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Tuesday, October 4, 2016 4:38 AM

SIGNYM

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"People have a right to understand who it is they’re electing," said Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, warning that the information they had received comprised of “a variety of different types of documents, from different types of institutions that are associated with the election campaign, some quite unexpected angles that are quite interesting, some even entertaining.”

Julian Assange, who has lived in the Ecuadorean Embassy in London for five years as officials in Sweden have sought him on criminal charges, is set to deliver his eagerly anticipated address via videolink at the Volksbuhne Theater in Berlin to mark WikiLeaks’ 10th anniversary starting around 11am CET.

Assange canceled an earlier plan to deliver the address from the balcony of the Ecuadorian embassy in London due to security concerns. Some believe the video announcement by the WikiLeaks founder could be an "October surprise" geared towards the U.S. presidential election. Supporters of GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump have said they believe the announcement will be damaging to the candidacy of Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.

“I don’t want to give it away,” Assange told Fox News Channel’s Megyn Kelly in August, when he indicated he had a major scoop that could influence the race. “But it’s a variety of documents, from different types of institutions that are associated with the election campaign, some quite unexpected angles, some quite interesting, some even entertaining.”


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-04/julian-assange-talks-live-wik
ileaks-10-year-anniversary-live-stream

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Tuesday, October 4, 2016 6:15 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Suppose to come out Monday, didn't, and now... ?

I'm only half way following this. If this is a major over hyped theatrical nothing, then maybe he needs to just go away.

Talkin' ain't doin'.

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Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:46 AM

SIGNYM

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WTH, Julian?

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Julian Assange Disappoints, Fails To Reveal Material Information At Wikileaks Press Conference

In what was a disappointment for anyone hoping for "devastating" disclosures, Julian Assange today held off releasing information about the US elections or Hillary Clinton, despite widespread expectation that he was poised to make a major release. The WikiLeaks founder said the organization would publish around one million documents related to the U.S. election and three governments, but denied the release was aimed at damaging Hillary Clinton.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-04/julian-assange-talks-live-wik
ileaks-10-year-anniversary-live-stream


It's interesting that they have a million documents (Where did they get them from?) but like a lot of Wikileaks releases, it will be up to the press, interest groups, and the general population to parse thru them and find the interesting stuff.

Way to go, Assange.


Well, if anything DOES get found, I'll bring it here.

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Tuesday, October 4, 2016 1:57 PM

THGRRI


Quote SIG

(I'll change the title if anything shows up)


You always do

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Tuesday, October 4, 2016 5:45 PM

WHOZIT


When the time comes can you change it to "Assauge dumps hot steaming pile of shit on Hillary" Thanks you're the best.


XOXOXO

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Friday, October 7, 2016 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
WTH, Julian?



Yeah. That was freaking weird. You didn't happen to catch the Infowars coverage of this "release", did you Sigs?

I watched from about 2:15 to after 5:00 AM CST and nothing happened. The first hour and a half was a bunch of people from his organization speaking and a few videos shown. It reminded me of stupid mandatory meetings from HR we were required to sit through every six months at the last good job I had.

Then when JA finally took the "stage" they were speaking to him on a screen and they didn't have their audio shit together. He spoke for more than an hour and I didn't understand a damn word he said. At one point he held up a book he was selling. It was like watching a really terrible infomercial.

The only redeeming thing at all was that I was watching it on Infowars and got to see a sleep deprived Alex Jones turn on him after calling him a True Patriot only hours before in Mystery Science Theater 3000 fashion. I think my favorite part was when he started singing Luda's "Move Bitch!".....



You are aware, however, that on the same day Guccifer 2.0 released (at least part) of 860MB of data that he allegedly hacked from the Clinton Foundation servers, aren't you?

Among these documents released and being released are alleged solid proof of Pay to Play and also proof that agreements were made with even heads of Google to filter search results of the election to skew in favor of Hillary.

Who knows.... Even though the MSM hasn't said a damn word about it, I just found this article on the front page of Yahoo a few hours ago: https://www.yahoo.com/news/watchdog-group-accuses-clinton-campaign-of-
election-law-violations-214054242.html


I know Yahoo ain't Google, but it's the first time I've seen a potentially negative thing said about Hillary on the front page of anything "Left of Crazy" since she won the primary.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 7, 2016 5:22 PM

THGRRI


Here's your October surprise SIG. Sorry 1kiki, not what you were hoping for. Game set match...

Trump was recorded saying lewd things about women in 2005

“I did try and f--- her. She was married,” Trump says.

Trump continues: “And I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said, ‘I’ll show you where they have some nice furniture.’”

“I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married,” Trump says. “Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/watch-donald-trump-recor
ded-having-extremely-lewd-conversation-about-women-in-2005/2016/10/07/3bf16d1e-8caf-11e6-8cdc-4fbb1973b506_video.html


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Saturday, October 8, 2016 6:13 AM

SIGNYM

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Wikileaks Releases Hillary's Paid Wall Street Speech Transcripts: Hundreds Of "Sensitive" Excerpts

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While the media is transfixed with the just released Washington Post leak of a private Donald Trump conversation from 2005 in which he was speaking "lewdly" about women, and for which he has apologized, roughly at the same time, Wikileaks released part one of what it dubbed the "Podesta emails", which it describes as "a series on deals involving Hillary Clinton campaign Chairman John Podesta. Mr Podesta is a long-term associate of the Clintons and was President Bill Clinton's Chief of Staff from 1998 until 2001." ...

