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Obama Phones

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Friday, June 19, 2015 7:13 PM

WISHIMAY


I don't know if it was an "Obama Phone" or a Wal-mart thing, but today while I ran in to pick up some assorted sundries, this girl comes up and asks me how I'm doing and "do I have a cell phone?" "do I have a job" "am I low income" and "I bet you would qualify for this program it only takes 60 seconds to see so I'll get it started for you"

Literally in the same breath, mind you.

I was trying to say "I don't OWN a cell phone and DO NOT WISH TO."

I always thought the Obama Phone thing was a joke, but I guess it's nice that the low income in this country can have an extra burner phone when they can't find their IPhone that they left up in da club last night.

That's a fine program.




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Friday, June 19, 2015 8:25 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:

I always thought the Obama Phone thing was a joke . . .

The Federal Communication Commission implemented the Lifeline benefit program for income-eligible consumers in 1984. Isn't that before Obama was born? www.fcc.gov/lifeline

That program had two parts: Lifeline Assistance, which
provided discounts on basic monthly landline telephone service at the primary residence of qualified telephone subscribers, and Lifeline Link-Up, which provided discounts on the initial installation fee for landline telephone service at the primary residence of qualified telephone subscribers.

As cell phone usage has increased and cell phone service fees have dropped, the Lifeline program has been expanded to include wireless technology. Prepaid cell phone companies have spun off government-approved subsidiaries (such as Safelink Wireless, Assurance Wireless, and Reachout Wireless) to specialize in providing Lifeline-covered telephone services to qualifying participants. www.lifelinesupport.org/ls/eligibility/default.aspx

From that basic framework, rumors have circulated, claiming that "the Obama administration created a program to give free cell phones paid for by taxpayer money to welfare recipients." All the elements of such statements are erroneous or exaggerated. www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, June 19, 2015 9:07 PM

WISHIMAY


Yeah, I don't care about the "Obama" part of the Obama Phones, but should Wally world really be trying to aggressively shove these things at people so they can make a few bucks and pilfer gov't programs as much as they possibly can...is what I'm askin'.

Couple weeks ago another employee came up and was pretending to be nice and helpful (shoulda been a sign, I know) and then started peddling their credit card as hard as she could.

Seems Wally world is now gleefully embracing their role as biggest leech on the planet...

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Friday, June 19, 2015 9:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Hey Wish

I got rid of my Cell phone back in February. T-Mobile stopped doing their "lifeline" program and they were happy to charge me $70 a month again if I wanted to keep my number.

I barely ever used my cell phone after I got Magic Jack. There was no way I was going to pay more per month with my income than I pay for Gas and Electric combined on a regular non-winter month....

I thought it was funny a few years back when people didn't believe me when I said that I can't text on my phone.

The look on their faces when I say that I don't have a cell phone at all is priceless.

Call my home phone. If I'm not home leave a message. If you're too good for that, fuck you. Period.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, June 19, 2015 10:09 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

The look on their faces when I say that I don't have a cell phone at all is priceless.

Call my home phone. If I'm not home leave a message. If you're too good for that, fuck you. Period.

The Best Cheap Prepaid Phone Plans You've Never Heard Of By Sascha Segan May 19, 2015 www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375644,00.asp

Republic Wireless is visionary, and it won our Readers' Choice award for it. Republic was the leader in merging Wi-Fi calling with cellular to dramatically drop rates, and even though it uses Sprint's network when out of the house and has very limited phone selection, its customers love it.

Republic's secret is that the carrier desperately hopes you'll do most of your calling, texting, and data usage over Wi-Fi, keeping its costs down. That way, it can offer a $10/month unlimited talk and text plan. $25 adds 5GB of slow 3G Sprint data. $40 gives you 5GB of Sprint LTE. All plans also include unlimited free Wi-Fi calling from anywhere in the world, which is useful for international travelers.

Republic only has two phones, but one of them is an absolute killer. The Moto X is an excellent smartphone, and $299 is a solid price for it. Just be aware that Republic uses special firmware, so its phones can't be transferred to other carriers. http://republicwireless.com/phones/

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Friday, June 19, 2015 10:23 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Hey Second,

I appreciate that link. It only makes sense that with the online phone G4 bandwidth we have today that this would be possible.

