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Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:18 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Something on the Minds of the editors of Wired in this Brand New World below, but first: Isn't this the perfect time for someone to coin a new Era? We had Gen X and the Millennials recently - surely this massive shift in who knows what is a dividing line that can't be ignored.

Something to express the confusion:
At least it's not Palin!
I wish it was Palin!

Needs to be shorter:

Orangezilla
Trumptopia Trumpschmopia
Trumpigarchy
Insane Green Sucking Sound
Putin's Bitch
Fancy Bear's Plaything

Obviously I need more time. Please - I encourage others to try and name this time.

Meanwhile, Wired:

https://www.wired.com/2016/11/trumps-win-signals-open-season-russias-p
olitical-hackers
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YESTERDAY, AMERICA ELECTED as president the apparently preferred candidate of Russia’s intelligence agencies. After a campaign season marred by the influence of hackers, including some widely believed to be on Vladimir Putin’s payroll, that outcome means more than a mandate for Trump and his coalition. For Russia, it will also be taken as a win for the chaos-injecting tactics of political hacks and leaks that the country’s operatives used to meddle in America’s election—and an incentive to try them elsewhere.

Following Donald Trump’s presidential win, and even in the weeks leading up to it, cybersecurity and foreign-policy watchers have warned that Russia’s government-sponsored hackers would be emboldened by the success of the recent string of intrusions and data dumps, including the hacks of the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. Security firms that analyzed the breaches, and US intelligence agencies, have both linked those attacks to the Kremlin. That Russia perceives those operations as successful, experts say, will only encourage similar hacks aimed at shifting elections and sowing distrust of political processes in Western democracies, particularly those in Europe. “What they’ll learn from this is, ‘We did it, we got away with it, we got the outcome we wanted,'” says James Lewis, a cybersecurity-focused fellow with the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “This will only increase their desire to intervene.”

Fancy Bears Hit Europe
In fact, those interventions and intrusions are already underway. Since this summer’s breaches of the Democratic party, at least a dozen European organizations have also been targeted by the state-linked Russian hacker group known as Fancy Bear, or APT28, according to Dmitri Alperovitch, the CEO of the security firm Crowdstrike, which identified Russia as the culprit behind the DNC hack in July. Several of those attempts have been successful, he says, and multiple American targets of the group have also been hacked but have yet to publicly reveal that they were compromised. A report out today from security firm Trend Micro confirms the group has continued to hit “various governments and embassies around the world” in just the last weeks. “They’ve continued their attempted intrusions of political entities pretty much unabated,” Alperovitch says.

They’ve continued their attempted intrusions of political entities pretty much unabated.
CROWDSTRIKE CEO DMITRI ALPEROVITCH
Even before Trump’s win, Alperovitch says, he believes Russia considered Fancy Bear’s hacking operations a significant achievement. He points to the uncertainty and doubt the hacker group was able to instill in American electoral politics, with everyone from Bernie Sanders supporters to rightwing media to Donald Trump himself making arguments that the system was “rigged” in favor of Hillary Clinton. “I think they’ve gotten medals already,” Alperovitch told WIRED in an interview before Tuesday’s election. “They’ve had success beyond their wildest dreams.”

Alperovitch adds that he’s met with senior government officials across Europe who fear that the Kremlin’s ability to influence American electoral politics presages attacks aimed at upcoming elections in France and Germany, as well as the UK’s parliamentary vote on Brexit. “They’re concerned that the blueprint used now against the US will be used against them in upcoming election cycles,” says Alperovitch. “They’re concerned that the precedent that’s been set is that you can do this against the US, and if so, that they’ll be walked all over by Russia.”

Russia’s state-sponsored hackers targeting Western political institutions is, to be clear, hardly new. In just the past few years, hackers believed to be based in Russia have breached the White House and the State Department, for instance, even leading at one point last year to a temporary shutdown of the State Department’s email systems.

But compared with those silent espionage intrusions, the recent hacks have been increasingly brazen, with hacked emails and documents made public in order to influence American media and public opinion. By the time of the breach of the World Anti-Doping Agency in September, designed to implicate US athletes in suspect behavior, the hackers no longer even sought to hide their connection to Russia. The hackers published the medical files of high-profile US Olympians on the site Fancybears.net, and adorned them with GIFs of dancing bears.

No Clear Remedy
Those increasingly common techniques have blended hacking and propaganda in a way that American intelligence agencies haven’t in kind, says Thomas Rid, a cybersecurity-focused professor in the department of War Studies at King’s College London and author of Rise of the Machines. And Russia’s information operations only become more effective as Western democracies become increasingly polarized. Beyond Trump, Rid points to Brexit, the rise of the nationalist, nativist French party National Front, and a recent German poll in which respondents at both the extreme left and right said they had more trust in Putin than in Angela Merkel. “The ground is becoming more fertile for Russia’s influence operations,” says Rid. “Trump is the embodiment of that.”

MORE RUSSIAN HACKING
Russia’s shift to bold, barely covert hacking operations has also no doubt stemmed partly from a sense of impunity. American intelligence agencies took months to publicly name the Russian government as the source of the DNC hack that came to light in July. Even then, the response has been murky: Despite Vice President Joe Biden’s assurances that the US would be “sending a message” to Putin intended to have “maximum impact,” it’s not clear if or how that counterattack happened.

Trump’s win may now delay America’s response or reduce its efficacy, says the CSIS’s Lewis. Even if the Obama administration carries out its response before Trump’s inauguration, Putin may doubt that any policy of deterrence would carry over to Trump’s administration—particularly given the fondness for Putin that Trump expressed on the campaign trail, his weak support for NATO, and the doubts Trump has publicly cast on attributing the DNC hack to Russia. After January, America’s account of grievances against Russia’s hackers could be wiped clean. “For Trump, there will be a before and an after” the election, says Lewis. “If they do something that hurts him, he’ll respond. But if it happened before the election, it’s over.”