While the underlying story in this specific case involves the alleged kickbacks received by the Clinton Foundation from the Russian government-controlled "Uranium One" a story which has been profiled previously by the NYT, and about which Wikileaks adds that "as Russian interests gradually took control of Uranium One millions of dollars were donated to the Clinton Foundation between 2009 and 2013 from individuals directly connected to the deal including the Chairman of Uranium One, Ian Telfer.

Although Mrs Clinton had an agreement with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors to the Clinton Foundation, the contributions from the Chairman of Uranium One were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons" ...


... what caught our attention is an email from Tony Carr, a Research Director at Hillary for America, in which he lay outs hundreds of excerpts from the heretofore missing transcripts of Hillary Clinton's infamous Wall Street speeches, with an emphasis on those which should be flagged as they may be damaging to Hillary.

====

Some comments by Hillary Clinton:

"I'm kind of far removed” from the struggles of the middle class “because the life I've lived and the economic, you know, fortunes that my husband and I now enjoy.”

Joked that if Lloyd Blankfein wanted to run for office, he should “start running a soup kitchen somewhere.

My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere.”



One of my personal favorites:

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“But if everybody's watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So, you need both a public and a private position.”

TRANSLATION: Because I have to LIE TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT OUR BACKROOM DEALS, I'm here to reassure you and let you know not to pay attention to what I say to the little people out there.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-07/wikileaks-releases-hundreds-e
xceprts-hillary-clintons-wall-street-speech-transcripts



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Saturday, October 8, 2016 9:02 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Wikileaks Releases Hillary's Paid Wall Street Speech Transcripts: Hundreds Of "Sensitive" Excerpts


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-07/wikileaks-releases-hundreds-e
xceprts-hillary-clintons-wall-street-speech-transcripts





Your source is zerohedge SIG. They are definitely unreliable. Just can't stay away from propaganda sites can you?

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Saturday, October 8, 2016 11:28 AM

SIGNYM

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Well, there you go again: attacking the source when you don't like the content.

Zerohedge not only contains Assange's release ... in fact, it links to the entire content ... it also carries an article about Trump's latest embarrassment.

But curiously ... or not so curiously .... the mainstream western press, while bannering Trump's "locker talk" about a woman, isn't carrying any of Assange's releases. Bias much? Ergo, THEY are propaganda sites, because they clearly favor of Hillary.

And I know how much you love THOSE sites, therefore you're the propaganda-lover.

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Saturday, October 8, 2016 1:47 PM

THGRRI


Quote SIG

Well, there you go again: attacking the source when you don't like the content.

Zerohedge not only contains Assange's release ... in fact, it links to the entire content ...
But curiously ... or not so curiously .... the mainstream western press, while bannering Trump's "locker talk" about a woman, isn't carrying any of Assange's releases. Bias much? Ergo, THEY are propaganda sites, because they clearly favor of Hillary.


Response Me

I see the Times suggests AMY CHOZICK, NICHOLAS CONFESSORE and MICHAEL BARBARO are crediting some of Assange's leaks Friday to their story on Clintons speeches to wall street. There are no bombshells there SIG. I don't know why you think there would be. I also look forward to comparing what you posted about that as fact, and what the actual story reports.


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Saturday, October 8, 2016 1:52 PM

THGRRI


Lewd Donald Trump Tape Is a Breaking Point for Many in the G.O.P.

In an extraordinary statement from a running mate, Gov. Mike Pence of Indiana indicated that he still supported Mr. Trump, but that he was highly displeased with what he heard on the video.

“As a husband and father, I was offended by the words and actions described by Donald Trump in the 11-year-old video released yesterday,” Mr. Pence said. “I do not condone his remarks and cannot defend them.”

Representative Charles Dent, Republican of Pennsylvania, said on Saturday that the party, which has been helping the Trump campaign financially and organizationally, should no longer “defend the indefensible.” He urged the party to abandon Mr. Trump if he refuses to withdraw and focus solely on electing the rest of the ticket.

“The priority for the Republican Party has to be protecting our congressional majorities,” he said.

Something I just posted in the prediction thread myself.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/us/politics/donald-trump-campaign.ht
ml?_r=0



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Monday, October 10, 2016 2:36 PM

SIGNYM

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The founder of the resource "WikiLeaks", Julian Assange, has stated that he has evidence linking the US Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton to the ISIS terrorist group.

According to Assange, Clinton was not only in contact with the terrorists while serving as US Secretary of State, but she also authorized the sending of American arms to Qatar, where they were delivered to Libyan rebels to overthrow Muammar Gaddafi.

Clinton tried to implement the same scheme in Syria. Her actions resulted in weapons and money contributing to the terrorists' attempt to overthrow Bashar al-Assad.

Back in 2013, Clinton denied these allegations under oath.
WikiLeaks promises to reveal that this oath was a lie.


http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/10/wikileaks-clinton-armed-isis.html

So we'll get to see if this is much ado about nothing.



Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Monday, October 10, 2016 3:01 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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The founder of the resource "WikiLeaks", Julian Assange, has stated that he has evidence linking the US Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton to the ISIS terrorist group.

According to Assange, Clinton was not only in contact with the terrorists while serving as US Secretary of State, but she also authorized the sending of American arms to Qatar, where they were delivered to Libyan rebels to overthrow Muammar Gaddafi.

Clinton tried to implement the same scheme in Syria. Her actions resulted in weapons and money contributing to the terrorists' attempt to overthrow Bashar al-Assad.

Back in 2013, Clinton denied these allegations under oath.
WikiLeaks promises to reveal that this oath was a lie.


http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/10/wikileaks-clinton-armed-isis.html

So we'll get to see if this is much ado about nothing.



Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?



First SIG I would ask again. Who are you afraid Hillary will start a war with?

Second, your source is Russian comrade. And I suggest any one who follows your link click on the home button and see for themselves how your source fabricates it's own facts.

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Monday, October 10, 2016 3:03 PM

SIGNYM

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Nobody gives a fuck what you say, THUGR. Everyone knows you're a troglodyte and a troll, who wouldn't know a fact if it landed on you from 10 stories up.



Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Monday, October 10, 2016 4:56 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Nobody gives a fuck what you say, THUGR. Everyone knows you're a troglodyte and a troll, who wouldn't know a fact if it landed on you from 10 stories up.

Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?



Why won't you answer the question comrade? Who are you worried about Hillary starting a war with? It's your signature and yet you won't answer the question.

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Monday, October 10, 2016 5:02 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Does 'who' matter?




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Monday, October 10, 2016 5:38 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Does 'who' matter?




I asked a question based on SIG's signature. Who is she worried about Hillary starting a war with? Shit, you'd think she could answer that. The fact that she won't makes you wonder why she has the signature she has. She must not even believe it herself.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:08 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


If you think your question was based on Sig's signature, then your grasp of English is so bad I don't think I could even explain to you how it is that you're wrong.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Tuesday, October 11, 2016 9:39 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
If you think your question was based on Sig's signature, then your grasp of English is so bad I don't think I could even explain to you how it is that you're wrong.




SIG's signature

Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?


So I'll ask again. SIG, who are you worried about Hillary starting a war with. It's a simple question.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:29 PM

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So I'll ask again. SIG, who are you worried about Hillary starting a war with. It's a simple question.
It's a stupid question.

There hasn't been a war that Hillary hasn't been on-board with. So whoever Hillary starts ANOTHER war with (and it could be any number of targets, like Uzbekistan, or another stab at Turkey, or pushing a "no fly zone" in Syria, or trying another bite of the Georgian apple) it will probably end up being with Russia. And since Russia has nuclear capability but has a smaller military, and since Putin has openly warned everyone who will care to listen that THIS time, America isn't going to safely hide behind two oceans, the thought of nuclear apocalypse comes to mind. Bullying and bluffing Russia with the assumption that WE'RE more willing to blow up the world than they are is not only morally repugnant (yanno, like you) it is extremely dangerous.

To us.

And I know that you're going to go off about the "Russian agenda" again, and yet you have NOT ONCE been able to answer the following questions:

WHAT ARE AMERICA'S INTERESTS and
HOW DOES RUSSIA THREATEN THEM?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60755&p=2


I'm all for defending America's interests, but you don't even have a clue what they are. Until you figure out what you think should be defended, just STFU with your pointless blatherings and insinuations.



Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Tuesday, October 11, 2016 2:17 PM

SIGNYM

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Hillary Confirms Saudi Arabia, Qatar Fund ISIS In Leaked Email (2015)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-11/hillary-confirms-saudi-arabia
-qatar-are-funding-isis-leaked-email



And despite knowing this ...


Saudi Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Department (2015)
Quote:

Even by the standards of arms deals between the United States and Saudi Arabia, this one was enormous. A consortium of American defense contractors led by Boeing would deliver $29 billion worth of advanced fighter jets to the United States' oil-rich ally in the Middle East.

http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hil
lary-clintons-state-department-1934187






Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:06 PM

THGRRI


Quote SIG

It's a stupid question.

There hasn't been a war that Hillary hasn't been on-board with. So whoever Hillary starts ANOTHER war with (and it could be any number of targets, like Uzbekistan, or another stab at Turkey, or pushing a "no fly zone" in Syria, or trying another bite of the Georgian apple) it will probably end up being with Russia. And since Russia has nuclear capability but has a smaller military, and since Putin has openly warned everyone who will care to listen that THIS time, America isn't going to safely hide behind two oceans, the thought of nuclear apocalypse comes to mind. Bullying and bluffing Russia with the assumption that WE'RE more willing to blow up the world than they are is not only morally repugnant (yanno, like you) it is extremely dangerous. To us.

And I know that you're going to go off about the "Russian agenda" again, and yet you have NOT ONCE been able to answer the following questions: WHAT ARE AMERICA'S INTERESTS and HOW DOES RUSSIA THREATEN THEM?


My Response

Well I started by posting this SIG because you wanted to discuss Russia without discussing Russia.

An interesting way to frame the discussion. Why are you so keen to have a 'sensible' talk about Russia that exclude Russia's actions in Syria and Ukraine, its increasingly draconian laws, corrupt oligarchy, tanking economy, and the growing list of Putin enemies (journalists, dissidents, defectors, rival politicians) getting bumped off?

Then I posted this

What Russia is doing in Syria is threatening the borders of Europe (NATO). Destabilizing NATO definitely affects us. How are they doing this? They are bombing hospitals and civilians indiscriminately and forcing millions of Syrians to migrate there. They are also starving Syrian’s in an attempt to either force them out or into capitulation. Women and children SIG. That’s why Russia bombed the UN convoy. The convoy would have taken the denial of food and medicine off the table as Russian weapons of war. These migrants are destabilizing the surrounding areas as well. Which is a direct threat to us.

And yes SIG the Russians do represent a threat to our internal security. They continually get caught hacking into our corporations and defense industries.

They are also a threat to our allies which means they threaten to involve us in a war that way. And they threaten and invade their neighbors which is another way to cause a world war. I'd say that means they are a threat to us.

