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Michael Sam gets drafted.

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Saturday, May 10, 2014 8:25 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!





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Saturday, May 10, 2014 8:27 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Very cool!

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Saturday, May 10, 2014 8:33 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Very cool!




It is. To be drafted is a huge deal. Few free agents make the teams, though it does happen. Usually lower round draftees get cut, but may be re-signed on as practice squad members, as I understand. Being a good or even great player in college doesn't automatically translate to being drafted in the NFL.

But what a huge moment in this young man's life.

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Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:17 PM

MAL4PREZ


Hey. Didn't see you'd already started a thread about this. Perestroika on this one issue, my friend.

I am now a St Louis fan.



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Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:25 PM

AURAPTOR

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Yep. No matter what his career holds, it's a benchmark for lots of folks.

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Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:29 AM

CHRISISALL


Assuming this is no calculated misdirect, I now 'get' your love for Reagan...

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Sunday, May 11, 2014 8:12 AM

AURAPTOR

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From ESPN-

PROS: His versatility is very real and he has the ability to stop the run and rush the passer. He has average arm size, but uses every inch well and can shed blocks. He is able to stunt and get good penetration, despite his lack of speed and size because he uses his hands well. He is a vicious tackler, who is quite talented at getting stops, and is a serious wall against the run game. He has a frame to add weight.

CONS: Sam is relatively undersized at the pro level. He is also not incredibly quick. His motor is up-and-down and there seems to be times where he gets tired. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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Sunday, May 11, 2014 8:15 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Assuming this is no calculated misdirect, I now 'get' your love for Reagan...




Was that a homosexual joke ?


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Sunday, May 11, 2014 11:12 AM

WHOZIT


He was picked 249th in the 7th round, if he wasn't gay no one would care.

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Sunday, May 11, 2014 1:00 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
He was picked 249th in the 7th round, if wasn't gay no one would care.



He wasn't the first draftee to cry when he got the word he was selected, but he was the first to engage in PDA w/ another man.

Trivial side note: Some of the 'brothahs ' aren't just upset that Sam has come out, but that he's dating ... wait for it ... a WHITE man! gasp!

Same sort of complaint that many black women say when they see a fine black man w/ a white woman... " What, no sistah is good enough for him ? "


It seems to never end, huh?

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Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:40 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Was that a homosexual joke ?

Not a joke, an observation. Since you aren't & never have been about the substance of things as much as how they LOOK to you, finding out that you're gay just reinforces that with respect to you adoration of Mr. Reagan. As terrible a President as he was, you have to admit he was a good-looking man. A lot of folks drool over Sarah Palin. Can't fault no one for whom they find attractive, but YOU translate your hots for Ronnie into the fantasy that he was a 'great leader.' You need to think more with your northern head, dude.

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Sunday, May 11, 2014 3:20 PM

AURAPTOR

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Not sure which is more sad, your attempt to belittle my views on a great President as nothing but mere 'gayness', ( which apparently in YOUR world is something derogatory and negative ) or the sheer idiocy of your political views.

Seems to be a toss up.


ETA - And everyone should take note here, at who turned a decent and simple thread into some thing ugly. Whoozie ? Jongs?

Nope. It was Chrissy, of all people.



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Sunday, May 11, 2014 3:34 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Not sure which is more sad, your attempt to belittle my views on a great President as nothing but mere 'gayness', ( which apparently in YOUR world is something derogatory and negative ) or the sheer idiocy of your political views.

Seems to be a toss up.


Halfway decent attempt of turning it around on me. The wording is a little awkward, and equating homophobia with mere 'political idiocy' is pretty weak, but for YOU this was a good try.

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Sunday, May 11, 2014 5:12 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Was that a homosexual joke ?

Not a joke, an observation. Since you aren't & never have been about the substance of things as much as how they LOOK to you, finding out that you're gay just reinforces that with respect to you adoration of Mr. Reagan. As terrible a President as he was, you have to admit he was a good-looking man. A lot of folks drool over Sarah Palin. Can't fault no one for whom they find attractive, but YOU translate your hots for Ronnie into the fantasy that he was a 'great leader.' You need to think more with your northern head, dude.



We'll find out how open minded people are when his white boyfriend shows up at games.

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Sunday, May 11, 2014 8:11 PM

AURAPTOR

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Chris , you were crushed.

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Sunday, May 11, 2014 8:49 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Chris , you were crushed.

I had a crush on my 9th grade health teacher, if that's what you mean. She was so fine...



