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Just five beers a week can cause brain damage

POSTED BY: WISHIMAY
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Saturday, June 10, 2017 1:28 AM

WISHIMAY


https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2017/06/08/even-moderate-dri
nking-may-be-bad-for-the-brain/#3d654b3552e5



As the authors of the new study point out, heavy chronic drinking is linked to Korsakoff syndrome and alcoholic dementia, but not much is known about the effects of lower levels of drinking—particularly “non-dependent” drinking, over time...

It turned out that the heaviest drinkers—those drinking 30 units of alcohol per week—were at significantly higher risk of having atrophy in a brain region called the hippocampus, which is thought of as the most critical area for learning and memory, particularly verbal and spatial. But even moderate drinkers (14-21 units/week) were at a threefold risk of having atrophy in this region. Interestingly, light drinkers (up to seven units/week) didn’t seem to have any benefit over abstainers—they weren’t any increased risk, but there didn’t seem to be any protective effect of light drinking, as other studies have suggested.


.

Well, there you go. Booze probably isn't GOOD for you. Um, duh...


You know how you always see the 100 year old people saying what they did every day on news shows? I noticed that half of them say they drank spirits regularly, and I'm starting to think that people that have extremely high tolerance for sulfur or are more efficient users of it tend to live a longer time. My 92 yr old granny eats an egg every morning, although she doesn't drink a lot. She does drink 4-5 cups of coffee a day.

Hubby is now allergic to coffee, btw. Couple days before x-mas he had a glass and vomited for six hours until I gave him an activated charcoal caplet (guy he was drinking it with didn't have any problems). And I think I'm allergic to green peppers, now, too (face swelled up a bit and my lips dried out really bad). I also think our immune systems are dying off. So that's fun.

They say these old people have DNA that resists mutations, but I think it's that their connective tissues are formed better and their immune systems function better.


Do you know any really, really old people and did they have any habits they attributed their longevity to?




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Saturday, June 10, 2017 1:45 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


No beers this week. I'll try to have 3-4 over the weekend though. I'm good.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 6:49 AM

6STRINGJOKER


lol. I'm right about not turning your daughter into a walking bumper sticker, so instead of admitting that you make a thread about what everyone agrees about already, passively and aggressively aimed at me.

Pure SJW, Third Wave Feminist cowardice and immaturity right there.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:14 AM

WISHIMAY


Yeah, 'cuz EVERYTHING I do is about you

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:24 AM

6STRINGJOKER


I doubt anybody who posts regularly here is under any illusion that this wasn't about me.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:31 AM

WISHIMAY


That's it...nobody can say anything about alcohol from now on, because it might upset 6.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 12:20 PM

6STRINGJOKER


I'm not upset. I'm not surprised either. I expect this behavior from you.

I hope you do right by your daughter. I know it's hard for women like you to do the right thing when it was a man who had to point out to you what that thing was. Don't make her suffer because of your insecurities.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 1:14 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I know it's hard for women like you to do the right thing when it was a man who had to point out to you what that thing was.



Leave it to YOU to turn beer and religion into a gender thing.

Here, I'll give you her favorite video as a response. It's a language you should understand.


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Saturday, June 10, 2017 1:25 PM

6STRINGJOKER


lol. everything you do or say is a gender thing.

No surprise at all that this is your daughter's favorite video. It seems like you're doing exactly to your daughter what you hate about religious people doing to their own children. Congratulations.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 3:18 PM

OONJERAH



While I don't minimize the dangers of excessive alcohol
consumption ... the dangers of excessive religiosity
are much more fun to criticize.

Just as I'm writing this, reality struck.
I like to poke Christians for things like The Universe
was created in 4,004 B.C. I've not caught up to the fact
that rabid Islamists actually run around killing people.

Back to alcohol. Beer gives me a head ache. So I always
had a strong preference for vodka. Thank you, Russia.


... oooOO}{OOooo ...

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 5:27 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
I've not caught up to the fact
that rabid Islamists actually run around killing people.

Back to alcohol. Beer gives me a head ache. So I always
had a strong preference for vodka. Thank you, Russia.




Yeah, but...you CAN do something about ideologically ignorant, you CAN'T do ANYTHING about brainwashed to the point of insanity... (on that note...probably should go back to ignoring 6... )

I approve of your vodka...no sulfur in most of it. Drink up, yo ho

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 5:39 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:


No surprise at all that this is your daughter's favorite video. It seems like you're doing exactly to your daughter what you hate about religious people doing to their own children.



