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Out Like Flynn!

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Monday, February 13, 2017 11:30 PM

ELVISCHRIST


Goodbye and good riddance to bad rubbish.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/us/politics/donald-trump-national-s
ecurity-adviser-michael-flynn.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=64910673&pgtype=article&_r=0


He needs to be investigated and prosecuted, and nailed to the fucking wall.

Not even a month in, and they're already dropping like flies.

America, you are completely fucked at the hands of these fascist cocksuckers.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 12:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 2:30 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Good thing he "resigned", it saves everyone the embarrassment of having to fire him.

Apparently the reason for his "resignation" was not that he talked to Russian contacts (whoever they were) but that he lied to Mike Pence about it. Left Mr. Pence twisting in the wind, as it were. You don't do that to your boss and expect to keep your job.

But this calls into question the whole idea of Trump being blackmailed by Russia. If American policy towards is already set in stone for nefarious reasons, it makes no sense for Flynn to go clumsily bumbling off to push a process that's already been decided. It just doesn't make sense ... at least, not to me.

Flynn was one of the weaker cabinet picks, DeVos is another.



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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake


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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 3:08 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Letter of resignation

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/mike-flynn-resigns-national-s
ecurity-advisor




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"Pity would be no more,
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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 9:22 AM

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Hillary's former deputy for communications at the State Department, Philippe Reines, had this to say to Flynn:

Dear Mike Flynn & Mike Flynn Jr., What goes around COMETS around. And given your pizza obsession... https://jobs.dominos.com/dominos-careers/ …

xo
Philippe
https://twitter.com/PhilippeReines/status/831356816609116160

In case you don't get the reference to COMET and pizza, Flynn's son was a big proponent of Pizzagate, the claim that Hillary and her pals ran a child sex-trafficking ring from the basement of the Comet Ping Pong pizza shop. This eventually led to a North Carolina man entering the shop and pointing a gun at an employee. He later started shooting, and after he was captured he told police he was "self investigating" the conspiracy theory.

Michael Flynn Sr. didn't traffic in Pizzagate, but he did pass along quite a few other weird conspiracy theories.
www.mediaite.com/online/here-are-the-most-bizarre-tweets-from-gen-flyn
n-trumps-national-security-advisor
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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 9:56 AM

ELVISCHRIST




Every single one of Cheato's cabinet picks have been weak and terrible.

And the Kompromat dossier on him has largely been verified and corroborated.

Meanwhile, he keeps trotting out one fascist and neo-Nazi after another as members of his administration.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:56 AM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Good thing he "resigned", it saves everyone the embarrassment of having to fire him.

Apparently the reason for his "resignation" was not that he talked to Russian contacts (whoever they were) but that he lied to Mike Pence about it. Left Mr. Pence twisting in the wind, as it were. You don't do that to your boss and expect to keep your job.

But this calls into question the whole idea of Trump being blackmailed by Russia. If American policy towards is already set in stone for nefarious reasons, it makes no sense for Flynn to go clumsily bumbling off to push a process that's already been decided. It just doesn't make sense ... at least, not to me.

Flynn was one of the weaker cabinet picks, DeVos is another.




This is only the pulling of first string SIG. His top advisors are a joke and a danger to this country's well being. It only took three weeks. You guys loved to kill Hillary for not taking national security seriously. So now I want to hear you give Trump equal time. Besides the Flynn scandal, he had an open air security briefing at his key largo golf course. He was surrounded by the general public as he was being briefed on his cell phone about North Korea. Big mistake.

Lets hear it SIG. Your guy is turning out to be a disaster. Come on 1kiki, SIG. let's hear the outrage.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 12:59 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol

I've heard the words fascist, nazi and even communist more in the last month than I have in my entire life. You guys are silly.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 1:08 PM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

I've heard the words fascist, nazi and even communist more in the last month than I have in my entire life. You guys are silly.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



That's right Jack our democracy is under attack. Flynn tweeted he was a scapegoat. That means others in the room were aware of his indiscretions with Russia while they were conducting cyber attacks against America. Remember, Flynn was still sitting in on classified briefings, three weeks after intelligence informed Trump he was subject to blackmail and therefore a security risk.

We suffered through demand after demand to investgate Clintons indiscretions based on rumors. So, my question to you Jack is, do you want an oversight commission to investigate this?

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 2:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Investigate away. But make no mistake that calls to look into Clinton was based on facts. Not rumors. No matter who hacked those emails, there are a lot of truths in there that you refuse to even become aware about.

I just have to laugh when I see that everything you lefties accuse Trump of now are the exact same things that Clinton was actually guilty of. It was just with other players.