I paid 100 bucks for 5 years of home phone service with Magic Jack just a little over a year ago instead of paying 35 bucks or more a month.


My whole point is that I'm happy not to have a cell phone.

I was the first mother fucker to have one as a 19 year old back in 1998. It cost a fortune back then but I just HAD TO HAVE IT.

Nobody has to have it.
Freeing yourself from a cell phone is like a dog kicking off its collar.

I'm one of only probably 2,000 35 year old males without a cell phone in America today.

We are more free than you could ever imagine.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, June 19, 2015 11:46 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Nobody has to have it.
Freeing yourself from a cell phone is like a dog kicking off its collar.



Aww, it's nice to see you make sense in between rants.


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Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:53 AM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody has to have it.
Freeing yourself from a cell phone is like a dog kicking off its collar.

I'm one of only probably 2,000 35 year old males without a cell phone in America today.

We are more free than you could ever imagine.



Free to get home and hear a messaj from 1/4 mile away from where you were and now you gotta drive 20 milez to get back there during rush hour. With the return trip, it will only be 2 hourz plus gas thats wasted. Freedom!


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Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:02 AM

THGRRI


The problem with prepaid plains is that you only get a certain period of time to use the minutes you purchase. It you have any left in some cases you can roll them over but you still have to renew and purchase new minutes even if you don't need to. I have a cell phone that has 178 minutes left on it but no service because I ran out of the allotted time to use them and did not want to buy more. It's a gimmick and bullshit. You still wind up paying to much for a phone you barley use.


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Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:09 AM

WHOZIT



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Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:33 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I have a cell phone for emergencies, as does our daughter and husband.

And then, dear daughter discovered the joys of texting! Well, not too happy about getting a dozen texts a day, (and I have to wonder how many texts OTHER people get!) but given everything, at least she's communicating!

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Saturday, June 20, 2015 4:06 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:


Free to get home and hear a messaj from 1/4 mile away from where you were and now you gotta drive 20 milez to get back there during rush hour. With the return trip, it will only be 2 hourz plus gas thats wasted. Freedom!



I've never had that happen.

I leave the house with a grocery list and if I don't get something I get it next week. I sure wouldn't drive back for anything.

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Saturday, June 20, 2015 4:42 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
I always thought the Obama Phone thing was a joke, but I guess it's nice that the low income in this country can have an extra burner phone when they can't find their IPhone that they left up in da club last night.

That's a fine program.




Yes, it was nice of our greatest President ever, Ronald Wilson Reagan, to enact the Lifeline program so low income citizens wold not become disenfranchised as a result of the decline of the landline phone. Of course such a fine idea needed to be hijacked by Obama as his own.

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Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:23 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:



Your not being able to look at the woman in the video objectively and ascertain from her behavior and perceptions her limited capabilities, shows you function at roughly the same level.


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Saturday, June 20, 2015 6:47 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
so low income citizens wold not become disenfranchised as a result of the decline of the landline phone. Of course such a fine idea needed to be hijacked by Obama as his own.



Seems to me that phone service programs belong in the time of Reagan. I would think internet access would best serve the low income now?

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Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:43 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
so low income citizens wold not become disenfranchised as a result of the decline of the landline phone. Of course such a fine idea needed to be hijacked by Obama as his own.



Seems to me that phone service programs belong in the time of Reagan. I would think internet access would best serve the low income now?



I get what you are trying to say but you cannot dial 911 over the internet. Skype won't do it. Magic Jack won't either.


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Sunday, June 21, 2015 4:36 AM

JO753

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I dont know about skype, but youre rong about Majik Jack.

I hav Ooma, wich iz also a VOIP fone and hav called 911 quite a few timez.

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Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:22 PM

WISHIMAY


Either way, paying for a phone and monthly charges for a decade or two on the off-chance you MIGHT need to call police seems really outdated.

But, hey, if we didn't give people phones, the gumiment would have to find some other way to monitor those people.

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Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:24 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
...911 quite a few timez.