You know, in elementary school, the teachers would sit her next to the problem boys, because they wouldn't listen to the teachers... but they would listen when she told them to calm down. The teachers told ME this.

In Jr High, they would put her on projects with the emo, no talking, problem boys because they knew she would do all the work for the group and not get mad because they knew that SHE knew they were unreliable. This happened four times in the last two years. They did videos of a couple of the projects so I saw their "contribution" firsthand.

I don't even have to tell her about men, she learned that lesson repeatedly for the last EIGHT YEARS.

SHE chose to homeschool. I wonder why that is...

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 6:13 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Probably because she was singled out and always put with the boys who had problems. I'd want to stay at home too if every single teacher picked on me like that. Good thing you have video proof. Maybe you can sue somebody. Bonus points in court if all of her teachers were male and you can blame it on systemic oppression and the Patriarchy.

Good idea with the anti-religious T-shirts. Now I'm convinced. It seems your daughter is already having problems socializing with other people to the point that she asked for home schooling and you allowed it. Now you can dress her up in T-Shirts that would fit right in with San Francisco but will only further alienate her from people in your backwoods town.

I hope your a great teacher so she can get a scholarship and get the hell out of Satan's Asshole, IN.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 6:21 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Just as I'm writing this, reality struck.
I like to poke Christians for things like The Universe
was created in 4,004 B.C. I've not caught up to the fact
that rabid Islamists actually run around killing people.



Better that it strikes now then when it's somebody you care about that dies at their hands. I'm glad people's eyes are finally starting to open to this.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:19 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Now I'm convinced.



I think you mean "contrived"

If you are soo concerned with children, you should get one of your own.

Oh, that's right...NO ONE wants to breed with you. Oh, snap.






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Saturday, June 10, 2017 8:14 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Anyway ...

... one of the most damaging things you can do to your children is to have them think * I am * instead of * I do *. Because you end up with children who think they're losers - or winners - as part of their identity, rather than judging themselves by what they try and how hard they work.

One of the smartest people I'll ever know killed himself because he thought he was SOOOOO smart the world just owed him appreciation. And when that didn't happen, he ended up in a life-ending conundrum. And one of the best and wisest people I know has spent a lifetime trying to be good enough.

Don't let your daughter fall into the * I am * trap Wishi. It doesn't end well.




Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago." G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
You have a very treasonous view of how justice in the US should work, THUGGER. In fact, you have many other treasonous views as well. You hate the election process and want to void it.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 9:18 PM

WISHIMAY


My kid is freakishly well-adjusted. Not quite sure where she gets it from.
I've had teachers tell me she is an "old soul" and that she speaks like she's college educated and she's more emotionally mature than any other kid they've had. The principal at her elementary said one day he was having a bad day and he said somehow she could tell, she walked up to him and said "I know you are having a bad day, but you'll feel better tomorrow."
and patted him on the shoulder (he was sitting down talking to someone else at the time). Said he's never had that happen in 20 years in the system.

She really does have unique DNA, and a unique mindset. As long as she doesn't interact with too many assholes, I think she will do just fine.

PS Even with the Dyspraxia, she managed to make A-B honor roll for the whole year.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 9:27 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Now I'm convinced.



Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:

I think you mean "contrived"



con·trived
k?n'trivd/
adjective
adjective: contrived

deliberately created rather than arising naturally or spontaneously.
created or arranged in a way that seems artificial and unrealistic.



That is pretty funny Wish. I was deliberately created? By whom? You don't believe in God, do you?


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If you are soo concerned with children, you should get one of your own.

Oh, that's right...NO ONE wants to breed with you. Oh, snap.



Ahhhh yes. There's the Wish we all know. I was wondering when you were going to drop the passive aggressive shtick and go to full bore bitch again.

You never fail to disappoint.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:21 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Welp, no beers today, which means I'll probably not have any this week at all. Could drink on Sunday, but as I have to get up so early monday morning, I value solid, restful sleep over buzzed ( or worse ) hang over sleep.

Getting old sucks, is the saying, but I don't mind not " getting " to drink. The good feeling from drinking doesn't last as long, and it takes more time to 'recover' than it use to, so it's really not much of a choice to make. I kinda feel like my body has made the choice for me, and as long as it's happy, I guess I am too.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:39 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Welp, no beers today, which means I'll probably not have any this week at all. Could drink on Sunday, but as I have to get up so early monday morning



What DO you do, generally speaking? I'm curious.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:52 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:


deliberately artificial and unrealistic.