[EDITED TO ADD]

I do acknowledge the fact that you personally haven't called me a Nazi or a Fascist, but what do you think when you see somebody else in here use those words to describe me?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 2:42 PM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Investigate away. But make no mistake that calls to look into Clinton was based on facts. Not rumors. No matter who hacked those emails, there are a lot of truths in there that you refuse to even become aware about.

I just have to laugh when I see that everything you lefties accuse Trump of now are the exact same things that Clinton was actually guilty of. It was just with other players.

[EDITED TO ADD]

I do acknowledge the fact that you personally haven't called me a Nazi or a Fascist, but what do you think when you see somebody else in here use those words to describe me?

Do Right, Be Right. :)



I base what I know about Clinton on what has been reported. There was much about her I totally disliked; and said so. It was the way the Republicans went about it.

If they don't show the same zeal in investigating what's going on with Russia and Trump, then it's a red flag that Clinton was purely political; and bullshit.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 2:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
I base what I know about Clinton on what has been reported. There was much about her I totally disliked; and said so. It was the way the Republicans went about it.

If they don't show the same zeal in investigating what's going on with Russia and Trump, then it's a red flag that Clinton was purely political; and bullshit.



The media didn't report anything that was in Hillary's and the DNC's and Podesta's emails. They sometimes even came out and said that if you read them yourself you were breaking the law (which is not true). So I'm going to assume that you know nothing about what was in the emails.



I asked you a question.

What do you think when somebody here wastes the word Nazi or Fascist on me?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 2:55 PM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Investigate away. But make no mistake that calls to look into Clinton was based on facts. Not rumors. No matter who hacked those emails, there are a lot of truths in there that you refuse to even become aware about.



And what facts were those? What did she do that was criminal? There was gross stupidity and negligence, but the FBI let her go with little more than harsh language. Sorry, if she were truly criminally guilty the Reps would have had her on a spit over a big fire. Love to hear your take.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I just have to laugh when I see that everything you lefties accuse Trump of now are the exact same things that Clinton was actually guilty of. It was just with other players.



Not a "leftie" sorry. Clinton was never in office to pick such and freak show of a cabinet, sorry again.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I do acknowledge the fact that you personally haven't called me a Nazi or a Fascist, but what do you think when you see somebody else in here use those words to describe me?




You called me an SJW and a Cuck so stop being such a pussy. I had to look them up - they're not even close, just you repeating what the youtubers say like some kind of myna bird. That's pretty lazy 6.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 3:37 PM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
I base what I know about Clinton on what has been reported. There was much about her I totally disliked; and said so. It was the way the Republicans went about it.

If they don't show the same zeal in investigating what's going on with Russia and Trump, then it's a red flag that Clinton was purely political; and bullshit.



The media didn't report anything that was in Hillary's and the DNC's and Podesta's emails. They sometimes even came out and said that if you read them yourself you were breaking the law (which is not true). So I'm going to assume that you know nothing about what was in the emails.



I asked you a question.

What do you think when somebody here wastes the word Nazi or Fascist on me?

Do Right, Be Right. :)



I don't use the term Nazi to describe others. Fascist I have no problem with. However, when people use those terms to describe you I don't mind. Why, because you have a deep seeded hatred for anyone who thinks differently than you. Even when it comes to me. I am not a liberal. I am pragmatic and independent. I deal with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations, or ideologies. You and jewelstatefan go right for the throat with the liberal crap.

Now, really Jack. What was in Clintons and the DNC'S emails is posted all over these threads. It was all over the media. Your denial of this makes me ask what your state of mind is. I think maybe you are remembering a post by 1kiki that was complete bullshit. Careful who you source.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 5:03 PM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


U.S. launches TV network as alternative to Russian propaganda

WASHINGTON -- Two U.S. government-funded news outlets are launching a global Russian-language TV network aimed at providing an alternative to slick, Kremlin-controlled media that critics say spread propaganda and misinformation.

Current Time, run by Prague-based Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty with help from Washington-based Voice of America, is targeting Russian speakers across the globe with round-the-clock programming intended to offer the type of fact-based news that its leaders say is sorely missing in the Russian market. The network formally launched this week after quietly starting operations last year.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-current-time-tv-network-rfe-russia-russ
ian-propaganda-misinformation-rt
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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 5:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Investigate away. But make no mistake that calls to look into Clinton was based on facts. Not rumors. No matter who hacked those emails, there are a lot of truths in there that you refuse to even become aware about.



