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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:16 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Dutch Expert: Ukraine Teams Did 'Hell of a Job' Moving Bodies

http://www.nbcnews.com/#/storyline/ukraine-plane-crash/dutch-expert-uk
raine-teams-did-hell-job-moving-bodies-n161081


HRABOVE, Ukraine - The head of a Dutch team sent to identify the victims of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 praised the Ukrainian recovery workers who collected hundreds of bodies from fields in a war zone for doing a "hell of a job." Peter van Vliet, leader of a three-man team of Dutch body identification experts - the first international investigators to visit the crash area - said his priority would be getting hundreds of bodies now stored in refrigerated rail cars to a location where they can be identified and sent home.

Despite reports that some of the bodies may have been looted during days lying out in summer sun, van Vliet expressed admiration for the recovery crews. "I'm very impressed about the work that was done over here," he said. Citing the heat and the scale of the site, he said: "I think they did a hell of a job in a hell of a place." Asked how he felt as a Dutchman at a site where so many of his countrymen were killed, he said he had goosebumps despite the heat. Passengers from the Netherlands accounted for two-thirds of the 298 victims of Thursday's disaster.

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:49 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So, I was curious.

Who of you read that the separatist forces were moving the bodies into refrigerated rail cars?
Who of you read it but went by it because it didn't fit your pre-existing ideas?





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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:51 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Gassy bitch!



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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Scanning the news today, there are many reports that the bodies were shipped by refrigerated rail. I wonder who put the bodies in the cars? None of the stories I looked at said anything about it.




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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:52 PM

GEEZER

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Scanning the news today, there are many reports that the bodies were shipped by refrigerated rail. I wonder who put the bodies in the cars? None of the stories I looked at said anything about it.



You could search on 'separatists move bodies to rail cars' like I just did and find several stories about it.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:00 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"You could search on 'separatists move bodies to rail cars' like I just did and find several stories about it."


Not from today. And the only source from that search that didn't accuse the separatists of doing heinous things with the bodies was al Jazeera. Not a source you or your ilk would credit, let me add.

So, please try to read what I posted. I posted about the news TODAY. The return of bodies from separatist territory is heralded as a type of victory over those animals. Stories of them doing 'bad' things to the bodies for 'horrible' reasons were widely disseminated just two days ago. We were supposed to understand that they're uncivilized disrespecters of even common human decency. And the arc of the story is that the bodies were returned despite them.

The fact that the bodies were being responsibly moved to refrigerated rails cars to preserve them and facilitate their return didn't make mainstream news.

If the media were interested in giving us ALL the facts and an impartial story we'd get a little background as to how exactly the return by refrigerated rail was accomplished. We'd be told that the it was due to the past work of separatists.

Instead we have a carefully trimmed and crafted set of stimuli - yea return! f/u separatists! - omitting vital information, to get a carefully trimmed crafted set of responses.



https://www.google.com/#q=separatists+move+bodies+to+rail+cars&tbm
=nws


Pro-Russian separatists move MH17 victims to cooled train cars
Al Jazeera America-Jul 20, 2014
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KPRC Houston-Jul 20, 2014
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Opinion-U.S. News & World Report-Jul 20, 2014
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In-Depth-Washington Post-Jul 20, 2014
Train With Bodies From Malaysia Airlines Crash Leaves Rebel Town ...

Opinion-Huffington Post-Jul 21, 2014
'What exactly are they trying to hide?': Obama demands wider ...
In-Depth-National Post-Jul 21, 2014




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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:17 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Scanning the news today, there are many reports that the bodies were shipped by refrigerated rail. I wonder who put the bodies in the cars? None of the stories I looked at said anything about it.



You could search on 'separatists move bodies to rail cars' like I just did and find several stories about it.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."



Right now as far as I know the bodies are still in territory held by the rebels. Let's see what happens and what is said after they no longer need the cooperation of the rebels with bodies and at the crash site.

1kiki is just trying to get someone to say the rebels put the bodies in the cars so she can post again how well they were treated. Yea Right....


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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"1kiki is just trying to get someone to say the rebels put the bodies in the cars so she can post again how well they were treated."



