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Why do you own a gun ?

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Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:27 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!




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Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:46 AM

BYTEMITE


Because it came with the cat.

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Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:14 AM

HERO


There's no line for 'all of the above'.

H

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Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:11 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


To make holes in a piece of paper far away.

To experiment with the myriad variables of bullet, powder, case, primer, seating depth, overall length, barrel, action, trigger, sights, hold, etc. that may allow me to make those holes in the piece of paper far away closer to each other.






"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:13 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
I don't. I'm Canadian. :)



And apparently not an ex-mountie.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2013/03/12/Ex-Mountie-arrested-
gun-cache-seized/UPI-75771363129616
/


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Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:21 PM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Because it came with the cat.




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Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:42 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
To make holes in a piece of paper far away.

To experiment with the myriad variables of bullet, powder, case, primer, seating depth, overall length, barrel, action, trigger, sights, hold, etc. that may allow me to make those holes in the piece of paper far away closer to each other.



^ Bitter clinger.


I bet 'Zombies' would have resulted in at least a 5% reply.

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Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:37 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


I don't either. Can't imagine I ever well.

Sport to me means something you do with balls generally, and doesn't involve killing or practising to kill.

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Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:59 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
I don't either. Can't imagine I ever well.

Sport to me means something you do with balls generally, and doesn't involve killing or practising to kill.



Hunting will become a sport when the " prey " can shoot back.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:58 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


EXactly....

arm them deers with high caliber thinghumeejigs and pump action whatsits, and then its a sport

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Friday, March 15, 2013 3:50 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
I don't. I'm Canadian.


Canada has a long and proud history of talking funny and loving hockey.

My suggestion is to come down to the "real" America and have some real bacon and buy a large handgun that holds lots of bullets. If you can combine the two...so much the better.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Friday, March 15, 2013 4:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Because it came with the cat.



Remember when Cracker Jack's had REALLY GOOD prizes at the bottom of the box.....?


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Friday, March 15, 2013 7:12 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Fewer and fewer people owning more and more guns.


Fear sells, and the NRA is in the business of selling fear to the fearful. It's the only way gun manufacturers can stay in business, by keeping people terrified.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, March 15, 2013 7:13 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Because it came with the cat.




Postal?




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Friday, March 15, 2013 7:16 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Fewer and fewer people owning more and more guns.


Fear sells, and the NRA is in the business of selling fear to the fearful. It's the only way gun manufacturers can stay in business, by keeping people terrified.



Just wondering Kwick.....

Would you feel comfortable if the only people who owned guns were the people who rule us?

I'm just asking because I'm wondering what the German Jews in the early 40's would say about that idea...


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Friday, March 15, 2013 9:21 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm just asking because I'm wondering what the German Jews in the early 40's would say about that idea...


They would probably say whatever they were told to say...by the 1940s they were not so concerned with political dialogue or dissent. Instead they had more pressing concerns like...food and hoping there would be water in the showers instead of something far worse.

In other words in was too late to speak up, the time for speaking out was past...the early 1940s were about keeping their heads down and hoping the shadow of death would pass them by.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Friday, March 15, 2013 9:32 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Wow...a conversation about Jews that PN didn't start! I suppose he might say that the Jews who stayed in Germany after Kristallnacht in 1938 were too stupid to live anyhow. But really, with the passing of the Nuremberg Laws in 1935, their fate was permanently sealed.

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Friday, March 15, 2013 10:01 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
I don't. I'm Canadian.


Canada has a long and proud history of talking funny and loving hockey.

My suggestion is to come down to the "real" America and have some real bacon and buy a large handgun that holds lots of bullets. If you can combine the two...so much the better.

H



Get out, eh ?

Canadians are just fine. They're able to be themselves because , for a while longer at least, we're still who we are. Though, sadly, that may chnage.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Friday, March 15, 2013 11:11 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Fewer and fewer people owning more and more guns.


Fear sells, and the NRA is in the business of selling fear to the fearful. It's the only way gun manufacturers can stay in business, by keeping people terrified.



So you've turned all yours in?


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Friday, March 15, 2013 11:28 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Fewer and fewer people owning more and more guns.


Fear sells, and the NRA is in the business of selling fear to the fearful. It's the only way gun manufacturers can stay in business, by keeping people terrified.




The NRA ? That's a laugh. It's the Dems and this socialist President who are selling fear.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, March 15, 2013 11:44 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Quote:

It's the Dems and this socialist President who are selling fear.

What fear are they selling, just out of interest? Or is this your 'No I'm not, you are!' reflex to criticisms of the right?

It's worth noting that violent crime has decreased significantly in this time period:



http://www.gallup.com/poll/150464/americans-believe-crime-worsening.as
px


It's not personal. It's just war.

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Friday, March 15, 2013 12:15 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!