And what facts were those? What did she do that was criminal? There was gross stupidity and negligence, but the FBI let her go with little more than harsh language. Sorry, if she were truly criminally guilty the Reps would have had her on a spit over a big fire. Love to hear your take.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I just have to laugh when I see that everything you lefties accuse Trump of now are the exact same things that Clinton was actually guilty of. It was just with other players.



Not a "leftie" sorry. Clinton was never in office to pick such and freak show of a cabinet, sorry again.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I do acknowledge the fact that you personally haven't called me a Nazi or a Fascist, but what do you think when you see somebody else in here use those words to describe me?




You called me an SJW and a Cuck so stop being such a pussy. I had to look them up - they're not even close, just you repeating what the youtubers say like some kind of myna bird. That's pretty lazy 6.





Name one thing in those emails other than the fact that the DNC and Hillary colluded to steal the election from Bernie Sanders. I'm willing to bet you don't know anything else other than that.

The list of criminal activities by the Clintons and especially what they've done with the unsurprisingly now defunct Clinton Foundation. I would think that the foundation shutting down almost immediately after she lost the election would raise some eyebrows of a truly pragmatic and independent thinker, but all you can say about it now is "that was in the past... focus!" lol...

Let's start with something small and rather comical and work our way up from there. The Clinton's stole nearly $200,000 of white house furniture on their way out the door in 2001.

Clinton would have picked a freakshow of a cabinet, but you're right... that didn't happen thankfully. What she was guilty of was taking millions of dollars in the Clinton Foundation money laundering operation from foreign dictators of Middle Eastern countries that we're currently at war with. Sure, on paper we're not at war with them because they are illegal wars without congressional approval, but when there are over 100,000 bombs dropped in 6 Muslim countries during the time Obama was in office, that is an act of war.



Maybe you're not an SJW or a cuck. You sure talk like one a lot of the time though. The difference between being called an SJW or a cuck VS a Nazi or a Fascist though is that there is a long history of people who have been brutalized, oppressed, subjugated, enslaved, and even killed by the names I'm getting called in here. The names I called you have a very short history of crybaby doucebags and man haters that make rants people make fun of on Youtube.

I'm not butt hurt about it. Keep calling me a nazi or whatever. Just know that every time somebody throws those words around like it's nothing, which you see EVERYWHERE ON THE INTERNET NOW, that it trivializes the meaning of them. You might not be the one saying it, but you should at least have a negative opinion about it when people throw it around like that.

The end of that message is in answer to THGRRI too.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:00 PM

THGRRI

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Quote:



Jack

Name one thing in those emails other than the fact that the DNC and Hillary colluded to steal the election from Bernie Sanders. I'm willing to bet you don't know anything else other than that.



First of all Jack, the one thing you list is enough to prove you wrong. Follow the link and watch the video and you will see what Clinton said about Benghazi in her private emails as reported by the press.

Really Jack, get with it. Try doing some research instead of just ranting out your ignorant opinions.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/05/21/lead-intv-schmidt-hillary-clin
ton-emails-benghazi.cnn


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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:20 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Spicer just confirmed that Trump was "informed" of DOJ warning that Flynn might be vulnerable to Russian blackmail. When?

The answer turns out to be January 26. That's three weeks ago.

Spicer is insisting that Trump fired Flynn due to an "erosion" of trust. "It was a matter of trust, pure and simple," he's said over and over. And yet, oddly enough, Trump's trust in Flynn didn't crater when he was told about Flynn's lies. It apparently cratered only after the Washington Post made Flynn's lies public. Funny that.

Now Spicer is trying to blame the Obama Justice Department for withholding its information about Flynn for 13 days. Nice try, Sean.

Oh, and Spicer says the real story here is all the leaks. Sure, Flynn is a story, but the press should consider the source. They should investigate that. Oddly, back when all those hacked Russian emails were gnawing away at Hillary Clinton's campaign, nobody on the right thought that was an issue. All that mattered was that this information was becoming public. I guess that's no longer operative.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:23 PM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


He fired Flynn because the facts of the phone calls and Flynn being a security risk were leaked to the press. If not for that Flynn would still be receiving security briefings.

You mentioned Clintons emails. Trump asked Putin to hack Clinton; remember that? He did it right in front of the entire country.

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Originally posted by second:
Spicer just confirmed that Trump was "informed" of DOJ warning that Flynn might be vulnerable to Russian blackmail. When?

The answer turns out to be January 26. That's three weeks ago.

Spicer is insisting that Trump fired Flynn due to an "erosion" of trust. "It was a matter of trust, pure and simple," he's said over and over. And yet, oddly enough, Trump's trust in Flynn didn't crater when he was told about Flynn's lies. It apparently cratered only after the Washington Post made Flynn's lies public. Funny that.