Dutch Expert: Ukraine Teams Did 'Hell of a Job' Moving Bodies

reported by NBC News

http://www.nbcnews.com/#/storyline/ukraine-plane-crash/dutch-expert-uk
raine-teams-did-hell-job-moving-bodies-n161081


HRABOVE, Ukraine - The head of a Dutch team sent to identify the victims of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 praised the Ukrainian recovery workers who collected hundreds of bodies from fields in a war zone for doing a "hell of a job." Peter van Vliet, leader of a three-man team of Dutch body identification experts - the first international investigators to visit the crash area - said his priority would be getting hundreds of bodies now stored in refrigerated rail cars to a location where they can be identified and sent home.

Despite reports that some of the bodies may have been looted during days lying out in summer sun, van Vliet expressed admiration for the recovery crews. "I'm very impressed about the work that was done over here," he said. Citing the heat and the scale of the site, he said: "I think they did a hell of a job in a hell of a place." Asked how he felt as a Dutchman at a site where so many of his countrymen were killed, he said he had goosebumps despite the heat. Passengers from the Netherlands accounted for two-thirds of the 298 victims of Thursday's disaster.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:24 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. SECOND: I am so very sorry I libelled you by labelling you a Russian Troll. I apologize for this. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64646&p=2


KIKI didn't need to say it, a Dutch investigator did.

What the anti-Russians here on the board don't realize is what they're saying:

1) The separatists were at fault for moving the bodies because it ruined the investigation. They should have waited for the investigators (who, BTW, were stuck in Kiev)

2) The separatists were at fault for NOT moving the bodies, because it showed disrespect.

Yanno, nothing they could have done or not done would have been good, according to most of you here. All you know is that those are "bad people" and must be blamed for anything and everything, even if you're being completely nonsensical in with your complaints.

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:32 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
KIKI didn't need to say it, a Dutch investigator did.

What the anti-Russians here on the board don't realize is what they're saying:

1) The separatists were at fault for moving the bodies because it ruined the investigation. They should have waited for the investigators (who, BTW, were stuck in Kiev)

2) The separatists were at fault for NOT moving the bodies, because it showed disrespect.

Yanno, nothing they could have done or not done would have been good, according to most of you here. All you know is that those are "bad people" and must be blamed for anything and everything, even if you're being completely nonsensical in with your complaints.



They weren't' stuck you ass they were being kept away with guns. Your sick and diluted and your husband really needs to get you some help. Are there any doctors where you come from?


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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:37 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Your sick and diluted and your husband really needs to get you some help. Are there any doctors where you come from?


The Rap attack.
Pretty much settles it.

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:48 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. SECOND: I am so very sorry I libelled you by labelling you a Russian Troll. I apologize for this. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64646&p=2


Nah, not rap. M52, misspellings, childish faith in the military, and all.

THUGR, you really don't want me to bitch-slap you with reality again, do you? Before you start foaming at the mouth, why don't you do a google search? Investigation+international+team+arrive+kiev, or some such? Track their actual progress as to where they were and when. Yanno get some facts under your belt BEFORE you post. Would that be too much to expect?

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Wednesday, July 23, 2014 8:29 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Your sick and diluted and your husband really needs to get you some help. Are there any doctors where you come from?


The Rap attack.
Pretty much settles it.



It reminds you of the way you post does it? I noticed you go to an angry post about every other time. Climb down off your horse precious.


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Wednesday, July 23, 2014 8:38 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What the anti-Russians here on the board don't realize is what they're saying:



Who are these anti-Russians? You, and especially Kiki, assume that if we believe Russia has some involvement with a mistaken shooting down of the airliner, that we therefore believe and support every single anti-Russian slanted article written. It really doesn't work like that...


Hear hear! It has become sig's way to assume that everyone but her and her clone form all opinions based on biases. Yet they dismiss everything that doesn't fit their view based on... what?

I'm still seeing absolutely nothing posted by sig or kiki that supports their early suggestions that Ukraine did this intentionally to win international support. Yet they continue to cling to the idea that everything coming out of Ukraine is a lie.

Why? Well, because the West = evil empire.


Quote:

There's no motivation for Putin to want such a thing, unless he gave the all clear to shoot down any presumed Ukrainian aircraft and this mistake followed. Will anti-Russian nations try and leverage any connection they might have had? Of course!
Indeed. I haven't seen anyone suggest that Putin did this directly, and I never thought so. I also never thought the separatists did this on purpose. I think (I hope!) they are horrified by what they've done. They didn't sign up to massacre civilians.