All of that means Russia’s hacking spree may have just begun. Expect Fancy Bear and its habit of digitally disemboweling Western political targets to be an unwelcome fixture of Trump’s first term—and beyond.

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Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:26 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Hillary ran against Putin .... AND LOST.

heh heh heh

She stood up a carboard-Putin as boogeyman and thought she could win by knocking that down. Turns out, she lost against a piece of cardboard.

And your "sources" are SO unreliable they completely missed what was going on in front of them, and you- like the dupe that you are- believed them. And STILL believe them.

heh heh heh




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Thursday, November 10, 2016 11:22 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hillary ran against Putin .... AND LOST.

heh heh heh

She stood up a carboard-Putin as boogeyman and thought she could win by knocking that down. Turns out, she lost against a piece of cardboard.

And your "sources" are SO unreliable they completely missed what was going on in front of them, and you- like the dupe that you are- believed them. And STILL believe them.

heh heh heh



First you deny or refuse to acknowledge that Putin was trying to interfere with the election. Now you connect Hilary’s defeat with him being successful. Russia is too puny too pull that off. Kind of like a nat on an elephant.

Not my sources SIG. There is plenty of documentation here of me talking about the anger throughout the Appalachians and Rust Belt. Those very same people who have been disenfranchised voted to throw the bums out. It’s that simple. It was also many of the same voting districts across America that voted for Obama that helped put Trump over the top. So you can rule out bigotry as well. He got fifty nine million votes. Certainly not that many racists in this country.

Clinton lost because of economics. Trump ruled the first half hour to forty minutes of the first debate because he talked about ending free trade. Clinton never picked up on that. All she kept offering was more of the same. Of course there’s more but I will debate that with the honest brokers on this site. Certainly not the dishonest ones like you.



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Friday, November 11, 2016 2:28 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

First you deny or refuse to acknowledge that Putin was trying to interfere with the election. Now you connect Hilary’s defeat with him being successful. Russia is too puny too pull that off. Kind of like a nat on an elephant.
DOOD!

I can't believe Soros is paying you to be his useful idiot, so I guess you're his useful idiot FOR FREE!!! Say, where did you grow up - East Slobovia?




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Friday, November 11, 2016 2:39 PM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

First you deny or refuse to acknowledge that Putin was trying to interfere with the election. Now you connect Hilary’s defeat with him being successful. Russia is too puny too pull that off. Kind of like a nat on an elephant.
DOOD!

I can't believe Soros is paying you to be his useful idiot, so I guess you're his useful idiot FOR FREE!!! Say, where did you grow up - East Slobovia?




Hahahah! You keep copying my lines! Get your own or pay up thief! Remember: HATE is FREE!

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Friday, November 11, 2016 3:17 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Hahahah! You keep copying my lines! Get your own or pay up thief! Remember: HATE is FREE!= GSTRING


Oh, so you're saying that you've been posting hate-filled lines and I've been copying you??

GEE! YOU FIGURED OUT MY (secret) PLAN! (Yanno, the one I told you about!)

What an idiot!




G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Friday, November 11, 2016 4:02 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/22/technology/yahoo-data-breach/

Yahoo says 500 million accounts stolen


Not 500 million emails - A HALF A BILLION UNIQUE ACCOUNTS.

How many emails per account were there, do you suppose? 100? 1000? Let's say 1000, conservatively. That's 500 BILLION emails exposed. I know, at that number, it gets pretty abstract. It's hard to imagine why anyone would care enough to do ALL that.





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Tuesday, November 15, 2016 6:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I will be the first to admit that Putin may have done what he could to influence the election. I don't really believe it, but it is possible.

My thoughts on this is that I don't think it was necessarily a bad thing. Why do you hate Putin? Why would you hate Russia? Is it because at one time we went to war with them? Is it because 2 1/2 decades ago most of our Hollywood flicks used Russia as a bad guy until the Cold War was finally over?


We have been wreaking havoc in their Backyard since right after WWII in the Middle East. We stepped it up when GHWB was president, and from then on it's just gotten worse, no matter who our President was.

You and me? Outside of higher gas prices when things go South, we really don't have to deal with much of the fallout unless things go Nuclear (serious, no pun intended there). Russia, on the other hand? The Secular government of Syria is pretty much the last stop from Jihadists having a direct path into Russia.


WE are the ones who have been actively trying to overthrow that government. WE are the ones who armed not only the recent ISIS rebels, but Al-Queda before them. WE are the ones who started all of this shit.


I was born in 1979 and Russia has never done a single bad thing to me. I have no ill will toward Russia and their people.

Maybe Russia was the ones that hacked the DNC and Hillary's Server? What does that matter in the end? We got a look at an extrememly corrupt politician, and all of the extrememly corrupt politicans under her.

My biggest fear isn't Russia right now. It's that if somehow we could go back and "hack" every politician from every side since WWII that they've all been just as guilty as She was of this. That every single thing we thought we knew was a lie.




All I can say is that for at least the last 16 years, it's been my own Government fucking me personally from both sides. Those are the scars I bear right now.


Even still, I managed to do right and really save when I could. I even worked nearly 3 years for minimum wage just to keep "even" but things are so bad in Retail now compared to the late 90s when I was a kid that you can't even pretend to maintain any sense of self respect in a job like that. After I got fired for sticking up for myself and my fellow employees I just stopped working. I even lost my food stamps because the idea of working a dead-end job with no respect is so abhorrent to me, at least while I spend up the last of my nest egg.



I was able to walk into any temp agency in 1999-2000 and within a week get a job making over $15/hr with my technical skills and no degree. I can't seem to make anywhere close to that now, even given the fact that nearly 20 years later everything costs almost twice as much as it did back then.


What do I give a F--K what Russia is doing when the Enemy has been here the whole time?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 6:03 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So, I'm sure you know the punchline - those half a billion hacked email accounts - wee hacked by the US government.
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/22/technology/yahoo-data-breach/

Yahoo says 500 million accounts stolen


Not 500 million emails - A HALF A BILLION UNIQUE ACCOUNTS.