Now Spicer is trying to blame the Obama Justice Department for withholding its information about Flynn for 13 days. Nice try, Sean.

Oh, and Spicer says the real story here is all the leaks. Sure, Flynn is a story, but the press should consider the source. They should investigate that. Oddly, back when all those hacked Russian emails were gnawing away at Hillary Clinton's campaign, nobody on the right thought that was an issue. All that mattered was that this information was becoming public. I guess that's no longer operative.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
He fired Flynn because the facts of the phone calls and Flynn being a security risk were leaked to the press. If not for that Flynn would still be receiving security briefings.

You mentioned Clintons emails. Trump asked Putin to hack Clinton; remember that? He did it right in front of the entire country.

The strongest support for Flynn came from Moscow on Tuesday morning. Konstantin Kosachev, chairman of the Russian foreign affairs committee, said he did not deserve to lose his job and lashed out at Trump for allowing Flynn to resign. “Either Trump hasn’t found the necessary independence and he’s been driven into a corner,” he said. “Or Russophobia has permeated the new administration from top to bottom.”
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/13/white-house-leaves-michael-f
lynn-twisting-in-the-wind.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
He fired Flynn because the facts of the phone calls and Flynn being a security risk were leaked to the press. If not for that Flynn would still be receiving security briefings.

You mentioned Clintons emails. Trump asked Putin to hack Clinton; remember that? He did it right in front of the entire country.


Republican Jason Chaffetz, who never met a Hillary Clinton rumor that he couldn't spin into months of congressional testimony, says blandly that the Flynn affair is "taking care of itself."
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/831515826641592321

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:42 PM

THGRRI

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I hadn't see that SECOND. Nice update...

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
He fired Flynn because the facts of the phone calls and Flynn being a security risk were leaked to the press. If not for that Flynn would still be receiving security briefings.

You mentioned Clintons emails. Trump asked Putin to hack Clinton; remember that? He did it right in front of the entire country.

The strongest support for Flynn came from Moscow on Tuesday morning. Konstantin Kosachev, chairman of the Russian foreign affairs committee, said he did not deserve to lose his job and lashed out at Trump for allowing Flynn to resign. “Either Trump hasn’t found the necessary independence and he’s been driven into a corner,” he said. “Or Russophobia has permeated the new administration from top to bottom.”
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/13/white-house-leaves-michael-f
lynn-twisting-in-the-wind.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:46 PM

THGRRI

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I saw him at a town hall meeting during the week. He got killed by his constituents. They chanted "do your job" over and over again. Put the fear of god into him.

Oversight chair asks WH for security details of Mar-a-Lago meeting

House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) is asking the White House to provide his panel with details about how sensitive information was handled during a weekend meeting at President Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort.

In a letter to White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, Chaffetz requested detailed explanations of the Trump administration's security protocols at the Florida estate, including what documents were present at Saturday's powwow and how the administration vetted club guests.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/oversight-chair-asks-wh-for-sec
urity-details-of-mar-a-lago-meeting/ar-AAmWAB2?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=BHEA000


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
He fired Flynn because the facts of the phone calls and Flynn being a security risk were leaked to the press. If not for that Flynn would still be receiving security briefings.

You mentioned Clintons emails. Trump asked Putin to hack Clinton; remember that? He did it right in front of the entire country.


Republican Jason Chaffetz, who never met a Hillary Clinton rumor that he couldn't spin into months of congressional testimony, says blandly that the Flynn affair is "taking care of itself."
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/831515826641592321

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 8:39 PM

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The Leakers Who Exposed Gen. Flynn’s Lie Committed Serious — and Wholly Justified — Felonies
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/14/the-leakers-who-exposed-gen-flynns
-lie-committed-serious-and-wholly-justified-felonies
/

It’s very possible — indeed, likely — that the leakers were not acting with benevolent motives.

Flynn has many enemies throughout the intelligence and defense community. The same is true, of course, of Donald Trump; recall that just a few weeks ago, Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer warned Trump that he was being “really dumb” to criticize the intelligence community because “they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.”

It’s very possible — I’d say likely — that the motive here was vindictive rather than noble. Whatever else is true, this is a case where the intelligence community, through strategic (and illegal) leaks, destroyed one of its primary adversaries in the Trump White House.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 9:38 PM

RIVERLOVE


Flynn got away easy, because if you take on the CIA you usually end up dead. JFK and RFK learned that lesson the hard way.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:25 PM

ELVISCHRIST


If you voted for Trump or support him in any way, you are a fascist, neo-Nazi piece of shit, and deserve to be put up against the wall with the other collaborators.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:58 PM

THGRRI

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Or, it could be the advisers Trump has are vying for power and are the leak. Much of what is being leaked the press are attributing to his people. Can't say for sure.

