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Saturday, April 12, 2014 12:48 PM

AURAPTOR

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Brandeis University's Decision To Cancel Ayaan Hirsi Ali Appearance Has Done Liberals No Favors


Yesterday, it suddenly became very important to focus our attention on the upcoming commencement ceremony at Brandeis University -- which is ordinarily something that most of the wide world outside the Brandeis community could frankly give two figs about. But here's what happened. Brandeis had intended to bring author and -- I guess -- "thought leader" Ayaan Hirsi Ali to their commencement festivities, bestow her with an honorary degree and let her speak to students and fellows at a diploma ceremony and a celebratory breakfast.

Well, as of yesterday, all of that is off. In a statement, the Brandeis said: "She is a compelling public figure and advocate for women's rights, and we respect and appreciate her work to protect and defend the rights of women and girls throughout the world ... That said, we cannot overlook certain of her past statements that are inconsistent with Brandeis University's core values."

So, what's all that about? Well, Hirsi Ali is a figure of some controversy, don't you know! She has been a strong voice against such barbaric practices as female genital mutilation, and the more totalitarian aspects of Islamic sharia law that oppress women, such as so-called "honor killings." Personally speaking, I am glad she has done such things. However, she is not of the mind that Islam is a legitimate religion that has been, in some instances, tragically co-opted in some benighted corners of the world by nihilistic death-cults. She does not believe it is possible for a moderate or Westernized form of Islam to exist. She has said so: "There is no moderate Islam." And so, she has called for the complete destruction of Islam existentially.

I do not hold to that view -- in fact, I find it both risible and farcically contrary to my own experiences -- and she will just have to jolly well accept that. But the reverse is also true, and herein lies the problem we have been presented with, thanks to Brandeis University. Whether they know it or not, the actions they have taken have done way more harm than good. To anyone with a liberal-minded attitude toward freedom of expression, Brandeis' decision has done you no favors. Let's break it down, shall we?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/10/brandeis-ayaan-hirsi-ali_n_51
27792.html





Islam is a religion of peace. That's why Ayaan Hirsi Ali has armed guards, even at über-liberal Occidental College when I saw her speak 2011 - Michael Shermer, Skeptic, Author.

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Saturday, April 12, 2014 5:40 PM

KANEMAN


There is no war on women. Period. From either side. The war is against men. Especially white men. Have some balls and say it! instead of playing games....You are dumb.

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Saturday, April 12, 2014 5:52 PM

AURAPTOR

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She's not a white man, moron.

Read the article, stop sniffing glue.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Monday, April 14, 2014 8:42 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Here's What I Would Have Said at Brandeis

By AYAAN HIRSI ALI
April 10, 2014
Wall Street Journal

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304512504579493410
287663906?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304512504579493410287663906.html

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Excerpt:
One year ago, the city and suburbs of Boston were still in mourning. Families who only weeks earlier had children and siblings to hug were left with only photographs and memories. Still others were hovering over bedsides, watching as young men, women, and children endured painful surgeries and permanent disfiguration. All because two brothers, radicalized by jihadist websites, decided to place homemade bombs in backpacks near the finish line of one of the most prominent events in American sports, the Boston Marathon.

All of you in the Class of 2014 will never forget that day and the days that followed. You will never forget when you heard the news, where you were, or what you were doing. And when you return here, 10, 15 or 25 years from now, you will be reminded of it. The bombs exploded just 10 miles from this campus.

I read an article recently that said many adults don't remember much from before the age of 8. That means some of your earliest childhood memories may well be of that September morning simply known as "9/11."

You deserve better memories than 9/11 and the Boston Marathon bombing. And you are not the only ones. In Syria, at least 120,000 people have been killed, not simply in battle, but in wholesale massacres, in a civil war that is increasingly waged across a sectarian divide. Violence is escalating in Iraq, in Lebanon, in Libya, in Egypt. And far more than was the case when you were born, organized violence in the world today is disproportionately concentrated in the Muslim world.

Another striking feature of the countries I have just named, and of the Middle East generally, is that violence against women is also increasing. In Saudi Arabia, there has been a noticeable rise in the practice of female genital mutilation. In Egypt, 99% of women report being sexually harassed and up to 80 sexual assaults occur in a single day.

Especially troubling is the way the status of women as second-class citizens is being cemented in legislation. In Iraq, a law is being proposed that lowers to 9 the legal age at which a girl can be forced into marriage. That same law would give a husband the right to deny his wife permission to leave the house.

