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America's own "color revolution" brought to you by George Soros

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Friday, November 11, 2016 12:48 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Riots, demonstrations, petitions to overturn the results of a democratic election.

Gee, where have we seen that before?

Do you suppose Victoria Nuland is plotting how to "birth this thing" and "make this thing stick", trying to figure out which one of her neocon-cabal should take over? Where are the cookies, Vicki?



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Friday, November 11, 2016 1:59 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Nothing more fun to watch than a sore winner.= GSTRING


And watching all of the sore losers out there is even MORE fun, I GUARANTEE IT!


WHERE ARE THE SNIPERS, VICKI??

The great thing about the USA is that the military and the police here won't stand for the kind of crap that happened in Ukraine.




G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Friday, November 11, 2016 2:35 PM

SIGNYM

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You edited your post, but you wrote something about not accepting civil protest

Oh, they'll accept civil protest. Everybody has a right to protest, like Occupy and Tea Party.

What they won't accept is sniper fire. Our cops are armed, if they or the crowds are fired on, they'll shoot back.

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I often wonder how Frem - someone you seem to idolize as much as Six - would feel about your Trump love? How about Anthony? Do you remember him? I wonder how he would feel - I believe he was of Latin descent (father was from Cuba if I remember correctly). HKCavalier? Citizen? Kwicko? Pretty sure they would react like Mal4 did - gob smacked at what you've become.
I think they would be gobsmacked what the Democratic Party has become.

What a whiner.




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Saturday, November 12, 2016 4:54 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


No sooner had Trump been declared the 45th president of the United States, Soros-funded political operations launched their activities to disrupt Trump during Obama’s lame-duck period and thereafter. The swiftness of the Purple Revolution is reminiscent of the speed at which protesters hit the streets of Kiev, the Ukrainian capital, in two Orange Revolutions sponsored by Soros, one in 2004 and the other, ten years later, in 2014.

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As the Clintons were embracing purple in New York, street demonstrations, some violent, all coordinated by the Soros-funded Moveon.org and «Black Lives Matter», broke out in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Oakland, Nashville, Cleveland, Washington, Austin, Seattle, Philadelphia, Richmond, St. Paul, Kansas City, Omaha, San Francisco, and some 200 other cities across the United States.

The Soros-financed Russian singing group «Pussy Riot» released on YouTube an anti-Trump music video titled «Make America Great Again». The video went «viral» on the Internet. The video, which is profane and filled with violent acts, portrays a dystopian Trump presidency. Following the George Soros/Gene Sharp script to a tee, Pussy Riot member Nadya Tolokonnikova called for anti-Trump Americans to turn their anger into art, particularly music and visual art. The use of political graffiti is a popular Sharp tactic. The street protests and anti-Trump music and art were the first phase of Soros’s Purple Revolution in America.






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Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:26 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You know about the Soros funded Losers

I know about the Soros funded Losers.



The most important Operand here is LOSERS.



Let them have their day, Sigs.

Outside of the most insane MSM or SJW schills on Youtube like LG and TYT, nobody else with a solid mind is still crying.

I honestly will be worried for Trumps well being every time he makes a public apperance.

He is as well.

He is not stupid.

He wants to FIX things for all of us, but he is now the MOST HATED PRESIDENT ELECT in history from the other side.





Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:12 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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You edited your post, but you wrote something about not accepting civil protest per G

Oh, they'll accept civil protest. Everybody has a right to protest, like Occupy and Tea Party.
What they won't accept is sniper fire. Our cops are armed, if they or the crowds are fired on, they'll shoot back. - SIGNY

I often wonder how Frem - someone you seem to idolize as much as Six - would feel about your Trump love? How about Anthony? Do you remember him? I wonder how he would feel - I believe he was of Latin descent (father was from Cuba if I remember correctly). HKCavalier? Citizen? Kwicko? Pretty sure they would react like Mal4 did - gob smacked at what you've become.- G

I think they would be gobsmacked what the Democratic Party has become. What a whiner. - SIGNY

One doesn't have to look very far to see a veritable corporate sized California style "whinery" with your name on it. In fact, it's notable how much you have whined having just supported the most unlikely winner. The fact that you aren't more gracious - even a little - in victory is most telling.

Trolling ALREADY??? My god, G, you really just can't help yourself, can you?

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Onward.

I agree that both parties suck, that opinion has been around for a good long while.

I believe you are dreaming and setting the stage for payback for what you think happened in Ukraine.

