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T-Rex Was a Vegetarian, says Creationist

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:05 AM

NIKI2

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Creationists are now claiming that not only did the king of dinosaurs, Tyrannosaurus rex exist but are insisting that it was a vegetarian.

Paul Taylor of Creation Today has put forward the wizzo theory on the site “Creation Today” that T-Rex was a vegan until humanity “sinned against God.”

For a long time, some Creationists have insisted that the dinosaur bones were put in the earth by God to test people’s faith. The idea that their God liked messing with their minds was preferable to the concept of giant lizards. Others claimed that since the bible mentioned that giants had been wiped out by the Great Flood, that these were certainly dinosaurs.

Taylor has gone one stage further and actually placed dinosaurs in the Garden of Eden, which was not actually in the version of the story we read as kids we seem to remember that there were more mammals.

Anyway, having watched Jurassic Park and worked out that humans are not going to come off very well if Tyrannosaurus rex was in Eden, Taylor has had to adapt his theory a bit.

He insists that the huge dinosaur was a herbivore, despite its predatory tendencies.

God did not create theropod dinosaurs to eat meat, and gave some of them sharp teeth so that they would be able to do so, Taylor said.

However after Adam and Eve ate that apple, the Tyrannosaurus rex discovered that it could use the teeth to eat people and other dinosaurs.

Just because animals have large sharp teeth doesn’t mean they are meat-eaters, he explained.

You mean that they evolved to eat meat? Surely not Mr Taylor. Anyway Taylor and his ilk want these stunning scientific discoveries he is making taught to children in schools as alternatives to evolution. http://www.sodthe.net/t-rex-was-a-vegetarian-claims-creationist/]


Per Taylor:
Quote:

"One thing is for sure: the theropod dinosaurs were not created to eat meat. God created all creatures to eat plants, and he gave some of them sharp teeth so that they would be able to do so. Some of those particular mechanisms of different sorts, including teeth, may have changed after Adam’s sin so that such creatures could eat meat.”


Bullshit, of course: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/07/130715-tyrannosaurus-r
ex-predator-duckbill-dinosaurs-paleontology-science
/

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:17 AM

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This is not news.

Such nonsense has been common place in YEC lunacy.

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:19 AM

STORYMARK


Yeah, this is a dog-bites-man story. A creationist believes something silly - say it aint so!




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Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:40 AM

NIKI2

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Just occurred to me...creationists are right wing, and there are MANY creationists, so just like "The Left" thinks Obama is a god (or IS God), then The Right all believe God created the earth in seven days, dinosaurs lived alongside humans, and evolution is a myth, yes?

"58% of Republicans Are Young Earth Creationists", http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/40435_Gallup_Poll-_58_of_Repub
licans_Are_Young_Earth_Creationists


Just THINK of all the things we can ascribe to The Right, if we adopt Rap's "logic"....what FUN!!!


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Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:28 AM

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Dunno about the validity of "58%", but yes, there are a lot of Christian conservatives believe some variation that dinosaurs lived w/ Adam and Eve, or were around before the flood, etc...



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Thursday, August 22, 2013 11:01 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Just occurred to me...creationists are right wing, and there are MANY creationists, so just like "The Left" thinks Obama is a god (or IS God), then The Right all believe God created the earth in seven days, dinosaurs lived alongside humans, and evolution is a myth, yes?

"58% of Republicans Are Young Earth Creationists", http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/40435_Gallup_Poll-_58_of_Repub
licans_Are_Young_Earth_Creationists


Just THINK of all the things we can ascribe to The Right, if we adopt Rap's "logic"....what FUN!!!




Now, now... you know how cranky the rightwing faithful get when you apply their own tortured, circular logic to them!

So, keep it up!




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Thursday, August 22, 2013 11:24 AM

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What's funny, is that even as I agreed ( in part ) with Niki's silly logical conclusion, storybook keeps up the mantra that I somehow am 'cranky' on the matter.