How many emails per account were there, do you suppose? 100? 1000? Let's say 1000, conservatively. That's 500 BILLION emails exposed. I know, at that number, it gets pretty abstract. It's hard to imagine why anyone would care enough to do ALL that.










How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 6:11 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You're not afraid, are you 1kiki?


There is no privacy anymore.

I'm ahead of my time in what I admit here, even though I'm largely hated for my views.


I for one welcome a world where I can see what you do when you think nobody is looking.




Maybe you're clean. Maybe you're not. Not everyone is an evil asshole like me.


But just imagine how many delicious hours you can spend Trolling through everyone elses e-mails when we're all hacked and everyone can see everyone else for what they truly are.





Don't be afraid of this future.

Whatever you have done, there are likely 1,000 more people who did something far more deplorable than you online.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 6:15 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK





Even THIS can ruin the only Good Thing that Cartman ever did.


Cartman was Good, for real, all season, until THIS.......

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 6:20 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK




"THIS... is why we all need to come together, Skank....

LOL



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 6:35 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It should REALLY be entertaining because I believe that more often than not it boils down to something like this...





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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 6:54 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


It's not going to be us looking at us, it's already 100% government snooping on us while they keep us in the dark. I'd really dislike other people prying, but I revile it when the government does it.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're not afraid, are you 1kiki?


There is no privacy anymore.

I'm ahead of my time in what I admit here, even though I'm largely hated for my views.


I for one welcome a world where I can see what you do when you think nobody is looking.




Maybe you're clean. Maybe you're not. Not everyone is an evil asshole like me.


But just imagine how many delicious hours you can spend Trolling through everyone elses e-mails when we're all hacked and everyone can see everyone else for what they truly are.





Don't be afraid of this future.

Whatever you have done, there are likely 1,000 more people who did something far more deplorable than you online.

Do Right, Be Right. :)






How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 6:55 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


After all the denials, evasion and dodges we come to find out that Trump did have contact with the Russians, prior to and after the election.

And no one's gone to jail. "Lock her up" comes to mind about Hilary's emails for supposed "hidden" illegal treasures which the FBI stated they never uncovered. And here we have Russian officials openly stating that there was contact with the Trump campaign, and he still hasn't be charged.

Things are really getting stranger and curious-er by the day.


SGG

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 7:10 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Maybe u have details. Last I looked, a computer and another computer had infrequent msgs, but no one knows who was on either end.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 7:12 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


http://www.snopes.com/trump-server-tied-to-russian-bank/

A spate of articles claimed Donald Trump was deeply connected to a Russian bank via a computer server, but there is no compelling evidence that's true.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 10:27 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Something on the Minds of the editors of Wired in this Brand New World below, but first: Isn't this the perfect time for someone to coin a new Era? We had Gen X and the Millennials recently - surely this massive shift in who knows what is a dividing line that can't be ignored.



I read something last year that said that my kiddo (born 2002) is a Gen Z, the "after millennial".

By looking at all the news articles of drug zombies I wondering if "Meth Kidz" wouldn't be the most appropriate... Or "GranGen" for all the kids that are being raised by grandma...

I think this generation has yet to distinguish itself in any way, I think they will be named in hindsight.

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 1:37 PM

THGRRI



Quote:



THG

First you deny or refuse to acknowledge that Putin was trying to interfere with the election. Now you connect Hilary’s defeat with him being successful. Russia is too puny too pull that off. Kind of like a nat on an elephant.



Quote:


SIG
DOOD!

I can't believe Soros is paying you to be his useful idiot, so I guess you're his useful idiot FOR FREE!!! Say, where did you grow up - East Slobovia?




SIG, I don't even know what your response means. My statement stands. You want it both ways.

Sorry, I am busy so no time to play here much.

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 1:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
It's not going to be us looking at us, it's already 100% government snooping on us while they keep us in the dark. I'd really dislike other people prying, but I revile it when the government does it.



Even my friends and family called me crazy when I said that all of our phone conversations were being Saved after the Patriot Act, 15 years ago.

Turns out, it's true, and going on 20 years later nobody even really cares.....


Orwell.

Nobody is watching you all of the time, but somebody is watching all of us some of the time, if you have High Tech in your home.

XBox One is Super Scary like that.

It barely works offline.

It's always ON, even when powered off.

Come home from work and tell it to load a game or movie or TV show or the RWED.


It knows who you are. It knows your face. It knows your voice. It knows your mannarisms.



I'll never own one, but that hardly matters. I'm an old dog now and inconsequential.

It's about the Kids.

They grow up with it and don't even question it.

It's the New New.



EDITED TO ADD:

I just watched a commercial on YouTube today when I always skip them. It was about a cheap personal drone anyone can own and control with their cell phone.

Everyone best be on their Best Behavior from now on.

You never know when you'll do something that will get you fired or arrested, or just turn yourself into an Internet Meme for a few weeks.

At least the Useful Idiots from every side have a very limited attention span....


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


The time, 1989. The place, Suburbia, Middle America....

Special Service, an episode of "The New Twilight Zone" from the mid 80s.



For YEARS after this I was paranoid that there was a camera on me no matter where I was or what I did, even though it was not possible back then.



Now it is.



And we all accept it.

The only way out is to keep High Tech out of your house.

But if they push through things like Mandatory Voting, it won't be long before we have Mandatory TV screens, always on, always watching.




BTW, whoever wrote this episode should have gotten paid a million bucks for The Truman Show.



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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


LOL the Cable guy even got 2 weeks notice for being fired.

That's 1989.

For sure he would just be dead today.




But that was an alternate version of the story. I'll try to find the one that aired. When he realized everything was taped, he tried to talk his wife into coming with him and leave the country with the kids and she left him.