Kinda like your "concern" for my kid?? Which is basically just so you can work your "ideals" into the conversation, for the dozenth time.

Screw your "third wave" nonsense. You idiots don't know anything about ANY wave of women and you never did. Your obsession over feminism has more to do with your own teeny weenie then it does ANY woman.

Every time you write SJW all I can think is "MICRODICK"

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Sunday, June 11, 2017 12:40 AM

6STRINGJOKER


What ideals? I'm just pointing out to you what a shit mother you are.

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Sunday, June 11, 2017 12:58 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Welp, no beers today, which means I'll probably not have any this week at all. Could drink on Sunday, but as I have to get up so early monday morning



What DO you do, generally speaking? I'm curious.



I do the job, then I get paid.



Generally speaking, of course.

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Sunday, June 11, 2017 10:32 AM

WISHIMAY


It's not like saying what industry it's in is going to reveal your secret identity, Batman.

Like Construction, Transportation, Office, Farming?

Wait, lemme guess...Education?

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Sunday, June 11, 2017 4:35 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
It's not saying what industry it's in is going to reveal your secret identity, Batman.

Like Construction, Transportation, Office, Farming?

Wait, lemme guess...Education?



I just happen to be of the mind that what a person does to earn money shouldn't have all that much to do with how they view the world. I have a job, it's not who I am though. Unless I'm claiming to be some sort of expert on a particular field ( I'm not ) then I would expect such scrutiny or inquiry.

Like Mal says... " We're all just folk "

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Sunday, June 11, 2017 5:40 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

what a person does to earn money shouldn't have all that much to do with how they view the world
Except what you do for a living gives you vested interests. For example, I wouldn't expect an oil executive to be a global warming fan. Or a pimp to be a wholehearted believer in the sanctity of marriage. I don't expect a bank CEO to, without reservation or exception, support bank reform. You wouldn't expect Mal to support the Alliance. And so on.




Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Sunday, June 11, 2017 7:19 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



And there we have it. The cookie-cutter, stimulus/response , we can only think of & speak about that which is in our best interest pov. I have to believe that people are more than just two dimensional.

But apparently that does not apply to everyone.

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Sunday, June 11, 2017 7:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Thanks for misstating my post.

And apparently, your self-interests don't allow you to be honest or accurate.


So, shall we try again? I didn't say that people could ONLY think in terms of their self interest, so let's set your misrepresentation aside right at the outset.

Do you think that your thinking - say on global warming - is influenced by your vested interests? Or by the vested interests of your family, peers and superiors?




Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:06 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


My granny lived until she was 101. Probably had an occasional sherry but not much more in her life. She ate eggs, butter, meat, heaps of salt. Took up smoking in her 70s to annoy my mother but did a Bill Clinton - never really enhaled.

What kept her going - apart from obviously excellent genes - she never put on weight, never had a car so walked everywhere, lived rurally for most of her life, kept busy both in mind and physically and was a big believer in positive thinking.

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Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:03 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Thanks for misstating my post.



Thank YOU for distorting mine. I'd say we're even, but we're not, because I didn't misstate yours.

Quote:



And apparently, your self-interests don't allow you to be honest or accurate.



That sentence has no meaning. I've been both honest AND accurate. My ' self interest ' are mine alone. Thus SELF. Not sure what you're getting on about, accusing me of being dishonest or inaccurate.

Quote:



So, shall we try again? I didn't say that people could ONLY think in terms of their self interest, so let's set your misrepresentation aside right at the outset.

Do you think that your thinking - say on global warming - is influenced by your vested interests? Or by the vested interests of your family, peers and superiors?



When all you say is what you posted, that's how I'm going to take it. Unless your intent is to only speak in specific terms, as I referenced in MY post, your generalized response will get treated as such.

Nope, not in the least. If your aiming to suggest that my stance on AGW and all that has any bearing on my 'vested interest ', then I'm left to assume you believe i have worth while amounts of $ tied up in coal, oil, ... is that what you're getting at ? Sorry, but it literally is how I view the world. It's just that simple. I rarely share my views on this sort of stuff because too many people, quite frankly are too busy in their own lives, and just parrot back what they hear on the news. If I would dare to try to get into the details of why and how I think AGW is nonsense, the best I could hope for is they'd get bored w/ the topic. At worst, there'd be a ' difference of opinion ', which would quickly lead to not nice things being said.

I have no patience for such things, especially in the real world.


