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Hands up of everyone who thinks Bill Cosby raped his way through his career??

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Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:40 PM

WISHIMAY


Yep. I do.


I read that Janice Dickenson has come out with it now, certainly might explain a bit of her behaviors. Someone suggested in the comment section that maybe that's why Lisa Bonet left the show too. He certainly sounds pervy enough to make me wanna leave.

It's sad, the guy was damn funny. But since I think most people are pure crap, not really tooo surprising. And it's funny now, the whole "black people need to hold themselves to a higher standard" comment from a couple years ago. Really damn ironic. Wonder if he felt like a hypocrite saying that, at all???

Also, does anyone know when rape kits became widely used? I thought it was early 90's, but not sure. All I know is these women are getting blamed for not going to get a rape kit done in the 70's and 80's which I don't think they had those then?? I know some of the more progressive departments did even in the fifties, but I thought that was rare?

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Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:58 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Dunno. I hope not. But I do find it curious that only after Cosby is the most vocal against the glaring failures of blacks, do these claims come out against him. Seriously, this man has seen the black community regress over the past 50 years, says something about it , and gets hit with these accusations .

Gibbs Rule # 39...

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:59 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


"Glaring failure of blacks.." ????????????????????

Fuckin' ell. No wonder there are riots in Ferguson.

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:55 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
"Glaring failure of blacks.." ????????????????????

Fuckin' ell. No wonder there are riots in Ferguson.



Colossal disconnect. There's zero reason for there to be riots in Ferguson, but what Bill Cosby ( who is black ) says about other blacks in this nation is wholly valid.

( Silly intro to start, but he gets right into the point,soon after )





Blacks have already won many battles, and yet they fall backwards, and act as if every minor achievement they see today is some historic " first " . The Williams sisters ? Great story, but they're not the first blacks to break into the tennis world. Not by long shot. More homes broken up, fewer INDIVIDUALS making names for themselves, and more folks on welfare, more giving bogus excuses, wasting time on trivial matters. HE is saying that, not me, not 'whitey', because he's SEEN it.

Sometimes, the truth hurts, and it's easier to strike out at the messenger than to do something to make yourself better.

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 12:50 PM

WISHIMAY


Not to derail the pointless black vs white thing, but now he comes out and says Janice is lying. I think it interesting that he would come out and say that he didn't do THAT ONE, but not say anything about the others?

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:07 PM

OLDGUY

What Would Mal do ?


This next comment won't swallow easily either...but i own a successful business that serves the music entertainment industry. As such I enjoy watching people..both the famous and those who want to be in the game.

I have observed many many MANY a woman from obvious lap sitting and ridiculous levels of open tease, to some who just flat out pull their tops off stageside in order to gain favor or possible backstage access.

I've watched them pretend to be stumbling drunk..ie "hey.. I'm easy and availably vunerable" ...

and I've watched some who are far more calculating...high end dressing, working their way carefully through the system in hopes of landing a part of gaining access to the industry movers n shakers.

I've sat and talked with major artists who won't let a woman near them when they are on tour for fear of the damage to their reputation and legal liability.

So, do i believe ol Cosby is not the "all American dad" ?...yep.. he was an entertainer...given great privilege and opportunity, popularity, wealth, a lot of lonely road time and lovely women coming on to him in both subtle and not so subtle ways.

That facts may be that he preferred his "dates" to be a tad extra high and loose, doesn't negate the fact that the women had drinks and pills apparently, with him....I love the one story where one of the alleged victims even states that she had a glass of wine and complained of a tummy ache so he gave her a pill...yeah, right...like that's the truth.

Look, I get that some ladies are more innocent in this and that no amount of tease, etc warrants drugged rape...but 50 years down the road, trying to sort out who was ready to pull their skirt up a bit for Bill then, but didn't get what their big shot in the industry...maybe cause they couldn't sing or act worth a dang...vs women who truly thought they were somehow fortunate enough that the heavens had aligned themselves so that they were actually building a professional relationship with a major entertainer....naw...most of this is very old news..and great grandpa creeper Cosby ain't worth all the headline airtime that's being shed while hundreds die in our streets, and thousands die around the world..including attrocities that even a petty thief like Mal could not stand by and allow.

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:42 PM

WISHIMAY


I always think it's a good thing to bring people down a peg.

Am I going to ignore that he was possibly a serial rapist just because he was funny? Nope.

Am I going to pretend all of these women were loose and had it coming because they were really naïve and took pills way too readily?
Sorry, just don't buy that.