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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm seriously suffering from the Mandella Effect now, even though I don't believe in it.

The episode I just showed you is not the episode I saw. I watched it on youtube a few years ago as well, not just when I was 10 years old.

But I can't find the true episode.

This one had a "comic" feel throughout.



He was never told that his wife was in on it by an executive, and he confronted her. When he wouldn't agree to play along, she left with the kids.

This version is still somewhat scary, but not at all what it used to be. At the end, he seems to be living alone regardless, and he got a big check for his work so far.

I do recall him getting paid for his service, but I don't remember the Cable Guy pulling him into the closet a second time and saying that he's probably still on camera 24/7.

If anyone has the original taped, please let me know. I will continue to search for it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:19 PM

RIVERLOVE


Julian Assange has said that it was NOT Russia who provided all the Wikileaks e-mails on the DNC, Podesta, Donna Brazile, CNN, MSNBC, etc., etc. After the realities of Snowden and Manning's documents thefts, it's highly probable all the Wikileaks election stuff came from right here in the USA. But even if it did come from Russia, so damn what? Hey, hack away! Wikileak away! If that's the only way to get the truth anymore, so be it.

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Monday, January 9, 2017 8:29 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


At 9:30 AM the "Russian hacking" narrative will take center stage before a hearing of the Senate's Committee on Armed Services

Zero Hedge

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Intelligence Community Testifies On "Russian Hacking" Allegations - Live Feed

At 9:30 AM the "Russian hacking" narrative will take center stage before a hearing of the Senate's Committee on Armed Services which is chaired by the maverick himself, John McCain. The witnesses appearing before the committee will include James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, Marcel Lettre, Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, and Admiral Michael Rogers, Commander, United States Cyber Command.

Per a note earlier this morning from The Hill [4], there are five key things to watch for as the hearing progresses:

1. How many Republicans will criticize Trump’s stance? - Both John McCain, who chairs the committee, and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, another member of the panel, have been vocal in their criticism of Trump's unwillingness to blindly accept the rapidly evolving "facts" presented by the "intelligence community."

2. How strong is the evidence that Russia hacked the DNC? - After Julian Assange again appeared on Fox News earlier this week to confirm that his source was not Russia, or any "state actor" for that matter, the "intelligence community" once again changed its narrative [5] this morning to imply that Russia hacked the DNC and John Podesta then provided that information to Wikileaks via a third party. Well, how convenient is that? We look forward to receiving some concrete, tangible evidence from Mr. Clapper on this new assertion.

3. What evidence does the intelligence community have that Putin wanted to assist Trump? - The CIA, without supplying any evidence, reportedly believes that Russia was explicitly trying to help Trump — raising politically explosive questions about the degree to which it succeeded. Meanwhile, the White House has stopped short if that conclusion telling CNN that “President Obama and this administration is 100 percent certain in the role that Russia played in trying to sow discord and confusion and getting involved, through the cyber domain, in our electoral process." Will any actual evidence of collusion between Trump and Russian officials be presented?

4. How much will the public get to see — and when? - Will this whole charade just be more political rhetoric, which is the only thing the "intelligence community" has provided to date, or will actual tangible evidence finally be presented to support the "Russian hacking" narrative.

5. How much will either committee be able to do? - With a new administration taking over in 15 days will any of this actually matter or is it just a last-ditch effort to delegitimize the incoming administration?

Of course, Trump has maintained a healthy dose of skepticism of the intelligence community's "facts." In a series of tweets earlier this week, Trump accused intelligence officials of delaying his briefing until Friday in order to build a case against Russia. He also noted comments from Wikileaks founder Julian Assange who has repeatedly said that his leaked material was not provided by the Russian government.



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The "Russian Hacking" Story Changes Again


The "Russian Hacking" Story Changes Again

By Tyler Durden

Created 01/05/2017 - 07:26

Illigence officials face questions at a Senate hearing [4]that will be dominated by the intelligence community's assessment that Russia meddled in the presidential election to help Donald Trump win. Participating will be James R. Clapper, Jr., Director Of National Intelligence. Marcel J. Lettre II, Under Secretary Of Defense For Intelligence and Admiral Michael S. Rogers, USN, Commander, United States Cyber Command.

The Armed Services Committee's cyber threats hearing on Thursday comes a day before the president-elect is to be briefed by the CIA and FBI directors — along with the director of national intelligence — on the investigation into Russia's alleged hacking efforts. Trump has been deeply critical of their findings, even appearing to back controversial WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's contention that Russia did not provide him with hacked Democratic emails.

The committee's session is the first in a series aimed at investigating purported Russian cyber-attacks against U.S. interests and developing defenses sturdy enough to blunt future intrusions. "We will obviously be talking about the hacking, but the main thing is the whole issue of cybersecurity," the committee's Republican chairman, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, said ahead of the hearing. "Right now we have no policy, no strategy to counter cyberattacks."

More importantly, however, the hearing comes hours after Reuters reported [5]overnight that U.S. intelligence agencies obtained what they considered to be conclusive evidence after the November election that Russia provided hacked material from the Democratic National Committee to WikiLeaks. However, in the latest change of the narrative, this time the allegation is that Russia provided the hacked data through a third party, three U.S. officials said on Wednesday.

Wikieaks was quick to highlight that according to the report, US officials admitted that the Wikileaks "source" was not Russia, and that the goal posts now shifted to the source's source:

In keeping with the theme of providing no proof to the general public, the officials declined to describe the intelligence obtained about the involvement of a third-party in passing on leaked material to WikiLeaks, saying they did not want to reveal how the U.S. government had obtained the information. So just trust them, please.

The shift in the narrative is curious because as a reminder, officials had concluded "months earlier" that Russian intelligence agencies had directed the hacking, but had been less certain that they could prove Russia also had controlled the release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. It now appears that along with lack of evidence, the attention has shifted to an "intermediary" as being the responsible party .