Guns aren't the problem. The assault gun ban from the 90's resulted in exactly no real decrease in gun related deaths.


* Handguns were used in some 6,000 murders

What do you see on the news, over and over, as being the #`1 menace to our society. Handguns?

No. Assault rifles. " Mean looking " rifles, which Diane Feinstein says we don't NEED, only account for less than 400 murders. ( probably even less, because they're lumped in with 'rifles' , where as shot guns were another category, also less than 400.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/12/20/heres-the-chart-that-suppor
ters-of-a-federal-assault-weapons-ban-wont-want-to-see
/

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

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Friday, March 15, 2013 1:33 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Auraptor, did you see my question? Stop being the man shouting random, unprompted things to himself in the street, and answer it:

Quote:

What fear are they selling, just out of interest? Or is this your 'No I'm not, you are!' reflex to criticisms of the right?


It's not personal. It's just war.

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Friday, March 15, 2013 1:47 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Fewer and fewer people owning more and more guns.


Fear sells, and the NRA is in the business of selling fear to the fearful. It's the only way gun manufacturers can stay in business, by keeping people terrified.



So you've turned all yours in?




Into what?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, March 15, 2013 1:49 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Fewer and fewer people owning more and more guns.


Fear sells, and the NRA is in the business of selling fear to the fearful. It's the only way gun manufacturers can stay in business, by keeping people terrified.




The NRA ? That's a laugh. It's the Dems and this socialist President who are selling fear.




Impossible, by your own words. Socialists aren't capitalists.

Perhaps you have no idea what you're talking about.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, March 15, 2013 1:52 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


Guns aren't the problem. The assault gun ban from the 90's resulted in exactly no real decrease in gun related deaths.


* Handguns were used in some 6,000 murders




That's more than double the number of people killed on 9/11. Terrorism isn't a problem either, I take it.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, March 15, 2013 9:08 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


To shoot mother*&%#+kers in the face when I pull them in.....er, I mean when they break in.


SGG Light 'em if you got 'em!

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:



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Friday, March 15, 2013 9:10 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


I agree, guns aren't the problem.........people are. So place a ban on nut jobs who want to get their hands on a gun.


SGG

Shoot 'em in the face it works every time.

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


Guns aren't the problem. The assault gun ban from the 90's resulted in exactly no real decrease in gun related deaths.


* Handguns were used in some 6,000 murders

What do you see on the news, over and over, as being the #`1 menace to our society. Handguns?

No. Assault rifles. " Mean looking " rifles, which Diane Feinstein says we don't NEED, only account for less than 400 murders. ( probably even less, because they're lumped in with 'rifles' , where as shot guns were another category, also less than 400.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/12/20/heres-the-chart-that-suppor
ters-of-a-federal-assault-weapons-ban-wont-want-to-see
/

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall


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Friday, March 15, 2013 9:13 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


The NRA would never want gun safety, they're selling too many guns now. It has been said that the nearly 300 million guns in our country are owned by a smaller group of people - Nut jobs

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Fewer and fewer people owning more and more guns.


Fear sells, and the NRA is in the business of selling fear to the fearful. It's the only way gun manufacturers can stay in business, by keeping people terrified.




The NRA ? That's a laugh. It's the Dems and this socialist President who are selling fear.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall


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Saturday, March 16, 2013 2:16 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Fewer and fewer people owning more and more guns.


Fear sells, and the NRA is in the business of selling fear to the fearful. It's the only way gun manufacturers can stay in business, by keeping people terrified.



So you've turned all yours in?




Into what?



So you haven't.

Kind'a makes you a hypocrite, don't it? Why am I not surprised?


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Saturday, March 16, 2013 2:30 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
What fear are they selling, just out of interest?



This kind?

To scare the Liberals...

Quote:

Washington—The following is the prepared statement from Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) from today’s Judiciary Committee hearing on the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 (S. 150):

On December 14th, 20 sets of parents received a call no parent ever wants to receive: that they would never see their son or daughter again. Earlier that day, a deranged killer wielding an assault weapon and armed with high-capacity ammunition magazines shot his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut and unleashed a rapid hail of bullets, killing 20 young children – mostly 6-year-olds -- and six brave administrators in just the handful of minutes that it took for law enforcement to respond to the scene. That horrific event shocked our nation, and the pictures of these little victims brought tears to the eyes of millions of Americans.

We are holding today’s hearing because the massacre in Newtown was, sadly, not an anomaly. From the 1966 shooting rampage at the University of Texas, to the Newtown massacre, we have witnessed an increasing number of these mass killings. Since 1982, there have been at least 62 mass shootings across the United States. And they have been accelerating in recent years: 25 of these shootings have occurred since 2006, and seven took place in 2012.

