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France Confirms No Traces Of Russian Hackers In Macron Campaign Cyber-Attack

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Thursday, June 1, 2017 12:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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In a blow to the anti-Russia narrative being spewed by any and everyone in the western establishment (most recently Hillary again), the head of the French National Agency of Information Systems Security (ANSSI) told AP that France has found no traces of Russian hackers in a cyberattack on President Emmanuel Macron's campaign (we wonder if the result would have been the same if he, like Hillary, had lost).

French Intelligence Head: there is absolutely no evidence of Russian involvement in French Elex hacking. Hack was crude; could be anyone pic.twitter.com/MCpyX87PH8 — Murad Gazdiev (@MuradGazdiev) June 1, 2017

Right after the event, it was claimed (by officials and the media lapdogs) that Russian hacking group called APT28 was responsible for the cyberattack on Macron's presidential campaign.However, according to ANSSI (the French cybersecurity agency has been investigating the attack) chief Guillaume Poupard,

the hacker attack on Macron's campaign "was so generic and simple that it could have been practically anyone."
He told AP that it "means that we can imagine that it was a person who did this alone. They could be in any country."


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-01/france-confirms-no-traces-rus
sian-hackers-macron-campaign-cyber-attack


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Thursday, June 1, 2017 12:39 PM

THGRRI


You quote zerohedge as your source. They hide their identities SIG. They can't be trusted as a source. You know this but still source them. Why, because your posts can't be trusted to be truthful either. I'll wait for a reputable source to weigh in on this.

Funny how you are so eager to vindicate Russia. Why is that comrade?






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Thursday, June 1, 2017 2:26 PM

6STRINGJOKER


When T says "reputable", he of course is referring to vox or huffpo.

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Thursday, June 1, 2017 2:40 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
When T says "reputable", he of course is referring to vox or huffpo.



Only stupid people defend the indefensible Jack. And as always, your argument does not address the facts. As always, you attempt to deflect away from the accused by claiming someone, or something else is guilty of the same. The entities you named don't hide their identities Jack. Your dislike for them is anchored in emotions not wisdom.






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Thursday, June 1, 2017 2:48 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


THUGGER - are you really so feeble-minded you can't use google? OF COURSE YOU ARE! My god, what a pathological dolt.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/french-security-chie
f-warns-of-permanent-war-in-cyberspace-35779099.html
Quote:

Mr Poupard also said there is no evidence that a notorious Russian hacking group was behind the cyber attack on President Emmanuel Macron's election campaign. The Macron campaign hack "was so generic and simple that it could have been practically anyone", he said.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/jun/01/france-warns-of-risk-of-w
ar-in-cyberspace
/
Quote:

Contrary to Rogers, who said the U.S. warned France of “Russian activity” before Macron’s win, Poupard didn’t point the finger at Russia. He told the AP that ANSSI’s investigation found no trace behind the Macron hack of the notorious hacking group APT28 ...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/cyber-war-world-warning
-france-criminals-extremists-russia-countries-guillaume-poupard-anssi-a7767886.html
Quote:

But investigators have found no evidence that a prolific Russian group was behind a hack targeting Emmanuel Macron’s campaign just days before the presidential election.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/ap-interview-france-warns-r
isk-war-cyberspace-47769054
Quote:

Contrary to Rogers, who said the U.S. warned France of "Russian activity" before Macron's win, Poupard didn't point the finger at Russia. He told the AP that ANSSI's investigation found no trace behind the Macron hack of the notorious hacking group APT28 — identified by the U.S. government as a Russian intelligence outfit and blamed for hacks of the U.S. election campaign, anti-doping agencies and other targets. The group also is known by other names, including "Fancy Bear."





Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago." G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
You have a very treasonous view of how justice in the US should work, THUGGER. In fact, you have many other treasonous views as well. You hate the election process and want to void it.

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Thursday, June 1, 2017 3:07 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


THUGGER IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Only stupid people defend the indefensible Jack. And as always, your argument does not address the facts. As always, you attempt to deflect away from the accused by claiming someone, or something else is guilty of the same. The entities you named don't hide their identities Jack. Your dislike for them is anchored in emotions not wisdom.






Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago." G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
You have a very treasonous view of how justice in the US should work, THUGGER. In fact, you have many other treasonous views as well. You hate the election process and want to void it.

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Thursday, June 1, 2017 3:21 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
THUGGER - are you really so feeble-minded you can't use google? OF COURSE YOU ARE! My god, what a pathological dolt.