In an interview with Fox News, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said he did not receive emails stolen from the DNC and top Hillary Clinton aide John Podesta from "a state party." Assange did not rule out the possibility that he got the material from a third party.

Trump on Wednesday sided with Assange and again questioned the U.S. intelligence community's conclusion that Russia tried to help his candidacy and hurt Clinton's.

Concern by U.S. officials over the hacking first spiked in August, when intelligence agencies concluded that Russian intelligence, with the direction of President Vladimir Putin, had been trying to disrupt and discredit the presidential and congressional elections. Obama in August rejected recommendations from some of his advisors to disclose the Russian link and take some limited covert action as "a shot across Putin's bow to knock it off," one official with knowledge of the matter said. Instead, Obama warned Putin privately, arguing that a similar private message to Chinese President Xi Jinping had reduced Chinese hacking into U.S. agencies and companies.

Ultimately, the additional intelligence informed U.S. President Barack Obama's decision to retaliate on Dec. 29 by expelling 35 suspected Russian spies and sanctioning two Russian spy agencies, four intelligence officers and three companies, a decision that capped four months of debate at the White House about how to respond.

So far not a shred of evidence has been provided confirming the Kremlin's involvement in the matter, aside from some Ukrainian malware code exposed in a 13-page joint DHS/FBI report which could be purchased by anyone online.

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Key Takeaways From Intelligence Community Testimony On Alleged "Russian Hacking"

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Created 01/05/2017 - 13:00

For those disaffected Hillary snowflakes looking for some level of concrete, tangible evidence from today's Senate testimony from the "intelligence community" that "Russian Hackers" purposefully colluded with President-elect Trump to steal the 2016 election from Clinton, we have some bad news: your desire for evidence required to start World War III over your candidate's loss has still not been fulfilled. Better luck next time.

As we suspected, today's testimony offered up by James Clapper and others of the "intelligence community" to the Senate's Armed Forces Committee has largely been nothing more than another smear campaign rife with political rhetoric but light on facts and tangible evidence.

With that, here are some of the notable one-liners from the day.

John McCain opened the hearing by noting that the goal of the day was not to "question the outcome of the presidential election" but to gather "facts" about what happened...even though no facts actually followed, but we digress.

“The goal...is not to question the outcome of the presidential election. Nor should it be. As both President Obama and President-elect Trump have said, our nation must move forward. But we must do so with full knowledge of the facts."

Senator Jack Reed (D-Rhode Island) used his time to call for the creation of a "special select Senate committee" to look further into the "Russian Hacking" narrative since it spills across the jurisdictional divide.

Meanwhile, 30 minutes into the hearing, James Clapper told the Senate committee that he had no intention of providing any meaningful new details regarding the "Russian Hacking" narrative but instead intended to just repeat the same useless political rhetoric that has been slowly leaked to the mainstream media over the past several weeks.

“We plan to brief the Congress and release an unclassified version of this report to the public next week with due deference to highly sensitive sources and methods ...

“We’re not really prepared to discuss this beyond standing by our earlier statements.”

Asked whether Julian Assange was credible, Clapper, who ironically has lost all credibility throughout this process with his rapidly evolving story line, was quick to confirm in the negative. Per The Hill [8]:

When asked if Assange was credible, Clapper responded with a very noticeably annoyed look, "Not in my view."

Navy Adm. Michael Rogers, commander of U.S. Cyber Command and director of National Security Agency responded, "I second those comments."

Meanwhile, other comments aimed at Julian Assange drew some expected criticism from Wikileaks: ...


Clapper, apparently interviewing for a commentator spot at MSNBC, warned that hacking wasn't the extent of the efforts by Russia to meddle in the 2016 election which also included coordinated efforts from RT, and other "fake news" outlets, to exploit any "fissure they could find in our tapestry."

“RT was very active in promoting a particular point of view, disparaging our system, our alleged hypocrisy about human rights, etc. Whatever crack, fissure they could find in our tapestry, they would exploit it,”

In an obvious slip up, Clapper admitted that the "Russian Hackers" didn't change the vote tallies...

“They didn’t change any vote tallies,” Clapper said, but “We have no way of gauging the impact that — certainly the Intelligence Community can’t — the choices that the electorate made. There’s no way for us to gauge.”

...and warned against retaliatory efforts saying that "we and other nations conduct similar acts of espionage."

"As I say, people in glass houses need to think about throwing rocks. This was an act of espionage. And we and other nations conduct similar acts of espionage."

Finally, we leave you with this parting clip from Senator Graham who vows to stop at nothing until he has his war with Russia.

* * *

For those who missed it, here is the intro the hearing that we wrote earlier this morning.

At 9:30 AM the "Russian hacking" narrative will take center stage before a hearing of the Senate's Committee on Armed Services which is chaired by the maverick himself, John McCain. The witnesses appearing before the committee will include James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, Marcel Lettre, Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, and Admiral Michael Rogers, Commander, United States Cyber Command.

Per a note earlier this morning from The Hill [20], there are five key things to watch for as the hearing progresses:

1. How many Republicans will criticize Trump’s stance? - Both John McCain, who chairs the committee, and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, another member of the panel, have been vocal in their criticism of Trump's unwillingness to blindly accept the rapidly evolving "facts" presented by the "intelligence community."

2. How strong is the evidence that Russia hacked the DNC? - After Julian Assange again appeared on Fox News earlier this week to confirm that his source was not Russia, or any "state actor" for that matter, the "intelligence community" once again changed its narrative [21] this morning to imply that Russia hacked the DNC and John Podesta then provided that information to Wikileaks via a third party. Well, how convenient is that? We look forward to receiving some concrete, tangible evidence from Mr. Clapper on this new assertion.

