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Gary Johnson - Because He Deserves His Own Thread

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Tuesday, May 31, 2016 6:40 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Gary is running as the Libertarian candidate, again - he was also the candidate in 2012. In the interest of full disclosure, I voted for his ticket then.

He has a new running mate, apparently MA Gov. William Weld.

He has stated that he would legalize marijuana.

He reportedly has the backing of the Koch brothers.

If he wins a few states, like Maine (gave Perot second place in 1992), AZ where he was Governor, and MA (for Weld), the election could be thrown to Congress to elect, separately, the President (by the House) and the Vice President (by the Senate). This would happen if these states deny the leading Electoral Vote-getter the 269 majority.

If he wins a little over one-third of the Electoral College, more than the other candidates, he would make an argument for being elected by the Congress.

If he wins a majority of 269 in the Electoral College (with as little as 25 states), he would outright win the Presidency.


Link to the thread where I broke down the Electoral College scenarios:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60512&mid=10108
59#1010859


An interesting map:
https://libertarianvindicator.com/2016/06/29/99-electoral-votes-a-real
-possibility-for-governor-gary-johnson-the-libertarian-party
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Wednesday, June 1, 2016 8:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


He has a decent chance this time largely because of the high levels of dislike for the New York Liberal #1 and New York Liberal #2 candidates.

The math and scenarios are mostly laid out in this thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60512&mid=1
011038#1011038

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Thursday, June 2, 2016 10:52 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yes, he does deserve his own thread.

BUMP for Gary Johnson!

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Thursday, June 9, 2016 6:33 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


With the Democrat Primaries about wrapped up, it looks like The Libertarians will have much fodder to use on Hilliary and Trump.

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Thursday, June 9, 2016 10:52 PM

RIVERLOVE


Oh yeah, Gary Johnson. No borders and legalize weed. Yippee!


"C'mon free minds, free bodies, free dope, free music. The day is on its way, the day is ours."

Kantner/Slick

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Friday, June 10, 2016 2:58 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
Oh yeah, Gary Johnson. No borders and legalize weed. Yippee!


The pot issue would be a favorite of the left, or the young.

But for conservatives, the issue of Federal Debt, Balanced Budget, Federal spending should be of interest. The libertarian party in the past has advocated strong reduction in Federal Spending - drastically. I have not heard of them migrating from that position. This would be an area that a Republican House could make great progress with. Can you imagine 4 years of fiscal responsibility?

Regarding borders, Obama has had a pass because as a black person the media avoids pointing out the amount of crimes he commits, the great tendency toward criminal behavior he insists upon displaying.
Johnson would not be able to abuse or avoid Federal Laws at a whim like Barack Hussein has done. McConman and the Senate might allow it, but Ryan and the House would not.

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Tuesday, June 21, 2016 7:57 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


He was at 8% in this poll:
https://www.nccivitas.org/2016/trump-leads-hilary-in-new-civitas-poll/

And 11% in this Monmouth Poll:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/24/libertarian-gary-johns
on-double-digits-race-agains
/
http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/3
2212254994/32212254995/30064771087/7714a05b-515f-4ad3-bdaa-e72a6e5f8e61.pdf


And 11% last week:
http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/06/16/another-national-poll-s
hows-trump-doomed-gary-johnson-getting-massive-support
/

But only 9% from CNN:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/poll-clinton-trump-2016-224584
Although that poll includes 7% for Green Party.

and 12% in this Fox poll:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2016/06/09/fox-news-poll-n
ational-releas-6-16
/
(click on poll results, about 2/3 the way through the document, question 5.)

And 9% from yesterday's Monmouth:
http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/3
2212254994/32212254995/30064771087/568faad2-81ab-4bd0-b373-8577326e76bd.pdf



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Thursday, July 7, 2016 8:21 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Libertarian Party head points out the serious miscarriage of justice regarding Hilliary's emails.

http://reason.com/blog/2016/07/06/libertarians-on-clinton-email-the-pa
rty

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Thursday, July 7, 2016 8:43 PM

REAVERFAN


He won't get 2% of the vote anywhere. Waste of a vote.

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Saturday, July 9, 2016 5:29 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
He won't get 2% of the vote anywhere. Waste of a vote.


Interesting prediction.
Have you ever been right about anything?

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Saturday, July 9, 2016 6:43 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
He won't get 2% of the vote anywhere. Waste of a vote.


Interesting prediction.
Have you ever been right about anything?