It's clear that storybook is merely reacting on a preconceived, predetermined point of view of trying to vilify me, no matter what.

A true sign of a childish mentality.

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 11:43 AM

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Did I mention you?

*checks*

Nope. Learn to read, son.

Then again, you did still try and talk your way out from under Nikki's point. I wonder if you even grasped it?

Here, let's simplify for the idiot: Following the tired "logic" you so often employ, you are a Creationist. Period. By your own reasoning.

Glad we cleared that up for you.



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Thursday, August 22, 2013 11:48 AM

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You were talking about me, with out naming me specifically.

You know it. You're just too much of a coward to admit it.

That you continue to carry on w/ the false narrative and insult me further only proves me right.

And you as being pathetic.


Well done.

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:04 PM

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T.Rex and other predator teeth have been found embedded in the bones of many a plant eating dinosaurs, as well as other T.Rex !

The article stating that NOW Creationists are claiming t-rex was a vegan lizard , is some what misleading. They've been promoting such tripe for a while now.

In spite of their ferocious look, many people would probably argue the T-Rex was a vegetarian. The ferocious teeth would have been great for, you know, crushing stuffed pumpkins or something, you know. I don't know if it has ever been proven they were meat eaters. There is plenty of evidence from cracks in the enamel with chlorophyll stains in them indicating they were certainly eating plants.

- Kent Hovind, Truth Radio 28 September 2006

http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2007/12/wit-and-wisdom-of-dr-dino.html

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:34 PM

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Others claimed that since the bible mentioned that giants had been wiped out by the Great Flood, that these were certainly dinosaurs.


...Urgh. They could at least know their own religion better than someone who's never read the bible before.

But then they haven't read the bible either...

The "GIANTS" were the nephilim, horrific offspring of couplings between human women and fallen angels of the irinim. T'was them who taught us the forbidden sinful arts of war and cosmetics.

The book ACTUALLY FRIGGIN' EXPLAINS THIS.

READ! If not for better understanding of that worship stuff and self-fulfillment then for my OWN SANITY!

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:37 PM

BYTEMITE


The flood may actually have happened though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_flood


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Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:57 PM

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Yes, Brenda, you got it. Not only to save wear and tear on your fingers, but just THINKING about this kind of idiocy isn't good for the soul... ;o)

So I guess Rap is agreeing, since he said he agreed with my post, that if one can find a few examples of someone on The Right saying outlandish things, we can then apply them, just as he did with "The Left Thinks Obama Is A God", to The Right.

Got it. I'm-a gonna have SUCH FUN!!!


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Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:01 PM

NIKI2

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Uh, oh. Looks like God might have been listening:

Act of God or Science? "Creationist museum employee struck by lightning", http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2399660/Creation-museum-employ
ee-struck-lightning-heavens-opened-Bible-themed-attraction.html


Apparently he'll recover. I'm glad; nobody deserves that, no matter how ignorant and misguided. But I wonder what Robertson, etc., will make of it?


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Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:02 PM

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Niki - what's funny is that you think you have ME over the barrel, when in fact, you're every bit in the same predicament.

Not sure that's sinking into your noggin yet.



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Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:02 PM

BYTEMITE


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So I guess Rap is agreeing, since he said he agreed with my post, that if one can find a few examples of someone on The Right saying outlandish things, we can then apply them, just as he did with "The Left Thinks Obama Is A God", to The Right.


*Sigh* I'll break out the gear for the massive post retaliation we can expect from this.

Guy agrees YEC are dumb and it has to be a point in the political game around here.


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Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
The flood may actually have happened though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_flood




Gotta think lots of floods have happened.

The Lake Bonneville Flood

Lake Bonneville was the precursor of the Great Salt Lake. The shorelines of this ancient lake can be seen on the higher slopes of the Wasatch Mountains, more than 984 feet above the present level of the Great Salt Lake. Before the catastrophic Bonneville flood, Lake Bonneville covered an area of more than 19,691 square miles.