What "payback" are you talking about? The reality is that neocon Victoria Nuland, as part of the neocon State Department and CIA, neocon Hillary Clinton, and neocon George Soros have an EXCELLENT record of funding and provoking "color revolutions" everywhere, not just Ukraine. First, they divide a nation into groups, funding various interest-groups and NGOs and pitting them against each other and against the government, then they stir them up, adding critical levels of violence from paid operatives and willing embedded extremist groups. If the government clamps down, that is used as a cause celebre to incite more violence, and if the government DOESN'T react then the interest-groups gain more sway. If the level of violence doesn't ratchet up to overthrow-levels, just add snipers and VOILA! Instant color revolution!

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Let's see - recipe for payback:
1. Civil unrest as it is happening now by so called professional protestors - check
2. Sprinkle in armed, anti-US payback squads to fire at the police to make it seem protestors are shooting at the police.
3. Then, as you say "Our cops are armed, if they or the crowds are fired on, they'll shoot back."
4. Mass casualties, followed by even greater unrest, greater violence and riots, America in shambles - check?

Well, you seem to understand the George Soros plan pretty well: How to destabilize a government in a few steps.

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"If the crowds are fired on," is a neat dodge to have handy - "We saw someone firing on the crowd." Crowd being stand in for "citizens" so all the gullible MSM gobblers will think it was brave how they defended the defenseless citizens.
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Snipers ... not government snipers ... were active in Ukraine and Venezuela. Is this what you want? I don't understand your point.

George Soros' plan isn't to "promote democracy" ... all you have to do is look at the clusterfucks that HE created, destroying democratic governments in the process. George Soros is trying to destroy nation-statehood, and to that end he has been systematically destroying nations one after another. And he's done a fine job of it. After all, the best time to buy is when there is blood in the streets.

I'm looking for a place where we can all COME TOGETHER, not where we pull apart. You seem to understand the "pulling apart" process VERY well; so how about figuring out the "uniting" process too? Or is that not part of your plan?

"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

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Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:27 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Did you watch my video G?


Seriously Dude and/or Duddette.

Pretty fucking Epic when talking about the assholes who basically "Own" us.




Read a Book.

Lincoln was not some Magical Rightous Dude for Slave rights.

As with any Legislation, there were a lot of "Ties".


Maybe He was "Good", mabey he wasnt....

I don't think He was and he was just Lucky.




Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:31 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Here's a song that I believe that you and I and Sigs would love.



Everything is Perspective.

Everything is Eventual.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, November 12, 2016 10:57 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It sounds to me as if you think Trump is engineering the chaos. First of all, why would Trump, of all people, want "payback" for Ukraine? Why would Trump, of all people, want to tear this nation apart? He's President-elect; creating the kind of chaos you envision would make this country ungovernable. The only people who have an interest in tearing the USA apart are the people who've never had the USA's interests at heart to begin with, and who have had lots and lots of practice at creating chaos.


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SIG: "I'm looking a place where we can all COME TOGETHER, not where we pull apart."

You should look at this forum for your lessons on how to bring people together, or not. How many have you brought to your pov? How many not?

I'm looking for an intellectual agreement on what we have in common. I'm definitely not trying to schmooze or finagle into agreeing with something they don't understand. Not interested in holding hands and singing kumbaya, just trying to see where our mutual self-interest lies.

So, do some Americans have an interest in keeping America together? Or do some Americans have an interest in tearing America apart?



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Saturday, November 12, 2016 3:05 PM

THX


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Riots, demonstrations, petitions to overturn the results of a democratic election.

Gee, where have we seen that before?

Do you suppose Victoria Nuland is plotting how to "birth this thing" and "make this thing stick", trying to figure out which one of her neocon-cabal should take over? Where are the cookies, Vicki?





Something to worry about.

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Saturday, November 12, 2016 5:46 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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I'm looking for an intellectual agreement on what we have in common. ... where our mutual self-interest lies.
I'll start.
Originally this country was founded by rich businessmen trying to avoid paying taxes to the King. 'no taxation without representation' Since they were pretty sure the King wasn't going to allow them representation, it was used as an casus belli to incite a revolution. It was about profit ... wrapped in the camouflage of freedom for the masses. As such, their definition of democracy and who got to participate in it was limited. Men, but not women; free people, not indentured servants or slaves; landholders, not poor people or workers ... and so on. In other words, 'democracy' meant rule by rich, free, white men, much like themselves.
I'd like to think this country has grown beyond those very limited views.
So when I think of what we have in common - as a country - it's the mutual benefit of all the flesh and blood people of the country. Not democrats or republicans, whites or blacks, men or women, young or old, rich or poor - all people. And not phony 'people' like corporations, and especially NOT transnational corporations.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Saturday, November 12, 2016 5:49 PM

THX



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Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:20 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Where'd that come from? It wasn't 'occupy democrats'.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:55 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


There is an "occupy democrats" website and FB page...

http://occupydemocrats.com/

It is full of bullshit. You should see it.






