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What's going on around Andromeda? Curious structure puzzles scientists.

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Sunday, January 6, 2013 8:45 AM

NIKI2

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What we know of the universe is so dwarfed by what we DON'T know, isn't it!
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Thirteen dwarf galaxies are playing a cosmic-scale game of Ring Around Andromeda, forming an enormous structure astronomers have never seen before and are hard-pressed to explain with current theories of how galaxies form and evolve.



According to current theories, the small galaxies, which contain as many as a few tens of billions of stars each, should be randomly arranged around the Andromeda galaxy.

Instead, they orbit Andromeda within a plane more than 1 million light-years across and about 30,000 light-years thick. For comparison, the latest estimates of Andromeda's girth put its diameter at more than 220,000 light-years.

Such rings don't appear when astrophysicists run their models of galaxy evolution, or when they model the local group's formation, he says. In addition, Andromeda and the Milky Way, the two most massive galaxies in the group, appear to be headed for a collision in about 4.5 billion years. The two galaxies are but 2.5 million light-years away and closing.

"Given all of this, we don't have a clear explanation for why this structure exists," Dr. Rich says.

Coming up with an explanation will be challenging. Andromeda was the only galaxy close enough to make the observation possible. But researchers would like to find more of these extended rings.

Larger numbers would provide increasingly rigorous real-world tests of any explanations scientists devise, notes Chris Stoughton, an astronomer at the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory in Batavia, Ill.

In particular, he says, an understanding of these structures could help researchers unravel the mysteries of dark matter – a form of matter that provides the cocoons in which galaxies form and grow, as well as the scaffolding along which galaxies are distributed in the cosmos.

The team discovering the rings – led by Rodrigo Ibata of the Strasbourg Astronomical Observatory in France and Geraint Lewis at the University of Sydney in Australia – identified 27 dwarf galaxies in all orbiting Andromeda, also called M31. Thirteen of the dwarf galaxies shared a common orbital plane around Andromeda, and one was offset from the plane of M31's spiral arms by a significant degree.

Dr. Ibata's team has offered up two broad explanations for the presence of Andromeda's ring of dwarfs.

One posits that M31's gravity attracted a group of dwarf galaxies in a single event, and perhaps the team just caught a lucky viewing angle as the dwarfs filed filament-like into the gravitational grasp of their new mistress.

The other is that they formed in place during the merger of two ancient gas-rich galaxies – a process that can form coherent streamers of stars in lesser mergers. Or perhaps during M31's birth, smaller halos of gas-bearing dark matter were captured by the more massive halo in which M31 formed. More at http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/0104/What-s-going-on-around-Andr
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Sunday, January 6, 2013 12:04 PM

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Fascinating !

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Sunday, January 6, 2013 7:46 PM

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Monday, January 7, 2013 1:07 AM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
My thoughts are more the pull of gravity. Even though we don't know how long this has been going on.



Sure we do. 6,000 years. That's how old the universe is, after all.



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Monday, January 7, 2013 5:28 AM

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Hee, hee, hee...

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Monday, January 7, 2013 10:00 AM

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So, the models are wrong. What's the big deal ? I mean, all but one of the drwarf ( or should we call them Little ? ) galaxies are in the rotational plane of Andromeda, right ? Sure, it's a puzzler as to how they got there, but that's par for the course. Space is tricky.

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Monday, January 7, 2013 7:40 PM

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Ah, so THAT'S where Janeane Garofalo comes from.

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