Approximately 15,000 years ago Lake Bonneville, a late Pleistocene lake, suddenly discharged an immense volume of water to the north. This flood is thought to be caused by capture of the Bear River which greatly increased the supply of water to the Bonneville Basin. These flood waters flowed over Red Rock Pass in southeastern Idaho and continued westward across the Snake River Plain generally following the path of the present Snake River. Although this enormous flood was first described in the literature by Gilbert in 1878, Harold Malde (1968) of the U.S. Geological Survey published the first detailed account of the effects of the flood on the Snake River Plain. The name "Bonneville Flood" first appeared in the literature in 1965 (Richmond and others, 1965).

Large rounded boulders of basalt characterize many deposits left by the flood along the Snake River Plain. H. A. Powers, who recognized that these boulders were of catastrophic origin, and Malde applied the name of Melon Gravel to the boulder deposits (Malde and Powers, 1962). They were inspired to use this term after observing a road sign in 1955 that called the boulders "petrified watermelons."

http://imnh.isu.edu/digitalatlas/hydr/lkbflood/lbf.htm

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:07 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Uh, oh. Looks like God might have been listening:

Act of God or Science? "Creationist museum employee struck by lightning", http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2399660/Creation-museum-employ
ee-struck-lightning-heavens-opened-Bible-themed-attraction.html


Apparently he'll recover. I'm glad; nobody deserves that, no matter how ignorant and misguided. But I wonder what Robertson, etc., will make of it?




No no, that's not how it works. God only hits BAD people with lightning. SATAN hits good people with lightning, God SAVES them from dying. So now he knows that God is on his side and he's really pissed off Satan.

/logic

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:14 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
The flood may actually have happened though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_flood




Gotta think lots of floods have happened.

The Lake Bonneville Flood

Lake Bonneville was the precursor of the Great Salt Lake. The shorelines of this ancient lake can be seen on the higher slopes of the Wasatch Mountains, more than 984 feet above the present level of the Great Salt Lake. Before the catastrophic Bonneville flood, Lake Bonneville covered an area of more than 19,691 square miles.

Approximately 15,000 years ago Lake Bonneville, a late Pleistocene lake, suddenly discharged an immense volume of water to the north. This flood is thought to be caused by capture of the Bear River which greatly increased the supply of water to the Bonneville Basin. These flood waters flowed over Red Rock Pass in southeastern Idaho and continued westward across the Snake River Plain generally following the path of the present Snake River. Although this enormous flood was first described in the literature by Gilbert in 1878, Harold Malde (1968) of the U.S. Geological Survey published the first detailed account of the effects of the flood on the Snake River Plain. The name "Bonneville Flood" first appeared in the literature in 1965 (Richmond and others, 1965).

Large rounded boulders of basalt characterize many deposits left by the flood along the Snake River Plain. H. A. Powers, who recognized that these boulders were of catastrophic origin, and Malde applied the name of Melon Gravel to the boulder deposits (Malde and Powers, 1962). They were inspired to use this term after observing a road sign in 1955 that called the boulders "petrified watermelons."

http://imnh.isu.edu/digitalatlas/hydr/lkbflood/lbf.htm




I meant candidates for the biblical flood. Bonneville is not a candidate... Unless you believe like the Mormons that the Native Americans are a lost tribe of Israel.

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:23 PM

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Well, point being, whether it's a 'local' event, or a regional one, they probably all look the same to anyone living down river or in the low lands when one of these things hits.

I seem to recall the Mediterranean flooding too. Though that may have been a few million years ago, not 10's or 100's of thousands of years.

