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What the hell, Joss ? Good grief.

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Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:08 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Seriously, what is wrong w/ Joss ? He continues acting like a colossal, mega a-hole, well after the election is over.

Hollywood Director Joss Whedon Sexualizes, Mocks Young Cancer Survivors Meeting with Paul Ryan

Hollywood director Joss Whedon faced heat on Twitter Thursday after he sexualized and mocked a meeting between Paul Ryan and a group of young cancer survivors.



Paul Ryan Verified account @SpeakerRyan 3h3 hours ago

Advocacy is not limited to adults. These Wisconsin teens shared some powerful stories with me about their fight against childhood cancer. pic.twitter.com/VJ0eQDXu7U

To which Joss tweeted...


Joss Whedon Verified account
@joss

Tonight on White House Wife Hunt, Donny makes host P. Ryan give 2 more contestants the "Not a 10" card.


Real big fucking man you are, Joss, Joking about young girls who SURVIVED CANCER.

What a fucking jackass. So obsessed w/ this ant-Trump b.s. he can't even muster enough dignity to simply ....fuck it.ALL you fucking Lefties are assholes.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU.

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Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:59 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Welcome to the New Left Auraptor.

Brought to you by the same brand of snowflake SJWs that would just as soon see you hang for even flirting with a girl. You evil white male.

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Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:45 PM

AURAPTOR

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White Male... isn't that exactly what Joss is ?

And these young ladies, who survived childhood cancer. Aren't they about the same age as Joss's precious Buffy and Dawn, and all those Scoobies and such which he first wrote a series about, that gave him his big career launch?

I'm just glad no one here or in Joss's life has personally known anyone diagnosed and or die from cancer.

Must be nice.


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:25 PM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Real big fucking man you are, Joss, Joking about young girls who SURVIVED CANCER.

What a fucking jackass. So obsessed w/ this ant-Trump b.s. he can't even muster enough dignity to simply ....fuck it.ALL you fucking Lefties are assholes.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU.


Joss has been in full psycho Leftist hate-spew mode for at least a decade, so I don't know why you are so surprised and angry about his reprehensible statements anymore.

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Friday, April 28, 2017 2:06 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Yeah, he's a white male, but that doesn't count anymore.

Fame got to him and now he's turned into a full fledged 3rd wave feminist white apologist douche that feels guilty about his success and says shit like this to make himself feel good about himself.

I will give him the benefit of the doubt here though and say that until I know otherwise he just saw the photo and said something stupid without realizing that the girls in the photo were cancer survivors. Whoops!

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Friday, April 28, 2017 8:28 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



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I will give him the benefit of the doubt here though and say that until I know otherwise he just saw the photo and said something stupid without realizing that the girls in the photo were cancer survivors. Whoops!


Why give him the benefit of a doubt ? He saw a photo of young girls and automatically went to a joke about rating them based on looks. Isn't that EXACTLY the embodiment of everything we're told by Joss and the Left we should NOT do ? Treat women and girls as objects ? Cancer or no, just because he thinks he's taking a shot at Donald ( Donny ) , he feels he can refer to these girls as " Not a 10 ". And what if they were fans of Buffy ? Or River and Firefly. Think they'll view those shows the same way knowing Joss sees them as " not a 10 " ? I thought we were suppose to see EVERY girl as a 10, because women are beautiful in so many more ways other than just appearance.

Guess not. Great lesson, Joss.

Dick.

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Friday, April 28, 2017 8:34 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Quote:

I will give him the benefit of the doubt here though and say that until I know otherwise he just saw the photo and said something stupid without realizing that the girls in the photo were cancer survivors. Whoops!


Why give him the benefit of a doubt ? He saw a photo of young girls and automatically went to a joke about rating them based on looks. Isn't that EXACTLY the embodiment of everything we're told by Joss and the Left we should NOT do ? Treat women and girls as objects ? Cancer or no, just because he thinks he's taking a shot at Donald ( Donny ) , he feels he can refer to these girls as " Not a 10 ". And what if they were fans of Buffy ? Or River and Firefly. Think they'll view those shows the same way knowing Joss sees them as " not a 10 " ? I thought we were suppose to see EVERY girl as a 10, because women are beautiful in so many more ways other than just appearance.

