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Arkansas Public School Asked To Keep Prayer Out Of Graduation Cancels Ceremony Instead

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Friday, May 10, 2013 7:46 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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A public school in Arkansas has cancelled a grade school graduation ceremony after a parent requested that prayers not be said during the event. Riverside school district decided to pull the plug on the ceremony rather than make it a non-religious one. Now, Christian parents are whining about the cancellation and are claiming that their rights have been violated.

So now instead of a graduation ceremony in a public school where separation of church and state should be observed, Adams and other Christian parents have decided to hold the event in a church and apparently everyone is invited to be indoctrinated or persecuted.

“We just went to take a stand for God because we felt like out rights were taken away,” Adams said. “A lot of the parents, the Christian parents decided to get together and do it at the church. We are including everyone, everyone is invited, we want everyone to come and be a part of it. We’re not trying to be pushy or ugly to anybody, we just want them to know there is a God who loves them.”

See what Adams said right there at the end? First they want to hold the ceremony at a Christian church. And if that’s not enough of a violation of religious freedom, the Christian parents are inviting the non-believers to the ceremony to show them that “there is a God who loves them.” How is that not persecution? How is that not an attempt to indoctrinate? This is why religion is prohibited in public schools in the first place. Not every student practices the same beliefs, nor does every parent. While individual students are allowed to practice their beliefs in school clubs or quietly to themselves, classes and public events such as graduations are better off without religion so as to avoid violating the religious rights of any individual. Christian parents are claiming that their rights were taken away because one parent protested against prayer. That’s simply not the case.

If the school had been courageous enough to eliminate prayer from the event, it wouldn’t have changed much. Each student would have participated normally in the ceremony and no beliefs would have been trampled on in the process since prayer and religious speech belongs in church and not in schools. Prayer is certainly not necessary in a graduation ceremony. It’s a celebration of academic achievement after all, not a worship service. Likewise, graduation is not a religious event unless it’s at a private religious-run school. But at a public school where students of many different beliefs attend, observing a certain religion is far more likely to offend. Christians are free to practice their beliefs in church and in their own homes as are atheists, agnostics, Muslims, and Jews. But bringing a Christian pastor to a school event and delivering Christian prayers directly ostracizes any parent or student who doesn’t share those beliefs. The true people being persecuted in Arkansas is the parent and student who did not want to be subjected to Christian beliefs during what is supposed to be a secular event for all. Now they’re forced to either sit through what will be a Christian ceremony in a church or not be part the graduation at all. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/05/09/arkansas-public-school-asked-t
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There simply are no words. What do these people think "separation of church and state" MEAN, anyway?!?!

Oh, wait, silly me...I used the word "think"...

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Friday, May 10, 2013 11:13 AM

AGENTROUKA


I was curious whether there was a response from the school after not finding anything in the article, and google gave me this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/09/arkansas-school-cancels-gradu
ation-prayer-complaint_n_3247631.html?utm_hp_ref=religion


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Tommy Knight, the superintendent of the Riverside School District, told Fox News Radio that prayer was indeed at the center of the graduation controversy.

However, in an emailed statement to HuffPost, Knight said:

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For several years district personnel had been discussing whether to continue sponsoring 6th grade graduation. At the May 6, 2013 meeting, the Riverside School Board approved the motion for the District to no longer sponsor 6th grade graduation.


Meanwhile, Adams told KAIT that a group of Christian parents are planning to hold their own graduation ceremony at a local church.



So does this mean the school wanted to cancel the event for a time and this new hassle just prompted them to do it? Or is this just an attempt to not look like bigots?


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Friday, May 10, 2013 12:52 PM

HERO


What do they think "separation of church and state" means?

Two things. One, there not going to be any prayers.

Two, they probably think the Constitution is as silent on this "separation" as it is on holding a graduation.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Friday, May 10, 2013 2:58 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Maybe they could try stamping their feet and holding their breath as well.



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"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:49 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Rouka, my guess would be it's
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just an attempt to not look like bigots
--tho', not so much not to look like bigots, as to cover their asses and hopefully deflect attention. They don't want publicity, of course, so I would need to see some kind of "evidence", if you will, that the school actually considered not "sponsoring" graduation previously before I would believe them, personally. School administrations get stuck between a rock and a hard place where parents are concerned a LOT (I know, my mom worked for one), so they're no doubt getting shit from both directions. That would be my GUESS.

It's chickenshit, IMHO, but that's often also de rigueur for school district administrations, too.


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