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American Soldier Dies in Iraq Saving Kurds from ISIS

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Friday, October 23, 2015 3:55 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Buried deep among the Bullshit Follies (Benghazi Trial) was a story regarding a Delta Force commando squad assisting the Peshmerga in Northern Iraq, freeing 70 Kurd hostages and capturing 5 ISIS soldiers slated for execution.

http://aranews.net/2015/10/u-s-forces-and-the-peshmerga-storm-isis-str
onghold-rescue-70-kurdish-hostages-north-iraq
/

Fuck yeah! Get those murdering bastards and kill 'em all!

Honor to the Peshmerga!


SGG

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Friday, October 23, 2015 11:09 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Buried deep among the Bullshit Follies (Benghazi Trial) was a story regarding a Delta Force commando squad assisting the Peshmerga in Northern Iraq, freeing 70 Kurd hostages and capturing 5 ISIS soldiers slated for execution.

http://aranews.net/2015/10/u-s-forces-and-the-peshmerga-storm-isis-str
onghold-rescue-70-kurdish-hostages-north-iraq
/

Fuck yeah! Get those murdering bastards and kill 'em all!

Honor to the Peshmerga!


SGG



I'd like to see another country drop into the middle of ISIS and pull that off. This is the future of our involvement in foreign wars going forward. To use special forces to assist the locals and to not do all the fighting for them.

Saudi Arabia has the 3rd largest military budget behind the U.S. and China. Time to let them take the lead in defending it's interests in the middle east. There is a report though that suggests they will be bankrupted by 2020 because of their welfare system and oil prices. Remember Iran and Lybia are coming back online which will make matters worse for them.

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Saturday, October 24, 2015 2:57 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


The Peshmerga have been holding off the militant extremists almost completely on their own. I believe that Americans have been volunteering for some time now, and it's only been recent that special forces have joined in on the fight, mainly providing transport, training and the occasional raid to recover hostages. The Peshmerga are like the Revolutionary patriots of this country; they are strongly independent that have been fighting for many years - women too. I don't think that there will be any increase of American soldiers, at least until the next president is voted through in 2016.


SGG


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Buried deep among the Bullshit Follies (Benghazi Trial) was a story regarding a Delta Force commando squad assisting the Peshmerga in Northern Iraq, freeing 70 Kurd hostages and capturing 5 ISIS soldiers slated for execution.

http://aranews.net/2015/10/u-s-forces-and-the-peshmerga-storm-isis-str
onghold-rescue-70-kurdish-hostages-north-iraq
/

Fuck yeah! Get those murdering bastards and kill 'em all!

Honor to the Peshmerga!


SGG



I'd like to see another country drop into the middle of ISIS and pull that off. This is the future of our involvement in foreign wars going forward. To use special forces to assist the locals and to not do all the fighting for them.

Saudi Arabia has the 3rd largest military budget behind the U.S. and China. Time to let them take the lead in defending it's interests in the middle east. There is a report though that suggests they will be bankrupted by 2020 because of their welfare system and oil prices. Remember Iran and Lybia are coming back online which will make matters worse for them.


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Saturday, October 24, 2015 8:04 AM

KPO

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I'd like to see another country drop into the middle of ISIS and pull that off. This is the future of our involvement in foreign wars going forward.

It will be used sparingly, because:

a) It's all very well until one of these missions goes disastrously wrong. No US president wants to see videos of captured American servicemen being beheaded by jihadis
b) The more these types of missions are carried out the more IS will come to expect them, and be ready for them. This increases the chances of a) happening.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Saturday, October 24, 2015 9:01 AM

AURAPTOR

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OK, now that's out of the way, hoorah to the fallen.

Honor to the Peshmerga!

Yep.

It was a bad ass and heroic act on the part of Delta Force to jump in and assist in the mission.

That's who we are.

Be at peace, Master Sergeant Joshua Wheeler,

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Saturday, October 24, 2015 10:02 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by AURaptor:



OK, now that's out of the way, hoorah to the fallen.