Of course they'd want to get the bodies out of the heat, and that is a horrible job. I'm not surprised they were praised for it, even if one of them is the guy who fired the missile.

Yes, I'm taking it as a given that they did it. I will change my mind if different evidence surfaces, but as of now it's pretty clear to me. And not because I hate Russia. The only reason sig sees it that way is because that's how she rolls - she hates the West so everything must be fault of the West.



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Wednesday, July 23, 2014 8:39 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Your sick and diluted and your husband really needs to get you some help. Are there any doctors where you come from?


The Rap attack.
Pretty much settles it.



It reminds you of the way you post does it? I noticed you go to an angry post about every other time. Climb down off your horse precious.




Yet again - sig/THG is the new sig/Rappy. You really get off on this, don't you?


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Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:04 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Your sick and diluted and your husband really needs to get you some help. Are there any doctors where you come from?


The Rap attack.
Pretty much settles it.



It reminds you of the way you post does it? I noticed you go to an angry post about every other time. Climb down off your horse precious.




Chris has always been SignyM's white knight.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:23 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. SECOND: I am so very sorry I libelled you by labelling you a Russian Troll. I apologize for this. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64646&p=2


Quote:

I'm still seeing absolutely nothing posted by sig or kiki that supports their early suggestions that Ukraine did this intentionally to win international support. Yet they contiue to cling to the idea that everything coming out of Ukraine is a lie.
And, you are strawmanning once again.

I put Ukraine on the list of credible suspects because of means, opportunity, and -especially- motive. I suspect them of lying because they've demonstrably lied in the past. I brought a link to the Kyiv Post to demonstrate one of those lies, and it was a doozy!

In a milieu when everyone was convinced that they knew Russia did it, I didn't claim that Kiev did, merely that they could have. All I was urging was to wait for information to come out, and to parse it with an open mind... and that means, open to -among other things- the possibility there may be lies or at least half-truths embedded in it, as well as truths. I think I've said this, or something like it, a dozen times by now.

Please see the "walk back thread" for an example of how I judge an entities credibility versus its interests. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58369

I've tried to be as clear and possible, and it frustrates me when you keep putting words in my mouth and reacting to what you THINK I'm saying instead of what I'm actually saying.

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Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:48 PM

THGRRI


And it starts. Until the Dutch gained control of the bodies they had to keep their mouths shut. Well, now they don't. The Dutch people are the ones to make the determination on how the bodies were treated. Not someone who needs to be polite so he can get the bodies released. You do not have to go to the prediction thread to see if I called it. Just scroll up.

Dutch anger swells at treatment of Ukraine bodies

Here's a link Sig and 1kiki so you don't have to work to hard.

http://news.yahoo.com/dutch-anger-swells-treatment-ukraine-bodies-0901
52019.html



THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — A distraught, grieving mother summed up a swelling mood of despair and anguish in the Netherlands on Sunday at faltering efforts to repatriate the bodies of loved ones killed in the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, appealing directly to Russian President Vladimir Putin to return the bodies of her son and his girlfriend.

Silene Fredriksz-Hoogzand, whose son Bryce and his girlfriend, Daisy Oehlers, were killed when the plane was shot down Thursday over Ukraine, said she was appalled their bodies and those of other victims had been left lying for days

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/distraught-dutch-mother-send-children-home-1
85206985.html?.tsrc=yahoo


Come on Sig and 1kiki, tell us all how the Dutch people are wrong and that their loved ones got the best possible treatment. And I am sure they will all get letters shortly telling them their loved ones credit cards and wallets are soon to follow.

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Monday, April 10, 2017 7:41 PM

DREAMTROVE


Our most pointless argument. This was identified as hopeless at the time. Both sides were using the same Ukrainian military issue Soviet made rockets in the same location, lobbing against each other, one of them hit the Malaysian plane. Neither side has a clue who.

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Monday, April 10, 2017 8:13 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I'm still waiting for a final report. The one that assigns blame. It seems overdue.

Oh, this is why it went under the radar, it wasn't carried by the msm.

http://www.whathappenedtoflightmh17.com/jit-there-will-be-no-public-re
lease-of-a-final-report-on-mh17
/
Posted on May 30, 2016
“there will be no public release of a final report on MH17“

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%E2%80%9Cthere+will+be+no+public+
release+of+a+final+report+on+MH17+%E2%80%9C&tbm=nws

no msm news on google search

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/dutch-ministry-weighs-optio
ns-for-mh17-prosecution-430692
/
25 October, 2016
Dutch ministry weighs options for MH17 prosecution
The assessment follows last year’s failure to secure United Nations approval for an international criminal tribunal after a veto by Russia’s representative on the UN Security Council.