Sadly, the list could go on. I hope I speak for many when I say that this is not the world that my generation meant to bequeath yours. When you were born, the West was jubilant, having defeated Soviet communism. An international coalition had forced Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait. The next mission for American armed forces would be famine relief in my homeland of Somalia. There was no Department of Homeland Security, and few Americans talked about terrorism.

Two decades ago, not even the bleakest pessimist would have anticipated all that has gone wrong in the part of world where I grew up. After so many victories for feminism in the West, no one would have predicted that women's basic human rights would actually be reduced in so many countries as the 20th century gave way to the 21st.

Today, however, I am going to predict a better future, because I believe that the pendulum has swung almost as far as it possibly can in the wrong direction.

When I see millions of women in Afghanistan defying threats from the Taliban and lining up to vote; when I see women in Saudi Arabia defying an absurd ban on female driving; and when I see Tunisian women celebrating the conviction of a group of policemen for a heinous gang rape, I feel more optimistic than I did a few years ago. The misnamed Arab Spring has been a revolution full of disappointments. But I believe it has created an opportunity for traditional forms of authority—including patriarchal authority—to be challenged, and even for the religious justifications for the oppression of women to be questioned.

Yet for that opportunity to be fulfilled, we in the West must provide the right kind of encouragement. Just as the city of Boston was once the cradle of a new ideal of liberty, we need to return to our roots by becoming once again a beacon of free thought and civility for the 21st century. When there is injustice, we need to speak out, not simply with condemnation, but with concrete actions.

One of the best places to do that is in our institutions of higher learning. We need to make our universities temples not of dogmatic orthodoxy, but of truly critical thinking, where all ideas are welcome and where civil debate is encouraged. I'm used to being shouted down on campuses, so I am grateful for the opportunity to address you today. I do not expect all of you to agree with me, but I very much appreciate your willingness to listen.



She speaks the truth from experience on the treatment of women in the Muslim world. Add to that Islam's position on homosexuality, and how it's dealt with in Islamist countries. One can only wonder why Libtards support and defend these savage neanderthals.

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Monday, April 14, 2014 9:01 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by KANEMAN:
There is no war on women. Period.

It's ongoing, and has been in place for centuries, today it's more covert in the west, and more wildly apparent in the more, shall I say, "tribal" regions, you filthy stupid anal-retentive piece of infantile shit.
No offence.

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Monday, April 14, 2014 9:05 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
One can only wonder why Libtards support and defend these savage neanderthals.

I'll say it again, storm the shitholes, and take the adult males in custody. Any detainee that cannot produce the name of one female to vouch for his decency should be humanely put to sleep.

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Monday, April 14, 2014 9:10 PM

JONGSSTRAW


^^ I applaud your courage to acknowledge the problems, and I admire your originality. But I believe Muslim women in Islamic countries have been so sytematically brutalized all their lives that they would vouch for every single monster that ever laid hands on them. Like Patty Hearst Syndrome on steroids. That's why Miss Ali is so remarkable and so brave. Benazir Bhutto was a brave reformer as well. She was slaughtered for her beliefs.

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Monday, April 14, 2014 9:29 PM

JONGSSTRAW


And what about Gays in the Muslim world? Since being gay is a genetic thing as opposed to a choice, one can reasonably assume there are at least 100 million gays and lesbians living within Islamist countries. Not being able to get married to another gay person is probably the least of their problems. Yet we don't ever hear much from them on how they just simply get by in their lives.


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Monday, April 14, 2014 9:34 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
And what about Gays in the Muslim world? Since being gay is a genetic thing as opposed to a choice, one can reasonably assume there are at least 100 million gays and lesbians living within Islamist countries. Not being able to get married to another gay person is probably the least of their problems. Yet we don't ever hear much from them on how they just simply get by in their lives.




I referenced this in another thread, but this should be interesting to see how it plays out....

Some Cleveland Hopkins cab drivers refuse to drive with Gay Games signage

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Some drivers of the zone-based taxis operating out of Cleveland Hopkins International Airport have notified their companies they don't want to drive the cabs for religious reasons, citing rooftop placards that are advertising the upcoming Gay Games.

Hopkins released a statement saying that two of the three taxi companies operating at the airport -- Ace and Yellow Taxi – were informed by several of their drivers they will no longer participate in the airport's dedicated taxi cab program.

Patrick Keenan, general manager for the third company, Americab, said two of his drivers also have opted not to drive because of the Gay Games ads. The drivers are Muslims, Keenan and Hopkins spokeswoman Jackie Mayo said.

The drivers told their companies that their decision was based on religious reasons, Hopkins said in its statement.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/04/some_cleveland_hopkin
s_cab_dri.html


Seems we can make Christians make and sell gay wedding cakes and take gay wedding photos, but apparently the line is drawn at making Muslims drive w/ gay game ads or be forced to transport gay customers.