Honor to the Peshmerga!

Yep.

It was a bad ass and heroic act on the part of Delta Force to jump in and assist in the mission.

That's who we are.

Be at peace, Master Sergeant Joshua Wheeler,

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen


I decided to remove Obama's video and address the attack on him.

He did say we were fighting ISIS and he never said we would not use special forces for any reason. Missions always change anyway. This is one of several such missions and your latching onto this so you can attack our commander and chief says lots about your false patriotism.


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Saturday, October 24, 2015 12:57 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Time to let them [Saudi Arabia] take the lead in defending it's interests in the middle east.
They are "defending their interests".

It's called "funding jihadists". Don't you know that Saudi Arabia is the main source of funding for al Qaida and it's affiliates, and the USA has worked hand-in-glove with KSA (Kingdom of Saudi Arabia) to destroy various secular governments in the region to create power vacuums which allowed al Qaida to flourish? Don't you know that the Saudi nationals have the same nutty religion (Salafism/ Takfirism/ Wahhabism) as the jihadists running around who are beheading people?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/analyses/wahhabism
.html


Oh, wait, what am I saying? It's not like the jihadists behead/ stone/ flog apostates, and KSA doesn't. Those Saudis royals and their monarchy are just as barbaric as their more mobile brethren, al Qaida, al Nusra, ISIS, and their various affiliates and offshoots. We aren't "fighting ISIS". We're just pretending to fight ISIS because ISIS is the love-child of Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Qatar (our allies in the Middle East).

The soldiers that we put in harm's way are just puppets in a theater of the absurd, and the title of the play is "The Global War on Terror". We foment a tidal wave of terror, and then toss a few sacrificial lam ... I mean, highly dedicated and exquisitely-trained soldiers ... at it from the opposite direction. All to keep you fooled into thinking that we're really on the side of the "good guys".

Throwing their lives into the maw is a pointless and cynical public relations exercise. What a tragedy that anyone should die for such an unsupported cause.


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And this week, General Allen tried to reassure officials in the Sunni monarchies in the Persian Gulf that the United States would not join forces with the Russians in Syria or tacitly support their actions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/24/world/middleeast/general-john-allen-
obama-isis.html?_r=0



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Sunday, October 25, 2015 7:24 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Here's the thing: If POTUS says that we're leaving 10-20 thousand troops, he'll get criticized for extending the war. But this is part of the strategy, you keep your enemy off-balance by saying you're bringing home the troops. What good would it be if you telegraph the enemy your intentions.

Please folks use a little brain power and think before you speak, or, in this case, post ill-advised comments (that includes ill-advised innuendos).

POTUS pulls off the "screen" play..............touchdown.......the crowd goes wild!


SGG


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:



OK, now that's out of the way, hoorah to the fallen.

Honor to the Peshmerga!

Yep.

It was a bad ass and heroic act on the part of Delta Force to jump in and assist in the mission.

That's who we are.

Be at peace, Master Sergeant Joshua Wheeler,

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen


I decided to remove Obama's video and address the attack on him.

He did say we were fighting ISIS and he never said we would not use special forces for any reason. Missions always change anyway. This is one of several such missions and your latching onto this so you can attack our commander and chief says lots about your false patriotism.



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Sunday, October 25, 2015 7:37 PM

SHINYGOODGUY

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Monday, October 26, 2015 1:40 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Here's the thing: If POTUS says that we're leaving 10-20 thousand troops, he'll get criticized for extending the war. But this is part of the strategy, you keep your enemy off-balance by saying you're bringing home the troops. What good would it be if you telegraph the enemy your intentions.

Please folks use a little brain power and think before you speak, or, in this case, post ill-advised comments (that includes ill-advised innuendos).

Oh, are you talking about/to me???

Yanno, USA policy in the Mideast extends far beyond THIS President. In fact, THIS President has shown far more independence from Saudi Arabia than most former Presidents, back to WWII.