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:36 PM

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"No no, that's not how it works. God only hits BAD people with lightning. SATAN hits good people with lightning, God SAVES them from dying. So now he knows that God is on his side and he's really pissed off Satan. "

Hee, hee, hee; good one, Byte. "Now I understand". ;o)

"*Sigh* I'll break out the gear for the massive post retaliation we can expect from this. " No Byte, I'm not Rap, I may get a giggle out of the idea that he's now left himself wide open to getting what he so freely gives, but I have no actual desire to sink to that level. He has to play with himself on that one, tho' I'll no doubt remind him next time he plays it. The idiocy of posting a couple of instances of people making stupid statements or a child praying for Obama as "evidence" that The Left considers Obama a "god" is a pool of muck Rap has to stand in all by himself, unless any of his buddies want to join him.

It has nothing to do, by the way, with him agreeing with anything. The concept is that, by Rap's "reasoning", anyone who can show a couple of instances of anyone on "the right" saying stupid stuff would be right to claim that The Right believes it. It makes no sense, pure and simple, but he keeps right on doing it, and it's irritating, which is his intent, also pure and simple.


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Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:37 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Well, point being, whether it's a 'local' event, or a regional one, they probably all look the same to anyone living down river or in the low lands when one of these things hits.

I seem to recall the Mediterranean flooding too. Though that may have been a few million years ago, not 10's or 100's of thousands of years.



Yes it does. :) And it was 5 million years ago.

xkcd recently did a long form comic about it. Like I think almost four months of new comic panels posted once every hour. Pretty cool.


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Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:38 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

No Byte, I'm not Rap, I may get a giggle out of the idea that he's now left himself wide open to getting what he so freely gives, but I have no actual desire to sink to that level.


Whew.

Sorry I doubted you.

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:43 PM

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Niki - not possible for you to 'sink' to my level. You're going in the wrong direction.

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
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No no, that's not how it works. God only hits BAD people with lightning. SATAN hits good people with lightning, God SAVES them from dying. So now he knows that God is on his side and he's really pissed off Satan.

/logic



I thought we settled this during the Oklahoma tornado alley disasters-- God was punishing the USA for sinfulness and homosexuality, but he was shooting at NYC and Hollywood, and he missed, hit OK instead. God is a terrible shot.

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:52 PM

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I always pictured that aspect of "God" as a drunken angry redneck with a shotgun blasting into the darkness from his porch, no surprise he'd be a terrible shot.

-F

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Friday, August 23, 2013 12:36 AM

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Hey, at least the concept of continental drift was being taught! Wasn't too long ago, 50 or 60 years, that the mere concept alone was mocked at by "top " scientists.

Has nothing to do w/ why folks are spread out, of course, but still... take the small victories where you can find 'em.

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Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Hey, at least the concept of continental drift was being taught! Wasn't too long ago, 50 or 60 years, that the mere concept alone was mocked at by "top " scientists.

Has nothing to do w/ why folks are spread out, of course, but still... take the small victories where you can find 'em.





I guess so AU. But still just the notion that the mother was using continental drift to explain why people are the colours they are and where they are. It just made me shudder.



But still, it is an interesting topic, as to how humans became so diverse, at least in appearance. We know from Darwin that isolated groups tend to evolve on their own particular paths. Mountains and oceans do a fair job in keeping folks isolated from one another, or did, for 1000's of years.

And aren't humans, genetically, actually LESS diverse than chimps, form one another ? I seem to recall hearing / reading that somewhere.

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Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:35 AM

BYTEMITE


Yep. Any two people on earth are more similar than two chimpanzees from the same family.

All the surface differences are merely surface deep.

It's believed this is due to a genetic bottleneck that took place around 70,000 years ago, or maybe another one 100,000 years ago.

As such, it is most likely that any differences in ability arises from differences in environment, than from genetic factors.

There have been studies about twins that would seem to counter this in terms of behaviour after they have been separated, but there's arguments posed against this in the field of epigenetics, and studies or circumstances may have been biased towards similar environments as well. Adoption agencies tend to have certain standards that would probably limit differences in environment.

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Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:27 PM

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Well, as we 'drift' away from the original topic, the human genetic bottle neck mystery intrigues me.