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Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I went there before I posted - looked at it - looked around for the posters that supposedly were put out by 'occupy d'. I didn't find the posters, so they are just the normal "quoted" made-up lies and bullshit that are so prevalent here. otoh the website seems to be run by people who drank their own kool-aid.

So, not saying one side is right and the other wrong - just saying that I don't appreciate lies posted by anyone to further any cause.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Sunday, November 13, 2016 1:12 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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It sounds to me as if you think Trump is engineering the chaos. First of all, why would Trump, of all people, want "payback" for Ukraine? Why would Trump, of all people, want to tear this nation apart? He's President-elect; creating the kind of chaos you envision would make this country ungovernable. The only people who have an interest in tearing the USA apart are the people who've never had the USA's interests at heart to begin with, and who have had lots and lots of practice at creating chaos.- SIGNY

Your assumptions are as usual, way off base. I know, I know, you do that on purpose so you can make a completely unrelated point - check. -G



G, YOU POSTED

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I agree that both parties suck, that opinion has been around for a good long while. I believe you are dreaming and setting the stage for payback for what you think happened in Ukraine.-G

I'm "setting the stage" for "payback"?

Dood, I don't have that kind of power!

I can barely set the table at home because nobody keeps it clear!

And if it's not ME who is "setting the stage", who is? Trump?

And if that's not your point, what is your point?



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Sunday, November 13, 2016 2:13 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


G, this seems to be another pointless point

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Pretty sure they [FREM, ANTHONY, HKCAVALIER, CITIZEN, KWICKO] would react like Mal4 did - gob smacked at what you've become.

I think they would be gobsmacked what the Democratic Party has become.- SIGNY

They already knew what the democratic party was

I said, "had become". They weren't here when the Podesta files were released, exposing the Clinton's "pay to play" schemes and the DNC's rigging of the primaries. I know that for Frem medical care was a huge necessity, so maybe he would have opted to stick with Hillary. As for the others, it's hard to say.

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so so that's just another Siggy 2-step dodge.- G
No, it's just that it's kind of ridiculous to put words in other people's mouths, especially when they're not here to set the record straight.

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About you supporting Trump? Or is Trump just the stepping stone?

"Stepping stone" to WHAT?

A place in Trump's cabinet?

World domination?



This "stepping stone" concept sounds like me "setting the stage" for ... well, anything. I have no special contacts, and I'm for sure not in power anywhere. I have no special future. The only thing I can do is vote and express my opinion, just like everybody else. I have a regular job, and I like the way CA is going (for the most part) so except for a few specific Trump campaign promises (which I've already detailed) I'm voting for policies that are somewhat contradictory to Trump.

So, again - what's your point???



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Sunday, November 13, 2016 2:16 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


The rioting liberals may think that they're defending against ... something ... but the reality is that

FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ELITE, THIS IS JUST ABOUT LOSING POWER AND TRYING TO REGAIN IT. AND FOR THE GLOBALISTS, THIS IS ABOUT DESTROYING NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY.

People just aren't realistic enough!







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Sunday, November 13, 2016 5:09 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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So another dodge - disappointing but not surprising. Maybe you feel honesty is a weakness? A liability? If you hadn't railed against many of the posters here by lamenting that in the past there were posters who were "more interesting and more intelligent" you might get away with that side step. By saying what you did you obviously felt you knew them well enough and wished they were here now. But in the real now, you've chosen to act like you don't really know them at all. The reasons are obvious. Signym as usual.


I didn't say THEY WOULD AGREE WITH ME. I said they were more "interesting and more intelligent", which means we would have had a more substantive discussion. I have had really intense discussions with people that disagreed with me, like GEEZER and SARGEX. Others like FREM and BYTE and DREAMTROVE and even PN brought ideas to the board I hadn't even thought of.