There's a reason why the former head of Saudi Security ... the one that threatened Putin with Chechen terrorists at Sochi .... was known as Prince Bandar "Bush" bin Sultan. It's because Prince Bandar "Bush" bin Sultan had an exceptionally close relationship with both Bush Presidents... AND an exceptionally close relationships with terrorists. You should look it up and confirm it ... it's everywhere from Wikipedia to the NYT.

Now, the link between Saudi Arabia and al Qaida was very well-known. Not just the funding of fundamentalist madrasses throughout the Horn and Africa and the Mideast, and the individual case of Osama bin Laden (a Saudi, funded by Saudis AND the USA) but historically.

"Those who would not conform to this view should be killed, their wives and daughters violated, and their possessions confiscated" ALL Muslims must individually pledge their allegiance to a single Muslim leader (a Caliph, if there were one). Those who would not conform to this view should be killed, their wives and daughters violated, and their possessions confiscated

Who wrote this? Abu Baki al Bagdhadi, the founder of ISIS???

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No, Abd al-Wahhab, the founder of Wahhabism, somewhere around 1740



Here's an interesting article about the fundamental role of Wahhabism in the founding of the Saudi tribe as the monarch of the peninsula.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/isis-wahhabism-saudi-ara
bia_b_5717157.html


Now, I find the article somewhat confusingly written, but the short story is that al-Wahhab, who believed in some weird form of Islam, was banished from his tribal area in 1740, and settled with Ibn Saud, leader of a tribe in the Nejd desert. Ibn Saud saw the utility of Wahhabism in granting his banditry religious authority.
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Ibn Saud's clan, seizing on Abd al-Wahhab's doctrine, now could do what they always did, which was raiding neighboring villages and robbing them of their possessions. Only now they were doing it not within the ambit of Arab tradition, but rather under the banner of jihad. Ibn Saud and Abd al-Wahhab also reintroduced the idea of martyrdom in the name of jihad, as it granted those martyred immediate entry into paradise.


With al-Wahhab,
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Ibn Saud committed a massacre in Karbala in 1801. He proudly documented that massacre saying, "we took Karbala and slaughtered and took its people (as slaves), then praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds, and we do not apologize for that and say: 'And to the unbelievers: the same treatment.'"
Between al-Wahhab, Ibn Saud, and his son Abdul Aziz, and HIS son Saud bin Abd al Aziz, they conquered Mecca, Medina, and the rest of Arabia. But by 1812, the Ottoman Empire squashed the first Saudi/Wahhabi kingdom, and Wahhabism went to hibernate in the Nejd desert.

ONE HUNDRED YEARS LATER, with the collapse of the Ottoman Empire during WWII (~1914) Wahhabism and the House of Saud make a resurgence, and Wahhabism and the House of Saud have been sharing Arabia ever since.

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The Al Saud -- in this 20th century renaissance -- were led by the laconic and politically astute Abd-al Aziz [NOT the same Aziz previously cited] who, on uniting the fractious Bedouin tribes, launched the Saudi "Ikhwan" [HOLY WARRIORS] in the spirit of Abd-al Wahhab's and Ibn Saud's earlier fighting proselytisers.

The Ikhwan was a reincarnation of the early, fierce, semi-independent vanguard movement of committed armed Wahhabist "moralists" who almost had succeeded in seizing Arabia by the early 1800s. In the same manner as earlier, the Ikhwan again succeeded in capturing Mecca, Medina and Jeddah between 1914 and 1926. Abd-al Aziz, however, began to feel his wider interests to be threatened by the revolutionary "Jacobinism" exhibited by the Ikhwan. The Ikhwan revolted -- leading to a civil war that lasted until the 1930s

With the advent of the oil bonanza -- as the French scholar, Giles Kepel writes, Saudi goals were to "reach out and spread Wahhabism across the Muslim world ... to "Wahhabise" Islam, thereby reducing the "multitude of voices within the religion" to a "single creed" -- a movement which would transcend national divisions. Billions of dollars were -- and continue to be -- invested in this manifestation of soft power.