I was watching some show on the disappearance of Clovis culture. Though far more recent in history, there were still a lot of fascinating facts brought up, from the similarity of Clovis technology to that found in Europe ( not Asia ) and some curious geological evidence.

Every time I take a peek at the deep history of what's taken place on this planet, it really makes me realize how much we don't know.

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Saturday, August 24, 2013 1:50 PM

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There is some interesting stuff written on human migration and timelines as best we can work out. And while the timelines may be still under dispute, the routes are pretty accurate based on tracking dna.

I know that climate change had a big impact on the first people of Australia, as they were able to access areas and then basically cut off when land bridges submerged.

Tasmanians were one of the most isolated people on earth for roughly 8000 years they were isolated from any other people.

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Saturday, August 24, 2013 1:50 PM

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There is some interesting stuff written on human migration and timelines as best we can work out. And while the timelines may be still under dispute, the routes are pretty accurate based on tracking dna.

I know that climate change had a big impact on the first people of Australia, as they were able to access areas and then basically cut off when land bridges submerged.

Tasmanians were one of the most isolated people on earth for roughly 8000 years they were isolated from any other people.

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Saturday, August 24, 2013 1:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

Tasmanians were one of the most isolated people on earth for roughly 8000 years they were isolated from any other people.



Then why didn't they grow wings, or horns, or tails, like Darwin predicted they would ?

( sorry, just channeling my random idiot Creationist. hee hee )

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Monday, May 12, 2014 4:54 PM

HAPPYLADA



Per Taylor:
Quote:

"One thing is for sure: the theropod dinosaurs were not created to eat meat. God created all creatures to eat plants, and he gave some of them sharp teeth so that they would be able to do so. Some of those particular mechanisms of different sorts, including teeth, may have changed after Adam’s sin so that such creatures could eat meat.”


Bullshit, of course: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/07/130715-tyrannosaurus-r
ex-predator-duckbill-dinosaurs-paleontology-science/



My! what arrogance. Even poster boy paleontologist Horner disagrees with you, and this fossil was in his back yard, so to speak. Did you ever read the article before citing it, or , like most, just posted a convenient heading. So get with the program - this fossil does NOTHING to prove your point. The problem with this unfounded arrogance is that you use your mythology to explain the evidence, rather then the scientific way of limiting what you are sure of to the evidence. And this link to Nat Geo simply proved that there was a tooth in a tail. The same Nat Geo, by the way that has run a number of frauds as real discoveries - not at all uncommon in the evolutionary world of science - such as the Acheoraptor story, which was a complete fabrication. From the EVIDENCE we know there was contact - between a T Rex and a hadrosaurus. THAT is all we know. Were they in a fight? Was the Hadrosaurus carrion as Horner suggests? We do0 NOT know, and your suggestion this PROVES anything is totally false.

The evolutionary myth makes far too many assumptions - sharp teeth are NOT a sign of a carnivore. Fruit bats and Giant Pandas are NOT carnivores nor are camels, BUT your myth classifies them as such, based on their teeth. This is an erroneous conclusion based on the evolutionary myth.

I have personally photographed T. Rex teeth. Using simple engineering, their teeth would NOT be useful as a carnivore - the ratio of teeth to root is far to small to allow the force needed for T Rex to actually attack another animal that could fight back. YOU are not a carnivore, but your tooth to root ration is about 1:1. The T Rex tooth has a tooth to root ration os about 5:1, making it perilously easy for the tooth to be pulled in battle. And a toothless T Rex is NO predator.

The T Rex teeth look much more like the tines on a mower designed to cut up huge amounts of long grass than deadly fighting tools.

And funny you should forget to mention that these bones from the Montana fields have red blood products, flexible blood vessels and tendons, and discernible DNA. After 64 million years? Now THAT'S scientific! Anything to keep the myth alive! Oh, yes - C14 as well. Did you Really MEAN 64,000,000 YEARS? I didn't think so!

