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Hospital nurse found dead after taking prank call on Catherine

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UPDATED: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:41
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Friday, December 7, 2012 2:32 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Just terrible.



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London (CNN) -- A nurse at the hospital who was duped by a prank call from two Australian radio DJs concerning Prince William's pregnant wife, Catherine, has apparently committed suicide, the hospital confirmed Friday.

The nurse "was recently the victim of a hoax call," King Edward VII Hospital said in a media statement.

The DJs impersonated Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Charles in the prank call, in which some details of the Duchess of Cambridge's condition and care were given.

The nurse who died was the person who first took the hoax call and transferred it through to Catherine's ward, the hospital's public relations company said.

The hospital named her as Jacintha Saldanha and said she had worked there for more than four years as an "excellent nurse," well-respected by co-workers.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/07/world/europe/uk-royal-hospital-death/ind
ex.html





I actually heard a clip of this call, via another radio station, before I had heard the nurse in question was found dead. I'm not even sure the host ( Mike Gallagher, I believe ) knew the woman had taken her own life, but was merely commenting on the childishness of such a prank call in the first place.

The DJ's who pulled the prank are off the air, until further notice. DUH. Not sure what, if anything they can be tried for, but I bet the family of the nurse will seek some sort of damages.

The nurse was married, and a mother of 2. That she'd leave her family like, over a silly prank call, indicates to me that she had other 'issues' than this , and this was the straw that broke the camel's back, so to say.






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Friday, December 7, 2012 2:37 PM

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Paging Dr David Kelly. Paging Dr David Kelly.

Oh that's right, he suicided himself.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Dr+David+Kelly+murder n

Nobody fucks with the German Nazi queen of England.


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Friday, December 7, 2012 5:00 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Oh my goodness that is so sad, what a horrible incident. I feel really bad for this woman because its obvious that she was really struggling emotionally or else something like this wouldn't have caused, or lead to, something so ... final. Crap, that's really awful.

I thought the prank was funny, I mean prank calls are fun. But wow, this is really sad. :(((((

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Friday, December 7, 2012 7:19 PM

PEACEKEEPER

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You've got to call in to question the security protocols that allowed this call to get through in the first place.Shouldn't this have been screened by the RPS first!!!!!
The poor woman has obviously been given a dressing down for her naivety, and this has left her distraught.But to take your own life because of a prank call indicates a condition that NOBODY can be blamed for.
These kind of hoaxes are parodied on TV shows worldwide, so lets not give the Aussie DJ's too much grief.

And PN,more proof that you are insensitive, juvenile, fucked up little prick,and I pray to God that somewhere down the line that you will discover your entire life is nowt but a hoax.

With the grace of age, commander, we learn to accept.

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Friday, December 7, 2012 8:10 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Most Australian DJ's should be rounded up and sent to the island. Just saying.

This made me so sad.

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Friday, December 7, 2012 8:14 PM

HERO


Freedom of stupidity.

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Saturday, December 8, 2012 1:23 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY


The DJ's are being given councelling, so that's OK then.

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Saturday, December 8, 2012 2:21 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Most Australian DJ's should be rounded up and sent to the island. Just saying.

This made me so sad.



Isn't that what Australia is, one big ass island, which was colonized basically for the sake of being a penal colony, in the first place?


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Saturday, December 8, 2012 7:37 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I can't imagine being blamed for an INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT and not feeling distraught over it.

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Saturday, December 8, 2012 2:06 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


This made me so sad.



Isn't that what Australia is, one big ass island, which was colonized basically for the sake of being a penal colony, in the first place?





Yeah, they sent the badasses though, not the dickheads. Those we just bred ourselves ;)

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Saturday, December 8, 2012 6:05 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


MENTAL health experts hold grave concerns for the radio presenters at the centre of the royal prank call controversy, urging the public not to blame them for the suspected suicide of the nurse who took the call.

Mel Greig and Michael Christian from Sydney's 2Day FM had to close their Twitter accounts on Saturday after angry social media users accused them of having "blood on their hands".

But leading psychiatrist and former Australian of the Year Patrick McGorry called for calm, saying suicide was a complex issue that was unlikely to be caused by one individual factor.
Patrick McGorry.