It was this heady mix of billion dollar soft power projection -- and the Saudi willingness to manage Sunni Islam both to further America's interests, as it concomitantly embedded Wahhabism educationally, socially and culturally throughout the lands of Islam -- that brought into being a western policy dependency on Saudi Arabia, a dependency that has endured since Abd-al Aziz's meeting with Roosevelt on a U.S. warship [1945] until today.

...the subsequent seizing of the opportunely surging petrodollar spigot in the 1970s, to channel the volatile Ikhwani current away from home towards export -- by diffusing a cultural revolution, rather than violent revolution throughout the Muslim world.

...There is nothing here that separates Wahhabism from ISIS.



Here's a couple of examples of how desultory the United State's prosecution of the "Global War on Terror" has been:

19 of the 21 9-11 hijackers were Saudi. What was GW Bush's first act? He allowed the Saudi family members to FLY OUT of the USA, when the USA was (supposedly) under no-fly orders!

19 of the 21 hijackers were Saudi. Did the USA target Saudi Arabia? NOPE!
What did Afghanistan have to do with 9-11? Nothing.
What did Iraq have to do with 9-11? Nothing.
What did Libya have to do with 9-11? Nothing.
What did Syria have to do with 9-11? Nothing.
But destroying these nations sure gave al Qaida a field day!
And we sure spent a crap-ton of $$ and wasted a lot of American lives doing fuck-all about terrorism (except maybe to promote it.)

In "fighting ISIS", did you know that
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Three out of every four times that Obama dispatches American warplanes over Iraq, they return to base without dropping any bombs or firing any missiles.
?

Now, Obama finds himself in a tough spot. His State Department staff and Pentagon command are packed with neocons, doing things he probably doesn't know about or didn't fully approve (Ukraine, Syria). And furthermore, he's saddled with leftover Mideast policies from the many many Presidents before him- policies which are intertwined with Saudi/Wahhabi interests. It's possible that he wants to take a more forceful U-turn away from that direction, but the best he can do is leave the necons twisting on the wind.

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Monday, October 26, 2015 4:10 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


No I wasn't referring to any one in specific. If Obama was ever caught fraternizing with the Saudis, well, forget it, they would run him outta town on a rail - you know, the old tar & feathers!


SGG

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Monday, October 26, 2015 4:17 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


This is a very schizophrenic post Rap. How can you criticize and praise Obama in the same post!?


SGG

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Monday, October 26, 2015 3:55 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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No I wasn't referring to any one in specific. If Obama was ever caught fraternizing with the Saudis, well, forget it, they would run him outta town on a rail - you know, the old tar & feathers!-SGG


Well, seeing as how the rightwing is convinced that he's a Kenyan Muslim Marxist (not sure how all of those go together logically) he could probably get away with a lot less than the overtly white Anglo-Saxon Protestant Presidents before him.

But I hope I made the point that ISIS and Wahhabism are baked into the Saudi cake, as it were. The Royal family only stays in power by the blessing of powerful Saudi clerics, and those clerics (and a significant portion of the Royal family) have one foot in ISIS-land. They see ISIS as a purifying Islamic force, even though it may sweep the Royal family (and its privileges) away.

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Monday, October 26, 2015 8:01 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by THGRRI:

This is one of several such missions and your latching onto this so you can attack our commander and chief says lots about your false patriotism.




It's the only mission ( so far ) that a US soldier has been KIA while fighting ISIS, after Obama said we'd not make use of US combat forces on the ground.

Sorry, but he was a US combat member, and he was , on the ground.

You're getting pissy and hurling insults because I posted Obama's own words ?

That's rich.

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Monday, October 26, 2015 8:03 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
This is a very schizophrenic post Rap. How can you criticize and praise Obama in the same post!?


