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The Evidens

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Monday, May 22, 2017 9:51 PM

JO753

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I will start this topic with a clarification on the meaning uv the word eVIDeNS.

Most peepl confuze it with 'proof' - sumthing that leadz directly to an undeniabl conclusion. Proof can be thot uv az a yes/no binary term. Sumthing either iz or iz not proof. There iz no degree to it.

Evidens can be anything - a 5th hand comment about a 3rd hand quote uv sumthing a drunk Skid Row bum mumbled in hiz sleep. Thats extreemly weak evidens, you woudnt bet much on it being true or even related to wutever you are considering, but its still evidens. It mite be true and related to your subject AND helpful.

Or evidens can be the literal smoking gun in the hand uv the perpetrator, identical to 'proof'. It can be anything between the 2 extreemz.

With this in mind, you can see that the statements 'there iz zero eveidens' and 'I see no evidens' rarely make sens.

Obviously, you haf to grade the value uv evidens, otherwize you coud waste a bunch uv time and effort prosessing garbaj. If sumwun iz oppozing you, they coud flood you with all sorts uv junk they just made up.

Now, if you want to derail the topic by trotting out a dictionary definition that duznt jibe with this, too bad - I'm claiming that eVIDeNS iz a new Nooalf word that, altho based on the old English 'evidence' iz more presise and useful. (even if I spell it in the casual slakrz nqalf way 'evidens')

If you arent clear on the consept uv meanz, motive & opportunity, look it up.

I'm going to try to list stuff in kronolojikl order. I will number each post so you dont haf to quote the entire thing for us to no wut yr commenting on.

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Monday, May 22, 2017 10:26 PM

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Post #1. Early connectionz

1986: Soviet ambassador Yuri Dubinin sat next to The Donald during a New York lunch. Trump sed “One thing led to another, and now I’m talking about building a large luxury hotel across the street from the Kremlin in partnership with the Soviet government.” He bragz about it in The Art uv the Deal. He went to Moscow to discuss the hotel project with the Soviet tourism agency.

Speculation: The young playboy Trump had sum fun wile he wuz there and therez a good chans he got snagged by the KGB Kompromat operation. Its possible he coud hav been on the hook sins then.

Possibly even earlier, Trump or hiz dad may hav had sum involvement with the Russian mobz that sprung up in New York in the 70z & 80z. Organized criminalz are alwayz attracted to construction for sum reazon. I suppoze its eazy to set up bribez with burokrats and offer 'protection' for construction sites and material shipments. Wether theze mobz were connected with the Soviet gummit or not iz debatable.
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/08/23/nyregion/influx-of-russian-gangsters
-troubles-fbi-in-brooklyn.html?pagewanted=all


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Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:33 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


ev·i·dence
'ev?d?ns/
noun
noun: evidence

1.
the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
"the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination"


I don't think anonymous gossip can be used to indicate whether anything at all is valid. I sure hope you don't either.



Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:42 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

ev·i·dence
'ev?d?ns/
noun
noun: evidence
1.the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
"the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination"


I don't think anonymous gossip can be used to indicate whether anything at all is valid. I sure hope you don't either.



HAHAHAHA!

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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:01 AM

6STRINGJOKER


According to J0's NooAlf definition of Evidence, I'm a Nazi, Signey is a Communist and here's a picture of J0:


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Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:39 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Post #1. Early connectionz

1986: Soviet ambassador Yuri Dubinin sat next to The Donald during a New York lunch. Trump sed “One thing led to another, and now I’m talking about building a large luxury hotel across the street from the Kremlin in partnership with the Soviet government.” He bragz about it in The Art uv the Deal. He went to Moscow to discuss the hotel project with the Soviet tourism agency.

Speculation: The young playboy Trump had sum fun wile he wuz there and therez a good chans he got snagged by the KGB Kompromat operation. Its possible he coud hav been on the hook sins then.

Possibly even earlier, Trump or hiz dad may hav had sum involvement with the Russian mobz that sprung up in New York in the 70z & 80z. Organized criminalz are alwayz attracted to construction for sum reazon. I suppoze its eazy to set up bribez with burokrats and offer 'protection' for construction sites and material shipments. Wether theze mobz were connected with the Soviet gummit or not iz debatable.
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/08/23/nyregion/influx-of-russian-gangsters
-troubles-fbi-in-brooklyn.html?pagewanted=all


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Looks as though you struck a nerve JO753.







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Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:21 PM

JO753

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Yep. Look who showz up. Muller shoud take note.

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Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:45 PM

JO753

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Post #2: the 1990z - 2000z

Really a continuation uv post #1.

In 96 Trump went to Moscow trying to arranje bilding a replica uv Trump Tower there. Didnt pan out so he wanted to renovate sum hotelz in Moscow. He wuz in the middle uv hiz big bankruptsy scam, so insted uv uzing hiz own money, he wuz tokking to oligarks. They often need to hide money that theyv stolen from Russia, so he had their interest.

He sold alot uv New York condo units to them. (Probably at wildly inflated prisez with a hidden kickback)

Maybe the biggest example uv this wuz in 2006. He got 95,000,000$ for a Florida estate that he'd bot for 41,000,000$. The buyer, Dmitry Rybolovlev,
a close Putin ally, never even bothered to go there. Rybo may hav bot it just to reduse hiz divors settlement!
http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/27/news/donald-trump-russian-deal-mansion/

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Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:46 PM

JO753

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A little adendum to the openning post:

Evidens uv any degreee uv quality can be disproven, THEN its no longer evidens.

You can see that the amount uv time you coud spend trying to verify the Skid Row bum exampl coud get rediculous, so really iznt worth pursuing unless you had absolutely nothing else and your case wuz very important.

