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Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:00 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Not unusual for threading, but..

The new X-box, titled the Xbox-One (or XBone)has serious issues.

1. It MUST be connected to a high-speed internet, and will upload itself every 24 hours. If not, it shuts down, wipes its memory. Forget taking it overseas, or if your power goes out...

2. Games are non-transferable. Days of bringing over a disc to play at a friends house are over.

This is where is gets terrifying...

3. Its CAMERA and MICROPHONE must ALWAYS be on.


1984 wasn't meant to be a playbook, folks. Under this, or any administration, this is pretty scary stuff.

Discuss.

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Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:48 AM

DEVERSE

Hey, Ive been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire. Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity.


XBone is made by the NSA?

I am beginning to see why certain parties think that the answer to "1984" is "1776".


Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been

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Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:15 AM

BYTEMITE


The internet response to this is both appropriately wary and also hilarious. Most everyone is smart enough to know this is bad news except the die-hard Microsoft fans, and the jokes are legion.

Some of you might appreciate the video posted on Youtube where Microsoft apologizes for the choices they made with the Xbone. You can probably google it. :)

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Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:51 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by WULFENSTAR:
Not unusual for threading, but..

The new X-box, titled the Xbox-One (or XBone)has serious issues.

1. It MUST be connected to a high-speed internet, and will upload itself every 24 hours. If not, it shuts down, wipes its memory. Forget taking it overseas, or if your power goes out...

2. Games are non-transferable. Days of bringing over a disc to play at a friends house are over.

This is where is gets terrifying...

3. Its CAMERA and MICROPHONE must ALWAYS be on.


1984 wasn't meant to be a playbook, folks. Under this, or any administration, this is pretty scary stuff.

Discuss.



Well not buying an Xbox or any other game system that requires an internet connection. You know what would be nice? If these games systems focused on gaming.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:21 AM

BYTEMITE


I found something

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

Think they're still bundling Kinect and the Microphone in there though. No complete escape for Wulfenstar.

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Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:26 AM

BYTEMITE


Side note: could it be this is a rare instance of everyone on Fireflyfans AGREEING about something?

Do we all think DRM is bad?

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Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:19 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Looks like this will be yet another year I don't buy an XBox of any kind.


Not that Sony's all that much better about it, but they're insisting that their new PS4 *will* play used games, *won't* require a persistent internet connection, and doesn't have to have a camera hooked up to it at all times.


"In Soviet Russia, tee-vee watches YOU!"



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:05 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"1984 wasn't meant to be a playbook, folks. Under this, or any administration, this is pretty scary stuff."

Last time I looked, u-soft was a corporation, not the government. I think you need to put the blame for this where it belongs - your 'free enterprise' unfettered-capitalism-for-all business-buddies.

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Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:51 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Looks like this will be yet another year I don't buy an XBox of any kind.


Not that Sony's all that much better about it, but they're insisting that their new PS4 *will* play used games, *won't* require a persistent internet connection, and doesn't have to have a camera hooked up to it at all times.


"In Soviet Russia, tee-vee watches YOU!"




At first I was all like "Sony has completely redeemed themselves!" but then I heard that there probably will be DRM in their games because they left it up to the publishers to decide. Which is basically their policy for the PS3 too.

It's not building the freakin' spyware INTO their system like Microsoft idiocy, but Sony's still not all saintly like it initially sounded.

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Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:53 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
u-soft



...:o

*Thinks that abbreviation is clever*

*Geeks out about science for a while*

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Thursday, June 20, 2013 4:47 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


sounds like Micro-Brain is backing off a little:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/19/tech/gaming-gadgets/xbox-drm/index.html?
hpt=hp_t3


Microsoft backtracks on Xbox One sharing policies

By Larry Frum, Special to CNN
updated 6:49 AM EDT, Thu June 20, 2013 | Filed under: Gaming and Gadgets

Seems they might be backing off on used games, game sharing, and connecting to the Internet, at least a little, but not so much on the eavesdropping, invasion of privacy and plain old spying aspects.

I wonder if you can shut the thing off? My PC, besides being plugged in, runs thru a power center with a manually operated power rocker switch. When I want the bloody thing OFF, it's OFF.

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Thursday, June 20, 2013 4:50 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Seems they might be backing off on used games, game sharing, and connecting to the Internet, at least a little, but not so much on the eavesdropping, invasion of privacy and plain old spying aspects.


Yeah, basically. I posted a link to their X-Box One news updates above, I believe it goes into the details.

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Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:12 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Looks like this will be yet another year I don't buy an XBox of any kind.


Not that Sony's all that much better about it, but they're insisting that their new PS4 *will* play used games, *won't* require a persistent internet connection, and doesn't have to have a camera hooked up to it at all times.


"In Soviet Russia, tee-vee watches YOU!"




