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Just Another Day

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Wednesday, September 11, 2013 6:44 PM

DEVERSE

Hey, Ive been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire. Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity.


Well, another September 11 almost gone.

I always wonder what my friend John would think of the general silliness today?

Hotels using the day to remind people to "Never Forget" to rent rooms.
Golf Courses offering 9 holes of golf for $9.11.
Bikers in D.C. protesting Muslims.
Boston Airport Emergency Services holding a disaster exercise today (of all days).
AT&T selling phones and phone service by demonstrating their superior cell service by showing the World Trade Center memorial on an AT&T smart phone with “Never Forget."
The Los Angeles Lakers tweeting a photo of Kobe Bryant with the hashtag NeverForget (WTF was that all about?).
Complimentary coffee and muffins at the Marriott in remembrance.
Esquire magazine’s photo of a victim falling from the World Trade Center building on its website with: “Making Your Morning Commute More Stylish. Look good on your way to work.” as a caption.
Or how about Natasha's Equine Clipping Spa, who posted a tribute on Facebook of the World Trade Center towers, shaved into a horse's rear end.
And of course the “false flag” and other conspiracy nutbars with their sensitive posts and comments.

I can hear him saying, “Buncha dumbf**ks” in that Jersey accent even now.

Or would he just appreciate the single carnation I get each year and have it sit on the kitchen table in the station and how we sit around and talk shop like he was here?

Almost 5 pm and it’s been a really slow day (thank you to the fates or whomever oversees such things) but too much time for reflection and memories.
I think I’ll just go home and have a tall scotch and a Cuban cigar out on the deck just like when John was here.

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Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:32 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Good on you for honouring your friend.

When is 'remembering' no longer a good idea? When do you get to treat it as just another day, with maybe a pause, maybe not? Or is 9/11 to be acknowledged forever more?

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Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:14 AM

WISHIMAY


September is a notoriously slow media month...so until something worse comes along, yeah...They probably will...


They still ask "Where were you when Kennedy was shot?"

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Friday, September 27, 2013 7:35 PM

OONJERAH


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
September is a notoriously slow media month...so until something worse comes along, yeah...They probably will...

They still ask "Where were you when Kennedy was shot?"




Kennedy: I was in the car about to leave home to shop. The radio was on.
Usually, I don't have the radio on.

On this day, I wasn't born yet. But I sure heard a lot about it growing up.

“A Date Which Will Live in Infamy”: FDR Asks for a Declaration of War

The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, on December 7, 1941, stunned
virtually everyone in the United States military. Japan’s carrier-launched
bombers found Pearl Harbor totally unprepared.

From History Matters, http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5166/

Trust me: History Matters. I doubt that history is even taught in public
schools anymore. They tried to dumb us down, and it worked.



======================== :>
“Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.” ~Edmund Burke

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Friday, September 27, 2013 8:13 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Hey Deverse, how has your September been?

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Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:42 AM

DEVERSE

Hey, Ive been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire. Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity.


I don't have a problem with people remembering. I don't have a problem with people taking a pause and recalling where they were and how they felt, or even with the day being remembered each year in perpetuity.
However, no day set aside is honored, they all become and are treated as an excuse for a sale, to advertise something, to twist and corrupt into something other than what the day should be.

Memorial Day, Veterans Day, even Martin Luther King Day.... just another day to have a big sale or to do something stupid to gain attention.

Ever been to England or France on November 11? I have. I recall 1977 I was in Paris, on shore leave, walking up the Champs-Élysées towards the tomb of the unknown soldier. At 11 am the church bells started ringing and that city stopped. Cars, buses and taxis stopped where they were and the people got out and men removed their hats, pedestrians stopped, and for a minute the city was so quiet I could hear my own heart beating.
I do understand Holland though, May 4th is a day both solemn and dignified and the 2 minutes at 8pm is as quiet as one could want, even in the middle of Amsterdam. May 5th though, that is a celebration as that is the day Holland was liberated (I feel hung over still just thinking about that party).

Remembrance days aren't a holiday or celebration or a just a day off for a long weekend to go do something fun or to increase sales.... except in North America. And the remembering isn't about those who survived, its about those who didn't.

Really, here in North America, any day set aside to honor anyone or anything is just another day.




Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been

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Saturday, September 28, 2013 12:01 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


DEVERSE. the drive to commercialization is everywhere. When I was young we went to Christmas mass at midnight. I remember walking through snow that was so cold it squeeked, looking at the trail of my breath in the air, the moon riding high above the bare tree branches, the church, the incense, the Polish christmas carols. The wonder of seeing the Xmas tree for the first time (mom and dad put it up while we were alseep) all softly lit. Now it's just one mall after another filled to the brim with crap from China, starting before Thanksgiving. And Halloween starts right after Labor Day, I swear!

Doesn't matter the holiday or the remembrance, EVERY day is an excuse to SELL SELL SELL.

Keep the peace in your heart. If no one pauses or sits still near you, know that I will be pausing and remembering too, even if I'm far away.

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Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:40 PM

DEVERSE

Hey, Ive been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire. Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity.


I'm not angry or upset or anything - maybe just tired and disappointed somewhat.
There used to be a "meaning" held to times and events and occasions and even things, that no longer seem to be of any importance to anyone, anywhere any more.

I suppose my biggest problem is trying to decide if I am just becoming another grumpy old man or if the world actually is in a state of decline.

Grumpy I can fix. Not so sure about the other.


Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been

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Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:10 PM

WISHIMAY


I've been contemplating similar things today... Mainly, exactly how many people have been slaughtered in the last hundred years or so. With the idea of negating testosterone probably non-negotiable, I think the only thing that would even slow that down this century is the thing yer typing on.

We're more interconnected than we were in the last hundred years... We can know instantly when some prig starts a genocide, and can act if we choose (Assad being not-withstanding, but GOD would I love to push the button on that one myself...but it would get us nowhere in the end.) and at least condemn where the general population wouldn't even have known for possibly months. It's something... at least...

I think we care less now though because we have less time to contemplate caring, ALSO because of the thing yer typing on... More focused on the tiny pettiness of our relationships than the power we could potentially have. Adrift in a sea of information and me without a directional processor

It really is bizarre. Connecting more means more to care about, but less time to do it in... In the end will anything have been accomplished???

I dunno...

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Monday, September 30, 2013 11:30 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


World is in decline, I think. But I'm getting grumpier too.

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 6:43 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"We can know instantly when some prig starts a genocide ..."

We can? When we bomb a bunch of innocent people do we understand that to be genocide? How many decades did it take for South Sudan to be understood as genocide? When two nearly equal factions fight in a war, is it genocide or civil war?

With all the media control and spin, I'm not sure we can know a whole lot at all, and a lot of what's happening takes decades to even get on our horizon (if ever).

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 6:50 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"World is in decline, I think."

I'd have to agree. I was thinking about the physical state of the world the other day - from my date of birth to now. Aside from the Montreal Protocol, I can't think of any major decline that's been effectively reversed. More pollution (chemical, biological, radiological), more people, fewer resources, fewer species. And there's a lot of inertia that will keep it moving it all in the same direction.

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