"Constand's lawyers produced 11 more women who claimed Cosby had assaulted them, bringing the total number of accusers to 13. The suit was eventually settled, and, as part of that agreement, the plaintiff agreed not to discuss her allegations publicly."

This was from an article I read this morning,(somewhere called "The Vox") and as of today we're up to 16 women. That's a whole lotta accusations, and I don't think it does anyone (besides the accused) any good to ignore them. Plus, it goes back to my argument that there are a lot more rapes and rapists in this country than people think. Some number estimate up to a million a year. Women need to know. They need to stop being so naïve and trusting and get a clue. So yeah, I'm glad this is coming out now.

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 3:11 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
"Glaring failure of blacks.." ????????????????????

Fuckin' ell. No wonder there are riots in Ferguson.



Colossal disconnect. There's zero reason for there to be riots in Ferguson, but what Bill Cosby ( who is black ) says about other blacks in this nation is wholly valid.

( Silly intro to start, but he gets right into the point,soon after )





Blacks have already won many battles, and yet they fall backwards, and act as if every minor achievement they see today is some historic " first " . The Williams sisters ? Great story, but they're not the first blacks to break into the tennis world. Not by long shot. More homes broken up, fewer INDIVIDUALS making names for themselves, and more folks on welfare, more giving bogus excuses, wasting time on trivial matters. HE is saying that, not me, not 'whitey', because he's SEEN it.

Sometimes, the truth hurts, and it's easier to strike out at the messenger than to do something to make yourself better.




Re Cosby. Not a lot to say. If there is evidence, bring it on. It wouldn't be the first time that someone in the entertainment industry felt they were given a no consequences card along with the fame.

Re you comments, Rap. Makes me sick, it really does. I hope you do not speak for the majority of Americans are a just an internet crazy, but if there are many more of your ilk, no wonder the riots.....

I'm not sure what's most offensive, I still recoil at the term 'blacks', but maybe that's a cultural thing here. But also lumping so many people in the one basket, cause you know I'm sure that there is no one basket for African Americans who may be poor, middle class, wealthy, powerful, disenfranchised, successful, hardworking, lazy, drug addled, athletic, moral, immoral. A bit as weird as lumping 'whites' together.


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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 3:17 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


"It is hard to believe that Bill Cosby is a serial rapist because the belief doesn't just indict Cosby, it indicts us. It damns us for drawing intimate conclusions about people based on pudding-pop commercials and popular TV shows. It destroys our ability to lean on icons for our morality. And it forces us back into a world where seemingly good men do unspeakably evil things, and this is just the chaos of human history." -- http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/11/the-cosby-sho
w/382891
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 5:32 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

Re you comments, Rap. Makes me sick, it really does. I hope you do not speak for the majority of Americans are a just an internet crazy, but if there are many more of your ilk, no wonder the riots.....



Why ? And what do riots ever achieve ? Destruction of private property, usually by idiots from OUTSIDE of a community, who then leave, while those who remain are forced to pick up the pieces.

Reginald Denny. Ring a bell ? Look it up, if you need to. Completely innocent victim of that bullshit' social justice ' crap that the black agitators ( they're not leaders ) try and stir up.

Quote:



I'm not sure what's most offensive, I still recoil at the term 'blacks', but maybe that's a cultural thing here. But also lumping so many people in the one basket, cause you know I'm sure that there is no one basket for African Americans who may be poor, middle class, wealthy, powerful, disenfranchised, successful, hardworking, lazy, drug addled, athletic, moral, immoral. A bit as weird as lumping 'whites' together.




Well, I'll never use the hyphenated term for those w/ darker skin than I have. That nonsense is over a century old, and I'm sick and tired of the Left continuing to divide AMERICANS into sub groups, to pit folks against each other.

“There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all.”

“This is just as true of the man who puts “native” before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance.”

“But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as any one else.”

“The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English- Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian- Americans, or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality than with the other citizens of the American Republic.”

“The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American.”


- Teddy Roosevelt, Oct. 12, 1915.

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2010/05/teddy-roosev
elt-no-room-in-this-country.html


Would you rather I call them 'colored' ? The NAACP still stands for that.


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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 5:46 PM

WHOZIT


I'm beginning to believe he did, I've read over the years he likes to fool around, but this is just unbelievable...but I believe it.

