Comparing international parenting values by AgentRouka

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Comparing international parenting values

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:03 PM

Basically a fun toy I just came across browsing the web.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/country-comes-parenting-values/

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Which country shares your parenting values?

Not everyone agrees on the best methods for raising kids. That becomes apparent when you examine the results from the 2010-2014 World Values Survey — 82,000 adults across 54 countries were surveyed to gain a better understanding of what they consider most important when raising a child, whether or not they were parents themselves.

This interactive uses the survey data to show which country has values closest to yours.

On top of the page you can take an approximation of the survey and find out which country you match most closely, further down you can compare any two participating countries in a visual. (The choice is a bit lacking but serviceable.)

My "match" was Sweden (also Australia and Germany). Least like Yemen.

I found the high ratings of "hard work", "obedience" and "religious faith" in some of the African countries particularly startling, contrasting nicely with, say, Japan, which is high on "responsibility". Or how common "tolerance" is. Or the varying value of "hard work".

Anyway, I thought I'd share. It's a fun way to kill a few minutes.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:15 PM

BYTEMITE

In America, our values are total control over all hours of the child's waking life, including leashes and play dates and after school activities that mostly fulfill the parent's dead dreams rather than prepare the child for adult life. When the child is old enough, public school then suffices for day care facilities.

And then the kid turns into a horrible teenage rage beast albeit for good reason with no idea what they want to do with their lives before settling for creative sterility and mindless tedium at a desk job.

Now in homeschooling, all of that also applies, except abuse, religious brainwashing, and abstinence only education is also common and not only do those kids not know what to do with their lives but they also lack basic awareness of the modern world and reality and they may not be employable.

EDIT: I actually couldn't get the page to load due to my script blocker, and turning off the script blocker lead to a similar state of non-functionality.

I am also sorry that my negativity scared people off.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 4:07 PM

CHRISISALL

I got Sweden.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 4:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Similar Matches:
New Zealand
Australia
Sweden

Opposite Matches:
Palestine
Yemen
Kuwait

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 4:54 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Mine exactly

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:47 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

Kazakhstan :-)

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:53 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I need to try and game the 'test' to see if I can guess what choices give which results.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:57 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Category
You
obedience
faith
hard work
responsibility
determination
thrift
tolerance
independence
self expression
unselfish
imagination

Similar Matches:
Ghana
Zimbabwe
Nigeria

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:11 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

It's interesting that the Philippines and US overlap almost completely.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 8:43 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Busy, alas - if yer clever and observant you maybe know why...

Anyhows, I note Finland isn't on there, so next best would be Sweden, and that primarily due to the influence of Alice Miller, who's work they took to heart, as opposed to the poisonous pedagogy which masquerades for child raising here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisonous_pedagogy

And I gotta get back to clunking heads, cause somehow the idea of pitching victims in jail while rewarding victimizers for rolling them is offensive to me, no matter how much money and glory it seems to net the badges...

-F

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 11:38 PM

WISHIMAY

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I am also sorry that my negativity scared people off.

No, but maybe you should HAVE a kid before- well, at least like ONE of the buggers- before you rant about what everyone is doing wrong?? Parenting is crazy hard some days...

I got Germany, Japan, and S.Korea

Hmm, all three have a lotta war in their last centuries...

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Wednesday, June 25, 2014 9:40 AM

BYTEMITE

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No, but maybe you should HAVE a kid before- well, at least like ONE of the buggers- before you rant about what everyone is doing wrong?? Parenting is crazy hard some days...

Pfft. Everyone and their dog has an opinion on parenting. I mean from what I understand about the concept of in-laws alone it's basically a constant barrage of unwanted advice. You're honestly saying I was anywhere even approaching the level of in-law meddling?

Mine wasn't even advice, it was straight up bitching in general at everyone and everything as per usual.