7.5% of the popular vote is the best prediction I know for Gary Johnson. The predictions are updated daily with each new popularity poll.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

7.5 % is more than Ralph Nader's 2.74% in 2000 when Nader gave Bush the Presidency.
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-nader-cost-gore-an-election/2015/0
2/05/3261cc22-abd2-11e4-8876-460b1144cbc1_story.html


Nader’s candidacy was based on the self-serving argument that it would make no difference whether Gore or George W. Bush were elected. This was insane. Nobody, for instance, can imagine Gore picking as the nation's chief law enforcement officer a man of Ashcroft's anti-civil rights, antitrust, anti-abortion and anti-gay record. Or picking Bush's first choice to head the Labor Department, Linda Chavez, who opposes the minimum wage and affirmative action.

I look forward to Gary Johnson arguing it would make no difference whether Trump or Hillary were elected.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-is-gary-johnson-ta
king-more-support-from-clinton-or-trump
/


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Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:43 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


New poll has Hilliary leading Trump by 9% WITH 37% in Colorado and 5% with 39% in Virginia, and Johnson gets 13% in CO and 10% in VA. Hilliary's lead over Trump is about the same in as the results for Obama in 2008.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/clinton-leads-trump-fox-poll/2016/07/1
3/id/738530
/

CO voted 23% for Perot in 1992.
Both VA and CO went to Obama by 51% in 2012, but Romney got over 46% both places - with no serious 3rd party.

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Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:01 PM

WHOZIT


Johnson is a liberal...and a pot head. The Libertarian Party is where conservatives went to get away from people like him. In 1972 many conservatives left the Republican Party and joined the Libertarian Party because they thought Nixon was too liberal, Nixon won in a land slide anyway. Libs like Johnson are going to take that party further to the left and ruin it.

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Friday, July 15, 2016 5:52 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
New poll has Hilliary leading Trump by 9% WITH 37% in Colorado and 5% with 39% in Virginia, and Johnson gets 13% in CO and 10% in VA. Hilliary's lead over Trump is about the same in as the results for Obama in 2008.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/clinton-leads-trump-fox-poll/2016/07/1
3/id/738530
/

CO voted 23% for Perot in 1992.
Both VA and CO went to Obama by 51% in 2012, but Romney got over 46% both places - with no serious 3rd party.


Cruz beat Trump and Bernie beat Hilliary in Colorado.
Trump got one third of the VA delegates, and Hilliary beat Bernie in VA.

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Saturday, July 16, 2016 4:41 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Monday, July 25, 2016 7:37 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I can hardly wait to see polling data following Hilliary's latest scandal with the Party of Racism, Anti-Semitism, and Intolerance (aka Democrats).

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Tuesday, July 26, 2016 6:55 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Johnson is favorite among Military with over 38%, beating Clinton and Trump.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/288546-poll-libertarian-johnson-beat
ing-trump-clinton-among-active-duty-troops


And Johnson is at 26%, 3% behind Trump in Utah, trending towards winning Utah. Utah is worth 6 Electoral votes.
If Trump flips PA, OH, and FL his way, as recent polls have indicated, and all other states go the way of 2012 except Utah, then Johnson getting Utah would make it a Trump 267, Hilliary 265, Johnson 6 - and the Electoral College would not generate a winner. The Election would need to go to Congress to have the President elected by the House and the Veep elected by the Senate.

https://alibertarianfuture.com/2016-election/poll-gary-johnson-26-utah
-three-points-overtaking-trump
/

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Saturday, July 30, 2016 3:32 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Saturday, July 30, 2016 4:03 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


And wiki has some info, but a bit of scrolling down is required to find it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United
_States_presidential_election,_2016


He is getting over 10% in several states, and over 15% in a few. The Utah 26% poll isn't even shown.

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Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:38 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Watched Trump on George Stephanopolis' show this morning.

Hiz scatterbrained replyz shoud make hiz supporterz reconsider and either not vote at all or swich to Johnson. But they wont. I'v alredy herd the 'throw away your vote' excuse twise today.

Sement hedz.

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Monday, August 1, 2016 8:26 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Watched Trump on George Stephanopolis' show this morning.

Hiz scatterbrained replyz shoud make hiz supporterz reconsider and either not vote at all or swich to Johnson. But they wont. I'v alredy herd the 'throw away your vote' excuse twise today.

Sement hedz.


They think that throwing their vote away on New York Liberal #1 or New York Liberal #2 when they know they'll be a horrific President is NOT throwing their vote away?