So Yes SIG I and others answered your question. Mine is much simpler and finally you answered it. Not that I didn't already know the answer which is why I kept pushing for you to admit it. Its Russia comrade. You’re afraid of how Hillary will crack down on your homeland of either choice or desire. Everything you mentioned as a concern would come about from pushback against Russia. Well comrade, it’s coming.


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Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:57 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


Hillary Confirms Saudi Arabia, Qatar Fund ISIS In Leaked Email (2015)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-11/hillary-confirms-saudi-arabia
-qatar-are-funding-isis-leaked-email



And despite knowing this ...


Saudi Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Department (2015)
Quote:

Even by the standards of arms deals between the United States and Saudi Arabia, this one was enormous. A consortium of American defense contractors led by Boeing would deliver $29 billion worth of advanced fighter jets to the United States' oil-rich ally in the Middle East.

http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hil
lary-clintons-state-department-1934187







First comrade, your source zerohedge is bigoted and unreliable. Second, I am shocked SIG, shocked, we sold weapons to our allies in the middle east. Really SIG?

You really need to make you arguments to fourth graders SIG. Every ones knows DASH is made up of professed Sunni. Some of us here know and have discussed Saudi Arabia's complex social programs to distribute its oil wealth amongst its citizens. And then how some of those funds get passed on again, sure. It’s in that process that funding may find its way to DASH. It is also common knowledge that Saudi Arabia funds extremists in order to enlist them into the fight against Iranian (Shia) and Russian aggression against Sunni interests in the Middle East. Even suggesting Hillary knowingly supports DASH just makes you someone who conspires and trolls on behalf of Russia.

It’s obvious SIG the complexities of dealing with our Middle Eastern allies or what the consequences of turning our backs on them might be, is beyond your ability to comprehend. I suggest you stop posting about it. Sorry, no got ya here.


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Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:14 PM

THGRRI



Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just to memorialize that THUGR is pro-war. He doesn't care for what, as long as it's war.

THUGR: The typical Hillary supporter?



This is why our Russian trolls SIG and 1kiki are so intent on disparaging Hillary and promoting Trump. It is also why the Wikipedia releases about Hillary cannot be trusted as truthful and not doctored. And I would add why 6ix is little more than a puppet and stooge.

The video shows Trump lying and spreading Putin's propaganda. The guy who actually wrote the email Trump reads and attributes to someone else comes from Putin's propaganda machine and the way it is represented is a lie.





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Sunday, October 16, 2016 11:30 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Clinton Foundation May Be In Ethics Breach With Bill's $1 Million "Present" From State Sponsor Of Terrorism

Much has been said about an April 2012 email disclosed by WikiLeaks, in which Amitabh Desai, the Clinton Foundation’s director of foreign policy, writes to senior Clinton Foundation officials explaining the “summary of key points” from his meetings with the “Ambassadors from Qatar, Brazil, Peru, Malawi, and Rwanda, in Washington, DC.”

Describing his meeting with the ambassador of Qatar, Desai wrote, “Would like to see WJC [William Jefferson Clinton] ‘for five minutes’ in NYC, to present $1 million check that Qatar promised for WJC’s birthday in 2011.”

... Hillary Clinton promised the U.S. government that while she served as secretary of state the foundation would not accept new funding from foreign governments without seeking clearance from the State Department's ethics office. The agreement was designed to dispel concerns that U.S. foreign policy could be swayed by donations to the foundation.

However, and where things get awkward for Clinton, is that the State Department has said it cannot cite any instances of its ethics officials reviewing or approving new donations from foreign governments to the foundation while Clinton served as the country's top diplomat from 2009 until 2013, suggesting the foundation may be in breach of its ethics agreement over the not immaterial donation of $1 million from a foreign state.

... Craig Minassian, a foundation spokesman, declined to confirm to Reuters if Qatar gave the $1 million described in the 2012 email. Even if it had, he said he questioned whether the money would be considered a "material increase."

Actually, since according to the Foundation's own website, Qatar gave anywhere between $1 million and $5 million, in the best case scenario the donation would be a rather material 20% increase to Qatar's total. In the worst case, it would be 100%.

.... Last year, Reuters found that at least seven other foreign governments made new donations to the foundation without the State Department being informed, partly, foundation officials said, because of "oversights."

... And just to put a perfect wrapper on this story, here is Hillary Clinton telling Goldman Sachs in 2013, just months after she quit her job as Secretary of State, that Qatar is among the states funding what would emerge to be known as the Islamic State.

If you look at what's happening in Syria, it's clearly a multiply leveled proxy battle. We've got Iran with their agents in Hezbollah, and they're being taken on by indigenous rebels but increasingly a collection of Jihadists who are funded by the Saudis, funded by the Emiratis, funded by Qatar.

Indicatively, this is how much the Clinton foundation has accepted from these three state sponsors of terrorism.

Saudi Arabia: $10-$25 million
Qatar: $1-$5 million
United Arab Emirates: $1-$5 million

Additionally, Bill Clinton has pocketed between $500,000 and $1 million for two speeches sponsored by Qatari entities. Meanwhile the "war" against ISIS continues.









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WikiLeaks: Hillary Camp Mocks Catholics

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Hillary campaign spokeswoman Jenifer Palmieri and senior fellow at the Center for American Progress John Halpin from April of 2011 mock conservative media mogul Rupert Murdock for raising his children Catholic. According to Hillary's inner circle, ?Catholics are phonies, only opting to be public Catholics because being an Evangelical is socially unpalatable, and attracted to "severely backwards gender relations."

“It’s an amazing bastardization of the faith. They must be attracted to the systematic thought and severely backwards gender relations and must be totally unaware of Christian democracy,” said Halpin.