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 5:48 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
"It is hard to believe that Bill Cosby is a serial rapist because the belief doesn't just indict Cosby, it indicts us. It damns us for drawing intimate conclusions about people based on pudding-pop commercials and popular TV shows. It destroys our ability to lean on icons for our morality. And it forces us back into a world where seemingly good men do unspeakably evil things, and this is just the chaos of human history." -- http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/11/the-cosby-sho
w/382891
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Who'd have thought Stephen Collins molested little girls, until he admitted it.

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 6:10 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I had to look up Stephen Collins. Dad from 7th Heaven. Just damn. Played a preacher, didn't he ? I never saw the show.

I have no idea if Bill Cosby did or didn't do it. Being promiscuous doesn't make one a rapist. Being famous, even to a small degree, can get people more ...um, attention from the opposite sex. Or the same sex. Which ever.

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 6:17 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I had to look up Stephen Collins. Dad from 7th Heaven. Just damn. Played a preacher, didn't he ? I never saw the show.

I have no idea if Bill Cosby did or didn't do it. Being promiscuous doesn't make one a rapist. Being famous, even to a small degree, can get people more ...um, attention from the opposite sex. Or the same sex. Which ever.



Collins also played Commander Decker in "STAR TREK: The Motion Picture", he's been a lot of films and TV shows over the years.

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 6:25 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Ah yes, Comamnder Decker. The proto type to Frakes' # 1.


But back to real life ...


Quote:

TMZ broke the story ... the NYPD was investigating at least 3 cases of alleged molestation or indecent exposure, but all 3 cases are so old authorities believe the statute of limitations have run.

But sources tell TMZ ... 2 NYPD detectives flew from New York to Seattle to interview the woman whom Collins admits on tape to molesting when she was 10.

Cops were not interested in probing the woman's story any further, but they were intensely interested in finding out if other, more recent alleged victims might have come forward.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/11/17/stephen-collins-victims-nypd-investigati
ng-child-molestation/#ixzz3JYldXfG1






So, it seems he's going through a divorce too ? But the wife's lawyers up and quit, so the trial is delayed ?

Man, not the best week ever for this guy.

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 6:29 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:

Who'd have thought Stephen Collins molested little girls, until he admitted it.


When he was asked on the set of ST:TMP what his favorite Star Trek episode was he said "What Are Little Girls Made Of?" NOW that answer makes sense. And on Tales Of The Gold Monkey, well I'm not going near that!

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:59 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Is is racist to heap all these accusations on a black guy? And a pioneer of black folks, as well.

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 11:24 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Is is racist to heap all these accusations on a black guy? And a pioneer of black folks, as well.



' Drag a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park...' is how Serpent Head James Carville described Paula Jones.

Funny, that comment never gets used by anyone about the women when the Left attack.

I wonder why.

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Thursday, November 20, 2014 8:15 AM

JONGSSTRAW



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Thursday, November 20, 2014 8:15 AM

JONGSSTRAW



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Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:51 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Whoopi Goldberg DEFENDS Bill Cosby over new rape claims as she expresses skepticism over allegations and asks: 'Why didn't accuser get a rape kit?'

Whoopi Goldberg wondered on 'The View' why Cosby accuser Barbara Bowman never went to the police

Ms Bowman told MailOnline that she didn't even tell her own mother about the assault for years

She came forward in 2005 following a lawsuit brought by another rape accuser

By MICHAEL ZENNIE FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 14:52 EST, 17 November 2014 | UPDATED: 15:04 EST, 18 November 2014


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2838255/Whoopi-Goldberg-sides-
Bill-Cosby-expresses-skepticism-sexual-assault-claims-didn-t-accuser-rape-kit.html#ixzz3JdkKGMgZ





I may have to rethink my position on the Bill Cosby matter now.


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Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:54 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Why ? And what do riots ever achieve ? Destruction of private property, usually by idiots from OUTSIDE of a community, who then leave, while those who remain are forced to pick up the pieces.

Reginald Denny. Ring a bell ? Look it up, if you need to. Completely innocent victim of that bullshit' social justice ' crap that the black agitators ( they're not leaders ) try and stir up.



methinks you miss the point of my comment.

Quote:




Well, I'll never use the hyphenated term for those w/ darker skin than I have. That nonsense is over a century old, and I'm sick and tired of the Left continuing to divide AMERICANS into sub groups, to pit folks against each other.

“There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all.”

“This is just as true of the man who puts “native” before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance.” blah blah blah blahdy blah



so you're okay with the term black American?

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Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:56 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

so you're okay with the term black American?