SGG



Praised the soldier for his duty, and blamed Obama for HIS ass hattery of using soldiers as a perpetual campaign prop.


BIG difference in the two. Sorry you're confused over this matter.

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Thursday, October 29, 2015 5:06 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Nope, not confused. Just wondering about your thinking on the matter. So, if a soldier dies - POTUS is to blame. And if the mission fails, POTUS is to blame. But if it's a success - nothing, he's still an asshat. Got it, TFC (total fucking chaos).

BTW, Obama is on his last term. He can't run again, you do know that right!?


SGG


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
This is a very schizophrenic post Rap. How can you criticize and praise Obama in the same post!?


SGG



Praised the soldier for his duty, and blamed Obama for HIS ass hattery of using soldiers as a perpetual campaign prop.


BIG difference in the two. Sorry you're confused over this matter.


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Thursday, October 29, 2015 5:19 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Well, seeing as how the rightwing is convinced that he's a Kenyan Muslim Marxist (not sure how all of those go together logically) he could probably get away with a lot less than the overtly white Anglo-Saxon Protestant Presidents before him.
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Well, it's the old double standard. White guys can do what they want (steal a few million, right this way sir - Club Riviera). A Harvard Law Professor wins the Grand Prize and "oh, he couldn't have won that without cheating! How dare he out-think,
out-do and thoroughly spank our White Hope at our own game."

Bush, Bush II, Reagan and Clinton all kissed King Abdullah's ring, yet Obama is the Muslim American turncoat. That other stuff I know nothing about, so I can't comment.


SGG

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Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:26 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:

This is one of several such missions and your latching onto this so you can attack our commander and chief says lots about your false patriotism.




It's the only mission ( so far ) that a US soldier has been KIA while fighting ISIS, after Obama said we'd not make use of US combat forces on the ground.

Sorry, but he was a US combat member, and he was , on the ground.

You're getting pissy and hurling insults because I posted Obama's own words ?

That's rich.



I take it then you're not happy we went into Syria and captured the main ISIS money man a month or so ago?

Just looking to see where you stand on how we should take on ISIS. It appears you don't want our special forces involved in Syria or Iraq at all. Is this true?

It appears that since our commander and chief says he does not want to have our troops on the ground fighting, and that he wishes to let Muslims lead the way and clean up their own mess, that you're against even one American solider getting involved. Is this true?


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Friday, October 30, 2015 5:14 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Funny thing THGRRI, is that people criticize Obama for not having a plan to combat ISIS and yet here we have a strategic and surgical strike, and yet people still complain.

"He didn't keep his word."

It amazes me just how simple-minded people seem to be. It wouldn't do much good to announce to the world that we're leaving troops behind to fight ISIS. Do you think that would be telegraphing our intent? Wouldn't that take away the element of surprise? Surgical strikes assisting the Kurds was a brilliant idea (whoever came up with it), but the president gave it the green light. And I say BRAVO!


SGG

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Friday, October 30, 2015 5:21 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Just looking to see where you stand on how we should take on ISIS. It appears you don't want our special forces involved in Syria or Iraq at all. Is this true?


First of all, since Syria doesn't want the USA "involved" in Syria, any "involvement" that the USA gets into will be illegal. By YOUR standards, it would be an "invasion".

And just as an aside, whyizzit that the USA thinks it can decide which leaders should "go" and which leaders can "stay". I mean, who made us King of the World?


There's something interesting going on in Syria, that you haven't detected, and it leads to some interesting thoughts about what "our" soldiers might be doing there.

The Kurds are a culturally united (but politically separated) people who live in Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey. They make up some of the most effect anti-ISIS fighting forces, whether located in Syria or Iraq.

in Syria (YPG is the armed group) are extremely effective anti-ISIS fighters. However, since Turkey has been battling a Kurdish independence movement within its own borders (PKK) it doesn't have a problem with bombing Kurds in Syria. https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-the-PKK-PYD-YPG-K
RG-KDP-and-the-Peshmerga
Illegal, because one nation (Turkey) is bombing another (Syria), and also another indication how Turkey supports ISIS in Syria.

