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Armed Customer May Have Shot Restaurant Workers By Mistake

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UPDATED: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 02:30
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Wednesday, July 3, 2013 6:07 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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OAKLAND -- Oakland police are investigating why two men wearing orange construction vests went into a fast-food restaurant near Lake Merritt to order chicken but ended up shooting and killing two employees.

In official statements, police revealed little Tuesday about the killing of Jose Santa Maria, 26, and Kenneth Bradley, 22, both of Richmond, at a small Wingstop restaurant on Monday just before midnight.

Police said robbery was not a motive, without elaborating. However, law enforcement sources suggested a chaotic situation unfolded at 528 Lake Park Ave., just before the business closed for the night.

The sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing, said the men in the orange vests came in to order food but ended up running to the freezer section in the back of the restaurant, possibly because they felt threatened by a third party.

At least one of the customers was armed, the sources said, and shot the two employees when they went to the freezer to see why the customers had gone there.

Sources said detectives were looking into the possibility that the customer who fired mistook the employees for the third party that had scared him.

Santa Maria and Bradley died at the scene. At the time of the incident, police said, other customers were inside the restaurant, which has a small amount of seating and a television. http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Mystery-in-killings-at-Oakland-Win
gstop-4642249.php


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Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:07 AM

OONJERAH


Murder charges in Oakland Wingstop killings
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Murder-charges-in-Oakland-Wingstop
-killings-4648587.php


"A college student who works as a security guard was charged
Friday with two counts of murder for allegedly gunning down
two employees of a restaurant near Oakland's Lake Merritt -
a shooting the suspect's family has called a mistake.

Jamaine Gurley, 21, of Oakland shot and killed Jose Santamaria,
26, and Kenneth Bradley, 22, on Monday night at Wingstop on
Lake Park Avenue, authorities said.

Alameda County prosecutors also charged Gurley with carrying
a concealed gun and carrying a loaded firearm, both felonies,
and filed weapons enhancements as well. Authorities said Gurley,
a licensed security guard, was not in legal possession of his
gun. ... "


Oonj: Security guard with concealed gun shoots restaurant
employees by mistake, claims self-defense.

Hmmmm ... does that sound vaguely familiar? And weird?

Are we starting to call them Insecurity Guards now?


ETA: I'd remove that last remark if Au hadn't posted it
below. No insult to your profession intended, Frem. I was
a security guard myself for a while over 30 years ago;
our outfit was pretty good.

Oakland & its neighbor Richmond (see Niki below) have
some very rough spots, very bad people.


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Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:14 AM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by Oonjerah:

Oonj: Security guard with concealed gun shoots restaurant
employees by mistakes, claims self-defense.

Hmmmm ... does that sound vaguely familiar? And weird?

Are we starting to call them Insecurity Guards now?




How much you wanna bet that Al and Jessie don't come anywhere near this case ?

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Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:30 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Thanx, Oonj. I hadn't followed that one up, saw nothing in the media (not surprisingly...). From your link:
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After seeing one or two men they believed were about to do them harm, Gurley and his friend ran into a back-room freezer, police said. When Santamaria and Bradley followed to investigate, Gurley opened fire, authorities said.

Gurley had told his friend, "The first person that comes in, we're just going to shoot," said Gurley's mother, 51-year-old Lawana Gurley.

Both victims were wearing uniforms, said Santamaria's girlfriend.

Legal expert Steve Clark said Friday that the unusual circumstances make for a "fascinating case." He said the defense could argue that the case is one of manslaughter under the theory of "imperfect self-defense," in which someone overreacts and attacks a perceived aggressor when in fact the target intends no harm.

"The jury would have to decide whether that's reasonable. Even if you perceived an immediate threat, is it reasonable to use deadly force to quell that?" said Clark, a former Santa Clara County prosecutor who is now a defense attorney.

Relatives said Gurley had no plans that night to kill anyone.

"They came with the intention to eat," said his sister, Kyesha Thompson, 33. "They were getting off work, and unfortunately they picked the wrong spot to eat."



That's why so many of us are arguing for tighter gun restrictions. "Regular folk" aren't always very bright, and fear can cause people to do things that kill other people when they have guns.

Dunno where the place is, but they lived in Richmond, which is our single WORST gun-death city in the Bay Area. Have to drive through there to get to Oakland, never pull off, and we hear about someone dying by guns pretty much daily over there.


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