OH, and one more thing - The ONLY people I have ever heard say that God put dinosaurs on earth to test people were evolutionists. As a former evolutionist, I have NEVER met a Creationist who ever said that. Just another strawman argument by the arrogant evolutionists. Does ANYONE believe that? Probably - there is still a flat earth society in America - all evolutionists by the way - but no one with any common sense, understanding of the scriptures (where there are reasonable descriptions of dinosaurs) or basic knowledge of science. And with maybe 100,000 tenured Creationist professors, your comment is certainly the outlier, if it has any truth at all.

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Monday, May 12, 2014 5:16 PM

REAVERFAN

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Monday, May 12, 2014 5:33 PM

AURAPTOR

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Not sure whose sock puppet Happy here is,but I am not amused.

Member since ... today ? Precious.

T.Rex teeth... tines on a mower ? That's rich. You claim to have photographed t.rex teeth.. really? From which specimen ? I happen to know a few. Maybe it's one I've seen before.

And I happen to actually HAVE a tooth, my own self. ( albeit a replica. Museum quality, mind you )

And your math isn't just wrong, it's stupid wrong. 5:1 ? More like 1:1 easy.

Again, not sure what the point of this sock puppet act is, but please, be a stranger.

ETA -

Quote:

I have personally photographed T. Rex teeth. Using simple engineering, their teeth would NOT be useful as a carnivore - the ratio of teeth to root is far to small to allow the force needed for T Rex to actually attack another animal that could fight back. YOU are not a carnivore, but your tooth to root ration is about 1:1. The T Rex tooth has a tooth to root ration os about 5:1, making it perilously easy for the tooth to be pulled in battle. And a toothless T Rex is NO predator.


Well, here's MY pic. Where's yours ?



This belonged to 'Stan', whom I had the pleasure of meeting, in person, when I visited. S. Dakota. Not the best pic, but it gives a clear shot of just how ridiculous Happster's claim of 5:1 ( tooth to root ) actually is. The root is actually a bit longer than business end of the tooth. You can even see on the tooth the gum line impression.

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Monday, May 12, 2014 6:28 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, what dark rock did THAT whacko crawl out from under? Wild...we have an honest-go-gawd, live "creationist" among us, folks. I guess, or it's somebody's idea of a really boring joke. ...wow...

And how the hell did they go all the way back to LAST FALL to find this little gem? Wandering the internet for some specific purpose, I wonder?

Do we care?


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Monday, May 12, 2014 6:36 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:


Do we care?



Probably shouldn't. But I've noticed a fair amount of aged threads being dug up and hoisted to the top of the page in the past week or so.

Not sure what that's all about either.

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Monday, May 12, 2014 7:17 PM

OONJERAH


^^

If there is something I want to talk about today, and I recall seeing an
old thread on that topic, I will go looking for the old thread and bump
it rather than start a new one.

Usually, I'm unable to find the old thread I'm looking for from the Blue
Sun room search.

"58% of Republicans Are Young Earth Creationists" When I skimmed thru
here, I first read that as "58% of Americans Are Young Earth Creationists"
... I thought, "Oooooooh! We're in way more trouble than I thought."

I'm going to blame some of our current idiocy on high fructose corn syrup
and other GMO foods. Mostly, we are intentionally misled says my instinc-
tive conspiracy theory.



... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

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Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:40 AM

OONJERAH



Not as big as Godzilla, but pretty big.


THE largest dinosaur ever found, thought to have weighed as much as
14 elephants, has been unearthed in Argentina, say scientists.

The "titanosaur" is estimated to have weighed 76 tons and would have
been about 40m long and 20m tall — roughly equal to a seven-storey
building when its neck was in the air.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/titanosaur-was-seven-storey
s-tall-scientists-say-of-argentinian-dinosaur-find/story-fnb64oi6-1226921664076
#



... oooOO}{OOooo ...

It was a one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater.