Just don't use the hyphen, yeah.

That was a joke, fyi.

Yeah, I guess "most" Americans would prefer to say 'African-American', which is the current in a long list of 'preferred ' names. I'd rather just say 'Americans', and leave it at that, but blacks don't care for merely being seen as American. It's as much a political and cultural as it is racial. Probably more the former two now.

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Thursday, November 20, 2014 6:28 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Whoopi Goldberg DEFENDS Bill Cosby over new rape claims as she expresses skepticism over allegations and asks: 'Why didn't accuser get a rape kit?'

Whoopi Goldberg wondered on 'The View' why Cosby accuser Barbara Bowman never went to the police

Ms Bowman told MailOnline that she didn't even tell her own mother about the assault for years

She came forward in 2005 following a lawsuit brought by another rape accuser

By MICHAEL ZENNIE FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 14:52 EST, 17 November 2014 | UPDATED: 15:04 EST, 18 November 2014


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2838255/Whoopi-Goldberg-sides-
Bill-Cosby-expresses-skepticism-sexual-assault-claims-didn-t-accuser-rape-kit.html#ixzz3JdkKGMgZ





I may have to rethink my position on the Bill Cosby matter now.


No kidding. Whoopi is never right. I must check things out as well.

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Thursday, November 20, 2014 6:38 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Whoopi Goldberg DEFENDS Bill Cosby over new rape claims as she expresses skepticism over allegations and asks: 'Why didn't accuser get a rape kit?'

Whoopi Goldberg wondered on 'The View' why Cosby accuser Barbara Bowman never went to the police

Ms Bowman told MailOnline that she didn't even tell her own mother about the assault for years

She came forward in 2005 following a lawsuit brought by another rape accuser

By MICHAEL ZENNIE FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 14:52 EST, 17 November 2014 | UPDATED: 15:04 EST, 18 November 2014


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2838255/Whoopi-Goldberg-sides-
Bill-Cosby-expresses-skepticism-sexual-assault-claims-didn-t-accuser-rape-kit.html#ixzz3JdkKGMgZ





I may have to rethink my position on the Bill Cosby matter now.




Goldberg also defended Ray Rice, she'll defend any black guy that hurts women. If Obama beat a puppy to death in the Rose Garden, Goldberg would say the puppy had it coming...and it was a Republican.

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Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:13 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Just don't use the hyphen, yeah.

That was a joke, fyi.

Yeah, I guess "most" Americans would prefer to say 'African-American', which is the current in a long list of 'preferred ' names. I'd rather just say 'Americans', and leave it at that, but blacks don't care for merely being seen as American. It's as much a political and cultural as it is racial. Probably more the former two now.




All African Americans feel that way, do they?


Here's a totally unrelated to the post topic tidbit. I once met a Kenyan woman who worked in my industry and had written a lot about the African community and our industry. Most Africans who have settled here do not originate from Kenya, but Sudan, Somalia, Ethiopia etc. I asked her how these Africans perceived her, whether there was a divide because she was Kenyan. She told me that in Africa, no one identifies as African, but from the country of origin, and within the country of origin they identify according to racial and or/tribal affiliations. But once out of Africa, they tended to identify themselves as African and embrace other Africans regardless of the divisions that exist back on the continent.

So I wonder if the same thing applies in the US. When out of America, I doubt many would identify as being African American or black American, whereas as within the US they may identify with that culture. Just a thought.

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Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:29 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I may have to rethink my position on the Bill Cosby matter now.


Yes, rethink. Even ponder for a spell. It's vital to have a carefully considered position on the important Bill Cosby matter.

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Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:37 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:

Goldberg also defended Ray Rice, she'll defend any black guy that hurts women. If Obama beat a puppy to death in the Rose Garden, Goldberg would say the puppy had it coming...and it was a Republican.


I don't care what she says on that stupid show. I loved her on Star Trek, in "Ghost", and a bunch of other movies. She earned a lifetime pass from me a long time ago. Actors and actresses should stick to acting, but if they do open their mouths and say dumb things in the real world it rarely bothers me.

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Friday, November 21, 2014 12:19 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I may have to rethink my position on the Bill Cosby matter now.


Yes, rethink. Even ponder for a spell. It's vital to have a carefully considered position on the important Bill Cosby matter.



It may impact my very life by which side I choose .

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Friday, November 21, 2014 3:49 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Really!?


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
"Glaring failure of blacks.." ????????????????????

Fuckin' ell. No wonder there are riots in Ferguson.


