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Wednesday, September 24, 2014 2:37 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



It's not real - RapFact™




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Wednesday, September 24, 2014 6:33 AM

AURAPTOR

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It's not real - RapFact™





And you think this is how an adult is suppose to respond?

Huh.

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Wednesday, September 24, 2014 6:01 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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It's not real - RapFact™





And you think this is how an adult is suppose to respond?

Huh.


Are you still TROLLing in YOUR OWN THREAD?

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Wednesday, September 24, 2014 6:10 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Everyone knows that CANADIAN meteorological science guys are deep in the pockets of BIG OIL !!



Do you think she will object that BIG SOLAR is given such short shrift in your diatribe? Like that big orange blob in the sky?
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EVERY scientist who denies the TRUTH of global warming does so at the behest of BIG OIL!! It's a well documented FACT!

Climate denial can't provide a coherent explanation for the full body of evidence describing what's happening to our climate. They lurch from denying that global warming is happening to blaming the (nonexistent) global warming on some natural cause to claiming that (nonexistent, non-human-caused) global warming doesn't matter because, well, chillax dude!

In contrast, climate scientists present many lines of evidence pointing to a single, coherent conclusion: that global warming is happening, that humans are causing it, and that climate impacts are being felt everywhere.


Guess not - didn't even warrant a mention is the causes of the solar-system-wide warming of globes, so that must mean farting cows are causing the heating up of planets in the far reaches of our solar system, even on the opposite side of our Sun from us, and all in unison with our global warming.


In the spirit of transparency, I should admit that I have an assumption that AURaptor has a bit more understanding of the concept of these little planets in the solar system having their heat supply and regulation governed from a distance of 1 Au. Because, of course, his handle, or login name includes "Au" which must remind him every day how far away the SUN is from us. I could be wrong about this, but I have not seen anybody else here who uses a login name referencing our planet's heat source, let alone the distance between them.

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Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:52 PM

STORYMARK


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Hmmm ... you both seem to be suffering from 'backyard' syndrome. Not quite sure what part of
GLOBAL

you don't get, but your brains seem completely deficient in ability to formulate the concept.



Nice of him to illustrate your point so efficiently.



“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”? Isaac Asimov

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Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:53 PM

STORYMARK


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It's not real - RapFact™





And you think this is how an adult is suppose to respond?

Huh.



When dealing with a petulant child, yes.



“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”? Isaac Asimov

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Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:51 PM

AURAPTOR

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Adults don't sink to the level of children , so I'll refrain from following in storybook's tiny footsteps.

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Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:13 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


It's not real - RapFact™




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Wednesday, October 1, 2014 6:40 PM

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That's nice, but what of the actual story posted, and the satellite image showing more ice, not less ?


News today: Franklin Expedition ship found because of what? Guess? Wait for it....
They could not search for the lost ship in the location they were scheduled to because there was TOO MUCH ICE. The scientists clearly stated that the MYTH of lessening ice would have allowed them to search in their scheduled location, but instead they had to shift south and FOUND IT!
Canadian meteorological scientists stating the lessening of ice is a MYTH - but who can believe them, they don't have a libtard bias to their facts, nor a political oar in the water.


Update today: This shipwreck has been identified as HMS Erebus, which was Franklin's flagship and likely where he perished.

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Thursday, March 19, 2015 7:45 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Thursday, March 19, 2015 9:51 PM

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Fun site.

http://www.fauxscienceslayer.com/

A site with more facts and fewer opinions than Faux Science Slayer is this one:
www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2939

The title of the article is
"Earth Has Its 2nd Warmest February and Warmest Northern Hemisphere Winter"

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, March 19, 2015 11:33 PM

AURAPTOR

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It's not real - RapFact™




You really should be deported to Troll Country.

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Thursday, March 19, 2015 11:47 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


It's not real - RapFact™




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Thursday, March 19, 2015 11:55 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
It's not real - RapFact™




You really should be deported to Troll Country.

You're a little slow responding to 1kiki's comment from SIX MONTHS BACK! Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:13 PM

In more recent news, there are colorful maps showing the Earth heating up at www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2015/2 NOAA National Climatic Data Center, State of the Climate: Global Analysis for February 2015, published online March 2015.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, March 20, 2015 10:56 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


All of the observations say "It's melting, not growing". Once again, rappy is arguing that that sun comes up in the west and that the earth is flat.