Psychiatrist Patrick McGorry has called for calm.

"I feel sorry for them because they obviously had no intention of causing any harm. Blame is hardly ever useful," Professor McGorry said.
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"Most people are in a state of mental ill health leading up to when they kill themselves and it would have needed more than just that trigger to actually bring that about.

"You could say that a stressful life event like this was a contributory cause - and maybe she wouldn't have killed herself at this point in time without that having happened - but it was likely that there were some other factors going on too."

Frank Quinlan, chief executive of the Mental Health Council of Australia, said there was a risk of compounding the tragedy by targeting the radio presenters.

"It's hard to imagine that the vitriol and hatred and anger that we're seeing in this case is going to result in anything positive," he said.

"What this case shows is we need to be having a conversation about suicide and about mental health in general and how we can better support people who may be vulnerable - that's really the only prospect we have of getting anything positive out of this. The message to all of us needs to be to take a moment to pause before we jump to accusations that could have a lasting effect."

Jeff Kennett, chairman of the national depression agency beyondblue, expressed his concern for the radio DJs, saying the call was meant as a "harmless prank" that was never intended to hurt anyone, and he hoped the Australian community would be understanding.

"This is going to have terrible ramifications in terms of the impact on people's lives and I hope that both Mel and Michael are strong ... We've got to be careful we don't become so politically correct that we deny ourselves the opportunity like now to extend to these two all the support we can to ensure that they come through this as strongly as possible."

Jaelea Skehan, acting director of the Hunter Institute of Mental Health, said it was too early to know all the facts in the case and caution was needed.

"We don't know whether the radio prank played into this woman's death because we don't know anything about her the circumstances of her life," she said.

"While it's obviously tragic for everyone concerned, her family, her colleagues and all who knew her, it's also tragic for the two people who have been named and shamed in association with it."

Ms Skehan has led the Mindframe committee on media guidelines on reporting suicide and mental health for the last decade.

"The kind of behaviour that people have been criticising the radio hosts for, they're now doing very similar types of behaviour back towards them with vitriol," she said.

"If people are arguing that public humiliation has been related to the death of this women then must one must also reflect that public humiliation directed towards those two people on the radio is not going to be helpful either."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/prank-callers-not-
to-blame-say-mental-health-experts-20121208-2b28n.html#ixzz2EWXsat5d


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Monday, December 10, 2012 9:52 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Dunno how much it counts for, but apparently they're contrite:
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The two Australian radio personalities who made the prank phone call to a British hospital caring for the pregnant Duchess of Cambridge made tearful apologies Monday for making the call, which may have led to the suicide of a nurse who spoke to the pair.

Mel Greig and Michael Christian, both crying at times, told two Australian television shows Monday that their thoughts are with the family of Jacintha Saldanha, the 46-year-old nurse who put the prank call through to the ward where the duchess was.

"I'm very sorry and saddened for the family, and I can't imagine what they've been going through," Greig said on the program "Today Tonight."

Greig and Christian said they never expected the prank call to be successful.

Posing as Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles, the pair said they thought their bad accents would give them away and whoever answered the phone at the hospital would hang up on them.

"We wanted to be hung up on with our silly voices," Greig said.

"We assumed that we'd be hung up on, and that would be that," Christian said.

But they were put through to the duchess's ward and given some details of her medical condition.

"It was never meant to go that far. It was meant to be a silly little prank that so many people have done before," Greig said

"If we played any involvement in her death, then we're very sorry for that," said Greig, who described how she found out about Saldana's apparent suicide.

"It's the worst phone call I've had in my life," she said, fighting tears.

"There's not a minute that goes by that we don't think about her family and what they must be going through, and the thought that we may have played a part in that is gut-wrenching," Greig said.

The pair have been taken off the air by their network, which has not said when they might return.

"I don't even want to think about going back on air, to be honest," Greig said.More at http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/10/world/asia/australia-radio-personalities
/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
]
Apparently the show's been pulled, since then:
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An Australian radio network at the heart of a hoax targeting Prince William's pregnant wife canceled the show responsible for the prank on Monday, expressing deep regret for the death of a nurse who took a call from the DJs involved.