Guess not. Great lesson, Joss.

Dick.



Yeah - this morning an apology from JW on twitter:

"So I tweeted something that inadvertently offended everyone except the people I was trying to offend. I'm sorry. I'll be quiet for a bit."

Even not knowing who those women were it's just not funny on any level. He's suppose to always bring the funny - very disappointing in many ways. Punking people on twitter is pretty childish as well - I thought we all knew that?

#stayofftwitter

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Friday, April 28, 2017 8:37 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Joss replies to your concerns:

Joss Whedon @joss

So I tweeted something that inadvertently offended everyone except the people I was trying to offend. I'm sorry. I'll be quiet for a bit.

8:12 PM - 27 Apr 2017
https://twitter.com/joss/status/857794584662769664
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Why give him the benefit of a doubt ? . . . Great lesson, Joss. Dick.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, April 28, 2017 9:47 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


His main problem is that he is suffering from TDS. He views the world through the eyes of a deranged lunatic who is still pissed off at the election. I fully believe his work will suffer. Not from boycotting his movies, but rather in how he actually goes about doing his job. I am fully convinced , until shown otherwise , that he will interject such nonsense into his scripts.

Hollywood is full of divas, and Joss is just as big as one as any. He will not be ignored, nor will he allow his views to be set aside. He will be heard, and he will make you know what he thinks. He can't help himself.

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Friday, April 28, 2017 10:55 AM

DREAMTROVE


The new left is just another hate group. White males self hate to get shelter from the hate. They learn the code. What's ironic to me is that the evil oppressor sticker now doesn't just go to international financial oligarchs, it goes to entire races, including ones that were a victim of racism in some cases until the mid-20th c.

The Irish in the early 1700s in America held the same status as blacks, to the point that Jefferson had to make up a black ancestry for his Irish slavegirl Sally Hemmings when the law switched. Now, if you're proud to be Irish, they'll label you part of a hate group. All traditional irish symbols are now on the list of hate symbols next to the swastika.

This is madness. Hungarians until the early 1900s, Italians until c. WWII, and polish until very recently. Anyone remember the polish jokes of the 70s? and look what we've got here on the board: anti-Russian racism. Everywhere.

So, Jared Kushner, for example, to the new left, can simultaneously be a ruling elites, a white supremacist, a zionist overlord, and a russian spy. Alternatively? he's just a guy. A human like the rest of us.

And yes, the pro-cancer club. Oh dear. Joss has really lost it.

ETA: I search this story and dug on it. I'm turning in my Joss fanboi card for a refund.

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Friday, April 28, 2017 11:54 AM

6STRINGJOKER


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Quote:

I will give him the benefit of the doubt here though and say that until I know otherwise he just saw the photo and said something stupid without realizing that the girls in the photo were cancer survivors. Whoops!


Why give him the benefit of a doubt ? He saw a photo of young girls and automatically went to a joke about rating them based on looks. Isn't that EXACTLY the embodiment of everything we're told by Joss and the Left we should NOT do ? Treat women and girls as objects ? Cancer or no, just because he thinks he's taking a shot at Donald ( Donny ) , he feels he can refer to these girls as " Not a 10 ". And what if they were fans of Buffy ? Or River and Firefly. Think they'll view those shows the same way knowing Joss sees them as " not a 10 " ? I thought we were suppose to see EVERY girl as a 10, because women are beautiful in so many more ways other than just appearance.

Guess not. Great lesson, Joss.Dick.



I gave him the benefit of the doubt because in that situation I would give anybody the benefit of the doubt (about the girls being cancer survivors).