An example on the other end uv the spectrum woud be a devise suppozedly from a UFO. To a layman it coud look extreemly hi tek, beyond the capabilityz uv human manufacture. A UFO fraudster coud make up a story about Alienz fixing their ship in the forest and leaving it behind. He coud hav weird symbolz lazer engraved on it. Very convinsing hold-it-in-your-hand PROOF!

But 10 minits uv Google Imaje serch woud turn up a common military surplus fuel pump.

Az good az the evidens seemed, it iz now debunked and no longer evidens uv alien vizitorz.

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Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:17 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Oh. Well in that case....

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Tuesday, May 23, 2017 7:09 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Keep on, Jo, I'm reading but too busy right now to post something thoughtful...

Between dental appts, ortho appts, insurance paperwork, and end of school yr stuff... too much to concentrate on...

There appears to be some white noise in yer thread, tho. Shame about that.


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Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:43 PM

JO753

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Post #3. Trumps Own Wordz

Trump haz been complimentary to Putin for yirz. During the primaryz and the main election he repeatedly disparaged Obama or Hillary in the same sentens az he praized Putin. Even wuns frum any previous prezidential candidate woud hav likely scuttled their chansez, but thanks to Fox and their GoP propaganda cohorts sowing hate agenst Demz for yirz, Trump gets away with virtually anything, including treazon, so duzenz uv anti-American pro-Russian statements did not turn away hiz voterz.

Herez a list:
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/03/politics/trump-putin-russia-tim
eline
/

Reading them all assembled, you can detect an vage element uv fear in Trump - that maybe he haz such a damming load uv blackmail hanging over him that he iz desperate to pleez Putin any way he can think uv.

At sum point in 2013 he seemz to be trying to hide previous association with Putin. He tweets sumthing like "coud be my new frend", the way a child woud try to fool hiz parents that he didnt no the bad kid before, so had nothing to do with the mischief. But we alredy no about the 2006 Florida estate deal, and there are sertainly going to be a barje load more kuming to lite.

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Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:51 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
...Trump gets away with virtually anything, including treazon...



Impossible to take you seriously when you say things like this.


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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:14 AM

JO753

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Post #4. Hiz Associates & Cabinet

Paul Manafort, campane advizor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Manafort

Apparently he haz made a career in selling out the US by advizing GoP prezidential campanez. Its alarming to me that our security iz so lax that he wuznt put out uv biz decadez ago.

So, out uv the thouzandz uv possible good clean Russian-connection-free bonafide conservative Republican campane manajerz he had to chooze from, sumhow, the guy who gets paid 10,000,000$ per yir to help Russian interests
iz Trumps pik.

Micheal Flynn, Security Advizor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_T._Flynn

It kinda looks like he just went nuts at sum point. Or maybe he iz also a Kompromat victim and thats how he ended up sitting at the same table with Putin, giving a paid speech for RT, taking a Russian paid contract to aid Turkey'z newest dictator.

Agen, out uv all the thouzandz uv potential candidates for the pozition, why him?

Rex Tillerson, Secretary uv State.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Tillerson

Trump didnt no this guy from Arthur Carlson last yir. So, did Rex launch a major campane to get the job? Did all the oil executivez get together at the Koch Brotherz house to draw strawz? According to Wiki, he wuz nominated by Condoleeza Rice.

If you think that its just a wild coinsidens that he happenz to be a Frend Uv Russia medal winner, bestowed by Putin himself, you WERE literally born yesterday AND fell off the turnip truck AND purchased the Brooklin brij frum a uzed refrijerator salezman in Gary Indiana. Tillersonz actionz sins taking offis coud not be any more clearly in servis uv Putin.

Eric Prince
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Prince

This splooj monkey haz sumthing to do with the Russian connection, but so far the only thing thats kum out iz a meeting with a Russian oligark in Saudi Arabia to set up a back channel communication with Putin. Therez going to be more about him, kuz hiz utterly unqualified sister got awarded with the Secretary uv Education pozition.

Thats just a start. There are at least a dozen more, sum that youv alredy herd uv and many hoo will likely remain minor footnotes, but seriously, how many do you need befor you realize that TRUMP HAZ SUM CONNECTION TO RUSSIA?

My opinion iz that Putin and hiz team picked virtually everybody. If there iz anybody that Trump picked for himself, he had to get approval from Putin first.

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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:46 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
... but seriously, how many do you need befor you realize that TRUMP HAZ SUM CONNECTION TO RUSSIA?

My opinion iz that Putin and hiz team picked virtually everybody. If there iz anybody that Trump picked for himself, he had to get approval from Putin first.



Risking bringing T in this conversation to call me a Commie or another Putin puppet, I don't see what's so wrong about having "some connection to Russia", in and of itself. The way things have been going in the EU, I actually feel more comfortable with that connection than with.... say... Merkel.

There could be something to what you say. By all means, investigate the man. We waste tons of tax payer dollars on much less important things everyday from handouts to war. It is important to be able to trust our president, or at least trust that he's not "in bed" with the Russians. I'm for spending that money investigating it even if it turns up nothing.

The problem J0, is when you take some legitimate concerns and blow them completely out of proportion and accuse Trump of treason and/or being a slave to Putin.

I expect that from Rachel Maddow. She's making 7 million dollars a year speaking to her echo chamber that was yelling "Fuck Trump", "Not my president" and "No way, KKK" from day one.

I expect more from you though.

It is possible to get your point across without peppering in obvious bias and unsubstantiated claims. When you do that, although you might get pats on the back by the echo chamber, you basically shut the conversation down when it comes to moderates or anybody on the other side.

