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Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:51 AM

JONGSSTRAW



The Donald has been tweeting and saying on tv that he's got a big announcement concerning Obama which he will reveal tomorrow. He says it will impact the election. This type of thing, whatever it is, really chaps my buns. It'll likely be another big nothing, and if I know Trump it will probably backfire and end up hurting Romney.


Next up...Dick Morris - He loves to predict things, only problem is he's always wrong. In 2008 he predicted Hillary would beat Obama for the nomination and become the first female president. In 2010 he predicted that Sharron Angle would defeat Harry Reid. Now he's predicting a Romney "landslide" with 300 electoral votes. Fact is this guy has lost so many "steak-dinner" bets that he's had to buy a cattle ranch in Texas to cover his losses.


Finally...Frank Luntz - I don't know from what cabbage patch this guy sprung up, but he's just a poor man's PT Barnum. His audience "results" are almost as absurd as the dolts who volunteer to participate in the shenanigans. I guess it's the free buffet lunch they get for their time.

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Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:01 AM

PEACEKEEPER

Keeping order in every verse


Hopefully, his announcement will be that he is getting the fuck out of Aberdeenshire and taking his pointless yank fucking golf course with him, and stop spoiling the beautiful Scottish coastline and bullying th Menie estate residents,Perhaps the Scottish Government will stop letting loud mouth cocksure dickheads like him set up shop in a land that don't want him or need him and his pointless entourage. Why the fuck doesn't he stick to ruining US wilderness and leave us the fuck alone. Hateful little prick.

With the grace of age, commander, we learn to accept.

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Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:34 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Don't hold back, PK - tell us how you REALLY feel!





But yeah, I'm with you on that one. Be lovely to see them banish his worthless ass from Scotland.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:57 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


PK, and then some! I wish the Ozzies would take him back and DROWN him or something...maybe turn him over to the Crocks? He's left his "mark" all over your fair isle and our big "continent", and I wish someone had stopped him earlier. All I can say about BigMouth and his desperate need to be in the spotlight is

...and I agree with Jong on every point, ESPECIALLY Luntz. Both sides have 'em, but he's the worst, in my opinion.

Can we toss Grover Norquist in with that bunch of losers, PLEASE??


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Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:29 PM

PENGUIN


Remember his big surprise before the Republican Convention??

Apparently it wasn't that big after all.





King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:54 PM

PEACEKEEPER

Keeping order in every verse


Forgive my outspoken rant on this guy, but i absolutely HATE him. He has ridden roughshod over planning legislation, has told countless lies when it comes to the plans for the complex, and has insulted and ridiculed the decent people of Menie, who have had fishing rights in the area for hundereds of years. The area he is building on is a unique geological site where there is a constantly moving sand dune system, and he has FLATTENED it. He has buried 1000's of trees into a 40 foot hole in the ground. There has been wild deer, geese and indigenous wildlife, and I mean the same family of wildlife on that land that have been decimated and removed forever.
And what angers me most is, the Scottish legislation have allowed this to happen because they think it is beneficial to the local community, economically speaking.But all the workers are immigrant, all the guests at the complex will be wealthy Americans, who won't contribute a penny to the economy. They wont leave the complex to spend their bucks in Scotland. There is NOTHING within 50 miles to spend it ON.
This is pandering to the US dollar, plain and simple.As if Scotland doesn't have enough golf courses?????
It sickens me that this ugly, ginger tosser is allowed to have any influence on our environment whatsoever.
He received an Honorary degree from Robert Gordon University, which prompted eminent academics, who EARNED their degrees to hand them back in protest.It actually makes me want Scotland to drop out of the UK, it angers me that much. A well placed SAS sniper monitoring his next visit would garner no protest from me whatsoever.
And if this man is the epitome of Republican America, I pray that president Obama returns for another four years.
Our own Lord Sugar, who is the boss in our version of The Apprentice and probably one of our most successful businessman in 30 years, flatly refuses to deal with him, regardless of how much business sense it would make.
I absolutely despise the C**T.




If any of you get a chance,please take a look at the BBC documentary "You've been Trumped" by Antony Baxter, which chronicles the devastation that this prick has caused in Aberdeen.

With the grace of age, commander, we learn to accept.

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Tuesday, October 23, 2012 3:43 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I'd be inclined to add it to the list...