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Sunday, May 11, 2014 8:55 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor

ETA - And everyone should take note here, at who turned a decent and simple thread into some thing ugly. Whoozie ? Jongs?

Nope. It was Chrissy, of all people.


"of all people"?


Domo arigato, Mr. Chrisboto


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Sunday, May 11, 2014 9:10 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
"of all people"?

Yeah, I was taken aback by that too as I clearly have a history of going ballistic here and there. I guess Rap was just waxing dramatic.

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Sunday, May 11, 2014 10:16 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
"of all people"?

Yeah, I was taken aback by that too as I clearly have a history of going ballistic here and there. I guess Rap was just waxing dramatic.


Long live the Ballisticates!

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Sunday, May 11, 2014 11:39 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
"of all people"?

Yeah, I was taken aback by that too as I clearly have a history of going ballistic here and there. I guess Rap was just waxing dramatic.



You were the one who took a well intended thread to a unnecessary place.

Badonya.

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Monday, May 12, 2014 12:10 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

You were the one who took a well intended thread to a unnecessary place.




Sorry, try again. This has been debunked. Once again, you are demonstrably in error, and ensconced in the endless anti-whom-you-hate bullshit. Feel free to go on, and prove yourself more the idiot than you have already (Heh, if that's even possible at this point).
You proved me right here.
Thanks.

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Monday, May 12, 2014 1:45 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
"of all people"?

Yeah, I was taken aback by that too as I clearly have a history of going ballistic here and there. I guess Rap was just waxing dramatic.



You were the one who took a well intended thread to a unnecessary place.


Nothing can be "well intended" here unless it comes from a libtard.

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Monday, May 12, 2014 2:38 AM

ELVISCHRIST


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Not sure which is more sad, your attempt to belittle my views on a great President as nothing but mere 'gayness', ( which apparently in YOUR world is something derogatory and negative ) or the sheer idiocy of your political views.

Seems to be a toss up.


ETA - And everyone should take note here, at who turned a decent and simple thread into some thing ugly. Whoozie ? Jongs?

Nope. It was Chrissy, of all people.




Where did he say it was derogatory or negative?

It seems YOU have a problem with people thinking you're gay, but it certainly didn't sound like Chris had a problem with it. He said it explains your infatuation with Reagan, which it kinda does.

The only one who seemed to take that negatively was you.

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Monday, May 12, 2014 5:36 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Assuming this is no calculated misdirect, I now 'get' your love for Reagan...



Where ? Right here. Implying a 'calculated misdirect' , where there was none, and then trying to belittle straight men, by suggesting they're gay.

Chris's intended put down is itself the gay bashing so many here accuse conservatives of being guilty.

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Monday, May 12, 2014 7:43 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Chris's intended put down is itself the gay bashing so many here accuse conservatives of being guilty.

That's so funny on 2 levels. First, you all twitchy about being perceived of as gay, and second, the scramble to make a put down of YOU as homophobic on my part. Wanna call me racist for sayin' Reagan was a terrible President? I mean, he WAS white & all.
Plus there's the Kindergarten-style wording you employ...

This thread was started with the intention of leveraging a sexual orientation/race debate, correct my brothah? Only you ain't smart enough to lay a good trap, so it backfires on ya. And it doesn't help when you state that homophobia (straight-up prejudice) isn't as bad as political stupidity (voting questionably/arguing politics ineffectually).

Loser.

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Monday, May 12, 2014 8:24 AM

AURAPTOR

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And you continue to drag a decent thread down.

Any chance you could leave your pettiness & childish antics at the door - ever?

This thread was started because I thought it proper for RWED.

But you seem to have some problem with that, ...or maybe just who started it.

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Monday, May 12, 2014 8:44 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
This thread was started because I thought it proper for RWED.




Sorry, try again. This has been debunked. Once again, you are demonstrably in error, and ensconced in the endless anti-whom-you-hate bullshit. Feel free to go on, and prove yourself more the idiot than you have already (Heh, if that's even possible at this point).
You proved me right here.
Thanks.

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Monday, May 12, 2014 9:32 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Quote:

Any chance you could leave your pettiness & childish antics at the door - ever?



Nope. No chance , at all.

Not today , at least.

Oh well.

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Thursday, May 15, 2014 2:14 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



So, still as touching and heartfelt a moment as we thought ? Probably... no. Not so much.


Quote:

Michael Sam is getting the Lindsay Lohan treatment ... as in, the openly gay football player is getting his own reality show on Oprah's TV network ... reps at OWN confirm.