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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:40 AM

G

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
... but seriously, how many do you need befor you realize that TRUMP HAZ SUM CONNECTION TO RUSSIA?

My opinion iz that Putin and hiz team picked virtually everybody. If there iz anybody that Trump picked for himself, he had to get approval from Putin first.



Risking bringing T in this conversation to call me a Commie or another Putin puppet, I don't see what's so wrong about having "some connection to Russia", in and of itself. The way things have been going in the EU, I actually feel more comfortable with that connection than with.... say... Merkel.

There could be something to what you say. By all means, investigate the man. We waste tons of tax payer dollars on much less important things everyday from handouts to war. It is important to be able to trust our president, or at least trust that he's not "in bed" with the Russians. I'm for spending that money investigating it even if it turns up nothing.

The problem J0, is when you take some legitimate concerns and blow them completely out of proportion and accuse Trump of treason and/or being a slave to Putin.

I expect that from Rachel Maddow. She's making 7 million dollars a year speaking to her echo chamber that was yelling "Fuck Trump", "Not my president" and "No way, KKK" from day one.

I expect more from you though.

It is possible to get your point across without peppering in obvious bias and unsubstantiated claims. When you do that, although you might get pats on the back by the echo chamber, you basically shut the conversation down when it comes to moderates or anybody on the other side.



Jesus, go fuck yourself. You spend 4 years throwing up on this board and NOW you - of all people - are going to say you're disappointed in Jo?!?!?!?! 'Cuz he didn't hold you hand softly enough?????? God damn unbelievable.

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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:54 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Jesus, go fuck yourself. You spend 4 years throwing up on this board and NOW you - of all people - are going to say you're disappointed in Jo?!?!?!?! 'Cuz he didn't hold you hand softly enough?????? God damn unbelievable.

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I'm disappointed in J0 because he brings up some good points, but nobody but the regular crowd that is already shitting on Trump are going to take any of them seriously when he puts those Liberal talking points in there. He's smarter than that. He's absolutely without a doubt smarter than Rachel Maddow.

Take it down a notch killer.

I'm really getting bored of you bringing up my past drinking problems. If you don't have anything constructive to say, just go away.

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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:59 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Yep. Look who showz up. Muller shoud take note. - JO
Is this a subtle threat? If so, then yer a Nazi, and a traitor to (among other things) the First Amendment.

It's about time we got that whole use of "traitor" and "treason" straight. Some people (ahem!) don't seem to understand the meaning of the word.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:08 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

The problem J0, is when you take some legitimate concerns and blow them completely out of proportion and accuse Trump of treason and/or being a slave to Putin.

I expect that from Rachel Maddow. She's making 7 million dollars a year speaking to her echo chamber that was yelling "Fuck Trump", "Not my president" and "No way, KKK" from day one.

I expect more from you though.

It is possible to get your point across without peppering in obvious bias and unsubstantiated claims. When you do that, although you might get pats on the back by the echo chamber, you basically shut the conversation down when it comes to moderates or anybody on the other side. - SIX

Jesus, go fuck yourself. You spend 4 years throwing up on this board and NOW you - of all people - are going to say you're disappointed in Jo?!?!?!?! 'Cuz he didn't hold you hand softly enough?????? God damn unbelievable.- GSTRING

As usual, GSTRING, whenever you're confronted with an argument that you can't answer, you go for the "personal attack" and reveal yourself to be a dyed-in-the-wool asshole.

SIX never attacked people like you do. I prefer a drunk SIX to a sober you. Because SIX can apparently stop drinking, but you just can't seem to stop being a jerk.


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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:11 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


BTW, JO, I hope you realize that I'm just barely skimming your posts because they're 99.999% bullshit and speculation.

Trump went to Russia in 1986?!?! OMG!!! STOP THE PRESSES!

Trump doesn't want to unnecessarily antagonize Putin?? TREASON!!!

Good lord, JO.

I agree with SIX.... I would prefer that there be "contacts" with Russia. BTW- there always have been, even with Obama. Even with Hillary. Even with Reagan.

It depends on what those contacts are for. Are they for normal discussion? To do business? To develop a common policy on terrorism? To reduce the risk of war? I'm all for it.

Unless these "contacts" are for something nefarious, something which does not serve our interests, then we benefit.

Which reminds me: JO - WHAT ARE OUR INTERESTS AND HOW DOES RUSSIA THREATEN THEM? You have a candidacy so you should have an answer by now. If you don't then you have a real weak spot in your platform.

Despite that fact that you, THUGR, and GSTRING go on and on ... and on and on ... about America, and being "for" America, and people who aren't "for" America, you collectively have never been able to figure out what being"for" America is. I PREDICT THAT YOU WILL NEVER ANSWER THIS QUESTION. But I hope you surprise me.






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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 2:33 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:Is this a subtle threat?


No. Its about you acting like a paid social media operativ for Putin.

Quote:


It's about time we got that whole use of "traitor" and "treason" straight.



A severe flaw in the Constitution iz the extreemly weak loyalty requirements for The Prez. Being born here duz not garrantee loyalty. The little promis in the inauguration iz worthless with out a clearly defined penalty.

Trump iz working for Putin. Putinz interest iz to bring America down az many notchez az he can in any way possible wether it directly benefits him or not.

Wen Trump piks an assclown pollution proponent to run the EPA, Putin iz happy. 'Dirty America' will fizikly hurt us and our international reputation. 'Look at thoze filthy American pigz choking on their own fumez'.

Wen Trump puts a Bible thumper in charj uv education, Putin iz happy. He can look forward to America bekuming even stoopider in the future.