Iceland Ice Shield .... in existence for over TEN TIMES the existence of homo sapiens ... is melting so quickly that the earth's crust underneath is rebounding at the fastest rate in the world
http://www.livescience.com/49751-iceland-rising-melting-ice.html


Arctic ice.... it's melting, not growing
Arctic sea ice reaches lowest maximum extent on record
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
Arctic sea ice extent hits record low for winter (update)
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-31976749


The LAND ICE in Antarctica is shrinking, not increasing, and the SEA ICE while covering more ocean, is thinner than before and is also, on the average, shrinking and not growing
http://www.wunderground.com/climate/facts/antarctica_is_losing_ice_she
et.asp

Latest news ...
How the Most Important Glacier in East Antarctica Is Melting
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/03/the-new-west-
antarctica-yep-its-east-antarctica/388018
/

GLACIERS - from the Alps to the Andes, from the Himalayas to the Cascades - are also melting
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/impacts/early
-warning-signs-of-global-5.html#.VQw4Q3R5YxM


Rappy has his head stuck up his ass, which is usual for him for this topic.



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Friday, March 20, 2015 5:38 PM

AURAPTOR

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You're a little slow responding to 1kiki's comment from SIX MONTHS BACK! Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:13 PM



Were it not for you and JSF, I'd have never seen it. Thanks for the Walking Thread revival.

And Sig, funny how you remain blind to the FACT that it isn't ME who makes these claims, but the actual facts, as linked, which speak for themselves.

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Friday, March 20, 2015 5:42 PM

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Friday, March 20, 2015 6:20 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Now here's where we get into your "facts" again .... which btw I already addressed in my post.

Do you know the difference between square miles and cubic miles? Because whether you get that concept will make a difference as to whether you understand what I'm about to write:

Let's say you have a creek, and it's frozen solid: ice from surface to creekbed. Then, it starts to thaw, and water starts trickling under the ice. Pretty soon, water is flowing freely under the surface. Just because you still have a layer of ice on top of running water, would you say that the creek has NOT melted???

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Wednesday, March 25, 2015 8:03 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


3 interesting books from a climatologist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Spencer_%28scientist%29#Books


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Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:37 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Spencer is a signatory to An Evangelical Declaration on Global Warming,[30][31] which states that "Earth and its ecosystems – created by God's intelligent design

... because who DOESN'T need religious beliefs about unprovable stuff in their pursuit of testable scientific research?




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:36 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Arctic sea ice reaches lowest maximum extent on record.

On February 25, 2015, Arctic sea ice extent appeared to have reached its annual maximum extent, marking the beginning of the sea ice melt season. This year’s maximum extent not only occurred early; it is also the lowest in the satellite record.
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2015/03/2015-maximum-lowest-on-recor
d
/


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, March 27, 2015 12:56 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


In RapLanguage 'lowest maximum extent' must mean GROWING.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Friday, March 27, 2015 1:08 AM

AURAPTOR

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Not my launguage, check the facts as op

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Friday, March 27, 2015 1:11 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


'lowest maximum extent' = fact, op

The only way it could be 'growing' at the same time it has its 'lowest maximum extent' is if you're using a made-up language where, magically, less ice = more ice.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Friday, March 27, 2015 1:14 AM

AURAPTOR

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Ice thicker & covering 1.7 millon km more than 2 years ago.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2738653/Stunning-satell
ite-images-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-prediction-ICE-FREE-now.html


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, March 27, 2015 1:17 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So, comparing it to '2 years ago' is more meaningful than 'on record'?

As in, last year 'there was more ice than 2 years ago' is more important than the fact that now the ice is at the lowest maximum EVER recorded?

PLEASE - keep on with your idiocy. Don't let me, the facts, normal English, logic or sanity stop you. Your posts make a fine collection.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Friday, March 27, 2015 1:28 AM

AURAPTOR

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Lol @ the facts keepin you up at night.

* grin *

And you think I'm the daily mail now too ???

Roflmao !!!!!!

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Friday, March 27, 2015 1:40 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Are you drunk or crazy? You're not even minimally coherent. I truly hope you're crazy. I think that would be awesome.