You're right about the rest though. Had that comment not been about cancer survivors there would have been a lot of laughing from a large section of the New Left because of it. There's a hierarchy of hate that "Trumps" their values and makes things okay in the right context. Had these women been standing next to Hillary and somebody said something like that they'd be misogynist monsters, but because it was a shot at conservatives it would not have had a bad reaction overall.

I see he's apologized for it. TRAP! Looks like he got caught. I guess if you're going to show your SJW hate in a tweet, you better do your research first.

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Friday, April 28, 2017 1:40 PM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Had that comment not been about cancer survivors there would have been a lot of laughing from a large section of the New Left because of it. There's a hierarchy of hate that "Trumps" their values and makes things okay in the right context. Had these women been standing next to Hillary and somebody said something like that they'd be misogynist monsters, but because it was a shot at conservatives it would not have had a bad reaction overall.


If that had been the case, I would have chalked it up to PAYBACK. Conservatives have a well deserved, much longer, much worse history relative to women's rights. That's what The Funny was suppose to be - "see how bad they treat women?" It's Joss remember? You may have missed (along with everyone else including Joss) what he was trying for and utterly failed to achieve. Comedy is hard!

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Friday, April 28, 2017 1:51 PM

6STRINGJOKER


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Originally posted by G:
If that had been the case, I would have chalked it up to PAYBACK. Conservatives have a well deserved, much longer, much worse history relative to women's rights. That's what The Funny was suppose to be - "see how bad they treat women?" It's Joss remember? You may have missed (along with everyone else including Joss) what he was trying for and utterly failed to achieve. Comedy is hard!



Comedy is hard, especially when the Regressive Left does everything in their power to stop everything from being funny. Joss said what he did because in his mind these girls were not a 10. He was able to say that and try to joke about it by saying "I didn't say it... it was Trump that would say it". Obviously there would have been no joke at all if the girls in the photo were swimsuit models. Joss just got burned here because he posted this without realizing the girls had cancer.

Had that not been the case, everybody on the Regressive Left would have gotten a good laugh out of it at the expense of these girls. It's okay to make fun of their looks because the fact that they would even be caught dead in a photo smiling with Paul Ryan makes them enemies of the SJW camp.

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Friday, April 28, 2017 2:47 PM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


What the fucks the matter with you? White males my ass. And I quote you "White males self hate to get shelter from the hate." What drugs are you consuming? What does this even mean, except that you are clueless.

As for Josh, he is effeminate himself. I'm not knocking him, just saying. Besides, we all know there is a far left, just as there is a far right. That's what makes the middle imperative. Many in theses threads are the problem. And what they post has little value.




Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
The new left is just another hate group. White males self hate to get shelter from the hate. They learn the code. What's ironic to me is that the evil oppressor sticker now doesn't just go to international financial oligarchs, it goes to entire races, including ones that were a victim of racism in some cases until the mid-20th c.

The Irish in the early 1700s in America held the same status as blacks, to the point that Jefferson had to make up a black ancestry for his Irish slavegirl Sally Hemmings when the law switched. Now, if you're proud to be Irish, they'll label you part of a hate group. All traditional irish symbols are now on the list of hate symbols next to the swastika.

This is madness. Hungarians until the early 1900s, Italians until c. WWII, and polish until very recently. Anyone remember the polish jokes of the 70s? and look what we've got here on the board: anti-Russian racism. Everywhere.

So, Jared Kushner, for example, to the new left, can simultaneously be a ruling elites, a white supremacist, a zionist overlord, and a russian spy. Alternatively? he's just a guy. A human like the rest of us.

And yes, the pro-cancer club. Oh dear. Joss has really lost it.

ETA: I search this story and dug on it. I'm turning in my Joss fanboi card for a refund.







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Friday, April 28, 2017 3:42 PM

6STRINGJOKER


lol....

Look at T pretending he's a centrist again.

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Friday, April 28, 2017 5:03 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Joss, to his credit, does have a good eye on 'talent', when it comes to beautiful women. But as his darker side has shown, it's dawned on me that all that stuff from his earlier shows, the praising of grrl power, the strength of femininity , the value of sisterhood, ALL of it is bunk as far as he's concerned. It's a huge con, a marketing gimmick he's used for nearly 20 years, to grab ratings and attract a fandom of loyal followers.

