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Dangerous Girl viciously attacks nice Police Officer- found guilty of Felony Assault

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:27 AM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:38 AM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:42 AM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:43 AM

JONGSSTRAW


After a trial, a jury of men and women found her guilty of assaulting a NYC police officer. Lesson: You can't resist arrest and you can't hit cops. She'll get a light sentence.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:47 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Just because she was on the side of a good cause doesn't mean she is not guilty.
You don't have a [bad word] clue what you're talking about. Why not find out a little more on this before posting about it? No one needs to read a non-opinion on this (or anything else, for that matter).

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:49 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
She'll get a light sentence.

Hopefully, but the point is she should get NO sentence. But self defence where a cop is involved is defacto Assault.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:58 AM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:58 AM

CHRISISALL


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/04/nypd-officer-lawsuit-bove
ll-guest-mcmillan-occupy


Hmmm, imagine that. The arresting officer has a history with trouble. Whoda thought?

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:04 AM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:04 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
It is a flaw in the system unless you can present evidence of it. Today with all the cell phones we are getting to see more of what you speak. Her friends should have posted what was going on online and presented evidence in court.

Well, the trouble with that is what the particular judge allows to BE presented.

Here are pictures of her arrest (not allowed into evidence):
http://gawker.com/here-are-new-disturbing-pictures-of-the-arrest-of-ce
ci-1572470447

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:06 AM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:21 AM

CHRISISALL


Here are some videos:
http://www.heavy.com/news/2014/05/cecily-mcmillan-occupy-wall-street-g
uilty-police-assault
/

To be fair, yeah, she nailed the officer (I mean, as much as a hundred pound girl is able to). I don't know how good YOUR vision is, but just before she whirls around his left had is locking right onto her right breast.
So folks, when a big cop feels you up roughly, just lie back and enjoy it. Fight the urge to move instinctively is today's take away.


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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:27 AM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:30 AM

REAVERFAN


On the stand, the molester had trouble remembering which eye was hurt. The cops beat her until she had a seizure. The judge heavily favored the prosecution, and disallowed the cop's sordid, violent history.


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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:33 AM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:37 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
I do not wish to seem disrespectful but there is no way that girl is a hundred pounds. You are seeing what you are predisposed to see.

Point taken. I'd clock her in at about 130 lbs.
Why was she not handcuffed at that point? It's always the first thing you're supposed to do...

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:37 AM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:39 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
I will repeat what was stated by someone else earlier. When placed under arrest do not get hysterical and fight with the arresting officer. You may get hurt.

AND as was mentioned earlier, don't have normal, human reactions to a hand squeezing your breast. You may be beaten into a seizure.


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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:43 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Why is this side show getting so much attention?

Because she bravely (stupidly-?) decided NOT to cave in and plead guilty. She fought the law.


And the law won.

I been there myself.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:44 AM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:51 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/05/occupy-wall-street-cecily
-mcmillan-guilty-assaulting-police-officer


My faith in the U.S. criminal justice system is officially down to zero.



You're only just now getting there??

Guillotines man, they're a'comin....



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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:53 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
It is a flaw in the system unless you can present evidence of it. Today with all the cell phones we are getting to see more of what you speak. Her friends should have posted what was going on online and presented evidence in court.

Well, the trouble with that is what the particular judge allows to BE presented.

Here are pictures of her arrest (not allowed into evidence):
http://gawker.com/here-are-new-disturbing-pictures-of-the-arrest-of-ce
ci-1572470447



There is no assault there just an hysterical girl.



Are you fuckin' high???



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Americans killed under Obama due to "intelligence failures": 4

Americans killed under Bush due to "intelligence failures": 7000+

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:55 AM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:58 AM

REAVERFAN


http://www.alternet.org/occupy-wall-street/why-occupy-protester-cecily
-mcmillans-guilty-verdict-travesty
]

Why Occupy Protester Cecily McMillan's Guilty Verdict is a Travesty

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:02 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
http://www.alternet.org/occupy-wall-street/why-occupy-protester-cecily
-mcmillans-guilty-verdict-travesty


"what happened to McMillan reveals just how powerful and unrestrained a massive police force can be in fighting back against the very people with whom it is charged to protect."

Yep. It's SOP now. Nothing to see. Move along.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:04 PM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:13 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
http://www.alternet.org/occupy-wall-street/why-occupy-protester-cecily
-mcmillans-guilty-verdict-travesty
]

Why Occupy Protester Cecily McMillan's Guilty Verdict is a Travesty



Ok, This is an opinion piece written by the Guardian a very far left leaning paper. I don't consider this thread as offering any insight as to what happened.