( and viewers will note the 'dated' material from the list. My guess is, w/ Trump... IT APPLIES! )




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:49 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


PK, no apologies necessary - many here in the States feel the same way about him.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Tuesday, October 23, 2012 5:00 PM

HERO


He's booked Obama on Celebrity Apprentice next season.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Tuesday, October 23, 2012 5:02 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
He's booked Obama on Celebrity Apprentice next season.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012



He'll have the time...oh, wait. He has the time NOW, is what I mean.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 23, 2012 5:05 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Trump's Big Announcement Tomorrow


"You're fired"?

To himself?

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Tuesday, October 23, 2012 10:43 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Hypothetical phone call tonight from Romney to Trump.....

Hey you bastard, listen closely. Anything you say about Obama at noon Wednesday is going to derail my election hopes. I know that secretly you actually want me to lose because you want to run for president in 2016, and you don't want me around then as the incumbent. So you just cancel your announcement, whatever it was, and you take a two week vacation somewhere far away. If you, however, proceed with it you can count on the following to occur...if I am elected president despite your attempts at subterfuge, I will direct the IRS to look into every single aspect of everything you do. I will create an entire new dept. just to uncover all your dirty secrets, and they will be relentless, and I guarantee that you will spend the rest of your days in a prison cell. If I lose the election because you interfered and created a last-minute wave of sympathy votes for Obama, then I will strike down with great vengeance and furious anger, and you will know my brother that my name is Romney when I lay my vengeance upon thee.



Meanwhile, on another absurd but true front, Ann Coulter tweets after the debate and calls Obama a retard. There are a lot of things you can call a president, but retard isn't one of them. She's a NY Times best-selling author, a public figure who ought to have at least some brain cells that know better, but when Michelle Malkin and Sarah Palin dress her down for it, you know it was a real bad move. Used to be Republican politicians themselves were self-destructive, now it's the coaches and cheerleaders ruining everything for them.



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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:05 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


PK, I agree with every single word, and so do a LOT of Americans. We're sick to death of Mister Grab-the-Spotlight comb-over and his antics, but many on the right love him. After all, he is the epitome of "richness", which so many of them foolishly buy into believing they can be, too, and Romney has wanted his support (embarrassing as it's been) all along. Besides, he's got a TV show!!! That makes him a celebrity, and I don't see Romney as having the guts to tell him off.

MAYBE, now that he's got the nomination and the election is so close, he'd tell Trump to shove it, but I have my doubts. And I'd love it if whatever his announcement is would harm Romney's chances in any way, I just doubt it would.

Trump for President? Surely even HE's not that dumb! Then again, given his complete unself-awareness and ego, who knows...


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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:36 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Aside from the fact that Trump is a self serving megalomaniac, what does everyone think of the offer ?

5 Million $'s the any charity Obama wants, if he simply releases his college admission info, his transcripts, and his US passport info.

Sure, it's timed to get the most hype for Trump, and be the most annoying as possible, but hey... if that's what it takes for this President to finally come clean, is that too much to ask ?




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:45 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Why isn't he making the same offer to Romney for his tax returns for the last dozen years?

And where are Romney's school records and passport info?

Have any of you ever seen his birth certificate? And if not, why don't you think it's important that you haven't seen it?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:46 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Also, does anyone honestly expect Trump to keep his word? Has he ever?

Remember when he said he'd release his tax returns the day after Obama released his birth certificate?

He never released them, did he?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:59 AM

BYTEMITE


A bet with charities at stake is what Trump's announcement was?

...I'd like to see the charities get that 4 million dollars, whether or not Obama releases anything. Somehow I doubt it will happen either way, which is sad for the charities, and kind of fills me with yet more anger and disgust. Dangle a carrot like that in front of people who need it, put conditions on it with the intention that it'll never have to be payed out, and snatch it away. Holding their needs hostage. The political points and the money more important than the people are.

I can't stand it. So many people gambling with lives, Obama included. But Trump, he just earned my SPECIAL IRE. What an ASSHOLE.


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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:03 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Why isn't he making the same offer to Romney for his tax returns for the last dozen years?

And where are Romney's school records and passport info?

Have any of you ever seen his birth certificate? And if not, why don't you think it's important that you haven't seen it?



Saw this comin'. And it's easy as hell to answer, too.

It's because there's no reason for Romney to do this, as there's no HINT of impropriety anywhere with him, unlike with Obama.

Obama had a published bio, which flatly stated that he was NOT born in the United States, but in fact was Kenyan by birth.

Either he's a Kenyan, or he LIED about that, in order to gain the system.

Which is it ?


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:04 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
... if that's what it takes for this President to finally come clean, is that too much to ask ?





Come clean??? About what? School records that NO ONE has to release? Why aren't you asking Mitt to "come clean?"