No, it's just that I am not a Polish Russian sympathizer. Therefore I haven't been following the issue much in the hopes of posting about Russias' innocence. I am also aware that you and SIG are stilling claiming they didn't hack us. Your credibility is zero. And what is being reported about the French hacking is that they still don't know. Not that Russia didn't do it. You guys are sick.

That said, there is no way I am going to allow zerohedge to be sourced as though it is reputable. That's the only thing I weighed in on.






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Thursday, June 1, 2017 3:31 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


THUGGER IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.




Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago." G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
You have a very treasonous view of how justice in the US should work, THUGGER. In fact, you have many other treasonous views as well. You hate the election process and want to void it.

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Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:00 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



MEANWHILE, TO RETURN TO THE TOPIC, MULTIPLE CREDIBLE SOURCES INCLUDING ZERO HEDGE REPORT THAT FRANCE'S CYBER-SECURITY CHIEF FOUND NO EVIDENCE RUSSIA WAS INVOLVED IN THE MACRON HACK.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-01/france-confirms-no-traces-rus
sian-hackers-macron-campaign-cyber-attack
Quote:

In a blow to the anti-Russia narrative being spewed by any and everyone in the western establishment (most recently Hillary again), the head of the French National Agency of Information Systems Security (ANSSI) told AP that France has found no traces of Russian hackers in a cyberattack on President Emmanuel Macron's campaign (we wonder if the result would have been the same if he, like Hillary, had lost).
French Intelligence Head: there is absolutely no evidence of Russian involvement in French Elex hacking. Hack was crude; could be anyone pic.twitter.com/MCpyX87PH8 — Murad Gazdiev (@MuradGazdiev) June 1, 2017
Right after the event, it was claimed (by officials and the media lapdogs) that Russian hacking group called APT28 was responsible for the cyberattack on Macron's presidential campaign. However, according to ANSSI (the French cybersecurity agency has been investigating the attack) chief Guillaume Poupard,
the hacker attack on Macron's campaign "was so generic and simple that it could have been practically anyone." He told AP that it "means that we can imagine that it was a person who did this alone. They could be in any country."

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/french-security-chie
f-warns-of-permanent-war-in-cyberspace-35779099.html
Quote:

Mr Poupard also said there is no evidence that a notorious Russian hacking group was behind the cyber attack on President Emmanuel Macron's election campaign. The Macron campaign hack "was so generic and simple that it could have been practically anyone", he said.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/jun/01/france-warns-of-risk-of-w
ar-in-cyberspace
/
Quote:

Contrary to Rogers, who said the U.S. warned France of “Russian activity” before Macron’s win, Poupard didn’t point the finger at Russia. He told the AP that ANSSI’s investigation found no trace behind the Macron hack of the notorious hacking group APT28 ...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/cyber-war-world-warning
-france-criminals-extremists-russia-countries-guillaume-poupard-anssi-a7767886.html
Quote:

But investigators have found no evidence that a prolific Russian group was behind a hack targeting Emmanuel Macron’s campaign just days before the presidential election.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/ap-interview-france-warns-r
isk-war-cyberspace-47769054
Quote:

Contrary to Rogers, who said the U.S. warned France of "Russian activity" before Macron's win, Poupard didn't point the finger at Russia. He told the AP that ANSSI's investigation found no trace behind the Macron hack of the notorious hacking group APT28 — identified by the U.S. government as a Russian intelligence outfit and blamed for hacks of the U.S. election campaign, anti-doping agencies and other targets. The group also is known by other names, including "Fancy Bear."





Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago." G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
You have a very treasonous view of how justice in the US should work, THUGGER. In fact, you have many other treasonous views as well. You hate the election process and want to void it.





Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago." G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
You have a very treasonous view of how justice in the US should work, THUGGER. In fact, you have many other treasonous views as well. You hate the election process and want to void it.

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Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:08 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"it could have been ANYONE." BUT "there is absolutely no evidence of Russian involvement." So, it could even have been Macron's campaign itself. Or the US lending the campaign a helping hand with an anti-Russia frenzy. It could have been ANYONE.

But, yanno me, UNLIKE YOU, I wait for evidence before I draw my conclusions, or point my finger.

Meanwhile, why do you hate the US so much?
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."




Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago." G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
You have a very treasonous view of how justice in the US should work, THUGGER. In fact, you have many other treasonous views as well. You hate the election process and want to void it.

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Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:48 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
When T says "reputable", he of course is referring to vox or huffpo.