Preserved -


Friday, March 27, 2015 1:28 AM

AURAPTOR

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Lol @ the facts keepin you up at night.

* grin *

And you think I'm the daily mail now too ???

Roflmao !!!!!!





SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Friday, March 27, 2015 8:57 AM

AURAPTOR

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So, 7 months ago, The Daily Mail publishes a story where it relays facts pertaining to the thickness of the ice and its extant.

I post that story here, and some how, 7 months later, you're under the impression that I'M the one who grabbed these facts out of the ether, and published the story, for The Daily Mail, and because of that , you seem to think I'm either drunk or crazy ?

Seriously 1kiki, seek professional help.


Myth of Arctic meltdown: Stunning satellite images show summer ice cap is thicker and covers 1.7million square kilometres MORE than 2 years ago...despite Al Gore's prediction it would be ICE-FREE by now

Seven years after former US Vice-President Al Gore's warning, Arctic ice cap has expanded for second year in row

An area twice the size of Alaska - America's biggest state - was open water two years ago and is now covered in ice

These satellite images taken from University of Illinois's Cryosphere project show ice has become more concentrated

By DAVID ROSE FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2738653/Stunning-satell
ite-images-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-prediction-ICE-FREE-now.html#ixzz3VaePrntU

Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


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Friday, March 27, 2015 9:39 AM

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So, 7 months ago, The Daily Mail publishes a story where it relays facts pertaining to the thickness of the ice and its extant.

You are quoting the Daily Mail, which has a terrible reputation. The Daily Mail (aka, Hate Mail, Daily Fail, Daily Heil, Daily Moan and so on), is a reactionary tabloid rag masquerading as a "traditional values," middle-class newspaper that is, in many ways, the worst of the British gutter press (only Rupert Murdoch's Sun is worse). It prints whatever will sell to its target audience. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690828/The-Maldives-disappear-News-C
orporation-boss-Rupert-Murdoch-says-climate-change-real-cares-sea-level-rises-wipe-Maldives.html

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Friday, March 27, 2015 9:53 AM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
So, 7 months ago, The Daily Mail publishes a story where it relays facts pertaining to the thickness of the ice and its extant.

You are quoting the Daily Mail, which has a terrible reputation. The Daily Mail (aka, Hate Mail, Daily Fail, Daily Heil, Daily Moan and so on), is a reactionary tabloid rag masquerading as a "traditional values," middle-class newspaper that is, in many ways, the worst of the British gutter press (only Rupert Murdoch's Sun is worse). It prints whatever will sell to its target audience. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690828/The-Maldives-disappear-News-C
orporation-boss-Rupert-Murdoch-says-climate-change-real-cares-sea-level-rises-wipe-Maldives.html



Kill the messenger if you don't like the message ?

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Friday, March 27, 2015 11:24 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


WAIT! Didn't we have this conversation before?

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Well, that is rappy- thinking his backyard... or a single event ... represents an entire history. I think he understands the word "decline", what he can't quite wrap his brain around is "long term" or "worldwide". It's too big. -SIGNY

And Sig - you think that the ice build up was a 'single event' ? Really? Pretty sure that's not how it works w/ arctic ice. Takes what ? Time.- RAPPY

Yep... it shrinks in summer, and grows in winter. But OVER TIME.... decades, not a couple of months or a couple of years... Arctic ice has shrunk. That's what they mean by LONG TERM... something beyond a day, or a month, [or a year], even a decade.-SIGNY

Well, here you are claiming that more ice isn't a 'single event' but a TREND, over TIME. This is in your words. Something you affirm from your own - what passes for a mind. Something you can't hide behind as a quote. This is YOUR claim. Which is wrong. Yet again.-KIKI

Nope. I'm not wrong, you are. There IS more ice now than there was 2 years ago. FACT. I didn't make up the story, out of thin air, the story exists because of the very fact that there is MORE , not less ice in the arctic.
- RAPPY, doing his usual I'm right and you're wrong when the real facts clearly contradict his factoid

This place tracks arctic ice: http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
Today's picture looks like this:



Oh PSHAW!
Your decades worth of ice decline are nothing - NOTHING! - compared to little rappy's two-year time period he's designated a 'trend'! And he said so! So it's true!- KIKI



And here is RAPPY's CLASSIC HOWLER, where he dismisses HIS OWN EVIDENCE. RAPPY SAID:
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Decades really aren't all that significant in geologic or planetary time.
So, if "decades aren't all that significant", a single year is even less significant in the grand scheme of things, correct?