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Originally posted by second:
The Leakers Who Exposed Gen. Flynn’s Lie Committed Serious — and Wholly Justified — Felonies
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/14/the-leakers-who-exposed-gen-flynns
-lie-committed-serious-and-wholly-justified-felonies
/

It’s very possible — indeed, likely — that the leakers were not acting with benevolent motives.

Flynn has many enemies throughout the intelligence and defense community. The same is true, of course, of Donald Trump; recall that just a few weeks ago, Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer warned Trump that he was being “really dumb” to criticize the intelligence community because “they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.”

It’s very possible — I’d say likely — that the motive here was vindictive rather than noble. Whatever else is true, this is a case where the intelligence community, through strategic (and illegal) leaks, destroyed one of its primary adversaries in the Trump White House.


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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 11:01 PM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
Flynn got away easy, because if you take on the CIA you usually end up dead. JFK and RFK learned that lesson the hard way.



I hope you're joking. If not I feel sorry for you. It would have to be tough living in a world were nothing is at it seems.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
You guys loved to kill Hillary for not taking national security seriously.

How can I politely call you a liar?
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Lets hear it SIG. Your guy is turning out to be a disaster. Come on 1kiki, SIG. let's hear the outrage.
'Outrage' over what? Trump's not 'my' guy. As a matter of fact, I was trying to get people to discuss what dems might do to block Trump's inevitable picks and policies. To no avail. You dolts seem completely mesmerized by Trump as much as you are by Putin, and completely unable to formulate any action on your own. Are you zombies? Or merely lobotomized?

And as to what to do about Trump, so far the answer is close to nada - except where you're focused even more on him. Well, that and the defector dem senators who are only too happy to go along.

Anyway, I'm just happy our president isn't bloody Hillary. And I'm waiting for the dems - YOU - to - get a brain or something.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 2:07 AM

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Out Like Flynn!

Funny things to consider ... so, who 'outed' Flynn? Because it sounds like he was really, REALLY WAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY out.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 2:39 AM

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First of all Jack, the one thing you list is enough to prove you wrong. Follow the link and watch the video and you will see what Clinton said about Benghazi in her private emails as reported by the press.

Really Jack, get with it. Try doing some research instead of just ranting out your ignorant opinions.



I forgot about your ADD. I will try to keep my posts to you no longer than 3 sentences maximum.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 2:40 AM

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If you voted for Trump or support him in any way, you are a fascist, neo-Nazi piece of shit, and deserve to be put up against the wall with the other collaborators.



You are a clown.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 6:45 AM

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It is NOT just Flynn!

Multiple members of the Trump team had repeated phone calls with senior Russian intelligence officials at the same time that Russian intelligence was hacking various email accounts in order to sabotage Hillary Clinton. And during this entire time, Trump himself was endorsing a foreign policy that appeared almost as if it had been dictated to him by Vladimir Putin.

The intercepts alarmed American intelligence and law enforcement agencies, in part because of the amount of contact that was occurring while Mr. Trump was speaking glowingly about the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin....The officials said the intercepted communications were not limited to Trump campaign officials, and included other associates of Mr. Trump.

....Officials would not disclose many details, including what was discussed on the calls, which Russian intelligence officials were on the calls, and how many of Mr. Trump’s advisers were talking to the Russians.

The American intelligence community has all but declared war on Trump since his inauguration. I hardly need to spell out why this is dangerous. At the same time, it's sure becoming a lot clearer why they're so alarmed by the guy.

And by the way, I shouldn't miss this chance to flog my favorite hobbyhorse again: FBI Director James Comey, who knew all about this, pushed hard not to make it public during the campaign. Instead he considered it more important to inform Congress that he had discovered additional copies of Hillary Clinton's emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop. Priorities.

www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communicati
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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 7:09 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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That's right Jack our democracy is under attack.


You're right, but it's not being attacked by Trump or his appointees. It's being attacked by the CIA. Think it through:

Flynn was head of the DIA, and it was 50 of the DIA's analysts who wrote an open letter of protest that their intelligence reports on Obama's pro-"moderate rebel" strategy in Syria leading to a "caliphate" of radicals were constantly being overwritten by the upper-ups into happy news for the White House.

Flynn was the head of the DIA at that time. And WHO would have had access to any telephone calls might have made?

The CIA is targeting FLynn as their first piece, they're going to use this to attack Trump, who is - you may recall- the DULY ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE USA. Elected, I might as, as the result of a DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.