At first I was all like "Sony has completely redeemed themselves!" but then I heard that there probably will be DRM in their games because they left it up to the publishers to decide. Which is basically their policy for the PS3 too.

It's not building the freakin' spyware INTO their system like Microsoft idiocy, but Sony's still not all saintly like it initially sounded.




Definitely not all saintly. If I want to play Gran Turismo online, I *MUST* download the latest updates and patches. I'm guessing the PS3 is probably the last console I'll own.

When the XBone and the PS4 were announced, I confess I was a bit surprised, and not really in a good way. My initial reaction was "Why?" Does anyone still need a console or a disk that they physically load? Why isn't gaming streaming like Netflix now, where you pay a low monthly fee and have basically unlimited access to your favorite games?

I'm not really so surprised by WHAT they're doing with the next-gen consoles; I'm more surprised that they're even doing next-gen consoles in the first place!



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:14 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Quote:

Seems they might be backing off on used games, game sharing, and connecting to the Internet, at least a little, but not so much on the eavesdropping, invasion of privacy and plain old spying aspects.


Yeah, basically. I posted a link to their X-Box One news updates above, I believe it goes into the details.




Also, I don't think for a moment that them pulling back means they're giving up on the idea entirely. I expect the same encroachment to come later, incrementally, so the frog doesn't know it's boiling.

And I pretty much expect Sony to do the same. They didn't really "win" this round; they just spun the PR better by letting MicroSquash go out first and shoot themselves in the foot, then stepping in and saying, in effect, "We're going to let you use a smaller gun to shoot yourself!"



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:59 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Also, I don't think for a moment that them pulling back means they're giving up on the idea entirely. I expect the same encroachment to come later, incrementally, so the frog doesn't know it's boiling.

And I pretty much expect Sony to do the same. They didn't really "win" this round; they just spun the PR better by letting MicroSquash go out first and shoot themselves in the foot, then stepping in and saying, in effect, "We're going to let you use a smaller gun to shoot yourself!"


Exactly.
Which is why my cash stays in my pocket - I got a pretty non-negotiable notion of what "MINE" means, and when money changes hands, and I have a physical product in hand, that shit is "MINE", you do not get to tell me what I can and cannot do with it, EVER.

-F

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Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:59 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

When the XBone and the PS4 were announced, I confess I was a bit surprised, and not really in a good way. My initial reaction was "Why?" Does anyone still need a console or a disk that they physically load? Why isn't gaming streaming like Netflix now, where you pay a low monthly fee and have basically unlimited access to your favorite games?


See Frem's post. If you have a physical hard copy of the game on disk, you might be able to physically lose it, but so long as you have the disk and a compatible platform then your access to the game can't be discontinued.

Whereas online only access to games means some lackey can suspend your account for whatever reason, or, as happened with the PS3, there can be a massive leak of user information and compromised financial data.

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Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:09 AM

BYTEMITE


Also: name reminds me of the old skull and cross bones.

Microsoft = proud participant of the Inadvertently Encouraging Piracy Campaign 2013.


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Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:46 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Also, I don't think for a moment that them pulling back means they're giving up on the idea entirely. I expect the same encroachment to come later, incrementally, so the frog doesn't know it's boiling.

And I pretty much expect Sony to do the same. They didn't really "win" this round; they just spun the PR better by letting MicroSquash go out first and shoot themselves in the foot, then stepping in and saying, in effect, "We're going to let you use a smaller gun to shoot yourself!"


Exactly.
Which is why my cash stays in my pocket - I got a pretty non-negotiable notion of what "MINE" means, and when money changes hands, and I have a physical product in hand, that shit is "MINE", you do not get to tell me what I can and cannot do with it, EVER.

-F





While I agree in theory, I also have Netflix and Spotify accounts. I don't "own" any of the stuff on their streaming servers, but I have access to all of it. I think of it more as "renting" than owning, and $5 or $10 a month is cheaper than buying a CD or DVD every time I want to listen to new music or watch a movie.

Oh, and World of Tanks is coming to the XBox. No word if it will be coming to PS3, though, so once again I'm odd man out. Not supported for Mac, not for PS3. Meh. I'm destined to go through life never having played a moment of Halo or World of Tanks, it seems.

First World problems.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7575130368/h75C088A6/



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, June 20, 2013 4:03 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
u-soft



...:o

*Thinks that abbreviation is clever*

*Geeks out about science for a while*



I'm so pleased somebody got it.

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Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:05 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Oh, and World of Tanks is coming to the XBox.


Mmmm, fresh meat!

Those poor, poor bastards, I almost feel sorry for them... NOT!

-F

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Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:09 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

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Friday, June 21, 2013 5:55 AM

BYTEMITE


^ZOMBIES! D:

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