“I imagine they think it is the most socially acceptable politically conservative religion. Their rich friends wouldn’t understand if they become evangelicals,” Palmieri responded.

“Excellent point,” Halpin replied. “They can throw around ‘Thomistic’ thought and ‘subsidiarity’ and sound sophisticated because no one knows what the hell they’re talking about.”







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Hillary campaign mocks southerners

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In another exchange, this one from September of 2015, Podesta and Center for American Progress President Neera Tanden rip Southerners and the Miss America pageant.

“Do you think it’s weird that of the 15 finalists in Miss America, 10 came from the 11 states of the CSA [Confederate States of America]?” asks Podesta.

“Not at all I would imagine the only people who watch it are from the confederacy and by now they know that so they’ve rigged the thing in their honor,” responds Tanden.





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Hillary staff mock "needy Latinos"

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In an August 2015 message to other Clinton aides with the subject line 'Needy Latinos and 1 easy call,' Mr. Podesta lays out a strategy for getting former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, former Energy Secretary Federico Pena and other leading Hispanic Democrats on board with Mrs. Clinton’s presidential bid."

Podesta also calls Richardson “a d—k," though he'd be a valuable surrogate.





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Politico's Chief Correspondent To John Podesta: "Don't Tell Anyone I Did This"

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As if there was any doubt at this point that the media is fully in bed with the Clinton campaign, Glenn Thrush, Politco's Chief Political Correspondent, decided to make it crystal clear in the following email to Podesta back in April 2015 in which he admits that he has "become a hack." The email below from Thrush was sent to get guidance related to an article he published the very next day entitled "Hillary's Big-Money Dilemma."

Because I have become a hack I will send u the whole section that pertains to u
Please don't share or tell anyone I did this
Tell me if I fucked up anything






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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


if he feels threatened - it would be called a defense

they have a NUCLEAR ARSENAL that could destroy the world - as do we

Putin is as dangerous as he is untrustworthy - and yet he's RESPONDING to the US placing nukes in E Europe. So, who's worse? The person responding, or the one who started it?







Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Politico's Chief Correspondent To John Podesta: "Don't Tell Anyone I Did This"

As if there was any doubt at this point that the media is fully in bed with the Clinton campaign, Glenn Thrush, Politco's Chief Political Correspondent, decided to make it crystal clear in the following email to Podesta back in April 2015 in which he admits that he has "become a hack." The email below from Thrush was sent to get guidance related to an article he published the very next day entitled "Hillary's Big-Money Dilemma."

Because I have become a hack I will send u the whole section that pertains to u
Please don't share or tell anyone I did this
Tell me if I fucked up anything



President: National poll results

Hillary Clinton (D) 45% (+7.00)

Donald Trump (R) 38%

Gary Johnson (L) 6%

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


There are many, many problems with hillary. She breaks countries and starts wars wherever she goes. Right now, she and obama are drumming up war fever JUST TO WIN THE ELECTION. Never mind that it's not against some small hapless country full of brown people that most voters can't find on a map. No, hillary and obama are aiming a Russia, a fully capable nuclear equal. I wonder if they've considered that the Russian response to their war-mongering might be something they can't just turn off after the election.

hillary as a president would have zero power to keep her many, many empty promises. And she knows that, but it doesn't stop her from making them anyway, because people really are that gullible. So, why not? But even more than that, hillary herself doesn't believe them, as the leaked documents show. hillary is an empty husk of a person when it comes to integrity.

hillary is completely corrupt, mixing state power with personal gain, as the leaked emails about pay-to-play as Secy of State and her toadying speeches to GS show.

And there's the billary issue - co-abusers of women and children, equal, if not worse than anyone else on the campaign trail.


But the BIGGEST problem with hillary is her finger on the nuclear button. Having left Iraq, Libya, Ukraine and Syria in unfixable smoking ruins, and unable to admit or even understand that she was wrong, surrounded by her equally deluded neocons in the State Department, military and CIA who also think a nuclear war is winnable, deaf to warnings, she'd turn her attention toward Russia - with her fat finger on the nuclear button and US policy to launch nuclear weapons FIRST in her waddling hip pocket. Given her unblemished history of failure, I can't imagine anything could possibly go wrong.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
There are many, many problems with hillary. She breaks countries and starts wars wherever she goes. Right now, she and obama are drumming up war fever JUST TO WIN THE ELECTION. Never mind that it's not against some small hapless country full of brown people that most voters can't find on a map. No, hillary and obama are aiming a Russia, a fully capable nuclear equal. I wonder if they've considered that the Russian response to their war-mongering might be something they can't just turn off after the election.

hillary as a president would have zero power to keep her many, many empty promises. And she knows that, but it doesn't stop her from making them anyway, because people really are that gullible. So, why not? But even more than that, hillary herself doesn't believe them, as the leaked documents show. hillary is an empty husk of a person when it comes to integrity.

hillary is completely corrupt, mixing state power with personal gain, as the leaked emails about pay-to-play as Secy of State and her toadying speeches to GS show.

And there's the billary issue - co-abusers of women and children, equal, if not worse than anyone else on the campaign trail.


But the BIGGEST problem with hillary is her finger on the nuclear button. Having left Iraq, Libya, Ukraine and Syria in unfixable smoking ruins, and unable to admit or even understand that she was wrong, surrounded by her equally deluded neocons in the State Department, military and CIA who also think a nuclear war is winnable, deaf to warnings, she'd turn her attention toward Russia - with her fat finger on the nuclear button and US policy to launch nuclear weapons FIRST in her waddling hip pocket. Given her unblemished history of failure, I can't imagine anything could possibly go wrong.