This is the same playbook as Ukraine: When a divisive but properly-elected leader is in office but is thwarting your goals, slag him (or her) constantly in the the press, use your CIA and State Department neocon contacts to organize and spy, launder any allegations- false, misrepresented, or otherwise- through John McCain and a compliant corporate press, pay civilian provocateurs to turn demonstrations into riots .... lather, rinse, repeat until you have brought down the government.

You see? In the other thread, people are exploring the thought that we may be trending towards fascism. My point there is that it's not a future event

It's already here, and has been for at least 16 years. And it's not Trump.

I can only hope that as the CIA, State, and Congressional neocons are working to overthrow the Trump Presidency, Trump is gathering dirt on THEM, because they should be tried for treason.

IF Trump is going to prevail over the CIA and State Department neocons, he's going to have to be a lot smarter than he's been so far. And if he doesn't, we're doomed.

And then it won't matter WHAT you want: if you want peace, or more jobs, or better healthcare, or sovereign decision-making, you'll get endless war, sucked dry by health insurances (with taxpayer money), MORE free trade, absolutely no control over your environmental or energy or economic policies, but by GOD at least you'll have transgender bathrooms!

Sheesh.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 7:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

The CIA is targeting FLynn as their first peice, they're going to use this to attack Trump, who is - you may recall- the DULY ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE USA. Elected, I might as, as the result of a DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.

"Duly" elected? Do you mean "duly" as "in accordance with what is required or appropriate; following proper procedure or arrangement"? Really? FBI Director James Comey, who knew all Trump's people talking to Russian intelligence people, pushed hard not to make it public during the campaign. Instead he considered it more important to inform Congress that he had discovered additional copies of Hillary Clinton's emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop.

Then there are the millions who illegally voted for Hillary, at least according to Trump. Does that seem "duly elected" to you? I think some of those millions of voters should be investigated and jailed. Or else the illegal millions might vote again. More elections in the future, you know what I mean?

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 8:01 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND, you're being hysterical. Seriously. Calm down. It's people like you who let fascists in the door because they think that the fascists will "save them".

From what? I don't know ... probably the same boogeymen that the fascists themselves concoct, just to scare people. (Referencing that list that GSTRING brought up about fascists focusing on "enemies", that's what this whole BUT PUTIN! is about.)

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 8:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, you're being hysterical. Seriously. Calm down. It's people like you who let fascists in the door because they think that the fascists will "save them".

From what? I don't know ... probably the same boogeymen that the fascists themselves concoct, just to scare people. (Referencing that list that GSTRING brought up about fascists focusing on "enemies", that's what this whole BUT PUTIN! is about.)

Trump is not doing the simplest things all Presidents, except Trump, do.

I am waiting for Trump to make his income tax returns public information. Presidents do that, but not Trump. That is something he promised, but has not delivered. All the paperwork is already done. The only effort by Trump would be a phone call to his accountant.

Nixon had to pay extra tax when his income tax returns were made public. He had cheated.

Nixon's vice-president, Spiro Agnew, had to resign or go to jail when his income tax returns were made public. He had cheated.

Did Trump cheat on his taxes? He can easily prove he has not cheated, but he has not. Why not?

And then there is Trump's worldwide businesses. Presidents don't own businesses, but instead sell them, placing their money in a blind trust. Not Trump! He sold nothing.

Trump can be bribed by every country he has a business in and every International bank Trump has borrowed from. Besides being bribed, his businesses can be hurt by those same countries and International banks. That has not changed despite all the paperwork Trump signed to change daily control of his businesses to his sons.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 9:01 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND, you're still being hysterical.

If you're going to worry about being "sold out", why didn't you worry about the close connections between the past administrations and the Saudi Royal family? I think THEIR interests are far more inimical to ours than a bunch of hotels.

Good lord.

One of the things neither you nor THUGR not any of the other hysterics on the board have done is to define for yourselves ... WHAT ARE OUR INTERESTS? Now YOU, being an oil person, may have interests that are deeply different than the rest of us. But most of us don't- or IMHO shouldn't- give two shits about what "they" do "over there" unless it affects us. And so far, nobody has been able to show how Russia hurts out interests. China? Sure, an active economic adversary. N Korea? Yeah, a lunatic-run nation which SO FAR has been unable to reach us by missile-strike. Saudi Arabia? Yeah, well, we are locked together in our mutual dependence on the petro-dollar, but that doesn't excuse the fact that they've been fostering terrorism for over 40 years, and al Qaeda is just the latest branch. Qatar? Same problem as Saudi Arabia. The transnationals and the 45 people who control 40% of the world's resources? They HARDLY have our interests at heart! But seriously, who else has the means and the will to do us harm? Russia is a military competitor, but IMHO there's nothing there that a treaty couldn't solve.