Ruf naberhood??


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Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:05 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Great explanation.................my guess those rumors started at Fox, but I don't know that for a fact.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:

I always thought the Obama Phone thing was a joke . . .

The Federal Communication Commission implemented the Lifeline benefit program for income-eligible consumers in 1984. Isn't that before Obama was born? www.fcc.gov/lifeline

That program had two parts: Lifeline Assistance, which
provided discounts on basic monthly landline telephone service at the primary residence of qualified telephone subscribers, and Lifeline Link-Up, which provided discounts on the initial installation fee for landline telephone service at the primary residence of qualified telephone subscribers.

As cell phone usage has increased and cell phone service fees have dropped, the Lifeline program has been expanded to include wireless technology. Prepaid cell phone companies have spun off government-approved subsidiaries (such as Safelink Wireless, Assurance Wireless, and Reachout Wireless) to specialize in providing Lifeline-covered telephone services to qualifying participants. www.lifelinesupport.org/ls/eligibility/default.aspx

From that basic framework, rumors have circulated, claiming that "the Obama administration created a program to give free cell phones paid for by taxpayer money to welfare recipients." All the elements of such statements are erroneous or exaggerated. www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:50 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Great explanation.................my guess those rumors started at Fox, but I don't know that for a fact. SGG

It was a whispering campaign spread by email. I've got two sources for that with samples of the emails:
www.freegovernmentcellphones.net/faq/obama-phone
www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

I might be so mean as to say that Republican voters, not just their elected party members, have a baseline problem with ethics and truthfulness despite their claims to be so superior. Misinformation and misleading statements are the very air they breath out.

Who pays for these free cell phones?

Everyone who owns a telephone pays. A few cents is tacked on to every phone bill every month. It’s listed on those bills as the Universal Service Fund. All those pennies are put into a program called LifeLine to bring quality telephone service to every American.

In 1996 Congress passed the Telecommunications Act of 1996, which states that all providers of telecommunications services should contribute to federal universal service in some equitable and nondiscriminatory manner. The next year, in 1997, the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC) created the Universal Service Fund (USF) to meet the goals of the Telecommunications Act just passed.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, July 1, 2015 11:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:

Free to get home and hear a messaj from 1/4 mile away from where you were and now you gotta drive 20 milez to get back there during rush hour. With the return trip, it will only be 2 hourz plus gas thats wasted. Freedom!



Don't know what your deal is there JO, but I spent $20 bucks on gas last month. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 1, 2015 11:59 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
I dont know about skype, but youre rong about Majik Jack.

I hav Ooma, wich iz also a VOIP fone and hav called 911 quite a few timez.

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I REALLY want to dial 911 on my Magic Jack right now to see if it works, but I've had enough 2nd hand police brutality today. :)

I can't imagine that Magic Jack wouldn't allow you to dial 911 though. How could any phone service provider not be required to allow you access to emergency?

There's 0% chance that I couldn't dial 911 right now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 2, 2015 11:10 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

There's 0% chance that I couldn't dial 911 right now.

While “911” is easy to remember, there is another choice. Add the direct number for Police Dispatch to your phone memory.

VoIP Limitations www.ellago-tx.com/165/VoIP-Phone-Services-Notice
Consumers are trading in their traditional phone service for Internet telephone service due to low costs and unlimited calling packages. Unfortunately, many citizens are not aware of the following limitations of this type of phone service as it applies to 911 emergency calling:

911 service may not be offered at all and may need to be activated if available.
Even when activated, emergency calls will not go directly into the 911 system, but to nonemergency administrative lines at the dispatch call center.
911 dispatchers may not have the capability to identify the caller's location or call back number.
If the power is out, VoIP telephone service may also be out.
If a VoIP adapter is used in a location outside of the home, 911 may not work.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, July 2, 2015 3:43 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


My mom iz not in good shape, so needz to go to the hospital fairly often.

I dont know if the automatic address locating feature works with Ooma or not. Big deal! so I gotta tell them the adress.

The Ooma wuz 125$. Thats about 2 months uv regular fone charjez. I only pay the local tax, about 5$ now. I've had it for over 2 yirz, so have saved more than 1,200$.