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Thursday, August 4, 2016 6:45 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


New poll shows he is at 15% in midwest, plus he is pulling the votes away from Hilliary in these swing states.

http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/08/03/gary-johnson-now-poll
ing-15-amongst-midwest-states-says-cnn-poll
/


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Thursday, August 4, 2016 7:04 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Thursday, August 4, 2016 7:12 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
And wiki has some info, but a bit of scrolling down is required to find it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United
_States_presidential_election,_2016


He is getting over 10% in several states, and over 15% in a few. The Utah 26% poll isn't even shown.


A list of some, from that linky page:

UT 16%
WI 16%
NM 14%
OH 14%
CO 13%
MS 13%
PA 13%
MI 12%
CA 10%
NV 10%
NH 10%
VT 10%
VA 10%


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Thursday, August 4, 2016 7:24 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Monday, August 15, 2016 6:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:55 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
And wiki has some info, but a bit of scrolling down is required to find it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United
_States_presidential_election,_2016


He is getting over 10% in several states, and over 15% in a few. The Utah 26% poll isn't even shown.


A list of some, from that linky page:

UT 16%
WI 16%
NM 14%
OH 14%
CO 13%
MS 13%
PA 13%
MI 12%
CA 10%
NV 10%
NH 10%
VT 10%
VA 10%



From his campaign page, in the past day, looks like he has 16% in CO, 12% in IA, 11% in VA.

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Wednesday, August 31, 2016 1:54 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Worth watching:



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Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:17 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
He won't get 2% of the vote anywhere. Waste of a vote.


Interesting prediction.
Have you ever been right about anything?


Yup. I'm right now, and I'll be right later. He could get 20% of the vote, and it wouldn't matter.

Also, libertarians are incredibly silly, and have the most nonsensical arguments and worldview imaginable. Just watch that silly, pointless "debate." Waste of a vote. I'm 100% right, there.

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Wednesday, August 31, 2016 7:33 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
He won't get 2% of the vote anywhere. Waste of a vote.


Interesting prediction.
Have you ever been right about anything?


Yup. I'm right now, and I'll be right later. He could get 20% of the vote, and it wouldn't matter.

Also, libertarians are incredibly silly, and have the most nonsensical arguments and worldview imaginable. Just watch that silly, pointless "debate." Waste of a vote. I'm 100% right, there.


To refresh the memory of those in the real world:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
He won't get 2% of the vote anywhere.


This means that you predict Gary Johnson will get less than 2% of the vote in every State and County in America. This means not more than 2%, in English simple enough for even reaverfan to understand.
As usual, you are 100% wrong. You just have that knack.

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Saturday, September 3, 2016 3:48 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Heard an interview where he expanded upon his plan to do away with Income Tax, including Corporate, and advance to a National Consumption Tax. Too bad the IRS will cease to exist, gazillions of people out of a job.

And last night I saw that PBS Wisconsin interviewed him. Imagine that - liberals allowing the people to see that Hilliary isn't the only candidate.

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Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:20 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
And wiki has some info, but a bit of scrolling down is required to find it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United
_States_presidential_election,_2016


He is getting over 10% in several states, and over 15% in a few. The Utah 26% poll isn't even shown.


A list of some, from that linky page:

UT 16%
WI 16%
NM 14% -> 16%
OH 14%
CO 13% -> 16%
MS 13%
PA 13%
MI 12%
CA 10%
NV 10%
NH 10% -> 14%
VT 10% -> 13%
VA 10% -> 11%



Updating the above post, which was on 4 August:

AK 16%
CO 16%
NM 16%
NC 15%
NH 14%
ID 13%
VT 13%
AZ 12%
IA 12%
ME 12%
GA 11%
VA 11%
IN 10%
OR 10%
WV 10%

That would be 23 states with 10% or more.


AND, for those Libtard types who cannot comprehend simple math, those percentages are ALL more than 2%. In fact, I don't recall seeing any of the polls listed with less than 3% for Johnson. Again, for the simple-minded, 3% is MORE than 2%, not less than 2%.

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Saturday, September 10, 2016 1:26 PM

THX


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
He has a decent chance this time largely because of the high levels of dislike for the New York Liberal #1 and New York Liberal #2 candidates.




But he is the #2 liberal. Look at him cucking out about an already euphemized phrase "illegal immigrant" (the actual legal term is illegal ALIEN.) Many say he will pull more from Hillary than Trump.




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Thursday, September 15, 2016 6:05 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Hiz respons about Allepo snapped the twig he wuz hanging frum. Too bad.



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Thursday, September 15, 2016 7:49 PM

WHOZIT


Johnson does not deserve his own thread, he's a stupid lib pothead

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Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:17 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Johnson does not deserve his own thread, he's a stupid lib pothead




See, but that's where you lose people whozit.