3. What evidence does the intelligence community have that Putin wanted to assist Trump? - The CIA, without supplying any evidence, reportedly believes that Russia was explicitly trying to help Trump — raising politically explosive questions about the degree to which it succeeded. Meanwhile, the White House has stopped short if that conclusion telling CNN that “President Obama and this administration is 100 percent certain in the role that Russia played in trying to sow discord and confusion and getting involved, through the cyber domain, in our electoral process." Will any actual evidence of collusion between Trump and Russian officials be presented?

4. How much will the public get to see — and when? - Will this whole charade just be more political rhetoric, which is the only thing the "intelligence community" has provided to date, or will actual tangible evidence finally be presented to support the "Russian hacking" narrative.

5. How much will either committee be able to do? - With a new administration taking over in 15 days will any of this actually matter or is it just a last-ditch effort to delegitimize the incoming administration?

Of course, Trump has maintained a healthy dose of skepticism of the intelligence community's "facts." In a series of tweets earlier this week, Trump accused intelligence officials of delaying his briefing until Friday in order to build a case against Russia. He also noted comments from Wikileaks founder Julian Assange who has repeatedly said that his leaked material was not provided by the Russian government.



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Trump Asks "What Is Going On" After It Emerges Democrats Refused FBI Access To Hacked Servers

By Tyler Durden

Created 01/06/2017 - 09:37

Closing off his tweeting on Thursday evening, the president-elect questioned why the Democratic National Committee did not reportedly cooperate with the FBI's investigation of hacks into its servers; a hack which the US intelligence agencies were quick to conclude was the action of Russia despite, allegedly, not having seen all the evidence.

As Bloomberg reports [4], while the DNC says the FBI never requested access to its servers after they were breached, a senior law enforcement official said the FBI repeatedly asked for access "only to be rebuffed." If the FBI itself never examined DNC servers, Trump wrote on Twitter, "how and why are they so sure about hacking"?

"What is going on?" Trump added.

The FBI Thursday released a statement confirming Trump’s claim.

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," the agency said. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."

Earlier in the week DNC spokesman Eric Walker told BuzzFeed this week that while the DNC had several meetings with FBI agents, FBI officials "never requested access" to DNC servers.

“The DNC had several meetings with representatives of the FBI’s Cyber Division and its Washington (D.C.) Field Office, the Department of Justice’s National Security Division, and U.S. Attorney’s Offices,” he said, adding, “the FBI never requested access to the DNC’s computer servers.”

And according to BuzzFeed, no U.S. intelligence agency has done an independent forensics analysis on the servers. Instead, the FBI has relied on an analysis from CrowdStrike, the third-party security firm that investigated the DNC breach.

However, as The Hill notes [7], a senior law enforcement official on Thursday disputed the DNC's characterization that the FBI never requested access to the DNC servers.

Separately, at the same time Trump criticized leaks to several media outlets detailing contents of a classified report on alleged Russian hacking of the presidential election. The leaks came before Trump’s own briefing on those details by the intelligence community. The 50-page report was delivered to US President Barack Obama on Thursday, and is to be delivered to President-elect Donald Trump on Friday by top intelligence officials, including Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and CIA Director John Brennan, the Washington Post reports, one of several outlets that were given priority over the president-elect in learning the details of the document.

CNN and NBC News also reported on the classified report, sparking outrage from Trump.

“How did NBC get ‘an exclusive look into the top secret report he (Obama) was presented?’ Who gave them this report and why? Politics!” Trump said in a tweet.

According to the reports, US spies cited as evidence of Russian interference intercepted communications between Russian officials who called Trump’s victory a geopolitical success for Russia. The report also said that US intelligence identified the ‘go-betweens’ who allegedly handed over stolen Democratic Party emails to WikiLeaks. The US media did not name those individuals or explain how they were linked to the Russian government.

Many Russian officials made no secret of their preference for a Trump presidency after his surprise win in November. The Russian parliament even stood and applauded at the news. The president-elect is perceived by many as capable of restarting relations with Russia with a clean slate, while his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton was blamed for policies which in part have led to numerous conflicts between Russia and the US.

Early this morning, Wikileaks also chimed in on the topic, not surprisingly taking Trump's side.


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Here Is The US Intel Report Accusing Putin Of Helping Trump Win The Election By "Discrediting" Hillary Clinton

By Tyler Durden

Created 01/06/2017 - 16:07


The farce is complete.

One week after a joint FBI/DHS report was released [4], supposedly meant to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Russia intervened in the US presidential election, and thus served as a diplomatic basis for Obama's expulsion of 35 diplomats, yet which merely confirmed that a Ukrainian piece of malware which could be purchased by anyone, was responsible for spoofing various email accounts including that of the DNC and John Podesta, moments ago US intelligence agencies released a more "authoritative", 25-page report, titled "Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections [5]", and which not surprisingly only serves to validate the media narrative, by concluding that Russian President Vladimir Putin 'ordered' an effort to influence U.S. presidential election.

Specifically, the report concludes the following:

We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.

What proof is there? Sadly, again, none. However, as the intelligence agencies state, "We have high confidence in these judgments"... just like they had high confidence that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

And while the report is severely lacking in any evidence, it is rich in judgments, such as the following:

· We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments.

· We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment.

At this point a quick detour, because the intel agencies responsible for drafting the report then explain how "confident" they are: "CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence."

What do these distinctions mean?

· High confidence generally indicates judgments based on high-quality information, and/or the nature of the issue makes it possible to render a solid judgment. However, high confidence judgments still carry a risk of being wrong.

· Moderate confidence generally means credibly sourced and plausible information, but not of sufficient quality or corroboration to warrant a higher level of confidence.

In other words, while not carrying the infamous DHS disclaimer according to which last week's entire joint FBI/DHS report is likely garbage, the US intel agencies admit they may well be "wrong."

Going back to the report, we then read:

· Moscow’s approach evolved over the course of the campaign based on Russia’s understanding of the electoral prospects of the two main candidates. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election, the Russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining her future presidency.

· Further information has come to light since Election Day that, when combined with Russian behavior since early November 2016, increases our confidence in our assessments of Russian motivations and goals.

· Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.” Russia, like its Soviet predecessor, has a history of conducting covert influence campaigns focused on US presidential elections that have used intelligence officers and agents and press placements to disparage candidates perceived as hostile to the Kremlin.

· Russia’s intelligence services conducted cyber operations against targets associated with the 2016 US presidential election, including targets associated with both major US political parties.

· We assess with high confidence that Russian military intelligence (General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate or GRU) used the Guccifer 2.0 persona and DCLeaks.com to release US victim data obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets and relayed material to WikiLeaks.

· Russian intelligence obtained and maintained access to elements of multiple US state or local electoral boards. DHS assesses that the types of systems Russian actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying.

· Russia’s state-run propaganda machine contributed to the influence campaign by serving as a platform for Kremlin messaging to Russian and international audiences.

· We assess Moscow will apply lessons learned from its Putin-ordered campaign aimed at the US presidential election to future influence efforts worldwide, including against US allies and their election processes.

Or, as some have stated, just a regurgitation of already existing opinions and absolutely zero facts.

Some more highlights:

· Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.”

· We assess Russian intelligence services collected against the US primary campaigns, think tanks, and lobbying groups they viewed as likely to shape future US policies. In July 2015, Russian intelligence gained access to Democratic National Committee (DNC) networks and maintained that access until at least June 2016.

· Russian Propaganda Efforts. Russia’s state-run propaganda machine—comprised of its domestic media apparatus, outlets targeting global audiences such as RT and Sputnik, and a network of quasi-government trolls—contributed to the influence campaign by serving as a platform for Kremlin messaging to Russian and international audiences. State-owned Russian media made increasingly favorable comments about President-elect Trump as the 2016 US general and primary election campaigns progressed while consistently offering negative coverage of Secretary Clinton.

Then here is the direct accusation of Wikileaks:

We assess with high confidence that the GRU relayed material it acquired from the DNC and senior Democratic officials to WikiLeaks. Moscow most likely chose WikiLeaks because of its self-proclaimed reputation for authenticity. Disclosures through WikiLeaks did not contain any evident forgeries.

Oddly enough, there is nothing in the report about the latest narrative change of "go-betweens" linking Putin with Wikileaks, but it has a whole lot of "judgments" on RT...

· RT’s coverage of Secretary Clinton throughout the US presidential campaign was consistently negative and focused on her leaked e-mails and accused her of corruption, poor physical and mental health, and ties to Islamic extremism. Some Russian officials echoed Russian lines for the influence campaign that Secretary Clinton’s election could lead to a war between the United States and Russia.

· In August, Kremlin-linked political analysts suggested avenging negative Western reports on Putin by airing segments devoted to Secretary Clinton’s alleged health problems.

· On 6 August, RT published an English-language video called “Julian Assange Special: Do WikiLeaks Have the E-mail That’ll Put Clinton in Prison?” and an exclusive interview with Assange entitled “Clinton and ISIS Funded by the Same Money.” RT’s most popular video on Secretary Clinton, “How 100% of the Clintons’ ‘Charity’ Went to…Themselves,” had more than 9 million views on social media platforms. RT’s most popular English language video about the President-elect, called “Trump Will Not Be Permitted To Win,” featured Assange and had 2.2 million views.

... and "trolls." And this is where it gets really funny:

· Russia used trolls as well as RT as part of its influence efforts to denigrate Secretary Clinton. This effort amplified stories on scandals about Secretary Clinton and the role of WikiLeaks in the election campaign.

· The likely financier of the so-called Internet Research Agency of professional trolls located in Saint Petersburg is a close Putin ally with ties to Russian intelligence.

· A journalist who is a leading expert on the Internet Research Agency claimed that some social media accounts that appear to be tied to Russia’s professional trolls—because they previously were devoted to supporting Russian actions in Ukraine—started to advocate for President-elect Trump as early as December 2015.

Then there are pearls like this, exposing the Russian "anti-fracking troll army" whose every move is orchestrated by the RT masterminds:

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... who are to blame for everything that is wrong with US democracy because they have more YouTube watchers:

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One almost wonders: is RT's audience really that much greater than the that of NBC, ABC, Fox, CBS, MSNBC, CNN etc to overpower all of US media?

That's rhetorical.

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While readers can make up their own mind about the report, here is Glenn Greenwald's quick take:


Meanwhile, in Russia:





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Trump Confirms "No Effect On The Outcome Of The Election" Following Intelligence Briefing

By Tyler Durden

Created 01/06/2017 - 15:25

President-elect Trump has issued a statement following his briefing with various intelligence agencies over the Russian hacking allegations, seemingly rejecting the Democrats' charges that it was the Russians alone and that it had any effect on the outcome of the election.

Additionally, Trump promised to appoint a team to give him a plan to combat cyber attacks within 90 days of taking office.

Full Statement:

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Not quite the "stunning" reaction that Nancy Pelosi had.

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[5] https://twitter.com/brianefallon/status/817457828856217601
[6] https://t.co/QNgQ0WRqFC
[7] https://twitter.com/alinaselyukh/status/817458452842872832
[8] https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/817455964437803008







How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Monday, January 9, 2017 9:01 PM

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No, Putin didn’t hack the power grid; journalists need to take a breath and get it right

Washington Post publishes an irresponsible hack report, making clear how little journalists understand this stuff
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Topics: Donald Trump, Elections 2016, Russia, Russia Vermont, Russia Vermont power, Russian hack, Vladimir Putin, Technology News, News, Politics News
No, Putin didn't hack the power grid; journalists need to take a breath and get it right(Credit: Getty/Peter Muhly/AP)

Under the constant pressure of deadlines while facing a multiplicity of widely differing subjects, journalists often don’t have the time or ability to deeply understand the things they write about. That’s particularly true about arcane areas like foreign affairs, technology and science.