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1000's or even 10,000's of years only begin to make sense then.But the anthropomorphic bias that we view things, oh yeah, a few decades is a long, long, long, long time.


So, Rappy, your one-year trend, which you claim is not single "event" but a meaningful length of time ... apparently is meaningless compared to 1000s of years. Certainly less meaningful than dozens of years of observation.

So, why are you crowing about sea ice increasing one year? As far as I can tell, you've just told us that a one-year point is ... lost in the noise of geologic history.

Yanno what? When sea is volume increases to the point where it is OVER the historic norm for a few years in a row, get back in touch with us. But given that THIS year (2015)
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On February 25, 2015 Arctic sea ice likely reached its maximum extent for the year, at 14.54 million square kilometers (5.61 million square miles). This year’s maximum ice extent was the lowest in the satellite record, with below-average ice conditions everywhere except in the Labrador Sea and Davis Strait. The maximum extent is 1.10 million square kilometers

Arctic ice area


Arctic ice volume (area X depth)

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
my guess is you'll have a snowball's chance in hell of ever making that post.


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Friday, March 27, 2015 1:38 PM

AURAPTOR

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All that, & still not a worth while point made.

Wow.

No open water by 2014, as Gore warned .

Not.

Even .

Close.

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Friday, March 27, 2015 2:44 PM

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Kill the messenger if you don't like the message ?

Kill the messenger if the messenger is as untrustworthy as Rupert Murdoch and the Daily Mail. AURaptor, you are fooling yourself to trust "facts" from Daily Mail, which has a poor record of truthfulness. www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2014/jan/31/jkrowling-dailymail

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, March 27, 2015 2:51 PM

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Friday, March 27, 2015 11:38 PM

AURAPTOR

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Harry freakin Potter has zero to do w/ the FACT that the ice was thicker and bigger.

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However, Dr Hawkins added that the decline seen in recent years was not caused only by global warming. It was, he said, intensified by ‘natural variability’ – shifts in factors such as the temperature of the oceans. This, he said, has happened before, such as in the 1920s and 1930s, when ‘there was likely some sea ice retreat’.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2738653/Stunning-satell
ite-images-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-prediction-ICE-FREE-now.html#ixzz3VeFi6zc8





Show me where the good doctor didn't say that, and you'll have my attention. If not, go suck on an ice cube.


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Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:24 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Rappy rappy rappy - tsk tsk.

The daily mail ran a story about 2014, and compared it to 2006. Meanwhile - guess what - time moved on. The new story is about 2015, compared to 'ever' on record.

I know your mind is particularly slow. I know you have problem understanding the difference between a month vs a year, and a local area vs the globe. So I can see you might have to think very very hard about the difference between 2014 and 2015. But I know in my heart if you try you can do it.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:05 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

However, Dr Hawkins added that the decline seen in recent years was not caused only by global warming. It was, he said, intensified by ‘natural variability’ – shifts in factors such as the temperature of the oceans. This, he said, has happened before, such as in the 1920s and 1930s, when ‘there was likely some sea ice retreat’.

Show me where the good doctor didn't say that, and you'll have my attention. If not, go suck on an ice cube.



So, weather is variable??
Say it isn't so!
And that's why people LIKE RAPPY shouldn't take ONE YEAR, or THEIR BACK YARD, and project it over the entire globe- or the next ten years!
Right, rappy?

In the meantime, the LONG TERM trends say it's melting, not growing.

Disprove that!

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Saturday, March 28, 2015 5:26 PM

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Naw, these guys wait for word from on up high...........in other words they await word from their lord and master, yup, Rush. Besides they don't know what a dictionary is, much less what the word means.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
from your article:

"... the long-term trend still shows a decline ..."

You DO know what the word 'decline' means, right?






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Saturday, March 28, 2015 5:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, comparing it to '2 years ago' is more meaningful than 'on record'?

As in, last year 'there was more ice than 2 years ago' is more important than the fact that now the ice is at the lowest maximum EVER recorded?

PLEASE - keep on with your idiocy. Don't let me, the facts, normal English, logic or sanity stop you. Your posts make a fine collection.