I have to laugh at some of the suggested things I must be tied to , because of my views. Trust me, nothing I say here regarding politics has much if anything to do with my job. Save for the general stuff we all deal with, taxes, govt meddling in healthcare and other areas which jack up the cost for everyone...

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Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:37 PM

6STRINGJOKER


I am literally not tied to anything. I've been accused of being on Putin's payroll here a few times though.

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Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:41 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Except what you do for a living gives you vested interests. For example, I wouldn't expect an oil executive to be a global warming fan.
They might privately admit the science is sound, but they're not going to publicly give unreserved support for it.
Quote:

Or a pimp to be a wholehearted believer in the sanctity of marriage.
Maybe some times, in some places, a pimp might have a sentimental thought for some specific marriages, but on the whole, no, not going to be preaching the sacredness of marriage to the johns.
Quote:

I don't expect a bank CEO to, without reservation or exception, support bank reform.
They might think some might be OK, but not all of them at all times.
Quote:

You wouldn't expect Mal to support the Alliance. And so on.
I made a good case that while people's feelings may be mixed, their vested interests DO exert an influence on their opinions.

And how did you misrepresent my post?
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

And there we have it. The cookie-cutter, stimulus/response , we can ONLY think of & speak about that which is in our best interest pov. I have to believe that people are more than just two dimensional.

But apparently that does not apply to everyone.

Did I state or even imply people were two-dimensional, rappy? That they could ONLY further their self-interests? The answer is, NO, I DIDN'T.
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Thanks for misstating my post.

Because here you are doubling down. What ARE you doubling down on, rappy? Dishonesty? Stupidity?
Quote:


Originally posted by AURaptor:
Thank YOU for distorting mine. I'd say we're even, but we're not, because I didn't misstate yours.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
And apparently, your self-interests don't allow you to be honest or accurate.

Your self-interests, rappy. Your pride. Your inability to publicly admit that you're wrong. THAT self-interest DEFINITELY runs your thoughts, your posts, your interactions.





Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 12:39 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Took up smoking in her 70s to annoy my mother



Wow, someone answered the original question, yay.

That's an interesting family dynamic. Did your mother deserve the irritation or did your grandma just really like the smell of it or something?

I couldn't take care of someone that smokes, the smell just makes me gag.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 12:44 AM

OONJERAH


Can just five beers a week cause argumentative posting?

I doubt it. I've known too many argumentative people
who didn't drink. But seemed to drive others to drink. :(



... oooOO}{OOooo ...

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Monday, June 12, 2017 1:44 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Can just five beers a week cause argumentative posting?

I doubt it. I've known too many argumentative people
who didn't drink. But seemed to drive others to drink. :(




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Monday, June 12, 2017 3:31 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Can just five beers a week cause argumentative posting?

I doubt it. I've known too many argumentative people
who didn't drink. But seemed to drive others to drink. :(




Yeah, I could see how being logical with people who no longer have that capacity could be annoying to the people who can't keep up anymore.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 3:35 AM

6STRINGJOKER


lol... I guess that's how it's translated from English to Hillbilly.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 6:18 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Did I state or even imply people were two-dimensional, rappy? That they could ONLY further their self-interests? The answer is, NO, I DIDN'T.


No genius, I did. Go back and re-read what I posted. That was MY assessment of your comment, and how *I* viewed it. Don't even try with this false premise b.s. that I stated or implied YOU said any thing of the sort... good grief, I pity your husband, mate, wife, what ever.

Quote:


Originally posted by 1kiki:
Because here you are doubling down. What ARE you doubling down on, rappy? Dishonesty? Stupidity?



You tell me, kitten. You're the one who accused me of being dishonest and inaccurate.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 2:26 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Well, this proves it.




Say it Nancy... PRESIDENT TRUMP ! SAY IT !!! :laugh



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Monday, June 12, 2017 2:39 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Except what you do for a living gives you vested interests. For example, I wouldn't expect an oil executive to be a global warming fan.
They might privately admit the science is sound, but they're not going to publicly give unreserved support for it.
Quote:

Or a pimp to be a wholehearted believer in the sanctity of marriage.
Maybe some times, in some places, a pimp might have a sentimental thought for some specific marriages, but on the whole, no, not going to be preaching the sacredness of marriage to the johns.
Quote:

I don't expect a bank CEO to, without reservation or exception, support bank reform.
They might think some might be OK, but not all of them at all times.
Quote:

You wouldn't expect Mal to support the Alliance. And so on.
I made a good case that while people's feelings may be mixed, their vested interests DO exert an influence on their opinions.