I wonder if we'll hear anything from the ICC. The Dutch investigation is over. It's been 6 months since the Dutch announced they're looking into an alternate court. I wonder if the ICC is feeling at all unjust after clearing Milosevic years after he died in their jail.




Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Monday, April 10, 2017 8:16 PM

DREAMTROVE


G,

John McCain, John Kerry and John Brennan referred to in this case by Jon Stewart as "Obama's Drones" arranged with teh National Socialist Party of the Ukraine (institution openly responsible for 1/4 of the holocaust) to overthrow the democratically elected govt of Ukraine to openly surrender to Germany in the form of the EU. I'm running 0% conspiracy theory here.

Then they teamed with neonazi groups to form Pravyi Sektor. After giving a Nazi salute to Nazis in from of posters of four Nazi war criminals, McCain asked the Nazis to change their name to teh "Freedom Party" and then John Brennan ordered them to bomb the Russians. All of this was reported everywhere.

Okay, How did Putin's puppet Yanukovich get in? Simple. The US and EU foolishly backed different pro-west candidates, splitting the vote, so 30/30/40, with 405 of the population being ethnic Russians.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Monday, April 10, 2017 8:27 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Oh yeah, *that guy* was being pissy ...
*That guy* being Putin. Jeeze - get a room.
Quote:

... that Ukraine kicked out his over coiffed puppet.
You mean an armed coup against a democratically elected president fomented and aided by the US.




Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Monday, April 10, 2017 8:40 PM

THGRRI


Sure you're not 1kiki. That's one of her signatures you're displaying. And you forgot to go green. It's hard being both at the same time isn't it?

Oh, here's another grammatical error dreamtrove/1kiki "Nazis in from of posters of four Nazi" It's like every post with you. Like I said before. I don't do this because it's petty. Then you couldn't help yourself when I misspelled a word, a word. Say uncle and I'll stop.




Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
G,

John McCain, John Kerry and John Brennan referred to in this case by Jon Stewart as "Obama's Drones" arranged with teh National Socialist Party of the Ukraine (institution openly responsible for 1/4 of the holocaust) to overthrow the democratically elected govt of Ukraine to openly surrender to Germany in the form of the EU. I'm running 0% conspiracy theory here.

Then they teamed with neonazi groups to form Pravyi Sektor. After giving a Nazi salute to Nazis in from of posters of four Nazi war criminals, McCain asked the Nazis to change their name to teh "Freedom Party" and then John Brennan ordered them to bomb the Russians. All of this was reported everywhere.

Okay, How did Putin's puppet Yanukovich get in? Simple. The US and EU foolishly backed different pro-west candidates, splitting the vote, so 30/30/40, with 405 of the population being ethnic Russians.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.






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Monday, April 10, 2017 8:50 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


It pleases me no end that you're so deluded.




Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Monday, April 10, 2017 9:09 PM

SOCKPUPPET


M52NICKERSON,

Ignore DT, he's just screwing with you. He knows you know that he's 1kiki.

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Monday, April 10, 2017 9:53 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Sure you're not 1kiki. That's one of her signatures you're displaying. And you forgot to go green. It's hard being both at the same time isn't it?

Oh, here's another grammatical error dreamtrove/1kiki "Nazis in from of posters of four Nazi" It's like every post with you. Like I said before. I don't do this because it's petty. Then you couldn't help yourself when I misspelled a word, a word. Say uncle and I'll stop.


LOL

You're deflecting what you do again.

BTW, I didn't say I recognized you from the pattern of rapport we had. I said we used to get along, and I didn't recognize you. It took me a while. Now you've confirmed it. I have no problem with you. We along with people here, and like you and me, they're bonkers. Who is our rock of sanity? A guy who had it name LEglE ChAnjd TQ Jo753?

I really meant no malice by calling you Nick, I liked Nick. Why hide you ID? I don't think anyone who was calling out Sockpuppet had anything against me.

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Monday, April 10, 2017 10:03 PM

THGRRI


I think you mean why hide your ID, not you ID. If you're straight with people dreamtrove you don't need to deflect. Sorry, I'm laughing again because I've lost count of the times you've said "now you've confirmed it." I'll tell you this, I do remember M52NICKERSON posting here. I'll tell you something else. I think he was posting here long before I even saw my first firefly episode.

Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Sure you're not 1kiki. That's one of her signatures you're displaying. And you forgot to go green. It's hard being both at the same time isn't it?

Oh, here's another grammatical error dreamtrove/1kiki "Nazis in from of posters of four Nazi" It's like every post with you. Like I said before. I don't do this because it's petty. Then you couldn't help yourself when I misspelled a word, a word. Say uncle and I'll stop.


LOL

You're deflecting what you do again.

BTW, I didn't say I recognized you from the pattern of rapport we had. I said we used to get along, and I didn't recognize you. It took me a while. Now you've confirmed it. I have no problem with you. We along with people here, and like you and me, they're bonkers. Who is our rock of sanity? A guy who had it name LEglE ChAnjd TQ Jo753?

I really meant no malice by calling you Nick, I liked Nick. Why hide you ID? I don't think anyone who was calling out Sockpuppet had anything against me.







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Monday, April 10, 2017 10:16 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
blah blah blah ... blah blah ... blah blah, blah blah

lol




Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Monday, April 10, 2017 10:21 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Sure you're not 1kiki. That's one of her signatures you're displaying. And you forgot to go green. It's hard being both at the same time isn't it?

Oh, here's another grammatical error dreamtrove/1kiki "Nazis in from of posters of four Nazi" It's like every post with you. Like I said before. I don't do this because it's petty. Then you couldn't help yourself when I misspelled a word, a word. Say uncle and I'll stop.



Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
G,

John McCain, John Kerry and John Brennan referred to in this case by Jon Stewart as "Obama's Drones" arranged with teh National Socialist Party of the Ukraine (institution openly responsible for 1/4 of the holocaust) to overthrow the democratically elected govt of Ukraine to openly surrender to Germany in the form of the EU. I'm running 0% conspiracy theory here.

Then they teamed with neonazi groups to form Pravyi Sektor. After giving a Nazi salute to Nazis in from of posters of four Nazi war criminals, McCain asked the Nazis to change their name to teh "Freedom Party" and then John Brennan ordered them to bomb the Russians. All of this was reported everywhere.

Okay, How did Putin's puppet Yanukovich get in? Simple. The US and EU foolishly backed different pro-west candidates, splitting the vote, so 30/30/40, with 405 of the population being ethnic Russians.




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Nazis, in front of. Yes, thanks.
Nice deflection, I've made a point of not doing that to you, and you do it every time.
The signature I stole from 1kiki was already green.
It would've spoiled the effect if I had made my post green as well.

Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
I think you mean why hide your ID, not you ID. If you're straight with people dreamtrove you don't need to deflect. Sorry, I'm laughing again because I've lost count of the times you've said "now you've confirmed it."


Yes, of course I meant your. You're doing it again. The deflection thing. Skip the orwellian doublethink of deflecting your deflection. You're decent at being a troll, but is it worth doing?

You confirmed it. I did a while ago. You share Nick's post data, obviously you're him. Everything else confirms it. Be a man about it. I was of no mind to call you out. Why challenge me to?

PS. I actually really feel bad about this, because I actually did like Nick. I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt for a while now. A sockpuppet is not an idenitity. Get ahold of yourself man.

ETA: Now I feel dumb. I see he was called out by Sig in this very thread 3 years ago.
If he just wanted to dodge the deep state bots, why post to the thread?

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Monday, April 10, 2017 10:39 PM

SOCKPUPPET


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:

You're
I'm doing it again, The deflection thing. Skip the orwellian doublethink of deflecting your deflection. You're decent at being a troll, but is it worth doing?

I did a while ago. You share Nick's post data, obviously you're
I'm him.
Everything else confirms it. Be a man about it.
I was
of no mind to call you out. Why challenge me to?

PS. I actually really feel bad about this, because I actually did like Nick. I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt for a while now. A sockpuppet
is not an idenitity. Get ahold of yourself man.


There, fixed that for ya.

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Tuesday, April 11, 2017 9:24 AM

DREAMTROVE


G

I thought I explained this very well. It wasn't rigged, the US and EU were splitting the vote with two pro-west candidates. If you look, you'll see this is true. It's a no conspiracy required situation, plain stupidity and bickering are enough. The whole "Fuck the EU" attitude.

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