Is your mental stability faltering?

Note statement of lowest on record.

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Arctic sea ice reaches lowest maximum extent on record.

On February 25, 2015, Arctic sea ice extent appeared to have reached its annual maximum extent, marking the beginning of the sea ice melt season. This year’s maximum extent not only occurred early; it is also the lowest in the satellite record.
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2015/03/2015-maximum-lowest-on-recor
d
/



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RapKnight was pointing out that 2 years ago should be included in all-time history. Thus the "on record" is proven false. Unless you don't accept the original premise.

Either "lowest on record" includes 2 years ago, which is proven false by 2 years ago being lower; or "lowest on record" means except 2 years ago, defying the definition of the words.

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Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:33 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


They're just pissed that their TRUE lord and master, AlGore, was humiliated, yet once again, as he utterly and completely missed with his preDICKtion that the Arctic would be ice free by now.


Swing --> miss !


Maybe Al should go grab some more masseur ass.

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Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


TWO years ago? That would be 2013 - a year no one is discussing. What ARE you talking about?




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, March 29, 2015 3:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
TWO years ago? That would be 2013 - a year no one is discussing. What ARE you talking about?


So you are trying to redefine ALL-TIME HISTORY or LOWEST ON RECORD as really meaning "except for 2 years ago - nobody would ever discuss that" now? Or are you just pathetically parsing?

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Monday, March 30, 2015 12:55 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


JSF, I have no idea what you're trying to say.

RAPPY'S point was that in 2014 there was "more ice" than in 2012. A lot more. So what? Thru most of 2012, the ice was the lowest it's ever been. Whatever rebound was experienced in 2013 and 2014 only brought the ice level up to the lower edge of the gray band .... in other words, still lower than average, as opposed to historically low. 2015 is BEGINNING to look like it may be even lower than 2012, and all of that blather about the robust resurgence of the sea ice may turn out to be just that- blather.

Here is an good interactive tool, if you want to see the ice extent for any/each year compared to other years.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/

Now, what IS important is that ice is melting which hasn't melted in 400,000 years. So if you want to look for markers of geologic significance, that's one.



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Wednesday, May 13, 2015 11:25 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Antarctic ice is melting faster than ever seen.

Quote:

Antarctica is melting, not growing. In fact the ice mass is dropping at an accelerating rate due to multiple factors including accelerated glacial ice calving rates. The loss of sea based ice allows the Antarctic ice to move faster towards the ocean resulting in an increased rate of loss of the Antarctic ice.

http://ossfoundation.us/projects/environment/global-warming/antarctic-
ice-melt


All you have to do is go to google, or the websearch of your choice, and type in antarctic ice. After that, all you need to do is read with a modicum logic. Both are apparently beyond you, since you prefer fantasy to reality.

There is ONE thing that's growing and not shrinking, and that's the stupidity on this board.

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Thursday, May 14, 2015 6:21 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Antarctic ice is melting faster than ever seen.


Yeah. Sure.
All those people actually on Antarctica really have no idea what they are talking about when they point out there is more ice than ever recorded before.

I suppose we should all just believe some Libtard sitting in his chair complaining that his air conditioning is not working, and that means the globe is warming.

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Thursday, May 14, 2015 8:09 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Antarctic ice is melting faster than ever seen.


Yeah. Sure.
All those people actually on Antarctica really have no idea what they are talking about when they point out there is more ice than ever recorded before.

I suppose we should all just believe some Libtard sitting in his chair complaining that his air conditioning is not working, and that means the globe is warming.



Summer is ending down there, as it's starting to heat up in the N. Hemisphere. Temps generally are the warmest at the end of summer, as air / water have had the longest exposure to sunlight. The reports take time to come in, as data are collected. More ice means there's more to melt. Duh.

This entire AGW crap is much ado about nothing.

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Friday, May 15, 2015 12:29 AM

THGRRI


Scientists: Earth Endangered by New Strain of Fact-Resistant Humans

By Andy Borowitz


“These humans appear to have all the faculties necessary to receive and process information,” Davis Logsdon, one of the scientists who contributed to the study, said. “And yet, somehow, they have developed defenses that, for all intents and purposes, have rendered those faculties totally inactive.”

I refer to them as morons.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/scientists-earth-endang
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