He doesn't believe it himself one damn bit. He's been using women as his props, nothing else.

Truth is, he and Trump view women VERY similarly. He's for them, he cares about them, as long as they're smokin' hot, and can make him fists full of cash.

Snatch'm by the pussy, Joss !!! Yeah!!

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Friday, April 28, 2017 8:05 PM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Joss, to his credit, does have a good eye on 'talent', when it comes to beautiful women. But as his darker side has shown, it's dawned on me that all that stuff from his earlier shows, the praising of grrl power, the strength of femininity , the value of sisterhood, ALL of it is bunk as far as he's concerned. It's a huge con, a marketing gimmick he's used for nearly 20 years, to grab ratings and attract a fandom of loyal followers.

He doesn't believe it himself one damn bit. He's been using women as his props, nothing else.

Truth is, he and Trump view women VERY similarly. He's for them, he cares about them, as long as they're smokin' hot, and can make him fists full of cash.

Snatch'm by the pussy, Joss !!! Yeah!!



Your hatred of the far left is duly noted. I don't think Joss would care much though despite how intensely you feel about it.






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Friday, April 28, 2017 8:32 PM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


InfoWars founder Alex Jones loses primary custody of children after bitter legal battle with ex-wife

In closing arguments, Kelly Jones’ attorney, Robert Hoffman, told jurors the conservative broadcaster was a “cult leader” who was turning the children — ages 9, 12, and 14 — against their mother.

He also described his client’s marriage as “emotionally, sexually, and physically abusive,” according to the newspaper.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/infowars-founder-alex-jones-l
oses-primary-custody-children-article-1.3112360



Key words here are "cult leader"




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Friday, April 28, 2017 9:12 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Has absolutely nothing to do with Joss. Thanks for the info.

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Friday, April 28, 2017 11:58 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Joss, to his credit, does have a good eye on 'talent', when it comes to beautiful women. But as his darker side has shown, it's dawned on me that all that stuff from his earlier shows, the praising of grrl power, the strength of femininity , the value of sisterhood, ALL of it is bunk as far as he's concerned. It's a huge con, a marketing gimmick he's used for nearly 20 years, to grab ratings and attract a fandom of loyal followers.

He doesn't believe it himself one damn bit. He's been using women as his props, nothing else.

Truth is, he and Trump view women VERY similarly. He's for them, he cares about them, as long as they're smokin' hot, and can make him fists full of cash.

Snatch'm by the pussy, Joss !!! Yeah!!



Your hatred of the far left is duly noted. I don't think Joss would care much though despite how intensely you feel about it.




.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen


You're missing the point.

Go back to the top & try again

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Saturday, April 29, 2017 6:04 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


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Joss Whedon Verified account
@joss
Tonight on White House Wife Hunt, Donny makes host P. Ryan give 2 more contestants the "Not a 10" card.

Good grief is right.

As an aside - the big plot-based stumbling-blocks for me in Serenity were

1) "If you tell the people, they will rise up against the overlords." Joss himself has said that The Alliance is the USA. Well, "the people" have gotten "the signal" about "the Alliance" and there was a big yawn when there wasn't outright hostility. So guess what? You CAN stop the signal! Somewhere between the eardrum and the brain! Take it from there ...

2) The other one is psychological, and that if if you can identify the source of a problem you will be immediately cured.



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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Saturday, April 29, 2017 2:08 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Joss Whedon Verified account
@joss
Tonight on White House Wife Hunt, Donny makes host P. Ryan give 2 more contestants the "Not a 10" card.

What went so terribly wrong with a man who makes his living with WORDS that he tweeted that?





Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Saturday, April 29, 2017 2:15 PM

6STRINGJOKER


He thought he was playing "Aim to Misbehave" and that all of his fans were left wing ideologues like T that were in on the joke. It would have gotten a neutral to positive reaction overall if they hadn't been cancer survivors.