He's not "lib" as in leftie

(Well, evidence is pointing that his camp is totally that way, but Libertarians should not be....)

And "Pot Culture" is something you're going to have to live with, whether or not you choose to partake in it or not.

Sometimes these days, in order to not be doing illegal things, I can easily swallow a 30 pack of cheep brew.

I never smoked pot at work. Whether it was retail or a real job that had potentialities behind it.

I personally know dozens of retail employees, half a dozen delivery drivers and one suit-wearing banker that regularly indulge in pot smoking nearly 24/7 when they're not sleeping.

Overall, no matter how "great" or menial their positions in life are, they generally seem happy.

Even one "tough guy" at my old job with tattoos covering 60% of his body that gave me shit one day when he was new didn't push it too far when I put him in his place.

I worked hard as I always did, and he started calling me "lady" one night....

I thought I imagined it the first time I walked past him, but there was no coincidence the second time.


He'd been there a few weeks and he loved showing off some knives he had that he could get away with having while he was at work. We did cut boxes. He just had a better utensil.


The second time I was walking by and he said it, I said "Say it Again".

"Huh?"


"Call me Lady one more time, but this time you better have more than a little knife in your pocket."

To which, he replied "I don't need a knife to beat your ass old man" ;)

"You keep telling yourself that". I said before I walked away carrying a load on a pallet jack, and gave an evil smile over my shoulder. "You know where to find me" :)




For the rest of that night, I had my Spidey Sense tingling.

If I was going to be stabbed again, this was the night.



We were not only cool, but I found out this guy loved watching History Channel WWII things on Youtube. Him and the Mom of his boy fought a lot, but they made it work enough to have him and he'd die for his boy.

This scrawny little fucking punk that worked at a tatoo shop and was over a decade younger than me who I was looking forward taking some stress out on....

Book (?) Judge (Me) Cover (Him)....

We haven't talked a while, and I know future jobs were even less easy for him given his Body Art and almost complete lack of social graces.

At the end of the day though, I know that is the type of Dad who would kill for his son.



Gary Johnson is a Pussy.

You had your chance with Ron Paul and you all blew it.



That chance will come up again, but this is not the elections to fuck with what could be

It's Trump or it's..........

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:05 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by THX:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
He has a decent chance this time largely because of the high levels of dislike for the New York Liberal #1 and New York Liberal #2 candidates.


But he is the #2 liberal. Look at him cucking out about an already euphemized phrase "illegal immigrant" (the actual legal term is illegal ALIEN.) Many say he will pull more from Hillary than Trump.


Gary Johnson is not, nor has been, more liberal than either Hilliary or Trump, and he is not from New York.

His record as Governor seems quite solid.

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Saturday, September 24, 2016 5:55 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I see that the following states do not have a plurality for either Hilliary or Trump:

AK - 29%/39%, leaving 32% for neither
DE - 42%/32%, leaving 26%
ID - 23%-44%, leaving 33%
KY - 25%/41%, leaving 34%
ME - 37%/37%, leaving 26%
OR - 43%/28%, leaving 29%
TX - 32%/39%, leaving 29%
UT - 24%/39%, leaving 37%

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Sunday, September 25, 2016 4:40 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I see that the following states do not have a plurality for either Hilliary or Trump:

AK - 29%/39%, leaving 32% for neither
DE - 42%/32%, leaving 26%
ID - 23%-44%, leaving 33%
KY - 25%/41%, leaving 34%
ME - 37%/37%, leaving 26%
OR - 43%/28%, leaving 29%
TX - 32%/39%, leaving 29%
UT - 24%/39%, leaving 37%


With up to 37% for neither Hilliary or Trump, a little surge for Johnson in these states could give him the Electoral Votes for these states, and deny both Hilliary and Trump the Electoral majority.

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Monday, September 26, 2016 1:13 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Woct him on the Jorj Stefanopolis show yesterday. He came across az a loon.
I think he may hav smoked a dooby just befor the interview!

Asked about global warming and he went to the dum guy argument - the world iz doomed anyway, so dont bother - blathering about the sun dying in a billion yirz and plate tektonics. A true Libertarian after all!


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Monday, September 26, 2016 1:21 PM

REAVERFAN


What an idiot.

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Monday, September 26, 2016 10:32 PM

ELVISCHRIST


Gary Johnson is a fucking idiot.

First, he has no idea at all what the fuck Aleppo is.

Then he says we shouldn't worry about climate change because someday the Sun will engulf the Earth.

Hell, why is he worried about our national debt if that's the case?