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Thursday, July 2, 2015 7:51 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
My mom iz not in good shape, so needz to go to the hospital fairly often.




I sympathize, to you and her. Two visits was enough for me for a lifetime.

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Thursday, July 2, 2015 8:47 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
so low income citizens wold not become disenfranchised as a result of the decline of the landline phone. Of course such a fine idea needed to be hijacked by Obama as his own.



Seems to me that phone service programs belong in the time of Reagan. I would think internet access would best serve the low income now?


If you meant "time of the ending of hardline phones, transitioning to wireless phones" which was the purpose of Reagan's program, then you would be correct. Not sure if that was what you meant, though.

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Sunday, July 5, 2015 9:25 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

There's 0% chance that I couldn't dial 911 right now.

While “911” is easy to remember, there is another choice. Add the direct number for Police Dispatch to your phone memory.

VoIP Limitations www.ellago-tx.com/165/VoIP-Phone-Services-Notice
Consumers are trading in their traditional phone service for Internet telephone service due to low costs and unlimited calling packages. Unfortunately, many citizens are not aware of the following limitations of this type of phone service as it applies to 911 emergency calling:

911 service may not be offered at all and may need to be activated if available.
Even when activated, emergency calls will not go directly into the 911 system, but to nonemergency administrative lines at the dispatch call center.
911 dispatchers may not have the capability to identify the caller's location or call back number.
If the power is out, VoIP telephone service may also be out.
If a VoIP adapter is used in a location outside of the home, 911 may not work.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Since we're all forced to pay for healthcare and beef at $5/lb, I gotta cut out expenses where I can.

My Magic Jack cost $100 for 5 years, or 60 months. That's $1.67 a month as opposed to the $70 per month I used to pay for my cell phone. I don't have a home phone otherwise, so let's keep it simple and call that $100 a month savings. Take the Cable TV I don't pay for and add another $70 a month.

In the 5 years I have only Magic Jack and no Cable TV subscription, that's a savings of $10,200 bucks. After taxes the last 3 years, that's more money than I made in any of those years.

Had I paid for a phone and cable TV for the last 2 years I've been using Magic Jack, that would have been 1/5th of my income spent on bullshit I don't need to spend it on.....

FUCK 911 charges.

Thank you for the alternative means though. I will be adding my local emergency contact on my speed dial. It won't matter if something happens where I can't even pick up a phone, but I'm sure my neighbors will smell me eventually if that happened.

I don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon. The human body is pretty resiliant, and I only turn 36 next month. The human mind however, is a fickle thing...

If I ever "take the easy way out", I'll do it like my uncle did with a bunch of plastic sheeting being my last purchase before the money ran out to make the cleanup easy, and as a courtesy let somebody know they might want to check the garage at their earliest convenience.

In the 36 years I've been alive, I've never once dialed 911. I'm willing to spin the roulette wheel for at least another two decades if it means $20,000 worth of savings. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 5, 2015 9:50 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

If you meant "time of the ending of hardline phones, transitioning to wireless phones" which was the purpose of Reagan's program, then you would be correct. Not sure if that was what you meant, though.



NO, I meant that for the low income free internet would probably be more beneficial than free phone.
Internet= information, jobs, social media, education, online training, social services, foodbanks, ect. Things that could possibly help them NOT be low income.

Landline= talkie talkie and 911.


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Monday, July 6, 2015 3:40 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


That's actually a good idea.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

If you meant "time of the ending of hardline phones, transitioning to wireless phones" which was the purpose of Reagan's program, then you would be correct. Not sure if that was what you meant, though.



NO, I meant that for the low income free internet would probably be more beneficial than free phone.
Internet= information, jobs, social media, education, online training, social services, foodbanks, ect. Things that could possibly help them NOT be low income.

Landline= talkie talkie and 911.



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Monday, July 6, 2015 11:52 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


If I ever "take the easy way out", I'll do it like my uncle did with a bunch of plastic sheeting being my last purchase before the money ran out to make the cleanup easy, and as a courtesy let somebody know they might want to check the garage at their earliest convenience.