Stop being so reactive. If you're going to worry about being sold out by anyone, worry about the deep state.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 9:17 AM

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lol

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Drunk piece of shit Nazi says what?

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 9:18 AM

REAVERFAN


Hang him for treason, then go down the line with the rest of the Trump Russian traitors.

End this disgrace.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 9:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SECOND, you're still being hysterical.

Signym, you are over using the word “hysterical”. All Presidents, except Trump, make their income tax returns public knowledge. The hysteria is all Trump, with his many silly excuses why not to do this very simple thing that only requires a phone call to his accountant. Trump said he can’t because nobody wants to see his taxes. Trump said he can’t because he is being audited. Trump is a hysterically funny guy with all the lamebrain excuses.

And then there are Trump’s businesses that he won’t sell because of his hysterical emotional attachment to his own name on all those buildings. Time for Trump to grow up and be a man. President Jimmy Carter sold his peanut business and those nuts did not even have his brand name “Jimmy” stamped on each one. Trump can sell his businesses. It won’t kill him to take down the building signs with his name on them. Or maybe Trump will cry when “Trump” disappears all over the world? The hysterical crying is optional, depending on how emotionally mature Trump is.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 9:21 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, you're still being hysterical.

If you're going to worry about being "sold out", why didn't you worry about the close connections between the past administrations and the Saudi Royal family? I think THEIR interests are far more inimical to ours than a bunch of hotels.

Good lord.

One of the things neither you nor THUGR not any of the other hysterics on the board have done is to define for yourselves ... WHAT ARE OUR INTERESTS? Now YOU, being an oil person, may have interests that are deeply different than the rest of us. But most of us don't- or IMHO shouldn't- give two shits about what "they" do "over there" unless it affects us. And so far, nobody has been able to show how Russia hurts out interests. China? Sure, an active economic adversary. N Korea? Yeah, a lunatic-run nation which SO FAR has been unable to reach us by missile-strike. Saudi Arabia? Yeah, well, we are locked together in our mutual dependence on the petro-dollar, but that doesn't excuse the fact that they've been fostering terrorism for over 40 years, and al Qaeda is just the latest branch. Qatar? Same problem as Saudi Arabia. The transnationals and the 45 people who control 40% of the world's resources? They HARDLY have our interests at heart! But seriously, who else has the means and the will to do us harm? Russia is a military competitor, but IMHO there's nothing there that a treaty couldn't solve.

Stop being so reactive. If you're going to worry about being sold out by anyone, worry about the deep state.

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Russian paid troll says what?

Derp.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 9:41 AM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


You tried to be slick. You destroyed Hillary in your posts thread after thread. You posted lies and quoted bullshit sources to do it. When confronted with you being for Trump you would say, I don't like him either. However, you would not continue on and lie about him as you did with Hillary. You were relentless with her. You barely insulted Trump in comparison.

Trump is definitely your guy.

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
You guys loved to kill Hillary for not taking national security seriously.

How can I politely call you a liar?
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Lets hear it SIG. Your guy is turning out to be a disaster. Come on 1kiki, SIG. let's hear the outrage.
'Outrage' over what? Trump's not 'my' guy. As a matter of fact, I was trying to get people to discuss what dems might do to block Trump's inevitable picks and policies. To no avail. You dolts seem completely mesmerized by Trump as much as you are by Putin, and completely unable to formulate any action on your own. Are you zombies? Or merely lobotomized?

And as to what to do about Trump, so far the answer is close to nada - except where you're focused even more on him. Well, that and the defector dem senators who are only too happy to go along.

Anyway, I'm just happy our president isn't bloody Hillary. And I'm waiting for the dems - YOU - to - get a brain or something.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?



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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 9:58 AM

THGRRI

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The facts as they are won't do for you. This Trump business is unfolding as we converse SIG, and none of what's happening supports your conspiracy theories. What's unfolding supports what others have been saying for the past year, and continue to post in response to you today.

You post garbage from sources that make up fake news to get clicks they are paid for. The crazier the headline the more clicks. You post from sources that deliberately edit reputable news sources reporting so it appears to be reporting something it is not. Then they hide their identities as they report on what they say is being said by the reputable source.

This has been proven time and again SIG, and here you go again. You're a troll, nothing more.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

That's right Jack our democracy is under attack.


You're right, but it's not being attacked by Trump or his appointees. It's being attacked by the CIA. Think it through:

Flynn was head of the DIA, and it was 50 of the DIA's analysts who wrote an open letter of protest that their intelligence reports on Obama's pro-"moderate rebel" strategy in Syria leading to a "caliphate" of radicals were constantly being overwritten by the upper-ups into happy news for the White House.