Dude's a fucking dumbass, and so is anyone fool enough to vote for his stupid ass.

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Thursday, September 29, 2016 8:26 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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And wiki has some info, but a bit of scrolling down is required to find it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United
_States_presidential_election,_2016


He is getting over 10% in several states, and over 15% in a few. The Utah 26% poll isn't even shown.


A list of some, from that linky page:

UT 16%
WI 16%
NM 14% -> 16%
OH 14%
CO 13% -> 16%
MS 13%
PA 13%
MI 12%
CA 10%
NV 10%
NH 10% -> 14%
VT 10% -> 13%
VA 10% -> 11%



Updating the above post, which was on 4 August:

AK 16%
CO 16%
NM 16%
NC 15%
NH 14%
ID 13%
VT 13%
AZ 12%
IA 12%
ME 12%
GA 11%
VA 11%
IN 10%
OR 10%
WV 10%

That would be 23 states with 10% or more.


AND, for those Libtard types who cannot comprehend simple math, those percentages are ALL more than 2%. In fact, I don't recall seeing any of the polls listed with less than 3% for Johnson. Again, for the simple-minded, 3% is MORE than 2%, not less than 2%.


The above post was on 8 September.
Further polling data is as follows:
WA 16%
NH 15%
VA 15%
PA 14%
CA 11%
IN 11%
NV 11%
OR 11%
TX 10%
WY 10%

Because the updates are getting large,
All combined:
WA 16%
UT 16%
WI 16%
NM 16%
AK 16%
CO 16%
NH 15%
VA 15%
NC 15%
PA 14%
OH 14%
VT 13%
MS 13%
ID 13%
AZ 12%
IA 12%
ME 12%
CA 11%
IN 11%
NV 11%
OR 11%
GA 11%
MI 10%
TX 10%
WY 10%
WV 10%

That is 26 States with 10% or more in at least one poll.
In the real world, 10% is more than 2%.

And I've heard reports that about 70% of voters do not know who he is. So if 30% have heard of him, and up to 16% would vote for him, that would mean that if everybody heard of him, he might have 53% of the vote in 6 states, and also 50% in another 3 states. 13% now would extrapolate to 40% (with 100% awake and aware), which would be enough to carry the state in the 12 States above showing more than 12% for him.


UT, ID, AK look very interesting.

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Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:51 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
And wiki has some info, but a bit of scrolling down is required to find it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United
_States_presidential_election,_2016


He is getting over 10% in several states, and over 15% in a few. The Utah 26% poll isn't even shown.


A list of some, from that linky page:


Because the updates are getting large,
All combined:
WA 16%
UT 16%
WI 16%
NM 16%
AK 16%
CO 16%
NH 15%
VA 15%
NC 15%
PA 14%
OH 14%
VT 13%
MS 13%
ID 13%
AZ 12%
IA 12%
ME 12%
CA 11%
IN 11%
NV 11%
OR 11%
GA 11%
MI 10%
TX 10%
WY 10%
WV 10%

That is 26 States with 10% or more in at least one poll.
In the real world, 10% is more than 2%.

And I've heard reports that about 70% of voters do not know who he is. So if 30% have heard of him, and up to 16% would vote for him, that would mean that if everybody heard of him, he might have 53% of the vote in 6 states, and also 50% in another 3 states. 13% now would extrapolate to 40% (with 100% awake and aware), which would be enough to carry the state in the 12 States above showing more than 12% for him.


UT, ID, AK look very interesting.


That list was from Sep 29.

Update, from the link listed:
NM - 24%
AK - 18%
MT - 11%

Yes, in the real world, those are all more than 2%.

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Thursday, November 3, 2016 8:38 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


What a douchebag Weld turned out to be.

But I'm still voting for Gary at the top of the ticket.

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Sunday, November 6, 2016 2:56 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


This poll graphic indicates Hilliary is only up to 269 - and this site is heavily biased towards her.

http://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016/polls.php

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Sunday, November 6, 2016 3:08 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


MI up to 11%

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Sunday, November 6, 2016 3:14 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Monday, November 7, 2016 8:48 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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MI up to 11%


And also a poll in Utah had McCullin with 31%, making a 4% lead over the 2 New York Liberals.

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Monday, November 7, 2016 8:52 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
This poll graphic indicates Hilliary is only up to 269 - and this site is heavily biased towards her.

http://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016/polls.php



Today same heavily biased site has Hilliary with 224 Electoral Votes.

I had hoped to make a list of different polls and their current numbers, but I worked too long tonight.

Tomorrow all the polls will change their numbers and say they were accurate all along.

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