabe spearheaded the retaliation personally (according to documentation) against me.

I have known both men [Flynn and McCabe] for 12-13 years and worked directly with both throughout my career. They are on the opposite spectrum of each other with regard to truthfulness, temperament, and ethics, both professionally and personally.

I regularly briefed former FBI Director and Special Prosecutor Mueller on controversial and complex cases and attended Deputies meetings at the White house with then Deputy Director Pistole. I got along with both and trusted both. Watching what has been done to Mike and knowing someone on the 7th floor had to have notified Mueller of my situation (Pistole had retired), has been significantly distressing to me.

... The day after I resigned from the FBI, while I was crying, Mike reached out and congratulated me on my early retirement. I really needed to hear that from someone I respected so much. His support for the last 13 years has been unparalleled and extremely valuable in helping me get through the trauma of betrayal, unethical behavior, illegal activity executed against me [BY THE FBI]

... I believe I have a unique inside view of the mannerisms surrounding Andrew McCabe, other FBI Executive Management and Former Director Mueller, as well as the unethical and coercive tactics they use, not to seek the truth, but to coerce pleas or admissions to end the pain, as I call it. They destroy lives for their own agendas instead of seeking the truth for the American people. ... I am explaining this because numerous Agents have expressed the need for you to know McCabe’s and Mueller’s pattern of “target and destroy” has been utilized on many others, without regard for policies and laws. I, myself, am a casualty of this reprehensible behavior and I have spoken to well over 150 other FBI individuals who are casualties as well.

I am the individual who filed the Hatch Act complaint against McCabe and provided significant evidentiary documents obtained via FOIA, open source, and information from current, former, and retired Special Agents.

...I do know, from experience with McCabe, he is a vindictive individual


https://saraacarter.com/former-fbi-sac-robyn-gritzs-letter-to-judge-su
llivan-in-support-of-flynn
/

While I think that Robyn Gritz is honestly describing her experience with McCabe as a vindictive individual who lies in order to implicate people, the deep state's grotch against Flynn goes much, much deeper than anything related to her.




Perfect timing, that. ^

You failed to answer this:
So apparently using your brain is asking too much. Like I said, 9-19,000 texts and only 2 cited?? And those 2 are as big a nothing burger as has ever been served?

While you're at it:
"I have spoken to well over 150 other FBI individuals who are casualties as well." Really?? He went after 150 other people and he had that kind of power? None of them complained? Cites???

Or is this just another nothing/sh@t screed from SIGNUT? < / trick question >

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