It's not the slant of the reporter, but the facts being reported that matter.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:18 PM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:18 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:

the Guardian a very far left leaning paper.

Thank you AURaptor.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:27 PM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
http://www.alternet.org/occupy-wall-street/why-occupy-protester-cecily
-mcmillans-guilty-verdict-travesty
]

Why Occupy Protester Cecily McMillan's Guilty Verdict is a Travesty



Ok, This is an opinion piece written by the Guardian a very far left leaning paper. I don't consider this thread as offering any insight as to what happened.

It's not the slant of the reporter, but the facts being reported that matter.




I am sorry, I did not notice any facts being offered. That happened at the trial.

Actually, they weren't.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:37 PM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:43 PM

M52NICKERSON

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This whole thing is a mess. It does seem the Judge was far to much on the side of the Prosicution and the officer does have some history of ill behaviour.

On the other hand McMillan stated she had been drinking and the video does not look like a reaction from getting grabed.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:51 PM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:56 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:
the video does not look like a reaction from getting grabed.

I've watched it like twenty times now (it's my day off) and to ME, it appears that his hand is clutching her breast from frame one. I'll put it down to mounting frustration and humiliation. It's not a sudden reaction to a sudden grab, but rather an explosive reaction to building discomfort. The bruise on her breast wasn't caused by a gentle fondle.
The officer fucked up. Imagine holding a guy that way? Nope. She should have been cuffed & led, not groped & pulled close.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:58 PM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 1:00 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:

Read my post above. Focusing on this is killing the movement. Are we talking about the wall-street movement and what it is about. No we are talking about some ones breast. What is more important here?

I don't know Rap, U tell me.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 1:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
Rappy 2.


When you create a character you have to BE that character when you type. Any good writer knows this. Consistency is key. Readers will notice slip ups.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 1:22 PM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 1:22 PM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:
the video does not look like a reaction from getting grabed.

I've watched it like twenty times now (it's my day off) and to ME, it appears that his hand is clutching her breast from frame one. I'll put it down to mounting frustration and humiliation. It's not a sudden reaction to a sudden grab, but rather an explosive reaction to building discomfort. The bruise on her breast wasn't caused by a gentle fondle.
The officer fucked up. Imagine holding a guy that way? Nope. She should have been cuffed & led, not groped & pulled close.



The problem is see is that the bruse on her beast is on the upper part of the breast, right were you you have your had if picking someone up with your arm under theirs. So the growing frustration could have been from that.

The problem here is the fact that any assault that took place from the police officer is not clear, but her elbow is. Even you just stated that the video does not fit with a sudden reaction.

I'm not saying that the officer was in the right, or that she is in the wrong, but proving that is going to be tough.

At this point I hope her appeal goes through and if she is goes through.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 1:26 PM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
Read my post above. Focusing on this is killing the movement. Are we talking about the wall-street movement and what it is about. No we are talking about some ones breast. What is more important here?



The breast is more important. As you said the movment is dying. However there is always a concern that the Police may abuse the powers they are given. I don't know if that happend here, but it needs a fair look.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 1:28 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:

The problem is see is that the bruse on her beast is on the upper part of the breast, right were you you have your had if picking someone up with your arm under theirs.

His left arm was under her left arm with his left hand tuggin' at her right side chest to keep her close. As a trained officer, that's about the stupidest way possible to restrain a perp. Even a small girl perp.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 1:29 PM

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 2:21 PM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
His left arm was under her left arm with his left hand tuggin' at her right side chest to keep her close. As a trained officer, that's about the stupidest way possible to restrain a perp. Even a small girl perp.



Well we are not crediting this office with an overabundance of brains.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 2:23 PM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
The police are always abusing the law. Having a badge does not make you righteous. As for the movement I really hope it has a resurgence. I prefer not to live in a verse controlled by the Alliance.



I don't know about always, but it does happen. That is why cases like this are important.

Now as far as the Occupy movement, in the end they accomplished very little. As much as I hate to admit it, the Tea Party accomplished a lot more.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 3:12 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Same as you would.

Treat me with all the contempt you want to, call me every name in the book, but touch me in any wrong fashion, and your finger is forfeit.
Most bullies will hit a the drop of a bad word, I never would.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2014 3:20 PM

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Wow, all doubt removed. You are Rappy for real.

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