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Friday, October 26, 2012 5:36 AM
Quote:With computer models locked in on the eventuality of a punishing blow for East Coast from Hurricane Sandy (with the latest model runs favoring the northern mid-Atlantic), analyses suggest this storm may be unlike anything the region has ever experienced.
Model simulations have consistently simulated minimum pressures below 950 mb, which would be the lowest on record in many areas.
“MODELS SHOW PRESSURE WELL BEYOND WHAT HAS EVER BEEN OBSERVED NEAR THE NJ/NY COAST (EVEN EXCEEDING THE 1938 LONG ISLAND EXPRESS [HURRICANE])”, writes NOAA’s Hydrometeorological Prediction Center (HPC).
Connecticut meteorologist Ryan Hanrahan noted there has only been one tropical storm with the pressure below 960 mb in the last 60 years in the Northeast.
Friday, October 26, 2012 7:13 AM
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:45 PM
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Sunday, October 28, 2012 2:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I figure Frem might just punch the blizzard in the face.
Sunday, October 28, 2012 2:44 PM
Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki:
How do you feel about being our reporter on the storm? I love extreme weather (except when a tornado passed over head - it felt ominous), and it's one of the things I miss most about living here on the west coast.
Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:20 PM
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Monday, October 29, 2012 12:11 AM
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Monday, October 29, 2012 3:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Me.........in NYC, surrounded by water. Not a good feeling, just waiting for Sandy to pay us a visit.
Monday, October 29, 2012 4:29 AM
Monday, October 29, 2012 4:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer:
We already have plans in place in case of a power outage to drink all the beer in the fridge before it gets warm.
Monday, October 29, 2012 5:19 AM
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Monday, October 29, 2012 7:08 AM
Monday, October 29, 2012 7:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki:
Thanks! for posting the pictures. I wish I had photos of some of the flooding back east a couple of years ago. When you stand on a bridge that's normally 25 feet up off the water, and the water is touching the base of the bridge and running at about 35mph - it's awesome, and scary.
What camera do you have? Those pictures are pretty good for landscapes.
Monday, October 29, 2012 8:06 AM
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Monday, October 29, 2012 9:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko:
Just saw that they've lost half of the historic fishing pier at Ocean City, MD, too. And a crane collapsed in Manhattan in the high winds.
Sandy's going to take her toll, it seems. Let's hope the toll's not going to be in blood.
Monday, October 29, 2012 12:19 PM
Monday, October 29, 2012 3:53 PM
Beir bua agus beannacht
Monday, October 29, 2012 5:38 PM
Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:08 AM
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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:28 AM
Keeping order in every verse
Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:53 AM
Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:43 AM
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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I've been reading about this storm. I knew it was going to be bad, but the shut down of the New York subway and Stock Exchange is kinda scary.
Hopefully there hasn't been looting. A New York Katrina would almost be a sign of the end times.
Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:08 PM
Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:17 PM
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:The storm caused the worst damage in the 108-year history of the city's subway system, and there was no indication of when the largest U.S. transit system would be rolling again.
"This was a devastating storm, maybe the worst that we have ever experienced," New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said.
A hoarse-voiced New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie gave bleak news at a morning news conference: Seaside rail lines washed away. Most major tunnels and bridges in New York were closed. No safe place on the state's barrier islands for him to land. Parts of the coast still under water.
"The level of devastation at the Jersey Shore is unthinkable," he said. "Houses are moved off their foundations, there are houses in the middle of route 35."
The governor went on to say, "It is beyond anything I thought I'd ever see...It is a devastating sight right now."
Most major tunnels and bridges in New York were closed. (Think about that!)
Trading at the New York Stock Exchange was canceled again Tuesday after the storm sent a nearly 14-foot (4.27-meter) surge of seawater, a record, coursing over its seawalls and highways and into low-lying streets. The water inundated tunnels, subway stations and the electrical system that powers Wall Street and sent hospital patients and tourists scrambling for safety. Skyscrapers swayed and creaked in winds that partially toppled a crane 74 stories above Midtown. A large tanker ship ran aground on the city's Staten Island.
A fire raged in a neighborhood Tuesday morning in the borough of Queens, near the Atlantic Ocean, with 80 to 100 homes destroyed but no deaths reported.
"This will be one for the record books," said John Miksad, senior vice president for electric operations at Consolidated Edison, which had more than 670,000 customers without power in and around New York City.
In New Jersey, where the superstorm came ashore, Sandy cut off barrier islands, swept houses from their foundations and washed amusement pier rides into the ocean. It also wrecked several boardwalks up and down the coast, tearing away a section of Atlantic City's world-famous promenade. Atlantic City's 12 waterfront casinos came through largely unscathed.