Only stupid people defend the indefensible Jack. And as always, your argument does not address the facts. As always, you attempt to deflect away from the accused by claiming someone, or something else is guilty of the same. The entities you named don't hide their identities Jack. Your dislike for them is anchored in emotions not wisdom.



I never said I dislike them. They're just not worth reading. They have an obvious agenda and they don't report facts. They "report" stuff without wisdom, purely based on emotion.

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Thursday, June 1, 2017 7:10 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


So ... it wasn't Russia.


Then who ?

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Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:05 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I love you, man! Preserved for later when I want to explain to others that SOME people - ahem, you! - are so demented they can take a complete absence of evidence and turn it into a fact! You couldn't have done better.
Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
So ... it wasn't Russia.


Then who ?



Whomever Russia wanted us to think it was, naturally.

==============================






Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago." G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
You have a very treasonous view of how justice in the US should work, THUGGER. In fact, you have many other treasonous views as well. You hate the election process and want to void it.

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Friday, June 2, 2017 1:40 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


With a Big Smirk on his ugly mug, Putin admits to Russian hacking. Meanwhile, back in France, Macron, in a ballsy move, tells the world that hacking by Russian operatives took place, directly to Putin's face; and he did not refute Macron's statement. Hmmmmm, so naturally this means that NO HACKING BY RUSSIANS took place.

That makes perfect sense. I guess you agree with that, don't you.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

In a blow to the anti-Russia narrative being spewed by any and everyone in the western establishment (most recently Hillary again), the head of the French National Agency of Information Systems Security (ANSSI) told AP that France has found no traces of Russian hackers in a cyberattack on President Emmanuel Macron's campaign (we wonder if the result would have been the same if he, like Hillary, had lost).

French Intelligence Head: there is absolutely no evidence of Russian involvement in French Elex hacking. Hack was crude; could be anyone pic.twitter.com/MCpyX87PH8 — Murad Gazdiev (@MuradGazdiev) June 1, 2017

Right after the event, it was claimed (by officials and the media lapdogs) that Russian hacking group called APT28 was responsible for the cyberattack on Macron's presidential campaign.However, according to ANSSI (the French cybersecurity agency has been investigating the attack) chief Guillaume Poupard,

the hacker attack on Macron's campaign "was so generic and simple that it could have been practically anyone."
He told AP that it "means that we can imagine that it was a person who did this alone. They could be in any country."


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-01/france-confirms-no-traces-rus
sian-hackers-macron-campaign-cyber-attack



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Friday, June 2, 2017 1:43 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Come on Six, how much are they paying you, really!?


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
When T says "reputable", he of course is referring to vox or huffpo.



Only stupid people defend the indefensible Jack. And as always, your argument does not address the facts. As always, you attempt to deflect away from the accused by claiming someone, or something else is guilty of the same. The entities you named don't hide their identities Jack. Your dislike for them is anchored in emotions not wisdom.



I never said I dislike them. They're just not worth reading. They have an obvious agenda and they don't report facts. They "report" stuff without wisdom, purely based on emotion.


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Friday, June 2, 2017 1:50 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Come on Six, how much are they paying you, really!?



Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Just curious - how much duz Putin pay?

Iz it salary, or per word, or wut?



I just phoned him earlier J0. He's holding my Russian bride on layaway.

What do you think? Ain't she a beauty?



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Friday, June 2, 2017 8:15 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
So ... it wasn't Russia.


Then who ?



Whomever Russia wanted us to think it was, naturally.

==============================



Man! Them Ruskies are smart!

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Friday, June 2, 2017 8:23 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by G:

Btw, your god Putin just said it could have been Russians:
" https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/01/world/europe/vladimir-putin-donald-
trump-hacking.html?_r=0


"MOSCOW — Shifting from his previous blanket denials, President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia suggested on Thursday that “patriotically minded” private Russian hackers could have been involved in cyberattacks last year that meddled in the United States presidential election."

How do you like your crow?

==============================



'omg ! omg ! He just admitted it ! '



And there's now way he could be trolling ya , huh ? Just like Hillary said there was no way that hacked e-mail data could be ' weaponized ', with out some help from Americans, right ? Because Russians are just too oblivious to how our political system, which is open for all in the world to see, btw, works.

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Friday, June 2, 2017 8:53 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Russia is a big place.

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Friday, June 2, 2017 9:00 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Russia is a big place.