And how did you misrepresent my post?
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

And there we have it. The cookie-cutter, stimulus/response , we can ONLY think of & speak about that which is in our best interest pov. I have to believe that people are more than just two dimensional.

But apparently that does not apply to everyone.

Did I state or even imply people were two-dimensional, rappy? That they could ONLY further their self-interests? The answer is, NO, I DIDN'T.




Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 2:07 PM

WISHIMAY


Heavy drinkers face a greater risk of mouth and throat cancer, cancer of the voice box, liver and colorectal cancers

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5232193/Drinking-causes-canc
er-permanently-damaging-genes.html


You know why they keep saying alcohol is good for you? The alcohol industry is HUGE. They have to keep pushing it and keep propping it up constantly, no matter how many people it kills.

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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 4:20 PM

JAYNEZTOWN





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Originally posted by Wishimay:




You know why they keep saying alcohol is good for you? The alcohol industry is HUGE. They have to keep pushing it and keep propping it up constantly, no matter how many people it kills.



I think you were born in the wrong time Wishi, you sound like one of those puritan, the times of witches not too far removed from the thought police socialist or al-Lah ackbar types

Also prohibition was tried and it failed miserably, not sure about the War on Drugs either

Drink or a small drink is good for you, at least the way the French drink it, that is like One Beer...Just one...or one small glass with a meal...that's all and you remain healthy...of course there may be a ethnic or 'race' element body type where one or two beers is far to much for one person so maybe only half a beer

What's wrong is the whole industry, also the party types, young people student frat types continue what started in the whole binge drink thing. Also many people have different personalities, 'addictive' persons. Some people smoke weed, some drink, some take drug pharmaceuticals... addictive people will always do too much

I don't think young should drink or smoke, but kids are not going to listen to you anyways and will go out and do their own thing.

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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 6:01 PM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

I think you were born in the wrong time Wishi, you sound like one of those puritan, the times of witches not too far removed from the thought police socialist or al-Lah ackbar types



Yep, I'm totally the thought police. Wish I were, half the people on this board would be in jail for Crimes of Stupidity.

DID I, AT ANY TIME, *EVER* SAY NO ONE SHOULD DRINK?????

NO, I DAMN WELL DID NOT.

I have a couple glasses a year myself...but I'm not gonna pretend it's good, for anyone. The booze industry trying to pretend it is should be criminal.

I seriously doubt anyone here has such a great immune system that drinking does not affect them.

Ask any ER nurse anywhere in any country what single substance is the most damaging on the planet, every one would say alcohol. You go to any ER any Saturday night, you will hear them moaning, puking, wrecked...



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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 6:59 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Yep, I'm totally the thought police. Wish I were, half the people on this board would be in jail for Crimes of Stupidity.

DID I, AT ANY TIME, *EVER* SAY NO ONE SHOULD DRINK?????

NO, I DAMN WELL DID NOT.

I have a couple glasses a year myself...but I'm not gonna pretend it's good, for anyone. The booze industry trying to pretend it is should be criminal.

I seriously doubt anyone here has such a great immune system that drinking does not affect them.

Ask any ER nurse anywhere in any country what single substance is the most damaging on the planet, every one would say alcohol. You go to any ER any Saturday night, you will hear them moaning, puking, wrecked...