In the 36 years I've been alive, I've never once dialed 911. I'm willing to spin the roulette wheel for at least another two decades if it means $20,000 worth of savings. :)



I always wanted to get a rowboat with a corked hole in it, and row it far out to sea, tie myself to the boat, and uncork it. Leaving behind a video will of course. Unfortunately, hubby has a massive fear of drowning. He's always said he would like to go by setting himself on fire because some idiot(that survived it) said it was kinda peaceful. I can't imagine all your nerves burning off could ever be peaceful?

I used to dial 911 about every other weekend when I worked at a gas station on nightshift. I remember one time the cops were all standing around on break when this one car screeched into the parking lot and sped off and they started to go after it but decided not to, turns out the next morning that chick was totally drunk and ended up dead after she drove off the road into a lake and drowned. It's scary how many drunks there are out there on weekends drivin' around. And then there was the time we got hit by a drunk driver on my birthday, and the time I caught a dumb black kid breaking into cars. Yep. I've called lots of times...

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Monday, July 6, 2015 12:04 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
That's actually a good idea.
SGG




Then you know our gov't will never use it

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Monday, July 6, 2015 1:31 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


All you need for 911 iz a cell fone. You dont need a contract with any carrier at all. I woud keep an old wun in my glove compartment, exept my car woud kill it in a week. (anything that keeps time)

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Monday, July 6, 2015 9:52 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"All you need for 911 iz a cell fone.'


I just want to point out that anywhere in CA if you dial 911 from your cell phone you'll be connected to the CHP, not the local 911 call center. Since I've had to dial 911 from my cell phone a few times, I can attest that my experience has been mostly negative - with major accidents, fires or other events swamping the system. If you're depending on timely assistance from your 911 cell phone call, you have a good chance of getting a busy signal for 20 minutes or more.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Wednesday, July 15, 2015 2:37 PM

WISHIMAY


https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/obama-focus-economy-visit-choctaw-nation-
071632300--politics.html


Wow. Ok. Who here works for the Obama Administration, because this is like the third time I make a suggestion and within weeks it happens????

Remember when I said they should give Ebola to Isis and it happened?

Now, they just need to point China into war with N. Korea and my evil plans for fixing the planet will finish stage one...



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Wednesday, July 15, 2015 6:27 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"All you need for 911 iz a cell fone.'


I just want to point out that anywhere in CA if you dial 911 from your cell phone you'll be connected to the CHP, not the local 911 call center. Since I've had to dial 911 from my cell phone a few times, I can attest that my experience has been mostly negative - with major accidents, fires or other events swamping the system. If you're depending on timely assistance from your 911 cell phone call, you have a good chance of getting a busy signal for 20 minutes or more.


That is a big improvement.
When I called 911 from Manchester/Inglewood for our apartment building fire, nobody who answered could speak English, or understand it. We called like 5 times, never any success. No cell phones then.

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Wednesday, July 15, 2015 6:29 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/obama-focus-economy-visit-choctaw-nation-
071632300--politics.html


Wow. Ok. Who here works for the Obama Administration, because this is like the third time I make a suggestion and within weeks it happens????

Remember when I said they should give Ebola to Isis and it happened?

Now, they just need to point China into war with N. Korea and my evil plans for fixing the planet will finish stage one...


Overbearing evil Communist empire warring with it's obedient evil Communist puppet regime? How's that work?

You thought of that after the Christians warring against Christians template was imported to the Muslims warring against Muslims plan?

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Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:19 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Overbearing evil Communist empire warring with it's obedient evil Communist puppet regime? How's that work?

You thought of that after the Christians warring against Christians template was imported to the Muslims warring against Muslims plan?



Hell yeah! Factions of stupid are all kinds of fun to watch!

And two, China has been distancing themselves from N korea over the last two years because Fatboy is pretty much a disgrace from every angle(they've even had a couple tiffs lately), and with the drought he's just another complication they don't like hanging around. All it would take is a poke and he'll snap like a twig.



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Wednesday, July 15, 2015 10:35 PM

WISHIMAY


Stage Two is imposing drastic population control on any area with high crime rates. All people in those areas would have the option of relocation or sterilization.