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Saturday, April 29, 2017 4:51 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Joss Whedon Verified account
@joss
Tonight on White House Wife Hunt, Donny makes host P. Ryan give 2 more contestants the "Not a 10" card.

What went so terribly wrong with a man who makes his living with WORDS that he tweeted that?



As has been stated, he's been going at it for a while. Not the first time he's made a derogatory comment at a woman w/ the intent to insult Trump.



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Saturday, April 29, 2017 5:48 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
P. Ryan tweeted and added his own juvenile, thoughtless words to it , thus making fun of these young girls.

Not a problem for you though, it seems.




I might be wrong here, but I dont' think 1kiki meant what you think. I think 1kiki was pondering out loud "what the hell went so wrong in Joss's mind that somebody who has created so many awesome stories we all enjoy could be so crass with his words?"

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I read it.

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Saturday, April 29, 2017 6:03 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Joss Whedon Verified account
@joss
Tonight on White House Wife Hunt, Donny makes host P. Ryan give 2 more contestants the "Not a 10" card.

What went so terribly wrong with a man who makes his living with WORDS that he tweeted that?


He's been on tilt for a while. He posted hate against before, attacking nicole kidman, trump and conservatives, he's just wallowing in politically left circle hate and pouring out against anyone on the right.

Also, he made a buffy porn film in 2012? I think he kink ran over his feminism, internal contradications and sloppiness also play: he probably didn't read the tweet. A lot of the left bought into Hillary's re-direction of the Jeffrey Eptein story from Bill Clinton to pretend it was about Donald Trump, and then extend that idea forward. Mass idiocy with a complete lack of couth or class. The new left is like Squeaky Fromme.

Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
What the fucks the matter with you? White males my ass. And I quote you "White males self hate to get shelter from the hate." What drugs are you consuming? What does this even mean, except that you are clueless.

As for Josh, he is effeminate himself. I'm not knocking him, just saying. Besides, we all know there is a far left, just as there is a far right. That's what makes the middle imperative. Many in theses threads are the problem. And what they post has little value.



Yep, you posted that.


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Saturday, April 29, 2017 6:27 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


6String - Yep, you're right. I'll edit as needed.

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Saturday, April 29, 2017 7:52 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I might be wrong here, but I dont' think 1kiki meant what you think. I think 1kiki was pondering out loud "what the hell went so wrong in Joss's mind that somebody who has created so many awesome stories we all enjoy could be so crass with his words?"

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I read it.

Yes, that.





Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Saturday, April 29, 2017 7:58 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Glad I could clear that up for you guys :)

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Saturday, April 29, 2017 8:05 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Glad I could clear that up for you guys :)



Ditto. Ya did well.

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Saturday, April 29, 2017 10:27 PM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

Glad I could clear that up for you guys :)





Oy, such a wonderful man!

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Saturday, April 29, 2017 10:39 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

Glad I could clear that up for you guys :)





Oy, such a wonderful man!



Wicked pullover man.


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Sunday, April 30, 2017 3:33 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Seriously, what is wrong w/ Joss ? He continues acting like a colossal, mega a-hole, well after the election is over.

Hollywood Director Joss Whedon Sexualizes, Mocks Young Cancer Survivors Meeting with Paul Ryan

Hollywood director Joss Whedon faced heat on Twitter Thursday after he sexualized and mocked a meeting between Paul Ryan and a group of young cancer survivors.



Quote:


Paul Ryan Verified account @SpeakerRyan 3h3 hours ago

Advocacy is not limited to adults. These Wisconsin teens shared some powerful stories with me about their fight against childhood cancer. pic.twitter.com/VJ0eQDXu7U

To which Joss tweeted...


Joss Whedon Verified account
@joss

Tonight on White House Wife Hunt, Donny makes host P. Ryan give 2 more contestants the "Not a 10" card.


Real big fucking man you are, Joss, Joking about young girls who SURVIVED CANCER.