The media goez into overdrive wen a terrorist killz a dozen peepl sumwhere. Our military and intel haz been working on the radical Islam problem for 20 yirz. Trillionz uv dollarz spent all in the name uv security. How many Americanz will sicken and die wen the GoPs get their 'American Health Care Act' running? How many more uv us will get sick and die from increased pollution, unsafe food and medisin? A terrorist woud be elevated to Mohamed'z status if he accomplished 1/10 uv that!

Putin spendz pocket chanje (relativly) and gets direct up to the minit akses to our most secret secrets.

How iz Trump not a traitor? How iz this not treazon?

Assuming for just a moment that you three are not being paid by Putin, do you need to get kicked in the hed by a viziting dictator'z thugz outside the White House gates befor you wake up?

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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 2:51 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:I don't see what's so wrong about having "some connection to Russia", in and of itself.


Niether do I.

We usually say 'Russia' but thats like blaming the ranch and all the cowz for the crimez uv the evil rancher and hiz nasty cowboyz.

Putin iz an autocrat. A bad dictator who'z 1st victim wuz Russia and he haz greater ambitionz.

Appeazing dictatorz duznt work. Going along with their wishez, even if they seem helpful to you iz danjerous, kuz more likely than not, it will turn out to be just a move in a chess game that they want to win.

You will notis that I never call Putin an idiot.

He iz a genius and he iz winning.

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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:14 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BTW, JO, I hope you realize that I'm just barely skimming your posts because they're 99.999% bullshit and speculation.



Ignorans iz bliss.

Do you think cowz mite put up more uv a fite if they knew wut wuz waiting for them on the other side uv the door?

Quote:

Despite that fact that you, THUGR, and GSTRING go on and on ... and on and on ... about America, and being "for" America, and people who aren't "for" America, you collectively have never been able to figure out what being"for" America is. I PREDICT THAT YOU WILL NEVER ANSWER THIS QUESTION. But I hope you surprise me.


Its about the purpose uv sivilization. If it duznt make life better for the individual to be a member, it iz worthless.

A country'z goverment'z purpose iz to increase the level uv sivilization az hi az possible for az many uv it sitizenz az possible.

If youv read my campane website, maybe the total meaning can be unclear, but thats wut its about - making America the best example uv sivilization in the world.

I believ the basic system created by the founderz iz good, but needz sum serious work to fix orijinal flawz and to update it for todayz conditionz.
Lern from our mistakes. Lern from otherz mistakes. Lern from history.


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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:54 PM

G

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Jesus, go fuck yourself. You spend 4 years throwing up on this board and NOW you - of all people - are going to say you're disappointed in Jo?!?!?!?! 'Cuz he didn't hold you hand softly enough?????? God damn unbelievable.

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I'm disappointed in J0 because he brings up some good points, but nobody but the regular crowd that is already shitting on Trump are going to take any of them seriously when he puts those Liberal talking points in there. He's smarter than that. He's absolutely without a doubt smarter than Rachel Maddow.



You don't listen to her, remember? More Jackshit.

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker: I'm really getting bored of you bringing up my past drinking problems. If you don't have anything constructive to say, just go away.


Awwwww, poor Jack - imagine how bored we were. You bring it up way more than anyone else. Stop thinking of yourself one time. In 4 years did we ever say, "if you don't have anything sober to say just go away?" You're such an ungrateful pos.
Put it this way: you should really have enough awareness to know you don't get to tell other people how to act around here.

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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:03 PM

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... fully loaded, safety off...


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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The problem J0, is when you take some legitimate concerns and blow them completely out of proportion and accuse Trump of treason and/or being a slave to Putin.

I expect that from Rachel Maddow. She's making 7 million dollars a year speaking to her echo chamber that was yelling "Fuck Trump", "Not my president" and "No way, KKK" from day one.

I expect more from you though.

It is possible to get your point across without peppering in obvious bias and unsubstantiated claims. When you do that, although you might get pats on the back by the echo chamber, you basically shut the conversation down when it comes to moderates or anybody on the other side. - SIX

Jesus, go fuck yourself. You spend 4 years throwing up on this board and NOW you - of all people - are going to say you're disappointed in Jo?!?!?!?! 'Cuz he didn't hold you hand softly enough?????? God damn unbelievable.- GSTRING

As usual, GSTRING, whenever you're confronted with an argument that you can't answer, you go for the "personal attack" and reveal yourself to be a dyed-in-the-wool asshole.

SIX never attacked people like you do. I prefer a drunk SIX to a sober you. Because SIX can apparently stop drinking, but you just can't seem to stop being a jerk.


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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one




"Jo , stop polishing your turd."
"Jo, I don't read 99% of what you write because it's bullshit."

Who's the asshole? Right, my bad, you're a lying asshole.

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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:16 PM

6STRINGJOKER


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Originally posted by JO753:
Assuming for just a moment that you three are not being paid by Putin, do you need to get kicked in the hed by a viziting dictator'z thugz outside the White House gates befor you wake up?



Yes. Because everything else you just put in that post is stuff that I have said has been going on a long time (3 presidents' time now, actually).

We agree on a lot. We come to a disagreement when you think Obama was good for us and this is now only beginning under Trump because of Putin.

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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:23 PM

6STRINGJOKER


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Originally posted by G:
Jesus, go fuck yourself. You spend 4 years throwing up on this board and NOW you - of all people - are going to say you're disappointed in Jo?!?!?!?! 'Cuz he didn't hold you hand softly enough?????? God damn unbelievable.

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Originally posted by G:
You don't listen to her, remember? More Jackshit.

