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Brexit is official: Article 50 is invoked.

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Sunday, December 15, 2019 4:25 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


the MAPS are what really spells out the changes

It seems to have been PREDICTABLE

and forseen in our predictions threads although some people also posted stupid predictions and conspiracy in those threads

Labour < -- British spelling or the Labour party would have normally picked up votes and support in Middle Class, Lower Wage areas of England, people who traditionally supported Workers Rights, Unions I suppose in a ways the traditional Labour could have been compared to Libertarians, the Democrats, Liberal Democracy ideas and the left politics of N.America

All of the Left support, all of that Labour vote acorss England has started to vanish

The Scots are also strong, maybe its rooted in blood and history and I would not be shocked to see more Scottish break away politics and Scottish nationalism

Northern Ireland politics looks to be a little of the same with some new changes

Welsh its a weird mix of indie, maybe green, the Welsh nationalists seemd to have done weak, a little of both Labour and Conservative in Wales

The Brexit party some of which would have been once UKIP. this party seems to have collected no votes, ZERO

a sea of leftwing red changes to a sea of conservative blue



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/13/world/europe/uk-general
-election-results.html


,
http://googlemapsmania.blogspot.com/2019/12/it-was-brexit-wot-done-it.
html

,
https://twitter.com/DarrenSelkus/status/1205511992867463168

England, Scotland, Welsh the British people have a kind of strange voting system like the French and others do, you do not run three or four laps, you sprit very fast and the first out wins, they use a First
past the post British voting system, explained simply it would mean if three parties ran one of them could collect say 35% and be declared a winner, this system while giving people the right to vote can also lead to unpopular minority governments in Europe and Britain and other countries, hung parliments and "coalition" formed to make a government. In these kinds of votes you will have winners, losers, people who cheer and people who booo and sneer some person they did not want, however Boris won strong.


I also seen a bunch fo other circus joke clown parties, Lord Buckethead, the BNP Fascists, the English Feminists, Monster Raving Loony some crazy old dude in colorful clothes carrying a cat around and the Church of the Militant Elvis I dont think they got many votes


Boris Johnson will be returning to power a bigger majority, his message was clear or clearer and that's maybe how he got votes. The left lost and there will be some leftwings who still do not accept him or the Conservative 'Tories'. Maybe Boris Johnson's majority could mean better things for the British and more power to deal with Europe the EU and for Brexit?



Effect of Brexit on Gibraltar, a rock on the South of Spain and other overseas territory?

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Wednesday, December 1, 2021 12:00 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Macron sensationally calls Boris Johnson "a clown" as Britain described as "CIRCUS"

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1529787/emmanuel-macron-boris-
johnson-clown-eu-latest-news

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Saturday, May 7, 2022 4:12 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Stormont: Northern Ireland's election - a game of two halves in Belfast

https://www.iwradio.co.uk/news/sky-news/stormont-northern-irelands-ele
ction-a-game-of-two-halves-in-belfast
/

London and UK local election 2022 results LIVE: Boris Johnson under pressure while ‘legacy of Brexit’ bites in Northern Ireland

https://uk.style.yahoo.com/london-uk-local-election-results-055503910.
html


Elections live: Tories lose nearly 500 seats; Lib Dem MP says partygate 'does really resonate'; Starmer hails 'turning point'
https://news.sky.com/story/local-elections-live-news-labour-conservati
ves-boris-johnson-keir-starmer-politics-latest-12593360?postid=3847936


Britain to reopen embassy in Kyiv
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/britain-to-reopen-embassy-i
n-kyiv-41577155.html


Sturgeon's independence dream faltering as SNP fail to capitalise on Tory election woes
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1606966/nicola-sturgeon-indepe
ndence-referendum-snp-news-scotland-uk-ian-blackford?fr=operanews


Sturgeon hails ‘resounding victory’ for SNP in Scotland’s council elections
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/snp-nicola-sturgeon-scotland-lib
-dems-boris-johnson-b2073395.html


Welsh election results 2022: Tories' worst fears confirmed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-61354456

Temple and Farringdon Together Corp owned some votes before the British election, they did their own separate thing
Mandu Reid a mix of Black Malawi and White British ran with her own feminism old Londonium party, the Women's Equality Party (WEP) a feminist political party, Sandra Birgitte Toksvig a Danish-British author, comedian, politician, tv presenter co-founded the Women's Equality Party in 2015.

City of London Corporation ignored all the British Subject of the Queen and their own separate internal election took place on 24 March 2022

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Saturday, May 7, 2022 5:09 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Another stupid idea based on stupid reasoning. Now more than either Europe would benefit from being united. Bloody Murdoch is a curse on democracy.