Flynn was the head of the DIA at that time. And WHO would have had access to any telephone calls might have made?

The CIA is targeting FLynn as their first piece, they're going to use this to attack Trump, who is - you may recall- the DULY ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE USA. Elected, I might as, as the result of a DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.


This is the same playbook as Ukraine: When a divisive but properly-elected leader is in office but is thwarting your goals, slag him (or her) constantly in the the press, use your CIA and State Department neocon contacts to organize and spy, launder any allegations- false, misrepresented, or otherwise- through John McCain and a compliant corporate press, pay civilian provocateurs to turn demonstrations into riots .... lather, rinse, repeat until you have brought down the government.

You see? In the other thread, people are exploring the thought that we may be trending towards fascism. My point there is that it's not a future event It's already here, and has been for at least 16 years. And it's not Trump.

I can only hope that as the CIA, State, and Congressional neocons are working to overthrow the Trump Presidency, Trump is gathering dirt on THEM, because they should be tried for treason.

IF Trump is going to prevail over the CIA and State Department neocons, he's going to have to be a lot smarter than he's been so far. And if he doesn't, we're doomed.

And then it won't matter WHAT you want: if you want peace, or more jobs, or better healthcare, or sovereign decision-making, you'll get endless war, sucked dry by health insurances (with taxpayer money), MORE free trade, absolutely no control over your environmental or energy or economic policies, but by GOD at least you'll have transgender bathrooms!

Sheesh.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 10:09 AM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, you're being hysterical. Seriously. Calm down. It's people like you who let fascists in the door because they think that the fascists will "save them".

From what? I don't know ... probably the same boogeymen that the fascists themselves concoct, just to scare people. (Referencing that list that GSTRING brought up about fascists focusing on "enemies", that's what this whole BUT PUTIN! is about.)



Really SIG? I haven't seen SECOND become hysterical, well, ever. You on the other hand get that way quite often. SECOND is calling for Trump to release his taxes. 70% of the country wants him to do so. Only people who wish to help him cover his ass don't. That would be you.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 10:26 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, It's people like you who let fascists in the door because they think that the fascists will "save them".



SIGNYM - you're being hysterical again. Hysterically funny. You're the one that voted for the guy who ticks all the Fascist boxes.

I think what you have is a big case of buyer's remorse. Trump isn't who you thought he would be (or maybe Trump is exactly who you thought he would be, eh? *evil laugh*). Even worse and more embarrassing, he's exactly what we thought he would be. Good news: crow is in season - have a feast.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
... that's what this whole BUT PUTIN! is about.)



But Putin! Invaded a sovereign nation.

But Putin! Hacked into and manipulated our elections

But Putin! Was in contact with Trump's campaign during and after the election.

But Putin! Is being bloody Putin.

No worries - it wouldn't be you if you didn't suck at logic.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 10:59 AM

THGRRI

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Let's not forget G that Trump lied by omission to his vice president. Trump and other staff were informed 9 days before the leaks started that Pence was lied to. He and the other staff chose not to tell the vice president until the story broke in the press. This is really serious. How can Pence trust Trump?

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Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, It's people like you who let fascists in the door because they think that the fascists will "save them".



SIGNYM - you're being hysterical again. Hysterically funny. You're the one that voted for the guy who ticks all the Fascist boxes.

I think what you have is a big case of buyer's remorse. Trump isn't who you thought he would be (or maybe Trump is exactly who you thought he would be, eh? *evil laugh*). Even worse and more embarrassing, he's exactly what we thought he would be. Good news: crow is in season - have a feast.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
... that's what this whole BUT PUTIN! is about.)



But Putin! Invaded a sovereign nation.

But Putin! Hacked into and manipulated our elections

But Putin! Was in contact with Trump's campaign during and after the election.

But Putin! Is being bloody Putin.

No worries - it wouldn't be you if you didn't suck at logic.



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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 11:25 AM

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Michael Flynn's Valentine's Day Cards



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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:15 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Hang him for treason, then go down the line with the rest of the Trump Russian traitors.

End this disgrace.



Who's the fascist?

lol

you're a silly bitch.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:20 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
First of all Jack, the one thing you list is enough to prove you wrong. Follow the link and watch the video and you will see what Clinton said about Benghazi in her private emails as reported by the press.

Really Jack, get with it. Try doing some research instead of just ranting out your ignorant opinions.



I forgot about your ADD. I will try to keep my posts to you no longer than 3 sentences maximum.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



This post is only one line Jack and you make no sense at all. What are you talking about?

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