What a fucking jackass. So obsessed w/ this ant-Trump b.s. he can't even muster enough dignity to simply ....fuck it.ALL you fucking Lefties are assholes.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU.


How does this mesh with EQUALITY NOW? Joss should be ashamed. And wasn't his supposed support of that charity in the name of his mom? How disgusting.

Has it come that Equality Now has become as disreputable and despicable as Emily's List (which supports, funds, campaigns for OPPONENTS of women running for Public Office), or are they just suffering the baggage of the likes of Joss?

The War On Women is still in full attack mode from the women-hating Lefties.

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Sunday, April 30, 2017 3:39 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Yeah, he's a white male, but that doesn't count anymore.

Fame got to him and now he's turned into a full fledged 3rd wave feminist white apologist douche that feels guilty about his success and says shit like this to make himself feel good about himself.

I will give him the benefit of the doubt here though and say that until I know otherwise he just saw the photo and said something stupid without realizing that the girls in the photo were cancer survivors. Whoops!


I'm not familiar with how these twatter accounts work, but didn't Joss need to do something like "retwat with quote" or whatever, using the original post from P.Ryan to make his own rude post? If so, what are you saying is his excuse - he cannot understand English, or even American Language? He is a member of the scriptwriters guild - he should learn to read already!!!

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Sunday, April 30, 2017 6:07 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

The War On Women is still in full attack mode from the women-hating Lefties.



As it has been for some time. Extreme Left, uber feminazis only. All others are 'haters'.

And as for the twitter stuff, all Joss needed to do was copy the original photo, post it in his twitter feed/ with his own comments below. And to be fair , one really needs to be scanning the accounts of Trump, Ryan, et al to keep up on stuff like this. In other words, he's really got to be LOOKING for something to bitch and moan about in the first place. Ryan meeting survivors of childhood cancer ...gotta go pretty far to screw that one up, Joss.

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Thursday, May 4, 2017 12:23 PM

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Joss was never particularly pro-women. He was okay considering a lot of alternatives and at least let the women in his stories do something, but that's a pretty low bar. Dollhouse was just gross in a lot of ways. He's been seeming more and more misogynistic in recent years, one of the reasons I've kinda turned off on firefly. The whole thing about companions and how he had the focus character act towards the concept with all the judgment and slut shaming was a warning sign for how low he can sink. I'll take that lesson I learned with me - if you hear someone talk that way about someone, they can talk that way about anyone.

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Thursday, May 4, 2017 12:32 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Joss, to his credit, does have a good eye on 'talent', when it comes to beautiful women. But as his darker side has shown, it's dawned on me that all that stuff from his earlier shows, the praising of grrl power, the strength of femininity , the value of sisterhood, ALL of it is bunk as far as he's concerned. It's a huge con, a marketing gimmick he's used for nearly 20 years, to grab ratings and attract a fandom of loyal followers.

He doesn't believe it himself one damn bit. He's been using women as his props, nothing else.

Truth is, he and Trump view women VERY similarly. He's for them, he cares about them, as long as they're smokin' hot, and can make him fists full of cash.

Snatch'm by the pussy, Joss !!! Yeah!!



Yep.

Going back and watching some of the scenes where he did sex/bathing scenes with the women or made them cry on camera feels pretty icky now. And then they joke about how they shot the scene with Morena in the pilot three times, hahaha how funnyyyy that was. I hear that was the first scene she filmed on set and she'd never done nudes before. -_- Then there's how all his action girls seem to get punched by their love interests, and we're still supposed to cheer for the relationship. I've been feeling like this for a few years now.

He doesn't really respect women.

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Thursday, May 4, 2017 12:54 PM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Joss, to his credit, does have a good eye on 'talent', when it comes to beautiful women. But as his darker side has shown, it's dawned on me that all that stuff from his earlier shows, the praising of grrl power, the strength of femininity , the value of sisterhood, ALL of it is bunk as far as he's concerned. It's a huge con, a marketing gimmick he's used for nearly 20 years, to grab ratings and attract a fandom of loyal followers.