President: National poll results

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Donald Trump (R) 38%

Gary Johnson (L) 6%

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



There are many, many problems with hillary. She breaks countries and starts wars wherever she goes. Right now, she and obama are drumming up war fever JUST TO WIN THE ELECTION. Never mind that it's not against some small hapless country full of brown people that most voters can't find on a map. No, hillary and obama are aiming a Russia, a fully capable nuclear equal. I wonder if they've considered that the Russian response to their war-mongering might be something they can't just turn off after the election.

hillary as a president would have zero power to keep her many, many empty promises. And she knows that, but it doesn't stop her from making them anyway, because people really are that gullible. So, why not? But even more than that, hillary herself doesn't believe them, as the leaked documents show. hillary is an empty husk of a person when it comes to integrity.

hillary is completely corrupt, mixing state power with personal gain, as the leaked emails about pay-to-play as Secy of State and her toadying speeches to GS show.

And there's the billary issue - co-abusers of women and children, equal, if not worse than anyone else on the campaign trail.


But the BIGGEST problem with hillary is her finger on the nuclear button. Having left Iraq, Libya, Ukraine and Syria in unfixable smoking ruins, and unable to admit or even understand that she was wrong, surrounded by her equally deluded neocons in the State Department, military and CIA who also think a nuclear war is winnable, deaf to warnings, she'd turn her attention toward Russia - with her fat finger on the nuclear button and US policy to launch nuclear weapons FIRST in her waddling hip pocket. Given her unblemished history of failure, I can't imagine anything could possibly go wrong.





May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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Ecuador cuts Julian Assange's internet access - WikiLeaks

Anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks said on Monday that its founder Julian Assange's internet was shut down by the government of Ecuador, deflecting blame from the U.S. or British governments who have sparred with Assange for releasing sensitive material.

"We can confirm Ecuador cut off Assange's internet access Saturday, 5pm GMT, shortly after publication of (Hillary) Clinton's Goldman Sachs speeches (sic)," the statement from WikiLeaks said.
Assange has lived and worked in Ecuador's London embassy since June 2012, having been granted asylum there after a British court ordered him extradited to Sweden to face questioning in a sexual molestation case involving two female WikiLeaks supporters.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

There are many, many problems with hillary. She breaks countries and starts wars wherever she goes. Right now, she and obama are drumming up war fever JUST TO WIN THE ELECTION. Never mind that it's not against some small hapless country full of brown people that most voters can't find on a map. No, hillary and obama are aiming a Russia, a fully capable nuclear equal. I wonder if they've considered that the Russian response to their war-mongering might be something they can't just turn off after the election.

hillary as a president would have zero power to keep her many, many empty promises. And she knows that, but it doesn't stop her from making them anyway, because people really are that gullible. So, why not? But even more than that, hillary herself doesn't believe them, as the leaked documents show. hillary is an empty husk of a person when it comes to integrity.

hillary is completely corrupt, mixing state power with personal gain, as the leaked emails about pay-to-play as Secy of State and her toadying speeches to GS show.

And there's the billary issue - co-abusers of women and children, equal, if not worse than anyone else on the campaign trail.


But the BIGGEST problem with hillary is her finger on the nuclear button. Having left Iraq, Libya, Ukraine and Syria in unfixable smoking ruins, and unable to admit or even understand that she was wrong, surrounded by her equally deluded neocons in the State Department, military and CIA who also think a nuclear war is winnable, deaf to warnings, she'd turn her attention toward Russia - with her fat finger on the nuclear button and US policy to launch nuclear weapons FIRST in her waddling hip pocket. Given her unblemished history of failure, I can't imagine anything could possibly go wrong.





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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


There are many, many problems with hillary. She breaks countries and starts wars wherever she goes. Right now, she and obama are drumming up war fever JUST TO WIN THE ELECTION. Never mind that it's not against some small hapless country full of brown people that most voters can't find on a map. No, hillary and obama are aiming a Russia, a fully capable nuclear equal. I wonder if they've considered that the Russian response to their war-mongering might be something they can't just turn off after the election.

hillary as a president would have zero power to keep her many, many empty promises. And she knows that, but it doesn't stop her from making them anyway, because people really are that gullible. So, why not? But even more than that, hillary herself doesn't believe them, as the leaked documents show. hillary is an empty husk of a person when it comes to integrity.

hillary is completely corrupt, mixing state power with personal gain, as the leaked emails about pay-to-play as Secy of State and her toadying speeches to GS show.

And there's the billary issue - co-abusers of women and children, equal, if not worse than anyone else on the campaign trail.


But the BIGGEST problem with hillary is her finger on the nuclear button. Having left Iraq, Libya, Ukraine and Syria in unfixable smoking ruins, and unable to admit or even understand that she was wrong, surrounded by her equally deluded neocons in the State Department, military and CIA who also think a nuclear war is winnable, deaf to warnings, she'd turn her attention toward Russia - with her fat finger on the nuclear button and US policy to launch nuclear weapons FIRST in her waddling hip pocket. Given her unblemished history of failure, I can't imagine anything could possibly go wrong.





Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
There are many, many problems with hillary. She breaks countries and starts wars wherever she goes. Right now, she and obama are drumming up war fever JUST TO WIN THE ELECTION. Never mind that it's not against some small hapless country full of brown people that most voters can't find on a map. No, hillary and obama are aiming a Russia, a fully capable nuclear equal. I wonder if they've considered that the Russian response to their war-mongering might be something they can't just turn off after the election.

hillary as a president would have zero power to keep her many, many empty promises. And she knows that, but it doesn't stop her from making them anyway, because people really are that gullible. So, why not? But even more than that, hillary herself doesn't believe them, as the leaked documents show. hillary is an empty husk of a person when it comes to integrity.

hillary is completely corrupt, mixing state power with personal gain, as the leaked emails about pay-to-play as Secy of State and her toadying speeches to GS show.