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Friday, November 21, 2014 3:54 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


I get the feeling, from all the reports, that he used his on-stage persona to sneakily unleash his true creepy persona. These women felt relaxed, as he approached them under the pretense of helping them, to slip them a mickey.

That is the epitome of creepy.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
I always think it's a good thing to bring people down a peg.

Am I going to ignore that he was possibly a serial rapist just because he was funny? Nope.

Am I going to pretend all of these women were loose and had it coming because they were really naïve and took pills way too readily?
Sorry, just don't buy that.

"Constand's lawyers produced 11 more women who claimed Cosby had assaulted them, bringing the total number of accusers to 13. The suit was eventually settled, and, as part of that agreement, the plaintiff agreed not to discuss her allegations publicly."

This was from an article I read this morning,(somewhere called "The Vox") and as of today we're up to 16 women. That's a whole lotta accusations, and I don't think it does anyone (besides the accused) any good to ignore them. Plus, it goes back to my argument that there are a lot more rapes and rapists in this country than people think. Some number estimate up to a million a year. Women need to know. They need to stop being so naïve and trusting and get a clue. So yeah, I'm glad this is coming out now.


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Friday, November 21, 2014 3:59 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Yep, count me among the converted. He's a creep. How many women came out?

Saw the interview with the AP reporter whom he asked not to air that portion of the interview when he was asked about his past, in front of Camille, and they both looked like a deer caught in the headlights. I could almost sense Camille's skin crawling, as she gave that fake smile. It reminded me of the Penn State football coach's wife - what's his name - Sandusky. Same look on her face.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Yep. I do.


I read that Janice Dickenson has come out with it now, certainly might explain a bit of her behaviors. Someone suggested in the comment section that maybe that's why Lisa Bonet left the show too. He certainly sounds pervy enough to make me wanna leave.

It's sad, the guy was damn funny. But since I think most people are pure crap, not really tooo surprising. And it's funny now, the whole "black people need to hold themselves to a higher standard" comment from a couple years ago. Really damn ironic. Wonder if he felt like a hypocrite saying that, at all???

Also, does anyone know when rape kits became widely used? I thought it was early 90's, but not sure. All I know is these women are getting blamed for not going to get a rape kit done in the 70's and 80's which I don't think they had those then?? I know some of the more progressive departments did even in the fifties, but I thought that was rare?


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Friday, November 21, 2014 10:56 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


SGG - how many would balk if a network reporter asked open ended questions about the sins done over a lifetime ? Maybe something done in your teens , twenties or what ever, when you're now 70 + ?

And if you the viewer already see the man as being guilty , your perception of him is prolly jaded.

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Friday, November 21, 2014 11:45 AM

SIGNYM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Also, does anyone know when rape kits became widely used? I thought it was early 90's, but not sure. All I know is these women are getting blamed for not going to get a rape kit done in the 70's and 80's which I don't think they had those then?? I know some of the more progressive departments did even in the fifties, but I thought that was rare?

And an FYI, I know for a fact that rape kits were being used by at least the mid-70s, as my sister, who was a stat lab tech for a county hospital, was processing them at the time, and they were already in common use by then.

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Friday, November 21, 2014 5:03 PM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I may have to rethink my position on the Bill Cosby matter now.


Yes, rethink. Even ponder for a spell. It's vital to have a carefully considered position on the important Bill Cosby matter.



It may impact my very life by which side I choose .



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Friday, November 21, 2014 5:11 PM

AURAPTOR

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Jongs ,it's the classic Catch 22.

If I believe Cosby, then I'm perpetuating the war on women, and promoting the 'rape culture'.

If I believe the women, then I'm a racist, and perpetuating that all black males are lookin' just to hump any female they can get their hands on.

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Friday, November 21, 2014 5:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Goldberg also defended Ray Rice, she'll defend any black guy that hurts women. If Obama beat a puppy to death in the Rose Garden, Goldberg would say the puppy had it coming...and it was a Republican.


I don't care what she says on that stupid show. I loved her on Star Trek, in "Ghost", and a bunch of other movies. She earned a lifetime pass from me a long time ago. Actors and actresses should stick to acting, but if they do open their mouths and say dumb things in the real world it rarely bothers me.


I tried to enjoy ST:TNG despite her presence. She ruined everything.