In fact, it was a discussion with BYTEMITE (IIRC) that switched me to supporting nationalism instead of globalism, it just flipped a switch in my brain.

Instead, I'm trying to address your "points" which, to be honest, seem more like insinuations. Insinuations that I'm "setting the table for payback" and that this is just a "stepping stone" to ...???

Really? I can't even figure out what you're trying to say, much less "dodge" it!

But feel free to clarify your points.

Here's a hint: The topic is George Soros, who is a globalist and who has contributed to destabilizing many nations around the globe, possibly including the USA. (Canada too, prolly).

Are the organizations which are inciting demonstrations funded by Soros?
Do you think that riots are a suitable political expression?
Were there equivalent riots after the Obama elections?
What is globalism versus nationalism, and what do you think are the benefits and downsides of one versus another.

There is lots to discuss.






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Sunday, November 13, 2016 9:38 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So G, it appears you don't have anything to say on the topic.



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Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:01 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Soros And Liberal Mega-Donors Plot For War With Donald Trump

George Soros and other liberal mega-donors are gathering in Washington for a three-day, closed-door meeting where they will discuss opposing Trump’s plan for his first 100 days in office.

According to Politico, the meeting, which began on Sunday night at Washington’s Mandarin Oriental hotel, is sponsored by the influential Democracy Alliance donor club and will include darlings of the left such as House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, Senator Elizabeth Warren and Congressional Progressive Caucus co-chairman Keith Ellison.

Politico reports:

The meeting is the first major gathering of the institutional left since Trump’s shocking victory over Hillary Clinton in last week’s presidential election, and, if the agenda is any indication, liberals plan full-on trench warfare against Trump from Day One. Some sessions deal with gearing up for 2017 and 2018 elections, while others focus on thwarting President-elect Trump’s 100-day plan, which the agenda calls “a terrifying assault on President Obama’s achievements — and our progressive vision for an equitable and just nation.”

Yet the meeting also comes as many liberals are reassessing their approach to politics — and the role of the Democracy Alliance, or DA, as the club is known in Democratic finance circles. The DA, its donors and beneficiary groups over the last decade have had a major hand in shaping the institutions of the left, including by orienting some of its key organizations around Clinton, and by basing their strategy around the idea that minorities and women constituted a so-called “rising American electorate” that could tip elections to Democrats.


The Democracy Alliance has fed upwards of $500 million toward liberal activist groups and candidates since Soros co-founded the group in 2005.

All members of DA are required to give $200,000 a year to recommended activist groups and pay annual dues of $30,000 to fund the DA staff and its meetings.

Gara LaMarche, the president of the DA, told donors Sunday evening that some reassessment is in order for the Democratic party. “You don’t lose an election you were supposed to win, with so much at stake, without making some big mistakes, in assumptions, strategy and tactics,” LaMarche said, according to prepared remarks he provided to Politico.

LaMarche would add that the reassessment “must take place without recrimination and finger-pointing, whatever frustration and anger some of us feel about our own allies in these efforts,” and he said “It is a process we should not rush, even as we gear up to resist the Trump administration.”

While focusing on preserving ObamaCare and other achievements of the Obama administration that are threatened by a Donald Trump presidency, the DA’s agenda includes panels on rethinking polling and the left’s approach to winning the working-class vote.

How about promoting the interests of the working class, instead of the "presumed victim" class?

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The group will also stress funneling cash into state legislative policy initiatives and races where Republicans took over last week.

President-elect Donald Trump has said his first 100 days will be dedicated to restoring “honesty, accountability and change to Washington” through the following seven steps:

1) A Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress

2) A hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health)

3) A requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated

4) A five year ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service

5) A lifetime ban on the White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government

6) A complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections

7) Cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America’s water and environmental infrastructure

Billionaire George Soros immediately had fingers of blame pointing at him for the anti-Trump riots and protests that swept the nation since Nov. 9, as his group MoveOn.org has organized most of them.

The billionaire committed $25 million to boosting the Clinton campaign and other Democratic candidates and causes in 2016.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-14/soros-and-liberal-mega-donors
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I'm going to cross-post this list under "Trump is succeeding already". Although I only hoped that Trump would do three things (get out of free trade deals, do something about illegal immigration, and normalize relations with Russia) I don't think that Trump should be judged by MY list, which is abbreviated, but against his own statements.

As far as the above list goes, I'm for #4,5,6, against # 1,2,3, and equivocal on #7 depending on how it is carried out.



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