A huge swell of water swept over the small town of Moonachie, and authorities struggled to rescue about 800 people, some of them living in a trailer park. Police and fire officials used boats to try to reach the stranded.
The massive storm reached well into the Midwest with heavy rain and snow. Chicago officials warned residents to stay away from the Lake Michigan shore as the city prepared for winds of up to 60 mph (96 kph) and waves exceeding 24 feet (7.2 meters) well into Wednesday.
As Hurricane Sandy closed in on the Northeast, it converged with a cold-weather system that turned it into a monstrous hybrid of rain and high winds -- even bringing snow in West Virginia and other mountainous areas inland.
While the hurricane's 90 mph (144 kph) winds registered as only a Category 1 on a scale of five, it packed "astoundingly low" barometric pressure, giving it terrific energy to push water inland, said Kerry Emanuel, a professor of meteorology at MIT.
New York University's Tisch Hospital was forced to evacuate 200 patients after its backup generator failed. NYU Medical Dean Robert Grossman said patients -- among them 20 babies from the neonatal intensive care unit who were on battery-powered respirators -- had to be carried down staircases and to dozens of ambulances waiting to take them to other hospitals.
Quote:The storm reached as far inland as Ohio. Parts of West Virginia were buried under 3 feet (1 meter) of drifting snow from the storm.
"To describe it as looking like pictures we've seen of the end of World War Two is not overstating it. The area was completely leveled. Chimneys and foundations were all that was left of many of these homes," New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said after touring the area.
One disaster modeling company said on Tuesday that Sandy may have caused up to $15 billion in insured losses. That would make it the third-costliest hurricane on record, behind hurricanes Katrina, which laid waste to New Orleans and the Gulf Coast in 2005, and Andrew, which devastated parts of Florida in 1992.
That figure did not take into account residential flood losses or flooding of tunnels and subways, meaning ultimate insurance claims could rise higher still.
"There are boats in the street five blocks from the ocean," said evacuee Peter Sandomeno, one of the owners of the Broadway Court Motel in Point Pleasant Beach, New Jersey. "That's the worst storm I've ever seen, and I've been there for 11 years."
Sandy, which was especially imposing because of its wide-ranging winds, brought a record storm surge of almost 14 feet to downtown Manhattan, well above the previous record of 10 feet during Hurricane Donna in 1960, the National Weather Service said.
Water poured into the subway tunnels under New York City. Bloomberg said the subway system, which normally carries over 5 million people each weekday, would likely be closed for four or five days.
"Hitting at high tide, the strongest surge and the strongest winds all hit at the worst possible time," said Jeffrey Tongue, a meteorologist for the weather service in Brookhaven, New York.
Hurricane-force winds as high as 90 miles per hour (145 km per hour) were recorded, he said. "Hopefully it's a once-in-a-lifetime storm," Tongue said.
The flooding hampered efforts to fight a massive fire that destroyed more than 80 homes in Breezy Point, a private beach community on the Rockaway barrier island in the New York City borough of Queens.
New York University's Tisch hospital was forced to evacuate more than 200 patients, among them babies on respirators in the neonatal intensive care unit, when the backup generator failed.
Besides the deaths in New York City, others were reported in New York state, Massachusetts, Maryland, Connecticut, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia. Toronto police also recorded one death - a woman hit by flying debris. Sandy killed 69 people in the Caribbean last week.
As Sandy converged with a cold weather system, blizzard warnings were in effect for West Virginia, western Maryland, eastern Tennessee, eastern Kentucky and western North Carolina.
Garrett County in Maryland had as much as 20 inches of heavy, icy snow that knocked out power to almost three-quarters of the area's 23,000 customers.
"It's the biggest (October snowstorm) that I remember and I've been here 25 years," said area resident Richard Hill, who planned to huddle by his wood stove.
More at http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/30/us-storm-sandy-hurricane-idUSBRE89N16J20121030]
Sorry Newold, but I don't think it's hyperbole. I don't think they need to dream up or dramatize anything; what we're seeing says it all. Maybe you don't realize across the Pond just how big New York AND ITS SURROUNDING AREAS are. Or the distance from our East Coast to Ohio, or how MUCH of the East Coast has been involved. Check it out:
See Ohio, and how far inland it is? It's 470 miles from New York to Ohio. Go back and read what's going on in Ohio. How wide is England? It's about 500 kilometers (300 mi.). See the distance from Massachussets to North Caronia? It's 712 MILES. Compare that to the U.K.: Lands End - north of Shetlands = about 1,100 km. (765 miles). In other words, it would pretty much cover your little island, and then some. Now go back and read the devastation WITHIN that area, and tell me again that it's just a "big storm". Perspective, my man, perspective.
Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.
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