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Friday, November 21, 2014 6:28 PM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
SGG - how many would balk if a network reporter asked open ended questions about the sins done over a lifetime ? Maybe something done in your teens , twenties or what ever



Ask away. I've only had sex with one person, who I married, I've never done drugs of any kind, never been addicted to ANYTHING, or even had a serious car accident. I did punch someone in JR High though, if you really wanna know and he really had it coming. I honestly don't see how other people have such little self control in their own lives...

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Friday, November 21, 2014 6:31 PM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And an FYI, I know for a fact that rape kits were being used by at least the mid-70s, as my sister, who was a stat lab tech for a county hospital, was processing them at the time, and they were already in common use by then.




Interesting. They were processing for DNA or for blood type and hair matches? And was she in a major city?

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Friday, November 21, 2014 6:34 PM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Jongs ,it's the classic Catch 22.

If I believe Cosby, then I'm perpetuating the war on women, and promoting the 'rape culture'.

If I believe the women, then I'm a racist, and perpetuating that all black males are lookin' just to hump any female they can get their hands on.



Unfortunately, both stereotypes exist for a reason. Women CAN be mind boggleingly naive and there ARE a lot of black men who look to hump any female they can get their hands on. Why we still talkin' 'bout this?

P.S. How 'bout you take a stand, man, and not worry about who calls who what? I mean, you donna seem ta care the rest of the time, why start now?

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Friday, November 21, 2014 7:30 PM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Jongs ,it's the classic Catch 22.

If I believe Cosby, then I'm perpetuating the war on women, and promoting the 'rape culture'.

If I believe the women, then I'm a racist, and perpetuating that all black males are lookin' just to hump any female they can get their hands on.


Yeah, those Catch 22's can be a real bitch.

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Friday, November 21, 2014 7:35 PM

JONGSSTRAW


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.. and there ARE a lot of black men who look to hump any female they can get their hands on.


NEWS FLASH .... men of EVERY race, color, size, and shape are looking to hump women. Black men don't have a monopoly on being horny.

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Friday, November 21, 2014 7:37 PM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by whozit:

Goldberg also defended Ray Rice, she'll defend any black guy that hurts women. If Obama beat a puppy to death in the Rose Garden, Goldberg would say the puppy had it coming...and it was a Republican.


I don't care what she says on that stupid show. I loved her on Star Trek, in "Ghost", and a bunch of other movies. She earned a lifetime pass from me a long time ago. Actors and actresses should stick to acting, but if they do open their mouths and say dumb things in the real world it rarely bothers me.


I tried to enjoy ST:TNG despite her presence. She ruined everything.


That doesn't surprise me in the least.

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Friday, November 21, 2014 9:42 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


It seems a lot of men in the entertainment industry felt they could get away with anything, and for a lot of years did as they pleased. Now as victims feel like they may get some chance of justice, they are coming forward.

With Jimmy Saville, he held so much power they had to wait until he was dead.

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Friday, November 21, 2014 10:29 PM

WISHIMAY


They gave the old letch a standing ovation in Florida. That'll show him

Well, it's Florida. HOME of fucking crazy. And old bastards hoping if they give a reprieve to him maybe they get a pass...


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Friday, November 21, 2014 10:31 PM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

NEWS FLASH .... men of EVERY race, color, size, and shape are looking to hump women. Black men don't have a monopoly on being horny.


Thanks, Cap'n Obvious

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Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:00 PM

WISHIMAY


We're up another one!

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Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
We're up another one!



yeah, the 'me too!'s are coming out.

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Sunday, November 23, 2014 4:30 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


You mean Bill Cosby, the black who made money pandering to racists by scolding other blacks on how awful they were? You mean blacks too can be hypocrites if there's money to be made?

Say it isn't so!




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, November 23, 2014 4:49 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
You mean Bill Cosby, the black who made money pandering to racists by scolding other blacks on how awful they were? You mean blacks too can be hypocrites if there's money to be made?

Say it isn't so!




Where did he ever 'pander to racists' ?

Show us where he scolded blacks on how awful they were ?

All Cosby has ever done is tell the truth. As much as it pains me, Jesse Jackson and
Louis Farrakhan have chided the black community for very much the same things as Cosby. Why ? Because they know of what they speak on this matter. Self pity and apathy are like a cancer, a sickness that is keeping the black community from being what it could be.

Think Jesse and Louis are 'pandering to racists' ? Well, perhaps, but not those of the lighter skin color. The message of making better choices for a better future, taking control of your own life isn't telling folks how awful they are, but how much more they can be !

Sad that your little world view can't comprehend such a vision.

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