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Sunday, May 18, 2014 4:26 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by happylada:

Per Taylor:
Quote:

"One thing is for sure: the theropod dinosaurs were not created to eat meat. God created all creatures to eat plants, and he gave some of them sharp teeth so that they would be able to do so. Some of those particular mechanisms of different sorts, including teeth, may have changed after Adam’s sin so that such creatures could eat meat.”


Bullshit, of course: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/07/130715-tyrannosaurus-r
ex-predator-duckbill-dinosaurs-paleontology-science/



My! what arrogance. Even poster boy paleontologist Horner disagrees with you, and this fossil was in his back yard, so to speak. Did you ever read the article before citing it, or , like most, just posted a convenient heading. So get with the program - this fossil does NOTHING to prove your point. The problem with this unfounded arrogance is that you use your mythology to explain the evidence, rather then the scientific way of limiting what you are sure of to the evidence. And this link to Nat Geo simply proved that there was a tooth in a tail. The same Nat Geo, by the way that has run a number of frauds as real discoveries - not at all uncommon in the evolutionary world of science - such as the Acheoraptor story, which was a complete fabrication. From the EVIDENCE we know there was contact - between a T Rex and a hadrosaurus. THAT is all we know. Were they in a fight? Was the Hadrosaurus carrion as Horner suggests? We do0 NOT know, and your suggestion this PROVES anything is totally false.

The evolutionary myth makes far too many assumptions - sharp teeth are NOT a sign of a carnivore. Fruit bats and Giant Pandas are NOT carnivores nor are camels, BUT your myth classifies them as such, based on their teeth. This is an erroneous conclusion based on the evolutionary myth.

I have personally photographed T. Rex teeth. Using simple engineering, their teeth would NOT be useful as a carnivore - the ratio of teeth to root is far to small to allow the force needed for T Rex to actually attack another animal that could fight back. YOU are not a carnivore, but your tooth to root ration is about 1:1. The T Rex tooth has a tooth to root ration os about 5:1, making it perilously easy for the tooth to be pulled in battle. And a toothless T Rex is NO predator.

The T Rex teeth look much more like the tines on a mower designed to cut up huge amounts of long grass than deadly fighting tools.

And funny you should forget to mention that these bones from the Montana fields have red blood products, flexible blood vessels and tendons, and discernible DNA. After 64 million years? Now THAT'S scientific! Anything to keep the myth alive! Oh, yes - C14 as well. Did you Really MEAN 64,000,000 YEARS? I didn't think so!

OH, and one more thing - The ONLY people I have ever heard say that God put dinosaurs on earth to test people were evolutionists. As a former evolutionist, I have NEVER met a Creationist who ever said that. Just another strawman argument by the arrogant evolutionists. Does ANYONE believe that? Probably - there is still a flat earth society in America - all evolutionists by the way - but no one with any common sense, understanding of the scriptures (where there are reasonable descriptions of dinosaurs) or basic knowledge of science. And with maybe 100,000 tenured Creationist professors, your comment is certainly the outlier, if it has any truth at all.



Creationist professors. That's funny.

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Thursday, May 22, 2014 7:38 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

Not as big as Godzilla, but pretty big.


THE largest dinosaur ever found, thought to have weighed as much as
14 elephants, has been unearthed in Argentina, say scientists.

The "titanosaur" is estimated to have weighed 76 tons and would have
been about 40m long and 20m tall — roughly equal to a seven-storey
building when its neck was in the air.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/titanosaur-was-seven-storey
s-tall-scientists-say-of-argentinian-dinosaur-find/story-fnb64oi6-1226921664076
#



... oooOO}{OOooo ...

It was a one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater.




Bigger than Argentinosaur ? Yikes. I wonder if they were related. There's a cast of one , here in ATL. It's almost cartoonish in how big it is. T.Rex, Giggy ( Giganotosaurus ) or Spinosaurus, all are dwarfed by these critters.

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