The show -- produced by the same people who did Lindsay's show -- will chronicle Sam's journey into the NFL ... and we're told Sam has already been taping the show for weeks.

In fact, we're told Oprah's crew was in the room when Sam learned he had been drafted by the St. Louis Rams ... and clearly knew his big celebratory kiss with his BF would make for great reality television.

Oprah issued a statement saying, "We are honored that Michael is trusting us with his private journey in this moment that has not only made history but will shape it forever."

Unclear when the series is set to debut -- or how the Rams feel about the situation.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/14/michael-sam-reality-show-oprah-lindsay-l
ohan/#ixzz31oEmgWng




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Thursday, May 15, 2014 3:48 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

So, still as touching and heartfelt a moment as we thought ? Probably... no. Not so much.


Quote:

Michael Sam is getting the Lindsay Lohan treatment ... as in, the openly gay football player is getting his own reality show on Oprah's TV network ... reps at OWN confirm.

The show -- produced by the same people who did Lindsay's show -- will chronicle Sam's journey into the NFL ... and we're told Sam has already been taping the show for weeks.

In fact, we're told Oprah's crew was in the room when Sam learned he had been drafted by the St. Louis Rams ... and clearly knew his big celebratory kiss with his BF would make for great reality television.

Oprah issued a statement saying, "We are honored that Michael is trusting us with his private journey in this moment that has not only made history but will shape it forever."

Unclear when the series is set to debut -- or how the Rams feel about the situation.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/14/michael-sam-reality-show-oprah-lindsay-l
ohan/#ixzz31oEmgWng






That is not a good move. I don;t think the Rams are going to like the idea.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, May 15, 2014 6:16 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


and as expected, tongues are starting to wag as to the background of Michael's boyfriend, who has quite his own history himself.

Quote:



Michael Sam's boyfriend Vito Cammisano comes from line of Midwest mobsters
The hunky 23-year-old is the grandson of the late Mafia boss William (Willie the Rat) Cammisano — who reportedly got his name for the way he disposed of bodies — and the son of Gerlarmo (Jerry) Cammisano, 60, who followed in the family's shady business and ended up doing prison time for running a Kansas City-based gambling ring, according to records.

BY BILL HUTCHINSON NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Monday, May 12, 2014, 5:36 PM

The main squeeze of openly gay NFL player Michael Sam comes from a family of Midwest mobsters.

Vito Cammisano, the hunky 23-year-old former collegiate swimmer, is the grandson of the late Mafia boss William (Willie the Rat) Cammisano.

His father, Gerlarmo (Jerry) Cammisano, 60, followed in the family’s shady business and ended up doing 14 months in prison for running a Kansas City-based gambling ring, according to records.

But on Saturday the Cammisano name became part of a feel-good sports story of the year when Sam became the first openly gay player drafted by an NFL team as Vito proudly stood at his side.

After breaking down in tears when he got the news that his dreams were realized, Sam hugged and kissed Cammisano on the lips as ESPN’s cameras were rolling.


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/michael-sam-boyfriend-mobst
er-grandpa-father-article-1.1789491#ixzz31pDDdVM5






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Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:27 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Not sure which is more sad, your attempt to belittle my views on a great President as nothing but mere 'gayness', ( which apparently in YOUR world is something derogatory and negative ) or the sheer idiocy of your political views.

Seems to be a toss up.


ETA - And everyone should take note here, at who turned a decent and simple thread into some thing ugly. Whoozie ? Jongs?

Nope. It was Chrissy, of all people.



I thought he did that every thread.

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Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:32 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I thought he did that every thread.



Sorry, try again. This has been debunked. Once again, you are demonstrably in error, and ensconced in the endless anti-whom-you-hate bullshit. Feel free to go on, and prove yourself more the idiot than you have already (Heh, if that's even possible at this point).
You proved me right here.
Thanks.

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Friday, May 16, 2014 10:03 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


well, it was worth a try.


OWN calls off Michael Sam series

The Oprah Winfrey Network (OWN) and Michael Sam's representation announced Friday night that the documentary series that was set to feature the first openly gay NFL player has been postponed.


"After careful consideration and discussion with the St. Louis Rams, 'The Untitled Michael Sam Project' has been postponed, allowing Michael the best opportunity to achieve his dreams of making the team," OWN president Erik Logan said in a statement. "OWN is about elevating and empowering people to achieve their best. It's clear that we, along with the world, recognize the opportunity that Michael has in this moment. We will continue to support him in his journey to earn a spot playing for the Rams."