Stage Three involves testing every single person on the planet for STDs and DNA identification and executing anyone who does not submit. ESPECIALLY those who whine about needles.

Step Four involves coming up with a new impartial language that is super easy to learn and implement it worldwide along with establishing a new World-wide Religion based on Logic and Moderation that involves shaping your ears into points. Holidays will be phased out in favor of "Free to do what you logically want to do days" One every month!

Step Five means getting rid of Daylight savings.


There. Now the planet is perfect. And Vulcan! Just picture the "Battle to the death" foreplay rituals! Monks robes are in style!














"It is NOT our mission to impose Federation or Earth values on any others in the Galaxy" -Captain Jean-Luc Picard

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Wednesday, July 15, 2015 11:59 PM

WISHIMAY




Damn I miss beer.















Damn, I miss the Old Spock. The new one just doesn't do it for me.

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Thursday, July 16, 2015 2:17 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


No daylite savingz?

You got my vote!


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Thursday, July 16, 2015 9:45 PM

WISHIMAY


Maybe it would just be easier to find a new planet...

Click the link to go to a new planet.


http://www.bbc.com/future/bespoke/20140304-how-big-is-space-interactiv
e
/


"It is NOT our mission to impose Federation or Earth values on any others in the Galaxy" -Captain Jean-Luc Picard

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Friday, July 17, 2015 5:45 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Stage Two is imposing drastic population control on any area with high crime rates. All people in those areas would have the option of relocation or sterilization.


That's racist. And Eugenics. Already tried by the Nazis, and many other dictators, mostly communists.
Quote:


Stage Three involves testing every single person on the planet for STDs and DNA identification and executing anyone who does not submit. ESPECIALLY those who whine about needles.


Quite the tyrant you are. Didn't know you were quite that crazy.
Quote:


Step Four involves coming up with a new impartial language that is super easy to learn and implement it worldwide along with establishing a new World-wide Religion based on Logic and Moderation that involves shaping your ears into points. Holidays will be phased out in favor of "Free to do what you logically want to do days" One every month!


Like Esperanza? Any you will discard history? Abandon all historic languages?
Quote:


Step Five means getting rid of Daylight savings.


Well, you were bound to get one reasonable idea out of 5.

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Saturday, July 18, 2015 6:11 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Maybe it would just be easier to find a new planet...

Click the link to go to a new planet.


http://www.bbc.com/future/bespoke/20140304-how-big-is-space-interactiv
e
/




Kool. xanks.

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Saturday, July 18, 2015 12:13 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So, having scrolled thru the thread, I takes it that ...

There is no such thing as an "Obama phone"? That one EXTREMELY ignorant black woman mouthing off about it, does not make it a fact?

That landlines with the corded handset, which have their own power source (NOT the 120 V AC coming to your house) are a second possible means of summoning help, when the regular power is out?

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JEWELSF- we have something in common: I used to live in the Manchester/Inglewood area!


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BTW- the very first thing that I thought when I saw the video was that ... yep, when you have a nation that doesn't value education, you get a nation of the uneducated. That woman sounded as loutish and ignorant as any gap-toothed rightwing evangelical hick. Both sound like they haven't spent more than a couple years in school, and none of them have cracked a book... ever.



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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

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Saturday, July 18, 2015 3:40 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, having scrolled thru the thread, I takes it that ...

There is no such thing as an "Obama phone"?


Not really true. Does the fact that every person who voted for Obama is EXTREMELY ignorant mean that he is not president? if half the population believes there is an Obama Phone, then it exists, if only in their delusional drug-addled minds.
Quote:


That one EXTREMELY ignorant black woman mouthing off about it, does not make it a fact?


Not ONE. Millions.
Quote:


That landlines with the corded handset, which have their own power source (NOT the 120 V AC coming to your house) are a second possible means of summoning help, when the regular power is out?


A huge number of those now are essentially multiplexers, with the pushbuttons controlled by the computer (circuitry) within, plus filters between the wall and your phone/computer/cable/etc.
The old plain handset and direct connection to the wall, yes.
Quote:


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JEWELSF- we have something in common: I used to live in the Manchester/Inglewood area!