And there's the billary issue - co-abusers of women and children, equal, if not worse than anyone else on the campaign trail.


But the BIGGEST problem with hillary is her finger on the nuclear button. Having left Iraq, Libya, Ukraine and Syria in unfixable smoking ruins, and unable to admit or even understand that she was wrong, surrounded by her equally deluded neocons in the State Department, military and CIA who also think a nuclear war is winnable, deaf to warnings, she'd turn her attention toward Russia - with her fat finger on the nuclear button and US policy to launch nuclear weapons FIRST in her waddling hip pocket. Given her unblemished history of failure, I can't imagine anything could possibly go wrong.




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President: National poll results

Averages for Mon Oct 17 2016


Hillary Clinton (D) 44% (+6.00)

Donald Trump (R) 38%

Gary Johnson (L) 7%


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There are 135 results in the John Podesta's emails (so far) which mention "Soros", including

"Soros is fine with Bing giving directly to c4's and not the 527... Bing may split his money between media and field c4's in order to show good faith that he is in it with all the other major funders jointly. If so he would probably give funds to WVWV who he likes and ACORN's c4 to help with their match."

"I am scheduled to speak with him tomorrow....doesn't sound like there is much else to cover. (I want to keep the distinction between DA and FFA clear for him.) I know he wants to discuss fundraising and budgets. I think we are best served by steering people away from the $200 million number."

"Michael Vachon had me come up to New York today to sit with George Soros and show him our ads. He liked them...a lot."

"The donors have been considering entreaties from Progressive Media USA, run by conservative-journalist turned liberal media critic David Brock; from former Clinton aide John Podesta's Fund for America; and from America Votes, a group backed by billionaire George Soros that focuses on voter mobilization, among other efforts."

Soros is clearly deeply involved in the Clinton campaign. If you want to see for yourself, just go to ...

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/

... and use "Soros" as a search term. And, no, it is NOT ""illegal" for people to possess the Wikileaks emails, as CNN said. (What a crock of shit.)









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"Low information" liberals call Trump voters "low information voters"

2016: The Election Of The Low Information Voter
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/18/1516641/-2016-The-Election-Of-
The-Low-Information-Voter


Hillary Is A Hard Sell To [Low Information] Millennials
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/heather-higgins/hillary-is-a-hard-sell-t
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Quote:

Hillary Clinton (D) 44% (+6.00)
Donald Trump (R) 38%
Gary Johnson (L) 7%
=THUGR



RIGGED POLLS

New Podesta Email Exposes Dem Playbook For Rigging Polls Through "Oversamples"

Quote:

Now, for all of you out there who still aren't convinced that the polls are rigged, we present to you the following Podesta email, leaked earlier today, that conveniently spells out, in startling detail, exactly how to rig them. The email starts out with a request for recommendations on "oversamples for polling" in order to "maximize what we get out of our media polling."

I also want to get your Atlas folks to recommend oversamples for our polling before we start in February. By market, regions, etc. I want to get this all compiled into one set of recommendations so we can maximize what we get out of our media polling.

The email even includes a handy, 37-page guide with the following poll-rigging recommendations. In Arizona, over sampling of Hispanics and Native Americans is highly recommended:

Research, microtargeting & polling projects
- Over-sample Hispanics
- Use Spanish language interviewing. (Monolingual Spanish-speaking voters are among the lowest turnout Democratic targets)
- Over-sample the Native American population


For Florida, the report recommends "consistently monitoring" samples to makes sure they're "not too old" and "has enough African American and Hispanic voters." Meanwhile, "independent" voters in Tampa and Orlando are apparently more dem friendly so the report suggests filling up independent quotas in those cities first.

- Consistently monitor the sample to ensure it is not too old, and that it has enough African American and Hispanic voters to reflect the state.
- On Independents: Tampa and Orlando are better persuasion targets than north or south Florida (check your polls before concluding this). If there are budget questions or oversamples, make sure that Tampa and Orlando are included first.


Meanwhile, it's suggested that national polls over sample "key districts / regions" and "ethnic" groups "as needed."

- General election benchmark, 800 sample, with potential over samples in key districts/regions
- Benchmark polling in targeted races, with ethnic over samples as needed
- Targeting tracking polls in key races, with ethnic over samples as needed


Earlier this morning we wrote about the obvious sampling bias in the latest ABC / Washington Post poll that showed a 12-point national advantage for Hillary. Like many of the recent polls from Reuters, ABC and The Washington Post, this latest poll included a 9-point sampling bias toward registered democrats.



Here's the problem:
The average population is 32% registered Democrat, 29% registered Republican, and 38% Independent. But if you poll 44% Democrats and ask them who they're going to vote for, and you don't adjust the results for the fact that you "oversampled" Democrats, you have purposefully skewed the data.

This explains why the most accurate poll (IBD/TIPP) shows Trump with a slight lead.