What the USA says it wants to do is put armed groups in Syria (again, illegal, the Syrian government hasn't asked for our "help") but the question is ... where would these troops operate??? Since we refuse to cooperate with the Syrian government, they can't go to Damascus-controlled territory. And since finding "moderate rebels" is well-nigh impossible, and it would be folly just to dump off our troops in completely hostile ISIS-held territory, the only place American troops could operate from would be with the Syrian Kurds .... where they might be bombed by Turkey.

Do you suppose that these American troops - assuming that they actually wind up being deployed in Syria - would be functioning more like hostages?? That is, embedded with the Syrian Kurds to discourage Turkey (our NATO ally) from bombing those areas?

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Also, Iraq has not asked for our "help" in the form that we offer: Apache helicopters and associated forces. In fact, the Iraqi Parliament asked the Russians for help, and they may ultimately and formally ask us to leave. What then?

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I recall saying somewhere on this website, a few months ago, that it seemed as if alliances were fundamentally re-arranging in the Mideast. What I sensed at the time was a Saudi-USA split over ISIS, and oil prices. Unfortunately, in this triangular relationship (Saudi Arabia-ISIS/ USA/ Russia-Iran) if we're not "for" ISIS then we wind up on Russia's "side". Where we don't want to be. So our policy winds up being unsettled.

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Friday, October 30, 2015 6:13 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
This is a very schizophrenic post Rap. How can you criticize and praise Obama in the same post!?


SGG



Praised the soldier for his duty, and blamed Obama for HIS ass hattery of using soldiers as a perpetual campaign prop.


BIG difference in the two. Sorry you're confused over this matter.


sometimes I am humbled, inspired and amazed by your fortitude, persitence, and consistency.

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Friday, October 30, 2015 12:49 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Funny thing THGRRI, is that people criticize Obama for not having a plan to combat ISIS and yet here we have a strategic and surgical strike, and yet people still complain.

"He didn't keep his word."

It amazes me just how simple-minded people seem to be. It wouldn't do much good to announce to the world that we're leaving troops behind to fight ISIS. Do you think that would be telegraphing our intent? Wouldn't that take away the element of surprise? Surgical strikes assisting the Kurds was a brilliant idea (whoever came up with it), but the president gave it the green light. And I say BRAVO!


SGG



It you have an agenda bias always shows up in this way. It' not about policy to the complainers who cherry pick like this, it's about "Obama" but you know that.

They will complain that Obama is capitulating to Russian now that they are in Syria. The truth may be that because the Russian air force is breaking down, the treasure lost by Russia and Iran at a time they can't afford it, and their and Iranian troops dying, is bringing Russia and Iran to the table. Time will tell if the United States played the right cards.

My concern is if the Sunnis think the United States has abandoned them, they may move in greater numbers towards Al Qaeda and ISIS.

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Friday, October 30, 2015 6:49 PM

THGRRI


Obama authorizes boots on ground to fight ISIS

"White House spokesman Josh Earnest said that the U.S. would be deploying "less than 50" Special Operations forces, who will be sent to Kurdish-controlled territory in northern Syria. The American troops will help local Kurdish and Arab forces fighting ISIS with logistics and are planning to bolster their efforts." Special forces are also going to Iraq to do the same thing.

For those of you (SIG, 1kiki) who are incapable of seeing things for what they are. If Russia kills Americans on the ground who are assisting those fighting to oust Assad, the shit will hit the proverbial wall. And where are the Kurds? If you want to know just look at where Russia and turkey are currently bombing.

I think Obama has had enough of comrade half pint.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/30/politics/syria-troops-special-operations
-forces/index.html





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Saturday, October 31, 2015 1:12 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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And where are the Kurds? If you want to know just look at where Russia and turkey are currently bombing.
Links please?