Awwwww, poor Jack - imagine how bored we were. You bring it up way more than anyone else. Stop thinking of yourself one time. In 4 years did we ever say, "if you don't have anything sober to say just go away?" You're such an ungrateful pos.



Well now, you are quite the angry little man, aren't you.


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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:20 PM

JO753

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Post #5. The Coverups & Liez

I coudnt find a complete list uv all the liez Turmp and hiz peepl hav told about the Putin connectionz and collusion, but here'z a Washington post article about it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/05/22/collusio
n-will-not-determine-trumps-fate/?utm_term=.31d085b396de


Trump fired Sally Yates within a few dayz uv her warning him that Flynn iz comprimized & coud be blackmailed. He didnt ask Flynn to rezine for another 18 dayz, and then only kuz uv breaking newz making it impossible for him to stay.

He asked Comey and at least 2 other intel dept hedz to publicly deny he wuz being investigated for colluding with the Russianz.

He fired Comey and sent hiz peeps out to push a lie that it wuz due to Comey mishandling the Hillary email investigation. He had The AG & deputy AG create a memo to back this lie up.

Then he tossez the whole lot into the trash, including hiz lackeyz, and admits he fired Comey to stop the investigation.

He fired Preet Barara to stop investigationz into Russian money laundering and other financial crimez that certainly involve Trump and hiz associates.

You don't lie about sumthing if you werent aware uv it or that it wuz illegal. You dont fire peepl who are investigating you if you are innosent.

Pence iz neck deep in this. Who knowz about Ryan? Hiz statement about the 'Putin payz Rorhabacher and Trump' iz suspicious. So who'z next in line after him? The Attorney General Jeff Sessionz? Too bad he'z alredy known to be deeply involved.

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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:39 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


An interesting aspect uv this iz that the GoPs were alredy aware to sum degree uv Trumps Putin connectionz.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-
leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html?utm_term=.2a0746cf4480


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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:56 PM

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You don't lie about sumthing if you werent aware uv it or that it wuz illegal. You dont fire peepl who are investigating you if you are innosent.


You do if you're a troll. I already stated my theory about why he did this in another thread.

If he's guilty, it will come out. Doing that certainly does make him look guilty and even I would be pissed off if there was no investigation now. That's why I don't believe he is guilty.

One of three things happens now.

1. Trump proves to us and the world that he has absolute control and is above any investigations. (Extremely unlikely, and I'd like to think that there would be a revolt by the people).

2. Trump is proven guilty. (Unlikely. I don't believe this move would have been made if he was guilty because even his supporters have to at least raise an eyebrow at this move).

3. Trump is going to embarrass Democrat and GOP politicians that have been calling for his head, and likely ruin the careers of quite a few MSM talking heads. (That's where my money would be if gambling were one of my vices).

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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:46 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


It looks like someone has gone from annoying youtube vids to annoying memebase crap...


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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:49 PM

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Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:19 AM

JO753

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
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You don't lie about sumthing if you werent aware uv it or that it wuz illegal. You dont fire peepl who are investigating you if you are innosent.


You do if you're a troll. I already stated my theory about why he did this in another thread.

If he's guilty, it will come out. Doing that certainly does make him look guilty and even I would be pissed off if there was no investigation now. That's why I don't believe he is guilty.

One of three things happens now.

1. Trump proves to us and the world that he has absolute control and is above any investigations. (Extremely unlikely, and I'd like to think that there would be a revolt by the people).

2. Trump is proven guilty. (Unlikely. I don't believe this move would have been made if he was guilty because even his supporters have to at least raise an eyebrow at this move).

3. Trump is going to embarrass Democrat and GOP politicians that have been calling for his head, and likely ruin the careers of quite a few MSM talking heads. (That's where my money would be if gambling were one of my vices).



I wanted to quote this hole thing, kuz you are going to want to edit or delete it later wen it bekumz undeniabl proof that you are an idiot (most likely) or being paid to post such nonsens.

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Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

3. Trump is going to embarrass Democrat and GOP politicians that have been calling for his head, and likely ruin the careers of quite a few MSM talking heads. (That's where my money would be if gambling were one of my vices).

I vote for #3, except the embarrassing part will be how slow the investigation proceeds and how quickly will follow the pardon of prison sentences. It took twenty-two months for an investigation by a special council before Scooter Libby, who worked in the White House from 2001 to 2005, was indicted. Everyone should expect this investigation will take at least as long before Trump or Pence commutes all the prison sentences or gives a blanket pardon to everybody involved, just like Bush commuted Scooter's 30 month sentence. That will make the entire exercise of gathering evidence a waste of time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Libby

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:25 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
I wanted to quote this hole thing, kuz you are going to want to edit or delete it later wen it bekumz undeniabl proof that you are an idiot (most likely) or being paid to post such nonsens.



I'll keep this thread bookmarked.

I'll remember you said that when nothing comes of any of this.


Hell J0. Even Second is making a lot more sense than you are in your own thread.



And BTW... why would you think of all of the posts that I've written over the years here that THIS is the ONE that I would edit or delete?

Nope... I don't do that.

I might make a few edits here and there about 5 minutes after I post something, but everything I ever posted is still up here for T to dig up.

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Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:16 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Yep. Look who showz up. Muller shoud take note.- JO
Is this a subtle threat? - SIGNY
No. Its about you acting like a paid social media operativ for Putin.- JO

In other words, it's a subtle threat.

Jo, I'm going to tell you a story which I hope you'll take the time to read. It's a real-life story (mine) with strange parallels to today.

A long time ago, on a website far away ...