The two DJs "will not return to the airwaves until further notice," the statement from the network, Southern Cross Austereo, said. The company also suspended all prank calls, pulled advertising and ordered a comprehensive review of relevant policies and processes.More at http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/10/world/europe/uk-royal-hospital-death/ind
ex.html?hpt=hp_t1
]
It's put a (no doubt temporary) spotlight on shock jocks. Fine with me, I hate them.
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Nurse death sparks outrage, casts glare on 'shock jocks'

2DayFM has a history of public humiliation. In 2009, a 14-year-old girl was tricked into acknowledging that she had been raped at the age of 12 -- only to be asked by a DJ: "Is that the only experience you've had?"

That led the Australian Communications and Media Authority to censure the station -- saying the broadcast did not meet standards of decency. The station said it had provided the teenager with counseling and vowed "to prevent anything similar from happening again."

But 2DayFM has been the subject of several inquiries since; and this year was told it "must not broadcast material that demeans or is likely to demean women or girls" as a condition of keeping its license.

That followed a broadcast in which a female journalist was called a derogatory term and told "to watch your mouth or I'll hunt you down" by DJ Kyle Sandilands. The incident provoked a campaign to persuade advertisers to boycott the show, but 2DayFM was not fined and Sandilands kept his job. He even interviewed Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard in July.

After its latest prank, 2DayFM's website boasted about the "Biggest Royal Prank Ever," but in the UK, Daily Telegraph columnist Bryony Gordon said it was "not so funny to hear two grown adults call up a hospital ward full of sick people to try to scam information about one of them."

Prank phone calls and other practical jokes have long been a form of entertainment on radio and television. Most of the time they are harmless enough: both sides get the joke. The TV series "Candid Camera" ran for years because the great majority of the people tricked by the show were prepared to sign away their dignity for a few minutes.

But pranks can go wrong.

Back in 2008, the BBC apologized to actor Andrew Sachs after two radio presenters -- Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross -- left a series of messages on his phone while on-air, including offensive references to his granddaughter. The second message apologized for the first -- but also suggested Sachs might kill himself because of the content of the previous message.

The two presenters were later suspended by the BBC, and a senior executive resigned. The corporation was also fined some $225,000 by the UK media regulator and its governing trust described the episode as a "deplorable intrusion with no editorial justification."

Brand moved on -- to a career in Hollywood. Veteran publicist Max Clifford told the Daily Telegraph soon after the incident that Brand's career would not be hurt.

"He's known to be controversial and, if anything, it will make him more popular amongst his fans, who will have thought this was hilarious," Clifford told the newspaper.

As Oscar Wilde once said, "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about."

In the 21st century, personal humiliation can quickly go viral thanks to the reach and appetite of both social and mainstream media. Within hours, the minor transgressions and innocent mistakes, the private behavior and anxieties of ordinary people can reach, or seem to reach, the ends of the earth. For a few, that exposure is quickly overwhelming.More at http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/07/world/europe/royal-hospital-death-ethics
/index.html?hpt=hp_t1



Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Monday, December 10, 2012 12:37 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Not for nothing, but is it possible the nurse just felt really horrible, thinking she'd let down the royal family? I mean, we can't really understand that kind of thinking, maybe, but some are so enamored of the royals that they really would die for queen and country, right? And the idea that your actions would have brought such dishonor to them might weigh quite heavily on one's soul.


A terrible, sad, stupid thing, that's what it is.



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Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:04 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I agree it's terribly sad, and that's an interesting concept--I know we don't understand how the Brits feel about their royal family, so who knows? Any way you cut it, this was obviously a woman with serious problems, as nobody kills themself over something like this without other things being involved as well.

Seems the Aussie radio show is still trying to mollify the situation "Australian Radio Show Pledges $525,000 to Family of Nurse after Prank Call" http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/12/11/australian-radio-show-pledges-5250
00-to-family-of-nurse-after-prank-call/


Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:41 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


The company that owns that radio station really is the pits. They are known for their shock tactics, stupid pranks, horrible Dj's.

That being said, I have a certain amount of sympathy for the DJ's, because having used bullying and humiliating tactics, they now have sections of the press turn those same tactics on them X100. The press/social media really do have the capacity to make someone's life unbearable. You can see it at work on both sides.

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