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Thursday, December 29, 2022 9:32 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Government refuses to publish economic benefits estimate of latest Brexit trade deal

Department for International Trade says releasing an estimate isn’t appropriate

https://web.archive.org/web/20221228160906/https://www.independent.co.
uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-trade-deal-benefits-israel-b2245807.html


There is no Easter Bunny,
there is no Tooth Fairy,
and there are no Brexit Benefits.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, December 29, 2022 12:31 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Originally posted by MAGONSDAUGHTER:
Another stupid idea based on stupid reasoning. Now more than either Europe would benefit from being united. Bloody Murdoch is a curse on democracy.

How?

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Thursday, December 29, 2022 12:41 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Government refuses to publish economic benefits estimate of latest Brexit trade deal

Department for International Trade says releasing an estimate isn’t appropriate

https://web.archive.org/web/20221228160906/https://www.independent.co.
uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-trade-deal-benefits-israel-b2245807.html


There is no Easter Bunny,
there is no Tooth Fairy,
and there are no Brexit Benefits.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

One of the things that Brits are bemoaning is the opportunities that BoJo pissed away, thanks to mismanagement and political - economic stupidity. BoJo, they say, should have been busy making deals around the world ... with China, with India, with Russia, Indonesia, with nations in S America nd any natin they could be trading with.

Instead (and knowing that their N Sea oil is already depleted) they shut down for Covid, and played pointman for USA's "anti-China, destroy Russia with sanctions and warfare" politics. Which led to the highest energy prices and worst economic peformance since recodkeepng began. Nothing to do with Brexit, just sheer stupidity and/or cowardice from BoJo, Truss, and Sunak, who have shown NO political independence from the USA. Or care for Britain's ACTUAL interests.

Really, really stupid. Just like Germany.

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Pity would be no more,
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Thursday, December 29, 2022 1:07 PM

K2PO


12 years of Conservative government have turned the UK from a well-run country into a dysfunctional mess. Some of the reasons why, in chronological order:

1) Austerity after the financial crash - UK was an international poster child for this policy. It's been shown to be self-defeating; our finances are in a worse state now than they would've been without it.
2) Brexit - pure, unadulterated economic self-harm. The value of the £ plummeted immediately following the vote and has only gone down further. Brexit has also consumed all energies of government, so managing this monstrous project has distracted the country from all other problems that need attention
3) Terrible PMs - another gift of Brexit. Any prime minister of the UK now needs to be stupid enough to believe in the cause of Brexit, or charlatan enough to pretend to. Either way, it guarantees that you are only ever going to get terrible prime ministers.

We can also talk about the economic shocks of the pandemic and the war in Ukraine of course - but these are the same economic headwinds all European countries have had to deal with and they are all faring much better.

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Monday, January 2, 2023 9:11 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


“Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way.”

As a new political year begins, those nine words seem more apposite than ever, and they snugly fit one defining fact of our national predicament: that the wreckage of Brexit is all around us but our politicians will still not acknowledge it. The evidence now encompasses reduced trade, diminished investment and the fact that the UK has been the only major economy not to have returned to its pre-pandemic size. Brexit has resulted in a hit to tax revenues estimated at an annual £40bn – enough to have prevented 75% of the spending cuts and tax rises that were announced in November.

Meanwhile, amid impossible passport queues and howls of pain from businesses now tied up in red tape, stories that symbolise the folly of our exit from the EU seem to arrive at least one a week. Just before Christmas, for instance, it was reported that the Metropolitan police would now be buying armoured ministerial cars from the German manufacturer Audi because no UK firm was “able to meet the requirements of the tender”. Here was more proof of the supply-chain problems that are afflicting British producers, and a malaise that has caused annual UK car production to fall by more than half since 2016.

The government responds to such news with its usual ludicrous evasions
: “I don’t deny there are costs to a decision like Brexit,” said Jeremy Hunt in November, “but there are also opportunities, and you have to see it in the round.” Meanwhile, even now, Tory zealots cling to the belief that life outside the EU could still deliver all the promised prosperity and general magic, if only ministers would try harder.

More at https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/01/wreckage-of-brex
it-politicians-denial


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, January 2, 2023 9:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


LOL

Fuck the Guardian. Liars.

Leftists worldwide did this to us. They own the 2020s and the hell they brought onto everyone.

They will be put out to pasture for good.