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Friday, June 2, 2017 10:11 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Obviously neither of you clowns choose to understand what you read: "it could have been ANYONE."
Obviously GSTRING, YOU don't choose to understand what you read.

Please, re-read KIKI's and my posts. Did either one of us post that it was NOT RUSSIA? What you, THUGR, and KPO should look up is called "rush to judgment".

Sheesh. What a clown.





-----------

"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Friday, June 2, 2017 11:00 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Obviously neither of you clowns choose to understand what you read: "it could have been ANYONE."- GSTRING

Obviously GSTRING, YOU don't choose to understand what you read.
Please, re-read KIKI's and my posts. Did either one of us post that it was NOT RUSSIA? What you, THUGR, and KPO should look up is called "rush to judgment".
Sheesh. What a clown.- SIGNY

No, you didn't post "It's Not Russia." Just the opposite in fact:
Your thread title: "France Confirms No Traces Of Russian Hackers In Macron Campaign Cyber-Attack"
I guess I'll have to ask you from now on if you believe what you're posting.- GSTRING

I believe what I posted: It could have been ANYONE. The question is ... do you understand what I posted? Or are you just replying to the voices in your head?

My guess is the latter. It's called.... wait for it ... "rush to judgment". Look it up. You, KRAPO, THUGR, JO, and a few others jump IMMEDIATELY to judgment without thinking about alternative scenarios or just hanging back and looking for more evidence. That's why I keep telling people to put stories in emotional quarantine without jumping to conclusions, if at all possible. You "rushed to judgment" about what I posted. You ASSUMED I meant more than what I wrote. In reality, what KIKI and I both meant was limited to exactly what we posted.


-----------

"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Friday, June 2, 2017 3:15 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


GEEBERS

Here's what I posted. Perhaps you can find where I exonerated Russia. I even made a point of stressing it could have been ANYONE.

Or do YOU not know the meaning of the word ANYONE?



WHAT I POSTED (including news stories)

¤ no evidence that a notorious Russian hacking group was behind the cyber attack
¤ Poupard didn’t point the finger at Russia. He told the AP that ANSSI’s investigation found no trace behind the Macron hack of the notorious hacking group APT28
¤ no evidence that a prolific Russian group was behind a hack
¤ ANSSI's investigation found no trace behind the Macron hack of the notorious hacking group APT28
¤ Poupard didn't point the finger at Russia. He told the AP that ANSSI's investigation found no trace behind the Macron hack of the notorious hacking group APT28

¤ "it could have been ANYONE." BUT "there is absolutely no evidence of Russian involvement." So, it could even have been Macron's campaign itself. Or the US lending the campaign a helping hand with an anti-Russia frenzy. It could have been ANYONE.
But, yanno me, UNLIKE YOU , I wait for evidence before I draw my conclusions, or point my finger.





Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago." G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
You have a very treasonous view of how justice in the US should work, THUGGER. In fact, you have many other treasonous views as well. You hate the election process and want to void it.

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Friday, June 2, 2017 5:36 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


GEEBERS IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR

And, btw, why do you hate America so much?
Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."





Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago." G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
You have a very treasonous view of how justice in the US should work, THUGGER. In fact, you have many other treasonous views as well. You hate the election process and want to void it.

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Monday, June 5, 2017 4:35 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


She's a beauty alright...


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Come on Six, how much are they paying you, really!?



Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Just curious - how much duz Putin pay?

Iz it salary, or per word, or wut?



I just phoned him earlier J0. He's holding my Russian bride on layaway.

What do you think? Ain't she a beauty?




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Monday, June 5, 2017 12:55 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

WHAT I POSTED (including news stories) .... GSTRING


Yes, GSTRING.... WHAT YOU POSTED ...

Quote:

Obviously neither of you clowns choose to understand what you read: "it could have been ANYONE."- GSTRING

Obviously GSTRING, YOU don't choose to understand what you read.
Please, re-read KIKI's and my posts. Did either one of us post that it was NOT RUSSIA? What you, THUGR, and KPO should look up is called "rush to judgment".
Sheesh. What a clown.- SIGNY

No, you didn't post "It's Not Russia." Just the opposite in fact:
Your thread title: "France Confirms No Traces Of Russian Hackers In Macron Campaign Cyber-Attack"
I guess I'll have to ask you from now on if you believe what you're posting.- GSTRING

So you attacked both KIKI and myself for posting IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANYONE. It's a point we all agree on.

So, what's your beef? Or are you just irrationally bitchy?

-----------

"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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