The one common thread running through these mass shootings in recent years— from Aurora, Colorado, to Tucson, Arizona, to Blacksburg, Virginia — is that the gunman used a military-style, semiautomatic assault weapon or large-capacity ammunition magazine to commit the unspeakable horror.

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=c62
87561-bbbf-4971-bfed-3b8f05e63c0f


...and Legislators brandishing rifles in the State capital.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2264655/Virginia-lawmaker-bran
dishes-AK-47-state-Capitol-push-greater-gun-controls.html


Then there's New York's new gun laws, to scare the gun-owners.
http://www.cattco.org/news/20132811-new-york-state-gun-control-law-201
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"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:07 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Auraptor, did you see my question? Stop being the man shouting random, unprompted things to himself in the street, and answer it:

Quote:

What fear are they selling, just out of interest? Or is this your 'No I'm not, you are!' reflex to criticisms of the right?


It's not personal. It's just war.



The Left are instilling fear that guns are the issue here, when they aren't. Assault rifle bans and limiits on clip sizes will accomplish absolutely nothing. Far more people die via automobiles, but you don't hear anywhere near the rhetoric on " if it just saves 1 more life, how can we not act! " on banning certain types of cars, or forcing the auto makers to put restrictor plates in their engines to make it impossible for cars to go faster than say 70 mph.

The belief that govt, by boldly acting, can some how solve ALL problems by enacting massive, broad sweeping controls on our freedoms is a mind set which the Left absolutely adores. And it ignores the fact that such authoritarian actions are rarely, if ever, effective in dealing w/ the stated problem.

See AGW, the war on poverty, etc...


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Saturday, March 16, 2013 4:19 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Fewer and fewer people owning more and more guns.


Fear sells, and the NRA is in the business of selling fear to the fearful. It's the only way gun manufacturers can stay in business, by keeping people terrified.



So you've turned all yours in?




Into what?



So you haven't.

Kind'a makes you a hypocrite, don't it? Why am I not surprised?




How so?

Have I advocated gun confiscation here, or said that everyone with guns should "turn them in"?

You don't make any sense. Why am I not surprised?

Incidentally, I am in the process of selling everything but a couple "heirloom" pieces that were gifts from my late father.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, March 16, 2013 8:29 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
How so?

Have I advocated gun confiscation here, or said that everyone with guns should "turn them in"?



Nor have I said you did. You have been taking a pretty anti-gun stance, after talking a lot about guns in the past. Could it be that the Democratic faer-mongers got to you?

Quote:


Incidentally, I am in the process of selling everything but a couple "heirloom" pieces that were gifts from my late father.



But those guns you're selling might end up being used in a crime. How could you be so un-caring? Better, from your new point of view, to turn them into the police and have them melted down.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:20 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
How so?

Have I advocated gun confiscation here, or said that everyone with guns should "turn them in"?



Nor have I said you did.



So because I haven't advocated confiscation or urged everyone to turn in their guns, I'm a hypocrite for not turning my guns in?

Look up what I said about you not making any sense. It still applies.

Quote:


You have been taking a pretty anti-gun stance, after talking a lot about guns in the past. Could it be that the Democratic faer-mongers got to you?




Not sure what "faer-mongers" do (do they try to get people behind the causes of faeries, perhaps?), but I think you have me mistaken for someone else. Or you are living in some fantasy world where everything is pure black and white, and anyone who isn't pro-guns-for-everyone is "anti-gun".

I'm moving some guns for purely financial reasons. I bought them when prices were low, with the intention of selling them when prices were high. As with most financial decisions, there was some risk involved, but I had a pretty good idea where things were headed with regards to gun prices, because people like Wayne LaPierre have been selling fear and using it to push gun prices higher for years. The MAK-90 I paid $400 for five years ago is going for $1600 now, which makes it a better investment than the stock market or real estate.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:50 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


I should apologize to gun owners, because, as I understand it, the majority of registered gun owning NRA members are for gun safety and gun control. It's the NRA leadership that are refusing to accept gun safety measures.

I am deeply sorry for saying "nut jobs," that was completely unfair.


SGG

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
The NRA would never want gun safety, they're selling too many guns now. It has been said that the nearly 300 million guns in our country are owned by a smaller group of people - Nut jobs

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Fewer and fewer people owning more and more guns.


Fear sells, and the NRA is in the business of selling fear to the fearful. It's the only way gun manufacturers can stay in business, by keeping people terrified.




The NRA ? That's a laugh. It's the Dems and this socialist President who are selling fear.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Sunday, March 17, 2013 9:28 AM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I should apologize to gun owners, because, as I understand it, the majority of registered gun owning NRA members are for gun safety and gun control. It's the NRA leadership that are refusing to accept gun safety measures.

I am deeply sorry for saying "nut jobs," that was completely unfair.


SGG



You have it completely backwards.

The NRA pushes gun safety more than anyone.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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