He doesn't believe it himself one damn bit. He's been using women as his props, nothing else.

Truth is, he and Trump view women VERY similarly. He's for them, he cares about them, as long as they're smokin' hot, and can make him fists full of cash.

Snatch'm by the pussy, Joss !!! Yeah!!



Yep.

Going back and watching some of the scenes where he did sex/bathing scenes with the women or made them cry on camera feels pretty icky now. And then they joke about how they shot the scene with Morena in the pilot three times, hahaha how funnyyyy that was. I hear that was the first scene she filmed on set and she'd never done nudes before. -_- Then there's how all his action girls seem to get punched by their love interests, and we're still supposed to cheer for the relationship. I've been feeling like this for a few years now.

He doesn't really respect women.



He's a mixed up bag of stuff.
I remember being very uncomfortable from the first viewing of Firefly with his use of rape. First, with Reavers, "rape to death" - who even thinks of that?!? And then with threats to Kaylee by Jubal. I was surprised no one else mentioned it.
But then - whether he's off or not - he's been a huge supporter of Equality Now.
No, they're not mutually exclusive, nor does one excuse the other, just noting.

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Thursday, May 4, 2017 1:42 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

I remember being very uncomfortable from the first viewing of Firefly with his use of rape. First, with Reavers, "rape to death" - who even thinks of that?!? And then with threats to Kaylee by Jubal. I was surprised no one else mentioned it.


Yeeeaaahh... More and more I have some uneasy questions.

At the time we were like, well hey at least his woman characters are empowered! But then it's more that it all ended up becoming some fetish thing we were all part of. We dared to enter Joss Whedon's magical realm of hot ass kicking girls, and it wasn't so much about empowerment or three dimensional characters, but he told us it was, so we let some stuff slide.

I started side eyeing Whedon and stopped liking him around the time he made his comments about Nicole Kidman. Feels like his equality activism has always kind been more of a thin veneer, that also happened to serve his interests.

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Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:46 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Joss was never particularly pro-women. He was okay considering a lot of alternatives and at least let the women in his stories do something, but that's a pretty low bar. Dollhouse was just gross in a lot of ways. He's been seeming more and more misogynistic in recent years, one of the reasons I've kinda turned off on firefly. The whole thing about companions and how he had the focus character act towards the concept with all the judgment and slut shaming was a warning sign for how low he can sink. I'll take that lesson I learned with me - if you hear someone talk that way about someone, they can talk that way about anyone.



Where I feel duped is how Joss was willing to show both sides of certain issues.

Mal - You're a whore
Inara - I'm a companion. I CHOOSE who to have sex for money with. That makes me special.

Mal's " quaint " notions of chivalry and respecting the virtue of women is ' old fashion ', and a shadow of views of Earth-that-was.


The scene where Rance forces Chari on her knees, reminding her of her rightful place... yeah, no misogynism there. See, I thought it was just him showing how wrong most men were, so as to contrast the good in Mal, and a few others. Pretty clear he's kinda getting off on it, and not for the altruistic, for-the-greater-good reasons.

Quote:

I started side eyeing Whedon and stopped liking him around the time he made his comments about Nicole Kidman. Feels like his equality activism has always kind been more of a thin veneer, that also happened to serve his interests.


Nicole Kidman, calling Ivanka a Pekingese, and then mocking young ladies who survived cancer...


Joss is Master no longer.

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Friday, May 5, 2017 7:24 AM

6STRINGJOKER


I don't agree with the political posturing by celebrity's like Joss, but I also don't agree with you guys attacking his art now. I've never met a creative person in my life that didn't have their share of demons. What a boring world we would live in if the only art we experienced was of the perfect SJW variety...

Trite... boring... banal...

This is why people like Joss shouldn't do twitter or Facebook. Hell... it's why I think nobody should do any of it. How many friends and family members do you know that still aren't talking to each other after the election? Maybe you yourself aren't talking to somebody because of online bullshit?