Oh, right, your derangement syndrome.


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum


"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:08 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
A bet with charities at stake is what Trump's announcement was?

...I'd like to see the charities get that 4 million dollars, whether or not Obama releases anything. Somehow I doubt it will happen either way, which is sad for the charities, and kind of fills me with yet more anger and disgust. Dangle a carrot like that in front of people who need it, put conditions on it with the intention that it'll never have to be payed out, and snatch it away. Holding their needs hostage. The political points and the money more important than the people are.

I can't stand it. So many people gambling with lives, Obama included. But Trump, he just earned my SPECIAL IRE. What an ASSHOLE.





My guess is that Trump already gives away more in charitable donations , to actual real causes, than Michelle and Obama make, combined.

Doesn't make him any less of an a-hole, for 'dangling' $ out there for folks, but it shouldn't really concern them, either way. Merely by mentioning them, I bet Trump has helped generate some extra donations already. PR never hurts, when you're looking to raise more $.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:11 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
... if that's what it takes for this President to finally come clean, is that too much to ask ?





Come clean??? About what? School records that NO ONE has to release? Why aren't you asking Mitt to "come clean?"

Oh, right, your derangement syndrome.



" Obama had a published bio, which flatly stated that he was NOT born in the United States, but in fact was Kenyan by birth. "


Your denial syndrome trumps ( pun intended ) any 'derangement' syndrome.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:11 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

My guess is that Trump already gives away more in charitable donations , to actual real causes, than Michelle and Obama make, combined.



My guess is that Obama has more wealth than Trump. Hell, it has been shown that many of the properties he is invested in he is a very small minority owner. They only use his name.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:12 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Quote:

Obama had a published bio, which flatly stated that he was NOT born in the United States, but in fact was Kenyan by birth.

Hahahahahaha! This again!

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:17 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Merely by mentioning them, I bet Trump has helped generate some extra donations already. PR never hurts, when you're looking to raise more $.


Maybe. I hope so. Still seems questionable to offer a conditional donation to charity. Doesn't speak highly of the person making the offer.

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:18 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

My guess is that Trump already gives away more in charitable donations , to actual real causes, than Michelle and Obama make, combined.



My guess is that Obama has more wealth than Trump. Hell, it has been shown that many of the properties he is invested in he is a very small minority owner. They only use his name.



Probably. Must be where he gets his Obama money from , huh?





" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:20 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
" Obama had a published bio, which flatly stated that he was NOT born in the United States, but in fact was Kenyan by birth. "

Your denial syndrome trumps ( pun intended ) any 'derangement' syndrome.



Which my little lair has been shown to be a mistake.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/booklet.asp

Even your hero Breitbart did not beleve it, his website had a disclamer.

Plus the person who published the Bio has stated that it was her fault and that the President never gave told her he was born in Keyna.

You have been told all this before you lying sack of crap.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:22 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Quote:

Obama had a published bio, which flatly stated that he was NOT born in the United States, but in fact was Kenyan by birth.

Hahahahahaha! This again!



Hell yeah, " this again ". There's no such smoking gun connected to Romney.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:24 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
" Obama had a published bio, which flatly stated that he was NOT born in the United States, but in fact was Kenyan by birth. "

Your denial syndrome trumps ( pun intended ) any 'derangement' syndrome.



Which my little lair has been shown to be a mistake.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/booklet.asp

Even your hero Breitbart did not beleve it, his website had a disclamer.

Plus the person who published the Bio has stated that it was her fault and that the President never gave told her he was born in Keyna.

You have been told all this before you lying sack of crap.



You're the one lying, here. And you're displaying unbelievably childish attitudes, because you know I'm right. The person who published this STILL WORKS FOR OBAMA!! Dumbass. Of COURSE they're still gonna cover his ass, by claiming it was THEIR mistake, not his.

Useless idiot.

*edit - And I call you liar because you ARE one. Breitbart never denied or dismissed the claim of the TRUE bio piece on Obama. He simply said it was more likely a case of Obama presenting himself differently at different times, and NOT any evidence of him being born in Kenya.



" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:30 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're the one lying, here. And you're displaying unbelievably childish attitudes, because you know I'm right. The person who published this STILL WORKS FOR OBAMA!! Dumbass. Of COURSE they're still gonna cover his ass, by claiming it was THEIR mistake, not his.



Prove that!

For one, she does not work for Obama. She does work for a publishing agency which list the President as a client. That is different than your claim, which is another lie in an attempt to make your case seem stronger than it is.