The reason for it is because whether or not children are horrifying fluid leaking shrieking abominations, at some point they're supposed to somehow grow up and be mature adults and somehow shepherd the world along to some hopefully non-awful and non-catastrophic path. No amount of advice or bitching can change how utterly likely it is that we're all going to screw it up anyway. But that is the reason why there is advice and bitching and why I am entirely justified in doing so even when I don't particularly care and hate the whole lot of them.

Besides, we've always been screwed up, so it's not like a little bit more screw up is gonna make THAT much difference.

The only thing I didn't do in this thread is try to discuss what values we should pass on to kids, because wtf? Wtf. First, what would I even know about that, and second, if those values are that important, why do we assume it's necessary to define it and force it on the kids? They're going to pick and choose what they hear and what makes sense or not anyway.

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Wednesday, June 25, 2014 9:58 AM

AGENTROUKA

Quote:
Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
The only thing I didn't do in this thread is try to discuss what values we should pass on to kids, because wtf? Wtf. First, what would I even know about that, and second, if those values are that important, why do we assume it's necessary to define it and force it on the kids? They're going to pick and choose what they hear and what makes sense or not anyway.

Note, the article doesn't say "force on them".

There are plenty of ways to teach values, and not all of them involve force. Teaching by honest example, comes to mind.

Not every instance of parenting is abuse, in other words.

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Wednesday, June 25, 2014 10:15 AM

BYTEMITE

I actually don't see a distinction between those two things. Which I suppose says something about me.

Look, I never claimed I was responsible and that I'm not a bad influence and role model. I also never claimed any of my opinions were useful or relevant. Probably most of them aren't?

But this is the internet, so I thought it was okay for me to say them anyway. Guess not.

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Wednesday, June 25, 2014 10:17 AM

AGENTROUKA

Quote:
Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I actually don't see a distinction between those two things. Which I suppose says something about me.

Look, I never claimed I was responsible and that I'm not a bad influence and role model. I also never claimed any of my opinions were useful or relevant. Probably most of them aren't?

But this is the internet, so I thought it was okay for me to say them anyway. Guess not.

Replying to what you say does not equal trying to silence you. :) I appreciate when you post things, even when I don't agree.

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Wednesday, June 25, 2014 11:25 AM

BYTEMITE

Eh, honestly you and Wish are probably right and I'm in over my head here.

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Wednesday, June 25, 2014 11:27 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Quote:
Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
children are horrifying fluid leaking shrieking abominations...

*laughing so hard*
Like xenomorph chestbursters, but lower.

-F

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Wednesday, June 25, 2014 11:59 PM

BYTEMITE

Quote:
*laughing so hard*
Like xenomorph chestbursters, but lower.

I have made that comparison before. I've seen the splatter pattern on the ob-gyn
docs doing the delivery. Heck I think the doctors have made that comparison before.
That stuff ain't pretty.

Plus the whole face hugger thing has so many unfortunate parallels... H.G. Giger
basically tried to make the whole thing as sexualized as possible.

Anyway, I once found a handy guide on how to deliver a baby, please enjoy.

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/HowTo:Deliver_a_Baby,_A_Concise_and
_Easy-to-follow_Guide_Developed,_Tested,_and_Approved_by_the_AMA_%28No,_Not_that_AMA._The_Other_One%29_and_Reprinted_with_the_Permission_of_the_JAMA_%28Also_a_Different_One%29

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Wednesday, January 5, 2022 2:27 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Trump says Biden is waging a 'war on the American way of life' in searing end-of-year statement on president's policy crises

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10354401/Trump-says-Biden-wag
ing-war-American-way-life-searing-end-year-statement.html

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Wednesday, January 5, 2022 4:16 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Interesting necropost.

I took the survey. In my book, hard work, perseverance, responsibility, and frugality are tops. I may not be the brightest bulb in the pack, but if I keep at it, I can at least hold my own.

I think those values would see children thru a lot of life's ups and downs.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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