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Monday, April 14, 2014 9:46 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"Seems we can make Christians make and sell gay wedding cakes and take gay wedding photos ..."

You have a cite for that?


To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. - Thomas Paine The American Crisis
OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Monday, April 14, 2014 9:53 PM

AURAPTOR

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Try keeping up w/ current events.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Monday, April 14, 2014 10:24 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
^^ I applaud your courage to acknowledge the problems, and I admire your originality. But I believe Muslim women in Islamic countries have been so sytematically brutalized all their lives that they would vouch for every single monster that ever laid hands on them. Like Patty Hearst Syndrome on steroids.

I don't know, given the brief chance to say a final goodbye to fiend with no ramifications, I'd bet you'd get a lot more "I don't know this man"s than you think.

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Monday, April 14, 2014 11:34 PM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by chrisisall:

I don't know, given the brief chance to say a final goodbye to fiend with no ramifications, I'd bet you'd get a lot more "I don't know this man"s than you think.


You may be right, but it's a completely moot point in an impossible scenario involving an incredibly large segment of the world's population. Regardless, kudos for your unexpected candor on the subject.

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:02 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So the answer is no. You know, you have multiple posts over multiple threads where you make many claims for which you have provided exactly zero evidence. Past this point, you're just going to get my standard reply to idiocy.
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Seems we can make Christians make and sell gay wedding cakes and take gay wedding photos ...

You have a cite for that?

Try keeping up w/ current events.





To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. - Thomas Paine The American Crisis
OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:15 AM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So the answer is no. You know, you have multiple posts over multiple threads where you make many claims for which you have provided exactly zero evidence. Past this point, you're just going to get my standard reply to idiocy.




You enjoy being shown to be a complete and utter fool, don't you ?

Very well.

Colorado's Masterpiece Cakeshop At Center Of Gay Rights Battle

LAKEWOOD, Colo. (AP) — The encounter at Jack Phillips' Masterpiece Cakeshop lasted less than a minute.

Phillips stepped out from behind the counter in his small, pastry-crammed shop to meet customers Charlie Craig and Dave Mullins. They told him they wanted a cake to celebrate their own marriage.

Phillips replied he couldn't, but that he'd be glad to make one for other occasions, such as birthdays. Left unsaid was how making a gay wedding cake would violate his Christian faith, how he does not make ones for Halloween or bachelor parties, either.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/06/gay-wedding-cake-cause_n_5100
645.html


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:40 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So the answer is no. You know, you have multiple posts over multiple threads where you make many claims for which you have provided exactly zero evidence. Past this point, you're just going to get my standard reply to idiocy.




You enjoy being shown to be a complete and utter fool, don't you ?

Very well.

Colorado's Masterpiece Cakeshop At Center Of Gay Rights Battle

LAKEWOOD, Colo. (AP) — The encounter at Jack Phillips' Masterpiece Cakeshop lasted less than a minute.

Phillips stepped out from behind the counter in his small, pastry-crammed shop to meet customers Charlie Craig and Dave Mullins. They told him they wanted a cake to celebrate their own marriage.

Phillips replied he couldn't, but that he'd be glad to make one for other occasions, such as birthdays. Left unsaid was how making a gay wedding cake would violate his Christian faith, how he does not make ones for Halloween or bachelor parties, either.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/06/gay-wedding-cake-cause_n_5100
645.html


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall




The original post has nothing to do with her being a women, it is about her views on a major world religion.

The above needs to get filed under "welcome to anti-discrimination laws".

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:16 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:
The original post has nothing to do with her being a women, it is about her views on a major world religion.

The above needs to get filed under "welcome to anti-discrimination laws".



As the so called ' war on women ' is itself a wholly concocted and contrived political ploy, the OP is every bit as valid in being described as such.

Oh, and there actually IS a legitimate "War on Women ", by Islam. And Ms Ali is living proof.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:27 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
As the so called ' war on women ' is itself a wholly concocted and contrived political ploy,

Oh, and there actually IS a legitimate "War on Women "



You are too funny, man.

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:42 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
As the so called ' war on women ' is itself a wholly concocted and contrived political ploy,

Oh, and there actually IS a legitimate "War on Women "



You are too funny, man.



A walking cartoon representing all that is batshit crazy on the right (with an astoundingly bad understanding of irony in any form).





"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:59 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
As the so called ' war on women ' is itself a wholly concocted and contrived political ploy,

Oh, and there actually IS a legitimate "War on Women "



You are too funny, man.