So prove that she and Obama are lying.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:33 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
*edit - And I call you liar because you ARE one. Breitbart never denied or dismissed the claim of the TRUE bio piece on Obama. He simply said it was more likely a case of Obama presenting himself differently at different times, and NOT any evidence of him being born in Kenya.





I never claimed that he did not think the bio was real, just that he did not think it proved the President was born in Kenya. Lean to read.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:37 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Copy your own posts as many times as you'd like, you're still the liar here.


*edit -
Quote:



Which my little lair has been shown to be a mistake.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/booklet.asp

Even your hero Breitbart did not beleve it, his website had a disclamer.



It was never SHOWN to be a " mistake ". The publisher simply came out, years after the fact, and did a CYA job, which only shows they're STILL getting paid by Obama. Which means, genius, that the publisher, working for which ever company, gets paid by Obama.

And nice attempt of recover your lie, by fabricating this straw man of what Breitbart CLAIMED. Disclaimer ? You posted no link to any such thing, all you did was post a link to snopes.com. Your straw man argument is laughable, that some how " even Breitbart " debunks a claim he never made. He was NEVER a birther, and that part of Obama's bio never really was anything but a clear indicator that he LIED in order to make himself appear more 'exotic' a writer than he'd be otherwise.

Which is why Trump wants to know if Obama indeed did get into college, as a foreign student, when in fact, he never was.

Good grief, you're a moron!



" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:40 AM

BYTEMITE


Y'know, that's a good idea, AURaptor. I'm going to donate to that charity in case Trump doesn't. Something is better than nothing.

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:44 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Y'know, that's a good idea, AURaptor. I'm going to donate to that charity in case Trump doesn't. Something is better than nothing.



Some good can come out of Trump being a dick head.

We can agree on something.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:24 PM

PEACEKEEPER

Keeping order in every verse


So.in your country, a president can be elected and invested by legal and valid means, even if there is a previous discrepancy regarding his legal right to run for office? Do you not think that this information would have to be provided to the appropriate body BEFORE being allowed to stand.That being the case, why exactly should any proof be required???
Can you also purchase and drive away a vehicle WITHOUT producing a driving license.Can you perform heart surgery without producing a medical qualification????
Trumposaurus has done no favour to the Republican cause. Obama has been in office for 4 years.It's a ridiculous state of affairs to try and question his legality to stand, now.
This is a sorry excuse for political propagandism.This is the ravings of an eccenric lunatic who is losing the plot.
I'm sorry, but anybody who believes that your own president has foregone legal and due process to stand for election, is way too obsessed with conspiracy theory for your own good.

With the grace of age, commander, we learn to accept.

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 2:01 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by peacekeeper:
Obama has been in office for 4 years.It's a ridiculous state of affairs to try and question his legality to stand, now.



No one IS questioning his legality.

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This is a sorry excuse for political propagandism. This is the ravings of an eccenric lunatic who is losing the plot.



It may very well be exactly that.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:12 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by peacekeeper:
Obama has been in office for 4 years.It's a ridiculous state of affairs to try and question his legality to stand, now.



No one IS questioning his legality.



No one? Really?

Not even Jerome Corse, who Romney credentialed as part of his press pool and put on his campaign plane?

NO ONE is questioning his legality?

Maybe you don't know what "No one" means.





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:18 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Why isn't he making the same offer to Romney for his tax returns for the last dozen years?

And where are Romney's school records and passport info?

Have any of you ever seen his birth certificate? And if not, why don't you think it's important that you haven't seen it?



Saw this comin'. And it's easy as hell to answer, too.

It's because there's no reason for Romney to do this, as there's no HINT of impropriety anywhere with him, unlike with Obama.





Romney flat-out LIED about where he lived on his taxes. And he flat-out LIED to reporters about it, and then had to correct himself and pay back taxes to "fix" his lie.

There's more than a "hint" of impropriety to it; there's an outright admission of it.

HE signed the tax forms. Is he not responsible for what HIS tax returns said about his place of residence?

Can you show me where on Obama's book-jacket blurb he signed the statements "under penalty of perjury"? Because Romney actually did sign his tax returns under that onus.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:20 PM

AURAPTOR

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No one.

Again, your context meter must be broken.

TRUMP is the one making the offer about Obama's transcripts, etc...

HE isn't claiming any legality issues.

Per usual, , you're just trying to phony up the issue, and turn it into something it isn't.


But, as always, I get that about you.


I really do.


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Romney flat-out LIED about where he lived on his taxes


Huh? He 'lived' on his taxes ? Please, do elaborate on that.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:20 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

My guess is that Trump already gives away more in charitable donations , to actual real causes, than Michelle and Obama make, combined.