Unfortunately for the public, the story of what really happened with the Russian Federation and the 2016 presidential election is centered on these areas about which most mainstream journalists know little. That ignorance is fast becoming dangerous to the American public as false stories have begun spreading like wildfire.

On New Year’s Eve, the Washington Post set off an erroneous news conflagration as it claimed that Russian “black hats” had successfully breached America’s electrical grid, the internal network that enables many power companies to transmit electricity to each other and to their customers.

“Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid through a utility in Vermont, officials say,” read the headline on the Post’s report.

The story caught fire across news outlets. According to Google News, there were nearly 400,000 results for the query “russia vermont power.” Google Trends, the search giant’s tool for measuring public interest in any search term, showed a hundredfold increase in requests for “russia vermont” over the past few days. Instead of wondering which celebrities would have drunken meltdowns on New Year’s Eve — Don Lemon and Mariah Carey did not disappoint — many Americans ended up wondering if Vladimir Putin was going to cut off the power to their homes.

Those worries were completely baseless, however. The Post had been misled by government officials. As it turned out, a laptop computer belonging to Burlington Electric had been infected with some malware that apparently originated in Russia several years earlier.

The infected computer, moreover, was not connected to the power company’s electrical system. Apparently the Post ran its story before obtaining confirmation from Burlington Electric about whether or not that was true.

The spyware that was on the power company laptop, called Neutrino, is common and has existed for years, and is used by hackers across the globe. As the Post was forced to report Tuesday, the IP address with which the infected computer had been communicating is not necessarily one involved in nefarious activity.

In other words, the Post’s entire story about Russian hacking into America’s electrical grid ended being unprovable at best and completely false at worst.

The episode is amusing in a sense, but is also destructive to American-Russian relations and to the credibility of the news media, which was already at record-low levels. In a September Gallup poll, just 32 percent of the public said they had a “fair” or “great deal” of trust in the mainstream media.

Despite their skepticism about the media in general, however, many members of the public continue to believe false theories about the recent hacks of the Democratic National Committee. According to a survey conducted by the Economist and YouGov, 52 percent of self-identified Democrats believe that Russian hackers altered election results to help Donald Trump defeat Hillary Clinton. No government officials or prominent Democrats, Clinton included, have made such an allegation. President Obama and other officials have explicitly denied it.

Some of that confusion is caused by journalists who have unintentionally elided the important distinction between the allegation that Russia hacked the Democratic Party’s computer systems and the far-fetched conspiracy theory that Russians altered the vote totals. The AFP wire service provided a terrible example of this when it ran a story about sanctions that President Obama announced on Dec. 29. According to AFP, the sanctions were in retaliation for “vote hacking.” (The news organization subsequently corrected its headline.)

Even legitimate stories have been botched by both journalists and government officials. As I wrote last week, the October report that the Obama administration released to the public last Thursday about the allegations contained essentially no evidence supportint the allegations that Russia was involved in hacking Democratic computer systems. That isn’t to say that there is no evidence – there is some, actually — but the public analysis provided by the Feds thus far has been insufficient. Unfortunately, many journalists and politicians lacking in technical knowledge (especially of the center-left variety) have misinterpreted the report as being conclusive.

These governmental and journalistic failures have fueled widespread public confusion about this topic. Given their distrust of the media and partisan inclinations, many Republican voters seem to want to ignore the topic all together. There is one subset of Republicans that is obsessed with the hacking allegations, however: the same hawkish neoconservatives who caused the fiasco of Iraq War. This group, led by Sens. Lindsey Graham and John McCain, is using its public positions to foment hysteria, just as it did in 2002. And the nation’s left-leaning journalists are enabling them just as they did before.

Besides taking the time to get the facts, the media also need to provide more perspective about the fact that cyber-espionage is not an isolated or rare event. In today’s always-on internet world, governments are constantly trying to hack each other. In 2013, it was revealed that at least five different nations — the U.S., the U.K., China, North Korea and Russia — had figured out how to eavesdrop on German chancellor Angela Merkel’s smartphone. Former CIA contractor Edward Snowden revealed several intensive NSA operations to spy on various countries, particularly China. Likewise, China and other countries have been actively trying to hack into American computer systems.

Furthermore, the United States is not necessarily entitled to play the role of innocent victim especially since, in November, the Independent newspaper in Britain claimed the U.S. had hacked into Russia’s power grid and was threatening to sabotage it if the Russians interfered with the presidential election.

Public officials and the media owe it to the public to take the time to get these complicated issues right and avoid promoting false information. Everyone agrees that “fake news” websites spreading outright fabrications don’t serve the public. But false or misleading stories promulgated by otherwise legitimate news sources could be even more dangerous.




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This report includes an assessment drafted and coordinated among the Central intelligence Agency (CIA), the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and the National Security Agency (NSA).
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Hillary ran against Putin .... AND LOST.

heh heh heh

She stood up a carboard-Putin as boogeyman and thought she could win by knocking that down. Turns out, she lost against a piece of cardboard.

And your "sources" are SO unreliable they completely missed what was going on in front of them, and you- like the dupe that you are- believed them. And STILL believe them.

heh heh heh



First you deny or refuse to acknowledge that Putin was trying to interfere with the election. Now you connect Hilary’s defeat with him being successful. Russia is too puny too pull that off. Kind of like a nat on an elephant.

Not my sources SIG. There is plenty of documentation here of me talking about the anger throughout the Appalachians and Rust Belt. Those very same people who have been disenfranchised voted to throw the bums out. It’s that simple. It was also many of the same voting districts across America that voted for Obama that helped put Trump over the top. So you can rule out bigotry as well. He got fifty nine million votes. Certainly not that many racists in this country.

Clinton lost because of economics. Trump ruled the first half hour to forty minutes of the first debate because he talked about ending free trade. Clinton never picked up on that. All she kept offering was more of the same. Of course there’s more but I will debate that with the honest brokers on this site. Certainly not the dishonest ones like you.



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