Nothing more hi-larious than female genital mutilation and honor killings, eh Chrissy ?

Was the difference too subtle for ya ? The phony political tactic of the Democrats, vs the actual real subjugation of women by the religion of Islam ?

Yeah, chuckle worthy.

But unlike others here, I don't live in a perpetual state of mind of a 10 year old, looking to make jokes out of every damn thing, because my brain hasn't developed near enough to deal w/ actual adult , real life issues.

( Storybook, that means you, genius )

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:11 PM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:
The original post has nothing to do with her being a women, it is about her views on a major world religion.

The above needs to get filed under "welcome to anti-discrimination laws".



As the so called ' war on women ' is itself a wholly concocted and contrived political ploy, the OP is every bit as valid in being described as such.

Oh, and there actually IS a legitimate "War on Women ", by Islam. And Ms Ali is living proof.



When you have a group trying to pass restrictions that only effect women...fuck it! This has been explained to you a few times.

You are right that is some Islamic countries women are not treated fairly. However they (women) are not treated fairly is some non-Islamic countries as well.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:20 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:


When you have a group trying to pass restrictions that only effect women...fuck it! This has been explained to you a few times.



Trolls make it a point to ignore such things.




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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:21 PM

CHRISISALL


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Yeah, chuckle worthy.

The topic? Not one bit.
YOU however are a different story...

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:32 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:

When you have a group trying to pass restrictions that only effect women...fuck it! This has been explained to you a few times.



Sure, there's a tiny minority with in a group, and because of that, the Left tries to make it all about the ENTIRE group. For purely political reasons.

Yeah, I've had the dogma repeated to me, many times. I'm still not buying it.

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You are right that is some Islamic countries women are not treated fairly. However they (women) are not treated fairly is some non-Islamic countries as well.



I think most would rather be in those countries than just about any Islamic ruled nation. And that's where I have a problem w/ the Left's contrived ' war on women ' crap. It's beyond over the top hyperbole, which ignores ACTUAL abuses and injustices, and seeks to gen up hate and animosity here, for the simple purpose of getting out the vote. Win at all cost, no matter if society suffers.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:38 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
And that's where I have a problem w/ the Left's contrived ' war on women ' crap. It's beyond over the top hyperbole, which ignores ACTUAL abuses and injustices

No, no, you're correct. If I were a woman, I'd rather be raped in America & told I must by LAW carry and birth the child of my attacker than be beaten every day of my life in Saudi Arabia.






You dumass.

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:59 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
And that's where I have a problem w/ the Left's contrived ' war on women ' crap. It's beyond over the top hyperbole, which ignores ACTUAL abuses and injustices

No, no, you're correct. If I were a woman, I'd rather be raped in America & told I must by LAW carry and birth the child of my attacker than be beaten every day of my life in Saudi Arabia.






You dumass.



Exactly where in the US is that law on the books ?

And if a woman gets raped in Saudi Arabia, she might get killed, because she didn't fight back hard enough, which clearly is a sign that she wanted it, so she wasn't REALLY raped at all.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:06 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Exactly where in the US is that law on the books, here in the US ?

In the US... here in the US...

Au, I think you need some sleep based on today's posts.

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:30 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Exactly where in the US is that law on the books, here in the US ?

In the US... here in the US...

Au, I think you need some sleep based on today's posts.



You still did not answer, regardless of how I butchered the question.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:34 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:
The original post has nothing to do with her being a women, it is about her views on a major world religion.

The above needs to get filed under "welcome to anti-discrimination laws".








No, you're missing the point entirely. The bit you've quoted was off topic, and between 1kik and I.


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:37 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So the answer is no. You know, you have multiple posts over multiple threads where you make many claims for which you have provided exactly zero evidence. Past this point, you're just going to get my standard reply to idiocy.

Quote:


Seems we can make Christians make and sell gay wedding cakes and take gay wedding photos ...



You have a cite for that?



Still no reply by you on this matter, 1kiki.

Why ? I wonder.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:42 PM

STORYMARK


You would know, since you bail from threads all the time when asked direct questions.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 7:56 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You still did not answer, regardless of how I butchered the question.

That law & laws just like it are being worked on with God's own fervour. You can be sure many places will pass one, not Federally though (I hope). I'm not gonna bother with links to Republicans stating why these laws should be enacted 'cause you'll just dismiss them for whatever reason.

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:18 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You still did not answer, regardless of how I butchered the question.

That law & laws just like it are being worked on with God's own fervour. You can be sure many places will pass one, not Federally though (I hope). I'm not gonna bother with links to Republicans stating why these laws should be enacted 'cause you'll just dismiss them for whatever reason.