This was a website dedicated mostly to neurological disorders, and there was a forum for parents of neuroatypical children. Many of the participants were midwestern stay-at-home moms; but wherever we were from this was where we came to share information and heartache. 9-11 affected everyone; discussion about it derailed most forums, so the webmaster decided to corral the discussions by creating a real-world events discussion forum, much like Haken did here.

9-11, in my view, was no big surprise. It didn't take a genius to draw a straight line between the Kenyan embassy bombing or the attack on the Cole and the USA. There was nothing between us and "them" except a big empty ocean, and any dedicated terrorist would find their way across sooner or later. It was just a matter of time, and I spent the roughly three years after the Embassy bombing waiting for the other shoe to drop. Hubby and I would think about how one could do the most damage with the least effort; and in the end, when 9-11 happened, I was actually somewhat relieved that "the worst" didn't happen because it could have been so much worse. I won't say how, but we could have been talking millions of dead, not thousands.

In some ways, I didn't understand most people's terror and surprise. I was telling people to get over their shock and terror because we needed to DEAL with the foreign policy that caused this, and deal with the threat of terrorism at home. Needless to say, people hated me, and I was accused of being .... wait for it ... a terrorist sympathizer.

Then, when GWB started cranking up the war propaganda machine to bomb Afghanistan back into the stone age, I was heartsick. There he was, making innocent people suffer by bombing them for a cause that they didn't even choose. I could imagine Afghanistan being torn apart- again - and us being involved in an endless guerrilla war, another Vietnam, just in a different place. So I started making predictions ... we're planning to invade. We're going to start by bombing, followed by our tanks and troops. Each prediction was followed by a chorus of "No we aren't" which was followed by the event.

As you may recall, at that point, there had been SOME evidence that Osama bin Laden had been experimenting with chemical weapons. I thought that Osama's plan was ... well, if the mountain won't come to Mohammed, Mohammed must go to the mountain. I thought that Osama had lured those distant faraway American troops into a trap, that in some cold mountain pass, where troops would be all bunched up, hell would be unleashed on them.

So I predicted something like "Right about now I'd be worried about chemical or biological weapons".

Well, as luck would have it, the anthrax letters were mailed about a week or so later. OMG, did some on the board go into a tizzy! Since they were already convinced that I was at least a terrorist sympathizer, and they knew I knew something about science ... well, hell, I might have been a terrorist myself! Maybe even someone who sent those anthrax letters! So they urged the webmaster to give my particulars to the FBI, and few weeks after that, when the FBI was swarming around the middleastern community in Orange County, they detailed a few of their (probably junior staff) to follow me.

Now, I was completely innocent of anything, and all I had been saying was.... this isn't going to work, we have to stop invading so many nations and making so many enemies; we need to be an awful lot smarter about our foreign policy and internal security.

At the time, dear daughter was slipping into dementia from uncontrolled seizures; she was depending on ME as an anchor to reality. If I had been arrested and detained, even for a few weeks, I can't imagine what might have happened to her.

To continue the story, by the time Congress passed the so-called "Patriot" Act, the destruction of Afghanistan was well underway and GWB was gearing up for ANOTHER invasion, I was livid. Even though I TOLD people that they were being driven by hysteria and scare-mongering, that everything they read in the newspaper was bullshit ... about Sarin, about yellowcake, about aluminum tubes, anthrax, nuclear bombs and all of the rest of it was all LIES, nobody would listen because they were already CONVINCED I didn't have our interests at heart. I was a "terrorist sympathizer" you see, because I was CRITICIZING the WH, the media, and the war drumbeat.

I watched as nearly an entire nation (less approx 30%, who had more common sense) was driven temporarily insane by a torrent of bullshit, brought to you by (nearly) every high-ranking foreign-policy or military person in the WH, from Condoleezza Rice to Colin Powell to Donald Rumsfeld to the President himself, dutifully and (mostly unquestioningly) repeated in the media ... particularly Judith Miller of the NYT.

Now, some of these scaremongering items I KNEW to be false ... the supposed yellowcake contract was replete with obvious forgeries, the "aluminum tubes" didn't meet the specs for nuclear centrifuges (They would have been pulled part under those high-speed centrifugal forces), the supposed connection of Saddam to 9-11, the grainy photos of ... nothing really ... some of the most elaborate confabulations tied together with the thinnest strings of "maybes" and "possiblies". But the reason why I knew it was ALL bullshit was the rapidly-shifting narrative, the increasing emotional immediacy ("west, east, north, south somewhat of Baghdad", video clips of nuclear explosions "because you don't want the smoking gun to be this") the unwillingness to wait for Hans Blix to collect definitive evidence ...


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Does any of that sound familiar?

Just OOC, JO, what did you think about our invasion of Afghanistan? Of Iraq? How did you feel about our destruction of Libya?

If at any point in our rampage through the Middle East, did you start out agreeing and then possibly change your mind? And if you did, why did you start out with one idea and wind up with another? If you've learned anything from experience and history, what did you learn?

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Thursday, May 25, 2017 8:50 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

. . . all I had been saying was.... this isn't going to work, we have to stop invading so many nations and making so many enemies; we need to be an awful lot smarter about our foreign policy and internal security.
. . . what did you think about our invasion of Afghanistan? Of Iraq? How did you feel about our destruction of Libya?

If at any point in our rampage through the Middle East, did you start out agreeing and then possibly change your mind? And if you did, why did you start out with one idea and wind up with another? If you've learned anything from experience and history, what did you learn?

I learned that Osama bin Laden understood the Pentagon and Congress more accurately than the average US citizen does: "All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations," bin Laden said.