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National Polling Average


Hillary Clinton

46.3%


Donald J. Trump

40.1%




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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
There are many, many problems with hillary. She breaks countries and starts wars wherever she goes. Right now, she and obama are drumming up war fever JUST TO WIN THE ELECTION. Never mind that it's not against some small hapless country full of brown people that most voters can't find on a map. No, hillary and obama are aiming a Russia, a fully capable nuclear equal. I wonder if they've considered that the Russian response to their war-mongering might be something they can't just turn off after the election.

hillary as a president would have zero power to keep her many, many empty promises. And she knows that, but it doesn't stop her from making them anyway, because people really are that gullible. So, why not? But even more than that, hillary herself doesn't believe them, as the leaked documents show. hillary is an empty husk of a person when it comes to integrity.

hillary is completely corrupt, mixing state power with personal gain, as the leaked emails about pay-to-play as Secy of State and her toadying speeches to GS show.

And there's the billary issue - co-abusers of women and children, equal, if not worse than anyone else on the campaign trail.


But the BIGGEST problem with hillary is her finger on the nuclear button. Having left Iraq, Libya, Ukraine and Syria in unfixable smoking ruins, and unable to admit or even understand that she was wrong, surrounded by her equally deluded neocons in the State Department, military and CIA who also think a nuclear war is winnable, deaf to warnings, she'd turn her attention toward Russia - with her fat finger on the nuclear button and US policy to launch nuclear weapons FIRST in her waddling hip pocket. Given her unblemished history of failure, I can't imagine anything could possibly go wrong.




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National Polling Average


Hillary Clinton

46.3%


Donald J. Trump

40.1%

President: Chance to win


Probabilities as of Sat Oct 22 2016


Hillary Clinton (D) 85% (+71.00)

Donald Trump (R) 14%


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Awww... that's sweet .... THGUR clinging to manipulated data.



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Do you see anything wrong there? If you don't, then you have no business being around polling data.


Now, even the accurate polls STILL only give The Donald a 20% chance, but it sure would be nice if THUGR would stop believing in, and passing along, fairy tales!



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Monday, October 24, 2016 9:17 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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So... are you saying that Podesta was able to get all of the polls that show Hillary ahead to do what he wanted?
No, not all of them, Just most of them. All of the media outlets are owned by six giant corporations, and there's one thing that Hillary is for and that's giant corporations.

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You are right - anyone running for president should simply ignore powerful people. Duh.= GSTRING


Yes, they should. This is suppsed to be a contract between the people and their representatives, and the voice of one rich person should count no more than the voice of one poor one, because each is supposed to only get one vote.

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Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth- LINCOLN


I know the Gettysburg Address isn't in your Canadian history, but its concepts should be familiar to you.
Unless, of course, you're arguing for an oligarchy.
Yanno, kind of like you say Ukraine was under Yanukovich.




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Monday, October 24, 2016 10:07 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


You can find the Wikileaks emails here

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/

They have a search engine that allows you to looks for specific things. Just OOC I looked for "China" and "Soros" and a few other interesting terms.

Searches by others reveal a "pay to play" scheme to direct streams of USA-government Haiti-earthquake restoration money -via Hillary in the State Department - to "fob" (friends of Bill) or "WJC VIP".

In other words, if your organization gave money to the Clinton Foundation, you got the State Dept to back your request to handle - and siphon- government money supposedly going to Haiti.

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Yanno, with everything coming out about Clinton's private server - how she knew what the Dept policy was before setting up her private server, and that the FBI granted criminal immunity to some of the targets of the investigations - and all of the pay-to-play schemes that Hillary was in charge of while at the State Department, I agree with Trump: She should be under indictment.

Maybe with all of this new evidence she will be indicted as one of the first events of taking office.




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Monday, October 24, 2016 10:10 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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As Haiti takes stock of the damage wrought by Hurricane Matthew this week, critics have renewed their scrutiny of relief efforts — many of them sponsored by the Clinton Foundation and Hillary Clinton's State Department — that failed to alleviate the country's suffering after a massive earthquake there in 2010.

A small group of Haitian-Americans gathered outside the New York City offices of state Attorney General Eric Schneiderman Thursday to protest his refusal to look into the Clinton Foundation's finances. The same group, known as the Committee to Mobilize Against Dictatorship in Haiti, has held several demonstrations throughout the campaign in an attempt to highlight the foundation's failures.


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/clinton-foundation-critics-revive-sc
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RIGGED POLLS

New Podesta Email Exposes Dem Playbook For Rigging Polls Through "Oversamples"

G

So... are you saying that Podesta was able to get all of the polls that show Hillary ahead to do what he wanted?



Soon G we will see SIG forced to realize she had the facts to chose from, yet chose to go the route of the conspiracy theorist instead. Remember Karl Rove?

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So... are you saying that Podesta was able to get all of the polls that show Hillary ahead to do what he wanted? -G
No, not all of them, Just most of them.= SIGNY
Tin Foil Hat award time. = D


Tell me G, how many media corporations control the market? You are clearly a "low information liberal".

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You are right - anyone running for president should simply ignore powerful people. Duh.= GSTRING
Yes, they should. This is suppsed to be a contract between the people and their representatives, and the voice of one rich person should count no more than the voice of one poor one, because each is supposed to only get one vote. = SIGNY
More Naive than a First Grader award time. -G


You obviously hate democracy, you hate America, and you hate the principles that made us great.

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Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth - LINCOLN
I know the Gettysburg Address isn't in your Canadian history, but its concepts should be familiar to you.
Unless, of course, you're arguing for an oligarchy.
Yanno, kind of like you say Ukraine was under Yanukovich.= SIGNY

Needs a Pithy Saying to Guide Her award time. No wonder you're a Trump lover.=G

You also hate Lincoln, and you hate the idea of a government of, by, and for the people. And when haters run out of things to say, they just make hate-filled remarks.

Haters gonna hate, but thanks for the bump!






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