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Ronald Reagan's Benghazi

POSTED BY: KPO
UPDATED: Friday, May 9, 2014 08:44
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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 9:23 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


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Watching Issa silhouetted against the Belle Époque windows of the Italian Ambassador’s residence, which were wide open to a garden bathed in colored spotlights, I found myself thinking about another tragedy, thirty years ago, that played out very differently.

Around dawn on October 23, 1983, I was in Beirut, Lebanon, when a suicide bomber drove a truck laden with the equivalent of twenty-one thousand pounds of TNT into the heart of a U.S. Marine compound, killing two hundred and forty-one servicemen. The U.S. military command, which regarded the Marines’ presence as a non-combative, “peace-keeping mission,” had left a vehicle gate wide open, and ordered the sentries to keep their weapons unloaded. The only real resistance the suicide bomber had encountered was a scrim of concertina wire. When I arrived on the scene a short while later to report on it for the Wall Street Journal, the Marine barracks were flattened. From beneath the dusty, smoking slabs of collapsed concrete, piteous American voices could be heard, begging for help. Thirteen more American servicemen later died from injuries, making it the single deadliest attack on American Marines since the Battle of Iwo Jima.

Six months earlier, militants had bombed the U.S. embassy in Beirut, too, killing sixty-three more people, including seventeen Americans. Among the dead were seven C.I.A. officers, including the agency’s top analyst in the Middle East, an immensely valuable intelligence asset, and the Beirut station chief.

There were more than enough opportunities to lay blame for the horrific losses at high U.S. officials’ feet. But unlike today’s Congress, congressmen did not talk of impeaching Ronald Reagan, who was then President, nor were any subpoenas sent to cabinet members. This was true even though then, as now, the opposition party controlled the majority in the House. Tip O’Neill, the Democratic Speaker of the House, was no pushover. He, like today’s opposition leaders in the House, demanded an investigation—but a real one, and only one. Instead of playing it for political points, a House committee undertook a serious investigation into what went wrong at the barracks in Beirut. Two months later, it issued a report finding “very serious errors in judgment” by officers on the ground, as well as responsibility up through the military chain of command, and called for better security measures against terrorism in U.S. government installations throughout the world.

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http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2014/05/ronald-reagans-b
enghazi.html

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 9:27 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity


Back then our leaders stood together when tragedy hit as this did. When our president was on foreign soil he was not bad mouthed by the other party. Again they backed him in front of the world.

There is nothing honest or noble about the behavior of most politicians today or in the people that judge them.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 9:55 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Not remotely close to Barry & Hillarys screw up. Sad/ pathetic that the Left has to go back 32 years , besmirch a truly great President , just to cover for not 1 but 2 incompetent, lying sacks of shite.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 9:58 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Not remotely close to Barry & Hillarys screw up. Sad/ pathetic that the Left has to go back 32 years , besmirch a truly great President , just to cover for not 1 but 2 incompetent, lying sacks of shite.



I know this is going to come back and byte me in the as but Rappy shit is spelled, well shit.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:51 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by MIKERaptor:
I know this is going to come back and byte me in the as but Rappy shit is spelled, well shit.

I agree. It's spelled well.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:53 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity


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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by MIKERaptor:
I know this is going to come back and byte me in the as but Rappy shit is spelled, well shit.

I agree. It's spelled well.



Thank you Rappet

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Thursday, May 8, 2014 7:05 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Not remotely close to Barry & Hillarys screw up. Sad/ pathetic that the Left has to go back 32 years , besmirch a truly great President , just to cover for not 1 but 2 incompetent, lying sacks of shite.



254 US marines killed in a single terrorist incident. Just imagine if that had happened on Obama's watch. But we're looking at a time before such tragedies were politicised, as they are now.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Thursday, May 8, 2014 7:17 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by kpo:
254 US marines killed in a single terrorist incident. Just imagine if that had happened on Obama's watch.

It never even occurred to me to blame Reagan for that (And I REALLY disliked that asshole). I guess I should have. But it just wasn't in me. I've never been an opportunistic reactionary little shit like that.

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Friday, May 9, 2014 1:14 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Agreed. It's embarrassing how these Obstructionists behave toward the president. In all my years following politics I have never seen such abject vitriol towards a sitting president.

And now the NRCC is shamelessly fundraising off the tragedy of Benghazi.
Absolutely no scruples.


SGG

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Originally posted by MIKER:
Back then our leaders stood together when tragedy hit as this did. When our president was on foreign soil he was not bad mouthed by the other party. Again they backed him in front of the world.

There is nothing honest or noble about the behavior of most politicians today or in the people that judge them.


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Friday, May 9, 2014 8:44 AM

ELVISCHRIST


Apparently if you get 254 Marines killed, you're "a truly great president".

Or you could just go and get more than 4000 American soldiers killed and more than 3000 Americans killed in one day. AuRaptor would consider you a "patriot" if you managed to do that.

Well, as long as you had an (R) after your name, that is.

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