As part of the "bleed-until-bankruptcy plan," bin Laden cited a British estimate that it cost al Qaeda about $500,000 to carry out the attacks of September 11, 2001, an amount that he said paled in comparison with the costs incurred by the United States.

"Every dollar of al Qaeda defeated a million dollars, by the permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs," he said. "As for the economic deficit, it has reached record astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars."

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/01/binladen.tape/index.html

First the USA wastes a trillion, then follows that with another two trillion, then when that doesn't work, another four trillion, and so on and on.

Since 9/11 there has been turnover in the leadership of Congress and the Pentagon, but it is not gotten any wiser and their goal still seems to be to spend more and more money on the military and never form a coherent strategy about anywhere in the world. I think bin Laden understood the USA's leadership and its mental handicaps. The leadership and the citizenship aren't all that far apart in their stubborn incomprehension of the world. If only they actually knew even half of what they image and claim to know, their lives would be going so much smoother than their lives really are.

"And it all shows that the real loser is you," Osama bin Laden said. "It is the American people and their economy."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:10 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND, we agree. I think hell just froze over.

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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM

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... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Is this a subtle threat?


No. Its about you acting like a paid social media operativ for Putin.

Quote:


It's about time we got that whole use of "traitor" and "treason" straight.



A severe flaw in the Constitution iz the extreemly weak loyalty requirements for The Prez. Being born here duz not garrantee loyalty. The little promis in the inauguration iz worthless with out a clearly defined penalty.

Trump iz working for Putin. Putinz interest iz to bring America down az many notchez az he can in any way possible wether it directly benefits him or not.

Wen Trump piks an assclown pollution proponent to run the EPA, Putin iz happy. 'Dirty America' will fizikly hurt us and our international reputation. 'Look at thoze filthy American pigz choking on their own fumez'.

Wen Trump puts a Bible thumper in charj uv education, Putin iz happy. He can look forward to America bekuming even stoopider in the future.

The media goez into overdrive wen a terrorist killz a dozen peepl sumwhere. Our military and intel haz been working on the radical Islam problem for 20 yirz. Trillionz uv dollarz spent all in the name uv security. How many Americanz will sicken and die wen the GoPs get their 'American Health Care Act' running? How many more uv us will get sick and die from increased pollution, unsafe food and medisin? A terrorist woud be elevated to Mohamed'z status if he accomplished 1/10 uv that!

Putin spendz pocket chanje (relativly) and gets direct up to the minit akses to our most secret secrets.

How iz Trump not a traitor? How iz this not treazon?

Assuming for just a moment that you three are not being paid by Putin, do you need to get kicked in the hed by a viziting dictator'z thugz outside the White House gates befor you wake up?



'Yes' to all of this Jo - well said. It is brilliant what Putin's is doing, and our over officious, ego driven, jerkwad "leeders" are to busy arguing with each other and thinking only of themselves to see it. Well, most them.

Btw - fwiw, you may already know this, etc: you will never convince Cigs of even the most obvious observation due to the fact that she's a hardcore, old school Soviet. And that sh@t never washes out - like a tattoo. You'll notice the relentless deflections dismissals and bold but sad fakery perpetuated in the name of All things Puttie. You'll be associated with vile acts you had nothing to do with, accused of saying things you never said, and blamed for things you never even had knowledge of. Over and over. Her soul was sold long ago. Logic, honesty, truth, these things mean very little.


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Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:16 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, we agree. I think hell just froze over.

We can probably agree on this observation: Osama bin Laden said "And it all shows that the real loser is you. It is the American people and their economy."

As for President Bush's Iraq policy, Bin Laden said, "the darkness of black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave priority to private interests over the public interests of America." I approve of the notion that Americans have a blurred vision of the world and lack insight into their own motivations.

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/01/binladen.tape/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:49 AM

6STRINGJOKER


I'm still not sure that Osama Bin Laden wasn't just an invention of Dick Cheney. He sure made Halliburton boatloads of cash. Not only did we never see Osama's body, but we never saw Osama and Scottie Pippen in the same room together:



I bet if you look real hard, you can find a picture in these threads that I made about 10 years ago remarking on that resemblance. Seems I'm not the only person who thought that.

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Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:52 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


GSTRING, Oh Wise One, I have a question for YOU that I doubt that you'll answer: You're unhappy with our politicians. Clearly, you must have a better plan in mind! So, what should our politicians DO, vis-a-vis Russia? Bomb Russia in Syria? Just go straight to bombing Russia itself?

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:32 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


JO -Thank you for your answer. Mostly, I agree, But now, a few caveats.

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Its about the purpose uv sivilization. If it duznt make life better for the individual to be a member, it iz worthless.
Better than what? A solitary life, scratching out a miserable existence in the wilds of the jungle, or downtown Detroit? That's a pretty low bar, almost ANY society can do that.

Also, I disagree to some extent on the focus towards the individual. I posted many thoughts on the relationship between the individual and society. Society has it's own requirements for survival, which at times requires individuals to cooperate and be productive. If you want the society to survive, you have to contribute something towards its maintenance and defense.

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A country'z goverment'z purpose iz to increase the level uv sivilization az hi az possible for az many uv it sitizenz az possible.
You keep referring to "civilization" but what I think you really mean is "comfortable lifestyle based on technology". There are reasons to think the goal of a comfortable, work-free lifestyle isn't GOOD for people, just as extreme individualism leads to social isolation and isn't good for people either. So if civilization is geared towards giving people what they want (or have been convinced they should want)- fun, freedom, a lot of toys, and no work - it may not be providing people with what they NEED - agency in their own lives, social connection, a feeling of higher purpose.