Firefly is, was, and forever will be one of the greatest TV shows ever made. I'm not saying that it shouldn't be analyzed. I'm just saying that if you're going to do it, it shouldn't be with such a negative attitude based off of a couple of stupid uber-libtard tweets he made. If you're looking for misogyny, you're going to find misogyny.


It's the dark moments like some of the ones mentioned here that gave the show the depth that it had. Strip out all of the bad and all you're left with is a Disney movie. If I want that, I'll go watch Frozen for the 20th time with my niece.

Lighten up everybody.


To Joss... get the hell off twitter and go back to what you do best. Nobody gives a shit about your political opinions.

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Monday, May 15, 2017 9:29 AM

AURAPTOR

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Apparently Joss as just admitted to killing his mom, 25 years ago, so she'd not have to endure the oppressive President we have today.

Quote:


Joss Whedon? Verified account
@joss


Today I gratefully give my mother the gift of having been dead for 25 years and not having to see what a tub of fuckery our country's become




He gave his mom the gift of having been dead ??? Exactly how did he give that gift ? Is he saying he'd rather she be dead, to not live in such times, than to have her still alive today ?

Really?

There were happier folks suffering in concentration camps than Joss is today. Free, multi-millionaire, doing work he supposedly loves, and is good at, but damn...he's glad ol mom isn't here to see days like THESE !!!

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Monday, May 15, 2017 9:42 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Apparently Joss has just admitted to killing his mom,

Why didn’t you cover this Joss retweet? Was it because you didn’t get the joke about Field of Dreams?
Quote:

If you try to do a coup against a democracy Henry Kissinger appears out of a cornfield like a baseball loving ghost
https://twitter.com/MarkAgee/status/862337469227741184


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 15, 2017 9:50 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Apparently Joss has just admitted to killing his mom,

Why didn’t you cover this Joss retweet? Was it because you didn’t get the joke about Field of Dreams?



What the hell are you even talking about ? I commented on what Joss tweeted, about his dead mother, on Mother's Day.

Field of Dreams ? Henry Kissenger ? Come back.. you're way off the trail.

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Monday, May 15, 2017 10:10 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Apparently Joss has just admitted to killing his mom,

Why didn’t you cover this Joss retweet? Was it because you didn’t get the joke about Field of Dreams?



What the hell are you even talking about ? I commented on what Joss tweeted, about his dead mother, on Mother's Day.

Field of Dreams ? Henry Kissenger ? Come back.. you're way off the trail.

You misspelled Kissinger so it's no surprise you failed to remember bigger and more obvious things about him -- that Kissinger was famous for destroying democracies around the world when he was teamed with Nixon and now he's Trump's best buddy.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 15, 2017 11:12 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:You misspelled Kissinger so it's no surprise you failed to remember bigger and more obvious things about him -- that Kissinger was famous for destroying democracies around the world when he was teamed with Nixon and now he's Trump's best buddy.





And that has what to do w/ Joss GIFTING his mother death, retroactively, 25 years after the fact ???

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Monday, May 15, 2017 12:34 PM

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Monday, May 15, 2017 2:42 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Jesus Christ Joss..... Obviously you don't ever come to fireflyfans lol....

I tried to have your back bro, and I effectively put this post to rest, but killing your mom 25 years ago on Mother's Day? WTF is wrong with you man?




And, lol, in swoops SJW lunatic second to do some deflecting as usual. No big surprise there, huh guys and gals?

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Monday, May 15, 2017 9:57 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Anybody have details on the Nicole Kidman comments?

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Monday, May 15, 2017 10:00 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:You misspelled Kissinger so it's no surprise you failed to remember bigger and more obvious things about him -- that Kissinger was famous for destroying democracies around the world when he was teamed with Nixon and now he's Trump's best buddy.





And that has what to do w/ Joss GIFTING his mother death, retroactively, 25 years after the fact ???


And Field of Dreams?

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