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Tuesday, January 31, 2023 11:08 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


UK economy only G7 nation to shrink in 2023 - IMF

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64452995

Sunak under fire for silence on costs of Brexit to UK three years after leaving EU

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-economy-harm-britain-t
hree-years-cost-rishi-sunak-eu-b1056763.html?amp

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Tuesday, January 31, 2023 12:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
UK economy only G7 nation to shrink in 2023 - IMF

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64452995

Sunak under fire for silence on costs of Brexit to UK three years after leaving EU

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-economy-harm-britain-t
hree-years-cost-rishi-sunak-eu-b1056763.html?amp



That's some epic-level cherrypicking right there.

LOL

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Friday, May 19, 2023 5:40 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Credit where credit is due: Nigel Farage helped craft the Conservative win.

I have to say that Farage is an extremely intelligent and focused person who keeps his eyes on the prize (Brexit) and not on his party. The decision to pull candidates from so many Conservative-dominated districts must have been a very difficult one and earned him a lot of criticism from within his own party, but was ultimately the best course of action in terms of aiming towards Brexit.


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The Brexit party folded, but make no mistake: Farage won it for Johnson
Darren Loucaides

Whatever Nigel Farage does next, his decision to stand aside against 317 Tories and target Labour leavers was monumental

Last modified on Fri 13 Dec 2019 10.10 EST

Until 11 November, many had assumed that Nigel Farage’s Brexit party was revving up for a general election. But that morning, Farage told an audience of supporters and journalists in Hartlepool that his Brexit party would be standing down in 317 Conservative-held seats to avoid splitting the leave vote. The audience was stunned; there was muted applause after he finished.

This election will be remembered as a resounding, crushing victory for Boris Johnson’s Conservatives. Just as has happened countless times before, Farage will be written off and ridiculed for his party not winning a single seat. But that morning of 11 November was the single most important moment of the campaign. Farage won it for Johnson.

The decision to stand down against the Tories was not an easy one. According to Ed Jankowski, who was the Brexit party’s digital strategist until the middle of November before resigning, Farage was for a long time eager to stand in every seat and not stand down – as he was being pressured to do by his erstwhile Leave.EU ally Arron Banks. Farage instead kept pushing a leave alliance that the Tories were never likely to officially agree to. But as the Brexit party started to flag in the polls, Farage lost his nerve and gave in to those not wanting to challenge Conservative seats.

In Farage’s speech, and in the weeks following, he pledged to scoop up the leave vote in Labour heartlands and places people were unlikely to ever vote Tory. As for Jankowski, he told me that he pushed hard to get a detailed data set of Labour leavers. If he had stayed on, Jankowski says he would have pushed for the Brexit party to hone its digital content so that it made a strong emotional appeal to those voters.

Instead of the sophisticated digital campaign Jankowski envisaged, the wheels seemed to come off the Brexit party campaign. Farage’s close ally Alexandra Phillips, who used to be his head of media at Ukip, publicly criticised the decision to stand down, saying she felt “disenfranchised” for not being able to vote Brexit party in her own Conservative-held constituency. Farage and the party chairman, Richard Tice, are also rumoured to have fallen out over strategy, with Farage no longer showing up in the seat Tice stood in Hartlepool.

Farage spent the rest of the campaign travelling predominantly to Labour leave seats, albeit to greatly diminished crowds compared to the big rallies seen earlier in the year. But while the shine had gone from the Brexit party, and it ended up winning no seats, its campaign has had a major impact on the election.

One of the early results of the election night, a Labour hold in Sunderland Central by 2,964 votes, was striking for the swing. Labour was down 13.4%, Conservatives up slightly by 2%, while the Brexit party had a swing of 11.6% from a standing start. When the first 10 seats were in, in mostly northern and Midlands seats, there was nearly a 10% drop for Labour, while the Conservatives were only up 2.1% and the Brexit party was scooping up a 6% swing.

In some places the Conservatives gained seats from Labour on modest swings, while the Brexit party got swings of more than 10%. In Don Valley, Caroline Flint’s 2017 majority of 5,169 appears to have been swallowed up by the Brexit party – which won 6,247 votes as the Tories took the seat. A similar dynamic appears to have taken place in Tony Blair’s former seat of Sedgefield.

Farage, whatever you think of him, was right.
Many Labour leavers, who couldn’t bring themselves to vote Tory, did vote for the Brexit party. This wasn’t the case everywhere. In the much-watched seat of Workington, the Brexit party won little more than 1,749 votes to the Conservatives’ 20,488.