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If youv read my campane website, maybe the total meaning can be unclear, but thats wut its about - making America the best example uv sivilization in the world.
Ok

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I believ the basic system created by the founderz iz good, but needz sum serious work to fix orijinal flawz and to update it for todayz conditionz.
Lern from our mistakes. Lern from otherz mistakes. Lern from history.

The FF created a political system. But its the economic system that needs work. Political equality can't exist without economic equality.

I think we agree on many things.

So how does "being a good example" relate to our swath of destruction thru the MENA and our relations with Russia, China, and the remainder of the world?

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:12 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Jo, I'm still waiting for evidence.

What you posted so far is

"speculation" Monday, May 22, 2017 10:26 PM

trolling "Yep. Look who showz up. Muller shoud take note." Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:21 PM

MORE speculation "(Probably at wildly inflated prisez with a hidden kickback)" Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:45 PM

and ANOTHER heaping helping of speculation "maybe he haz such a damming load uv blackmail hanging over" which includes a link to an article about "suspicion" Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:43 PM

a multiple 'fail' post that contains
1) a claim attached to a figure you pulled out of your ass, not supported by your wiki link "guy who gets paid 10,000,000$"
2) red-baiting (a tactic of Joe McCarthy) Flynn
3) connecting the Koch brothers and Condoleezza Rice to Russia through Tillerson!
4) and claiming Prince has "something" to do with Russia ... Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:14 AM

MORE trolling "you acting like a paid social media operativ"; really weird commentary "severe flaw in the Constitution iz the extreemly weak loyalty requirements"; and outright fabrications "Trump iz working for Putin" Wednesday, May 24, 2017 2:33 PM

strange comments that you don't seem to apply uniformly (like to Saudi Arabia) "Appeazing dictatorz duznt work." Wednesday, May 24, 2017 2:51 PM

and dictats you don't take seriously enough to follow yourself "Lern from our mistakes" Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:14 PM

a link which supports none of your post and which says this "The people who described the contacts to Reuters said they had seen no evidence of wrongdoing or collusion between the campaign and Russia in the communications reviewed so far" Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:20 PM

more unsubstantiated claims Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:39 PM

AND ... more trolling "undeniabl proof that you are an idiot (most likely) or being paid to post" Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:19 AM



I went though your posts because you claimed this was going to be about evidence. And I haven't seen any. Trolling? Claims? Speculation? Innuendo? You got that well covered.

But where's the evidence?






Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:30 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Don't forget that he outright accused Trump of Treason. Bold move. Good for his candidacy if he is proven to be right about this... not so good if he isn't.

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Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:46 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:In other words, it's a subtle threat.


No. Just telling you how you appear.

The FSB election hacking program flooded the interweb with MILLIONZ uv posts, tweets, fasebooks, fake newz, etc agenst Hillary or for Trump, so oddz are good that anybody who iz doing the same iz part uv the operation.

You dont go to a punk rock consert with a 3 ft tall floresent pink mohawk and then expect anybody to believ you are not a fan.

Quote:


Jo, I'm going to tell you a story which I hope you'll take the time to read. It's a real-life story (mine) with strange parallels to today.

A long time ago, on a website far away ...



Interesting story. Sorry for you troublez.

I admit I wuz fooled by Bush. I didnt pay much attention to politics back then, but even tho I knew he wuz a dimwit, I wuz behind him about going into Afganistan.

About Iraq, not so much, but figured it woud be over in a few weeks, just like Dezert Storm. And I still think its not a bad thing to topple evil dictatorz. Its the follow up that we alwayz get rong!

The BIG lesson that I expected everybody to lern from the Bush yirz iz that we cant hav an idiot in the Oval Offis.

Even if he wuznt an actual clinical idiot, he wuz not smart enuf for the job, wich iz effectively the same az being an idiot.

Obviously that lesson haz not been lerned by enuf uv us. Trump iz an outrite idiot, straddling the border uv insanity. The perfect puppet for an evil genius.

A segjestion for you: If you dont want us to think you are a Putin operativ, at least admit hiz crimez and that he iz not interested in helping America.

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Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:05 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I learned that Osama bin Laden understood the Pentagon and Congress more accurately than the average US citizen does:



A chess grandmaster can beat any number uv mere masterz teamed up agenst him. IQ iz averajed in a group, not multiplied.

Collectively, America iz a dimwit. And wen you filter out the dimmer wunz and put them in charj, America iz effectively a moron.

But Osama, no matter how smart he wuz, made a huje mistake. Like a nerd poking a grizzly bear, smarts duznt alwayz win agenst power.


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Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:17 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
A segjestion for you: If you dont want us to think you are a Putin operativ, at least admit hiz crimez and that he iz not interested in helping America.



I'm perfectly okay with random strangers on the internet thinking that I'm a Putin operative because I don't agree with their Left Wing brainwashing.

All I got to do now is figure out how to get that big payday. Do you think Putin would pay in free Russian brides J0?

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Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:21 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
'Yes' to all of this Jo - well said. It is brilliant what Putin's is doing, and our over officious, ego driven, jerkwad "leeders" are to busy arguing with each other and thinking only of themselves to see it. Well, most them.



The Demz seem to be staying fairly quiet about it. If they put up a rukus proportional to the GoPs about Bengazi, they'd blow up the amps!
(6! post a 'blo xoz spekrz' yqtqb!)

I think their stratejy iz to not help the GoPs paint it az a partisan plot.
Also, let them get dragged down deep by trying to defend Trump.
(6! post 'dragd down bi xu ston' bi pink floed!)

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Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:26 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Jo, I'm still waiting for evidence.



Reread the openning post.

About ALL your 'objectionz', why do you think Trump lawyered up yesterday?

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