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10944070/michael-sam-documentary-opr
ah-winfrey-network-postponed


FOOTBALL folks are giving Michael Sam a less than 50/50 shot at even making the opening day roster for the Rams. They're loaded at his position, so don't be shocked if he's cut.

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Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:21 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Rams cut Sam.

Won't be surprised if he's picked up by another team though. Think he had a good pre-season.

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Saturday, August 30, 2014 11:05 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Rams cut Sam.

Won't be surprised if he's picked up by another team though.


That's a shame. But I'm sure a quarterback sack is in his future. Who knows where he'll end up.

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Saturday, September 6, 2014 7:50 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Mike likes him some big D.

IRVING, Texas -- When Michael Sam was released last weekend by the St. Louis Rams, he was sure another opportunity, if not with the Rams, would come.

When his phone didn't ring over the weekend, there was some surprise a dominant college pass-rusher couldn't get a bite with another NFL team. It all changed Wednesday morning when Sam passed a physical and joined the Dallas Cowboys' 10-man practice squad.

"It was a little longer than I expected," said Sam, who is trying to become the first openly gay player to participate in an NFL regular-season game. "But you know what, I'm here now, and that's all that matters."

The Cowboys downplayed Sam's arrival, saying the objective is to play against the San Francisco 49ers in the season opener Sunday afternoon at AT&T Stadium.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/11458402/michael-sam-signs-
dallas-cowboys

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Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:52 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


And now the Dallas cowboys have dropped him as well.

Atlanta next?

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Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:49 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
And now the Dallas cowboys have dropped him as well.

Atlanta next?



Naw, he'll likely end up at LOGO Sports doing commentary...when they start a sports divsion. Until than he's just going to be gay.


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Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:14 PM

JONGSSTRAW


He's not the first talented college player to wash out of the NFL, but something about the Cowboy's decision to cut him now doesn't feel right. They're having a great season at 6-1.

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Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:28 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
He's not the first talented college player to wash out of the NFL, but something about the Cowboy's decision to cut him now doesn't feel right. They're having a great season at 6-1.



Having not followed the Cowboys, best I can tell is that they didn't need him. When he was brought on, it was likely more of a PR stunt, and not out of any real need. Since then, Dallas has gone from an also ran to having a legit season. The 'side show' of having Sam around is no longer required.

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Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:47 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
He's not the first talented college player to wash out of the NFL, but something about the Cowboy's decision to cut him now doesn't feel right. They're having a great season at 6-1.



Having not followed the Cowboys, best I can tell is that they didn't need him. When he was brought on, it was likely more of a PR stunt, and not out of any real need. Since then, Dallas has gone from an also ran to having a legit season. The 'side show' of having Sam around is no longer required.


That's pretty harsh and calculatingly cold. There really hasn't been a 'side show' with Sam except that the Cowboys are winning and in first place. Surely Jerry Jones would never be so deceitful and duplicitous to Michael Sam.

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Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:18 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


When Jerry said -



I don't think he had Michael Sam in mind.


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Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:39 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


And he just quit his CFL team, just walked away the day before their first game this season.

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Sunday, June 14, 2015 9:48 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
And he just quit his CFL team, just walked away the day before their first game this season.



Eh, his 15 minutes of fame is up.

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Monday, June 15, 2015 7:26 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
And he just quit his CFL team, just walked away the day before their first game this season.



Eh, his 15 minutes of fame is up.


Perhaps NFL Press booth teams are racist unless they have a gay in there, so he will need to be hired. Or homophobic.

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Friday, August 14, 2015 8:37 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
And he just quit his CFL team, just walked away the day before their first game this season.



Eh, his 15 minutes of fame is up.



It is now. Well, at least his career is done.



MONTREAL (AP) — Michael Sam is stepping away from pro football.

Sam, the first openly gay player drafted by the NFL, has told the CFL's Montreal Alouettes that he is leaving the team. He tweeted Friday that "The last 12 months have been very difficult for me, to the point where I became concerned with my mental health. Because of this I am going to step away from the game at this time."

He did not play in Montreal's game against Edmonton on Thursday night, citing a sore back. He made his CFL debut the previous week.

Sam was selected in the seventh round of the 2014 NFL draft by the Rams, did not make the team, and spent some time on the Cowboys' practice squad before being released.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/michael-sam-leaves-cfls-alouettes-235009090-
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Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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