While working at LAX, we lived in that big complex under the incoming flight path for LAX, I think it was Bedford Arms. Rent was so cheap because some people thought there was noise from the birds overhead. Since we worked all night 20 feet from those screaming jets we were like "what noise?" That was the best place to live, ever. Half the apartments had about 9 stewardesses each for residences, so the pool, BBQ pit, volleyball pit, and aerobics room looked like model shoots. And those stews never were there at the same time, so they never knew they were all dating the same guy or 2. The entire time I lived there, we had a party or BBQ or both every single weekend.

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Sunday, April 24, 2016 10:54 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:


Seems to me that phone service programs belong in the time of Reagan. I would think internet access would best serve the low income now?



http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/22/technology/access-from-att-digital-div
ide/index.html?section=money_latest


Yup.

Good job AT&T...


These programs help close the so-called "digital divide" for families who would otherwise be forced to rely on school connections or cell phones. A lack of reliable internet access can have countless negative implications, including for students who need it to complete homework and adults who are searching for jobs.

In March, the FCC voted to expand its Lifeline program and add a $9.25 subsidy that could go toward broadband internet for low-income households. Another government initiative called ConnectALL wants to bring internet access to 20 million homes by 2020.

Access from AT&T will offer 3Mbps connections for $5 a month, and faster 5Mbps or 10Mbps connections for $10 a month. All installation and equipment fees will also be waived. People don't actually get to choose their speed, they'll automatically be assigned the fastest available where they live.


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Sunday, April 24, 2016 4:16 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
All you need for 911 iz a cell fone. You dont need a contract with any carrier at all. I woud keep an old wun in my glove compartment, exept my car woud kill it in a week. (anything that keeps time)



Classic posted proof that this character does not reside in the real world.

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Sunday, April 24, 2016 4:32 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
so low income citizens wold not become disenfranchised as a result of the decline of the landline phone. Of course such a fine idea needed to be hijacked by Obama as his own.



Seems to me that phone service programs belong in the time of Reagan. I would think internet access would best serve the low income now?


If you meant "time of the ending of hardline phones, transitioning to wireless phones" which was the purpose of Reagan's program, then you would be correct. Not sure if that was what you meant, though.


"Best serve the low income population."
Let's see.
Cell phone - about $10 for the cheapest plan. Looks good for low income, not much waste.
Landline phone, where 911 knows exactly where you are and can respond as quickly as resources allow. Seems about $30 per month. Looks like second best for low income.

Internet access phone. Buy a computer - figure $100 for low income, or $700, depending how savvy they are. Get a hardline connection to your computer (same as above, figure $30/month), or rent a cable to your domicile, for what, $40-80 per month? Then get your phone to connect to your computer? perhaps $10. Outside urban areas, probably need some form of dish, also might be up to $80 per month.
So, $140-800 to start, plus $30-80 every month after.

Compared to about $10 or $30. For LOW INCOME people.
Sure, you are really a genius. Why didn't everybody else think of this? Why have not the LOW INCOME populations pounced on such a brilliant idea as this? The ability to waste gobs of money on useless gadgets and trinkets is lost upon the LOW INCOME unwashed.

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Monday, April 25, 2016 3:58 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:


Compared to about $10 or $30. For LOW INCOME people.
Sure, you are really a genius. Why didn't everybody else think of this? Why have not the low income populations pounced on such a brilliant idea as this? The ability to waste gobs of money on useless gadgets and trinkets is lost upon the LOW INCOME unwashed.



Well, that was bitchy.

It's my experience that the low income ALREADY HAVE a computer or smartphone. Hell, my 90 yr old granny has two and no one is more frugal than her. Homeless people can usually even wrangle $20 a month. I don't know if you are incapable of understanding how useful access to the internet can be for people who otherwise couldn't get it or if you just think "low income" means "no disposable income" which you would be sorely mistaken...

Even in our rural area, the kids here still use wifi to do homework, and I'm sure this program would help a lot of parents provide that.

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