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U.S. spies on it's own allies.

POSTED BY: OLDENGLANDDRY
UPDATED: Monday, October 28, 2013 16:08
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Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:18 PM

OLDENGLANDDRY

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Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:57 PM

BYTEMITE


Not too surprising. Wikileaks suggested something like this a couple years back.

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Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:18 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Huh. Most transparent administration ever ?



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:11 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Oh, come on. Pres. Obama promised we're not spying on Angela Merkel's cell phone. He wouldn't lie. Right?


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Friday, October 25, 2013 2:17 AM

OONJERAH



I want them to spy on my phone.
It'd be a 100% waste of their time.

... Do I have to send them my number?


======================
A spy's gotta know who to listen to.

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Friday, October 25, 2013 2:05 PM

OLDENGLANDDRY


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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
Yep, you'r everyones "big brother".

http://home.bt.com/news/uknews/world-leaders-calls-monitored-113638439
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From your own press:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24009342

High Five our British Big Brother!

"German news weekly Der Spiegel says documents suggest the NSA and the British GCHQ made joint efforts to gather intelligence.

Teams looked at each phone to crack its privacy codes, Der Spiegel said.

Saturday saw thousands of demonstrators in Berlin demand that the NSA stop monitoring internet users."

Britishism: Step it up man, glass houses, aye 'wot?

Americanism: Yanno, you are a bit of a dill weed, do better.






You're absolutely right, our "Government" is disgustingly complicit, but it's only a matter of time before the revelations that you're "Government" has been spying on us too break surface.

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Sunday, October 27, 2013 3:46 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY

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Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:46 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY


I bet there are other British politicians who are though;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24668861

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Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:16 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


How old are we all here? Doesn't everyone accept that every government (which has the funds, infrastructure and size) spies on every other government, and has since there were "government spies" to do it? What makes anyone here think any of them DON'T? Yeah, it's good press when it gets discovered.
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European spies have been spying on the U.S. for years, according to two former intelligence officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to discuss espionage programs. They said such spying includes tracking senior U.S. officials to see what they are doing in countries like France and Germany, which have both complained bitterly about the EU reports.

But European spying efforts haven’t been exposed the way American exploits have recently with the explosive release of secret documents by Snowden, the former U.S. intelligence systems analyst.

“The intelligence services in France and Germany and across Europe are guffawing into their respective national drinks today, at the ‘shock’ that international meetings are a target for U.S. spies,” said former intelligence official Joel Brenner, who served in senior roles at the Director of National Intelligence and other agencies. “And if anyone thinks the Europeans don’t do it too, they’re nuts,” he added.

Nor is France innocent when it comes to espionage and spying on Americans, said former CIA officer Bob Baer, who was stationed in Paris for three years. “The French intelligence service used to break in regularly when I was in Paris into rooms of U.S. businessmen to image their computers,” he said.

Israel and the U.S., two ardent allies, also have a long history of mistrust. The CIA considers Israel its No. 1 counterintelligence threat in the agency’s Near East Division, the group that oversees spying across the Middle East, according to current and former U.S. intelligence officials. Counterintelligence is the art of protecting national secrets from spies. This means the CIA believes that U.S. national secrets are safer from other Middle Eastern governments than from Israel.

Russia and the U.S. have a storied history of spying on each other, immortalized in print, film and cartoon, and sometimes still veering into the ridiculous.



I mean, let's get real. Doesn't mean I condone it, just means I recognize reality. I can't believe any of you are any less naïve.


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Monday, October 28, 2013 3:14 PM

OLDENGLANDDRY

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Monday, October 28, 2013 4:08 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2: I can't believe any of you are any less naïve.




I guess you're speaking to the Euro heads of state ? Because they're the ones who are really pissed.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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