It’s not clear what happens to the Brexit party now, with a Conservative majority set to secure an exit from the EU. Farage has already registered the name of the Reform party. As this general election campaign wore on, Farage increasingly focused on radical reform – more direct democracy, scrapping of the House of Lords, a reformed electoral system. When I spoke to the Brexit party’s Claire Fox in October, she saw Brexit as the gateway to a kind of bloodless revolution for British democratic institutions. Fox is part of a core of former Revolutionary Communist party figures who have flocked to the Brexit party and remained loyal to Farage, who ended up convening around Spiked, the rightwing media outlet.

With Brexit a done deal, Farage himself is rumoured to be heading for the US to cash in via the lucrative speaker circuit. Farage basically admitted to Andrew Neil on election night that he would be giving stump speeches for Trump on the campaign trail for the US presidential election 2020.

Wherever he ends up, and whatever happens to the Brexit party now, this election is the culmination of a long campaign to redraw the map of British politics, starting with Farage forcing David Cameron’s hand in calling an EU referendum in the first place. Without Farage’s decision to stand down against 317 Conservatives, the election would have been very different. Without going hard after Labour leavers, the Conservatives would not have a thumping majority. Although his party hasn’t won a seat, and even if his campaign itself faltered, the untold story of this election is how Farage once again shaped events. He remains the bête noire of British politics.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/13/brexit-party-nig
el-farage-boris-johnson-labour-leavers



WISHIMAY



They’re openly saying it: Brexit has failed. But what comes next may be very dark indeed

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/they-re-openly-saying-it-brexit
-has-failed-but-what-comes-next-may-be-very-dark-indeed/ar-AA1bpE1T?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a707f06105ae481f80e8867366aa8faa&ei=683





Yep, saw that coming.

T


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Friday, May 19, 2023 9:55 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


A month ahead of the seventh anniversary of the 2016 vote that took Britain out of the European Union, Nigel Farage said three words of striking simplicity and truth: “Brexit has failed.”

You can watch the clip over and over, for it is something to behold. Here is the arch-Brexiter himself, the man who dedicated his life to the cause of rupture from the EU, admitting it has been a disaster.

Video at https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1658234370409263106

Britain is becoming poorer and falling behind its peers. Ours is now forecast to be one of the worst-performing economies in the world, not merely seventh in the G7 but 20th in the G20 – behind even Russia under toughening international sanctions.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, May 20, 2023 12:29 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


The UK will be fine.

Everybody got fucked because of Joe Biden*'s administration and the Covid plandemic they worked with China to keep Trump out of office.



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Wednesday, August 30, 2023 7:53 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Rishi Sunak rips up EU rules to greenlight 100,000 new homes
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1807308/housebuilding-rishi-su
nak-house-prices-eu-brexit


and a Prediction by that pervert on the Right and the Left?


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What’s going on in the United Kingdom is hardly unique; Center-left parties are collapsing across the developed world. It is a symptom of a wider change in the way we all live.


https://web.archive.org/web/20170604051722/http://zeihan.com/the-left-
leaves
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The traditional “Left” just doesn’t fit in the world rapidly unfolding, and so it is collapsing. Everywhere.

In the United States the populist uprising that elected Donald Trump is a textbook case of how economic evolution shapes political choice. Line workers — even union workers — deserted the Democrats en masse for Trump. What’s left of the Democrats — and they’ve lost over 1000 elected positions at state and national level since 2008 — is now incapable of taking any stance save a general opposition to all things Trump. That’s not enough to hold, and they face a generational wipeout in the 2018 by-elections that is likely to hand the Republicans their strongest Congressional majority in decades.
French presidential elections in May eradicated the ruling Socialists. Their candidate didn’t only not make it to the second voting round, he only garnered an 6% share of the first-round vote. Parliamentary elections in June may well reduce them from the dominant party in the National Assembly to the fourth-largest.
The European financial crisis has gutted the political stability of Europe’s peripheral countries. Greece is ruled by the nationalist-communists. Italy will likely have a comedian as prime minister by year’s-end. The Spanish Left is being displaced by a party that takes its developmental cues from Greece.
In Israel the economic shift has been so holistic that it has nearly banished the Israeli Labor party — the party that founded Israel — from the Knesset.



He also likes the shitlamist jihadis from the central highlands and the Bacha Bazi culture, he is quoted as saying 'Love those guys'.

Yet he blames Lowlands as opium smugglers and serial child abusers.

https://zeihan.com/the-return-of-american-narcissism/

and yet culturally England is now over-run by a foreign culture

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Wednesday, January 17, 2024 6:57 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


European Parliament to vote on resolution on stripping Hungary of EU voting rights

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/01/16/european-parliament-to-vote-on-
resolution-on-stripping-hungary-of-eu-voting-rights
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Wednesday, January 17, 2024 8:38 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Time for Hungary to leave the EU.

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