Yes like I said Alcohol is right up there, maybe just behind Tobacco as one of those drugs that messes people up or some other thing that's socially acceptable in some places but bad for you. I do agree on the race ethnic thing because I have seen it with my own eyes, some people are 'addicted' but their system allows themselves to take more alcoholic abuse. I used to travel do electrics, lights and wires on some venue and stages for a while, you would meet all kinds in the USA, Asia and Europe, you meet the film types the music types, some of them part hard and I mean hard like the guys with family from Poland, Irish, the big Germanic people, Russian grandma, they would drink shit that would kill others, sometimes it was whatever weird thing, whiskey, beers, vodka and sometimes they were up the next day and good to go for a days work again but sometimes you would get some 'Asian' type would be done after one drink and I mean 'finished'... from what I remember across Asia, Europe, the Thai would try drink socially to sell, the Japanese couldn't drink but would drink as a matter of obligation to their boss and their company night out, the South Korean can drink but would drink a lot they would have a social drinking culture matching each drink to each food and restaurant...but they would drink too much, like a US university college night, Mexican Spanish would drink but its too warm, too sticky and hot to drink in the evening so they chill out and they wait until late at night, Turk or an Arab its weird like someone let out of jail the first time or Jamaican could go batshit crazy after a few drinks..maybe the weed and alcohol made the wires in their brain short circuit? the Turk or Arab might get loud and go for each other aggressively over nothing, Russians and Nordic Scandinavian types were 'crazy' drinkers and Nordics typically could not handle their drink civilized at all but would drink anyways...Nordic are super socialist on conservative but another side comes out with drink, they got weird, almost like English soccer hooligan or a racist mob of feral neo-nazis...its all bottled inside but they let it out once in a while and with the open borders refugee thing its why I predict the Swede's are done. Russians are kinda tough happy drinkers but abuse themselves totally, they drink anything and drink until they pass out until near-death...I would say they and other cultures have some kind of problem. The French are one of the few peoples I know who drink moderate, just for the small taste or small buzz. Drinking has been around hundreds, thousands of years, and a lot of people drink its a socially acceptable thing, the Egyptians had a beer after busting themselves lifting those pyramid stones and even the Christian culture Jesus had his wine and his bread. You could ban alcohol for certain people's stupidity but people would still drink and you are back to a weird drug war and prohibition times

If I recall correct, the number one killer in the United States...forget terrorism or alcohol or wars...the number one killer of Americans is the shit food. People they are not picky like French, people in the US eat all kinds of flavored crap, people who do not care what they eat the fries, the sugars, Burger King, pizzerias, the McDonlands...its killing Americans slow, people big healthy guys are going to killing themselves slow, they will eat that final steak fried bacon sandwich pop those doctor pills and maybe finally die on the toilet from all that toxic food they ate.

2 Is maybe Lung Cancers or types of Cancers from smokes...funnily enough its not the tobacco that kills you but all the other weird shit in the cigarette and the paper is also toxic

3 Are accidents doing something stupid, someone put a box on a tiny shelf that collapsed, someone taking a wrong turn when zooming in to go get that car parking and going into another truck, some man fixing the electricity zaps himself, some woman falling down the stairs

4 Abortion kids is up there depending on how you statistically count 'terminations'...its one of them

5 so is wrong diagnosis, mal-practice, failed medical treatment, Surgeon cutting the wrong organ, Doc and drug store giving the wrong medication

I think STDs are up there, HIV/AIDS was like the 6th or maybe the 8th leading cause of death in 2014....higher also in certain countries or ethnic community, connects with lifestyle and drug use and it seems to be less of a problem say in Canada or the USA

Mass shootings, terrorism etc is way, way down the list but the make the big headlines and I suspect cancer is rising, I don't have any statistics just a general feeling it may rising in the ranks and may over take the others in the next few years....

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Friday, January 5, 2018 5:05 PM

WISHIMAY


I think this is what you were trying to say...

Alcohol-Related Deaths:
• An estimated 88,0008 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women8) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States. The first is tobacco, and the second is poor diet and physical inactivity.9
• In 2014, alcohol-impaired driving fatalities accounted for 9,967 deaths (31 percent of overall driving fatalities).



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Friday, January 5, 2018 5:14 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
I think this is what you were trying to say...

Alcohol-Related Deaths:
• An estimated 88,0008 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women8) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States. The first is tobacco, and the second is poor diet and physical inactivity.9
• In 2014, alcohol-impaired driving fatalities accounted for 9,967 deaths (31 percent of overall driving fatalities).





An important topic wish.


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Friday, January 5, 2018 8:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


The only alcohol related deaths that matter are the other people that the alcoholics kill. Otherwise, it should just be considered slow suicide and be part of the suicide statistics.

Same with smoking.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, January 5, 2018 9:05 PM

WISHIMAY


That would imply intent, most people who drink and drive only set out to "have a good time".

Drinking and driving isn't inherently suicidal, just stupid, dangerous, and narcissistic.

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Friday, January 5, 2018 9:07 PM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by Brenda:
Everything I know about alcohol and my family. Makes me very glad that I don't drink.



My dad used to make tons of home made wine, and then later he drank tons of Canadian Whiskey.

Damn Canadians

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Saturday, January 6, 2018 2:22 AM

WISHIMAY


Heck, every other person here makes it. I've made it once...you can do a real easy one by buying a high grade juice and putting sugar and little yeast, shaking it and then leaving the cap loosely on and put it in the back of a closet for a couple months. There's youtube vids for that...

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