Primarily because I'm not a Republican, for starters. Is that a good enough reason ?

I fully agree that the life which comes from the case of rape is indeed innocent. But rape or not, I feel that a woman ( or teenage girl, for that matter ) who gets pregnant has every right to end a pregnancy she doesn't want, provided it's with in the first trimester. No questions asked.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:32 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
You would know, since you bail from threads all the time when asked direct questions.



Your hard on for me has lasted well longer than 4 hours, Storybook. It has to be more like 4 YEARS.


Dude, go see a doctor.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 9:17 PM

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I fully agree that the life which comes from the case of rape is indeed innocent.

Innocent, but it may be a life which would inherit whatever gene the psycho rapist father possessed that allowed him to be what he was. Better to let that soul go to fill a cleaner embryo.

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:15 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Cleaner ? Get down with your eugenic self!

Purge that evil seed right out of the gene pool, huh?

Well said, Arbiterisall.


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:23 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Get down with your eugenic self!

"We offered the world ORDER!!"

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:26 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



A lot of these responses are almost correct, and some are outright wrong. Businesses can refuse service for almost any reason (or no reason) with exceptions. Those exceptions at the federal level are race, religion, gender, national origin, and disability/perceived disability (refusing service based on sexual preference does not violate any federal law). Some states have laws covering all these categories plus sexual preference, and some also include transgendered persons and transsexuals.
News Flash: It’s Already Legal to Deny Service to Gays in Arizona
Arizona’s laws already give businesses the right to discriminate against gays. Sexual orientation is not included in Arizona’s public accommodation laws. Discrimination against gays is actually legal in a lot of places in America still.
Quote:

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Colorado's Masterpiece Cakeshop At Center Of Gay Rights Battle

LAKEWOOD, Colo. (AP) — The encounter at Jack Phillips' Masterpiece Cakeshop lasted less than a minute.

Phillips stepped out from behind the counter in his small, pastry-crammed shop to meet customers Charlie Craig and Dave Mullins. They told him they wanted a cake to celebrate their own marriage.

Phillips replied he couldn't, but that he'd be glad to make one for other occasions, such as birthdays. Left unsaid was how making a gay wedding cake would violate his Christian faith, how he does not make ones for Halloween or bachelor parties, either.





To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. - Thomas Paine The American Crisis
OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:20 AM

AURAPTOR

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You asked for me to back up my claim, and I did.

Nothing in your post dismisses or in any way debunks the point I made.

So immature or insecure are you, that you simply cannot simply admit you were wrong, and I am right.

You've instead chosen to go off on some tangent, which wasn't even part of the discussion.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:43 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nothing debunks
So immature or insecure
you were wrong, and I am right.

Get this boy a bib.
He needs his Mama.

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:16 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Wow! Who needs that room now? Actually an entire wing in the psych ward seems more appropriate for you two.

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:25 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nothing debunks
So immature or insecure
you were wrong, and I am right.

Get this boy a bib.
He needs his Mama.



Why ? Because I'm right & kuku won't simply admit it?

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:42 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Why ? Because I'm right

No, because you're rarely right & whine like a baby to no end about it.
Is it the diaper rash-?

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:02 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


No. I don't have any rash, you poopy face.

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:08 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
No. It's not a diaper rash, you poopy face.

Yes it is. I've proved it! I'm right & your wrong. Keep deluding yourself. I state facts. And you've debunked nothing.
Try Desitin.

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:21 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Nuh uh! You're diaper rash. You try Desitin.

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:25 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nuh uh! You're diaper rash. You try Desitin.

Do you have any idea how FOOLISH you look here????
(I'm not lookin' too good my own self...)

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:52 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nuh uh! You're diaper rash. You try Desitin.

Do you have any idea how FOOLISH you look here????
(I'm not lookin' too good my own self...)



I doubt he is capable of understanding, at this point.

Its these amazingly bone headed stands he takes that makes it impossible to take ANYTHING he says seriously, even on the (extremely) rare occasion that he actually has a decent point.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 12:00 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Its these amazingly bone headed stands he takes that makes it impossible to take ANYTHING he says seriously, even on the (extremely) rare occasion that he actually has a decent point.

I can see it now, at the bottom:

"he actually has a decent point."- Storymark 2014

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 12:11 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Its these amazingly bone headed stands he takes that makes it impossible to take ANYTHING he says seriously, even on the (extremely) rare occasion that he actually has a decent point.

I can see it now, at the bottom:

"he actually has a decent point."- Storymark 2014



Oooh, that'd be amusing.

A constant illustration of his dishonesty.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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