I'm not expecting any, because you have absolutely no evidence for this statement either, pretty much like all of your other pointless "points" and baseless "statements". The Kurds are where Russia is NOT bombing.


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Saturday, October 31, 2015 8:49 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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And where are the Kurds? If you want to know just look at where Russia and turkey are currently bombing.
Links please?

I'm not expecting any, because you have absolutely no evidence for this statement either, pretty much like all of your other pointless "points" and baseless "statements". The Kurds are where Russia is NOT bombing.


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Find your own links SIG, I have no intention of wasting my time conversing seriously with anyone who suffers from reflective psychosis. I've knocked on that door and no one is home.

"US promises $100 million in aid to Syrian opposition to support civil society, local services"

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Saturday, October 31, 2015 11:27 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Find your own links SIG, I have no intention of wasting my time conversing seriously with anyone who suffers from reflective psychosis.
In other words, you've got nothing. You've bent over and are now spraying ass-juice all over the board. How terribly childish and pathetic.

Here is one link that you might find useful, if you have any intention of saying anything even remotely realistic: An apparently pro-rebel website, by Americans and Syrians, based in Jordan, which says no such thing about Russians bombing Kurds:

http://syriadirect.org/news/syria-week-1026-1028/

And internet search of "Russia + bombs + Kurds" shows NO results along those lines. The only nation bombing Kurds right now is Turkey.

So, speaking of turkey, you are one. Sheesh. And BTW, I'm STILL looking to see where those American troops are. I'll bet you dollars to donuts they're with the Kurds, and they're human shields against Turkish ( Our NATO ally) bombs.

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Sunday, November 1, 2015 1:23 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Ah, hero worship...............look the 2 kids are playing nice!


SGG


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
This is a very schizophrenic post Rap. How can you criticize and praise Obama in the same post!?


SGG



Praised the soldier for his duty, and blamed Obama for HIS ass hattery of using soldiers as a perpetual campaign prop.


BIG difference in the two. Sorry you're confused over this matter.


sometimes I am humbled, inspired and amazed by your fortitude, persitence, and consistency.


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Friday, November 6, 2015 4:14 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Find your own links SIG, I have no intention of wasting my time conversing seriously with anyone who suffers from reflective psychosis.
In other words, you've got nothing. You've bent over and are now spraying ass-juice all over the board. How terribly childish and pathetic.

Here is one link that you might find useful, if you have any intention of saying anything even remotely realistic: An apparently pro-rebel website, by Americans and Syrians, based in Jordan, which says no such thing about Russians bombing Kurds:

http://syriadirect.org/news/syria-week-1026-1028/

And internet search of "Russia + bombs + Kurds" shows NO results along those lines. The only nation bombing Kurds right now is Turkey.

So, speaking of turkey, you are one. Sheesh. And BTW, I'm STILL looking to see where those American troops are. I'll bet you dollars to donuts they're with the Kurds, and they're human shields against Turkish ( Our NATO ally) bombs.

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No, it means what I said, not what you want to interpret it as.

"I have no intention of wasting my time conversing seriously with anyone who suffers from reflective psychosis."


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Friday, November 6, 2015 4:31 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


In other words, you've STILL got nothing.

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Saturday, November 7, 2015 2:31 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Also, Iraq has not asked for our "help" in the form that we offer: Apache helicopters and associated forces. In fact, the Iraqi Parliament asked the Russians for help, and they may ultimately and formally ask us to leave. What then?
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It has been reported that the Kurds have asked us for assistance. Last I checked
they're Iraqis. But I do agree it's a mess in the middle east. I'm curious as to
what Congress will NOT do...........stay tuned.


SGG

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Sunday, November 8, 2015 4:53 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Brave Fighter, RIP to the Fallen

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Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:49 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


On this day, Honor to the Fallen and respect to those around the world who serve............

Honor to the Peshmerga!


SGG


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Brave Fighter, RIP to the Fallen


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