And it's just that - a guess. We have no way of knowing, because Trump, like Romney, refuses to release his tax returns, although unlike Romney, he promised he would. He lied, of course, because that's what he does.





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:28 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Copy your own posts as many times as you'd like, you're still the liar here.


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Which my little lair has been shown to be a mistake.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/booklet.asp

Even your hero Breitbart did not beleve it, his website had a disclamer.



It was never SHOWN to be a " mistake ". The publisher simply came out, years after the fact, and did a CYA job, which only shows they're STILL getting paid by Obama. Which means, genius, that the publisher, working for which ever company, gets paid by Obama.




Is it your belief that publishers get paid by their writers and clients?





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:33 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
No one.

Again, your context meter must be broken.

TRUMP is the one making the offer about Obama's transcripts, etc...

HE isn't claiming any legality issues.



Isn't he? This same guy who had his private investigators all over Hawaii, and then claimed "You can't believe what they're finding" in regards to Obama's birth records?

He isn't claiming any legality issues?

That's ALL he's been claiming!

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Per usual, , you're just trying to phony up the issue, and turn it into something it isn't.



No, that would be Mr. Trump. I assure you, my hair is real.

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Romney flat-out LIED about where he lived on his taxes


Huh? He 'lived' on his taxes ? Please, do elaborate on that.




His tax returns. Elaborate enough for ya?


Or is your context meter broken?





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:43 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Isn't he? This same guy who had his private investigators all over Hawaii, and then claimed "You can't believe what they're finding" in regards to Obama's birth records?

He isn't claiming any legality issues?

That's ALL he's been claiming!



No, it isn't.

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His tax returns. Elaborate enough for ya?




No, not really. Tax returns ? Are you talking about $ he gave to the govt, which held it for a fiscal year, and then was given back to him, minus taxes owed, with zero interest ?

I thought their income was mainly from dividends on investments, cap gains and carried interest.


That wouldn't be living on his taxes. OR his tax returns.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:04 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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His tax returns. Elaborate enough for ya?




No, not really. Tax returns ? Are you talking about $ he gave to the govt, which held it for a fiscal year, and then was given back to him, minus taxes owed, with zero interest ?

I thought their income was mainly from dividends on investments, cap gains and carried interest.


That wouldn't be living on his taxes. OR his tax returns.




Wow.


I never thought one human could be this dumb.


On his tax returns (those forms you fill out and then send in to the IRS with your check, if you pay taxes), Romney lied about where he lived. His residency.

Sorry that's such a difficult concept for you to grasp. Maybe when you get to third grade you'll get it.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:40 PM

JONGSSTRAW



Greta had Trump on the phone tonight and she called him out rather forcefully. She said "$5 million is chump change to you, and if I was Obama I'd ask you to make it $100 million. Would you agree to that?" Trump answered "Greta, don't try to negotiate with me." Ultimately he said he would consider a higher amount if it was proposed to him. Then they went back and forth as to Trump's real reason for doing this thing now. The ensuing exchange covered the whole gamut of birther, bio book, passport, and school records dogma, and Greta was having the time of her life. She showed that sometimes playing both prosecutor and advocate can be quite entertaining.


Let's say it was upped to $100 million. Would there be any sort of pressure put on Obama by any of his base to do it for the sake of the charity(s)? Just curious. Personally I hope not. I hope no one would ever succomb to manipulative coersion despite the benefit it could provide. Our elections are already screwed up enough to have financial blackmail enter the fray.


I believe that Trump will end up giving that money, and likely more, to charity anyhow, if he wants any chance to salvage any measure of acceptability among rational people.

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:49 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



You " KNOW " that Romney lied on WHERE he lived when he filed his taxes, and yet some how, the IRS is oblivious to this information ??

Perhaps Mitt was given the Timmy Geithner pass?


Oh, wait... I think we'd have heard something bout all that.

Cites ?


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:53 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"Would there be any sort of pressure put on Obama by any of his base to do it for the sake of the charity(s)? Just curious."

I think Obama should counter that he will provide the information after the election. And that if he promises to do so, Trump should donate $100M. Yanno', 'cause Trump is only interested in the truth at any price.

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:55 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:


I believe that Trump will end up giving that money, and likely more, to charity anyhow, if he wants any chance to salvage any measure of acceptability among rational people.




Trump is working for himself, first and foremost.

I think this talk of giving to charity, although secondary to his concern, will end up netting ( cancer , aids, inner city kids ) some groups a bit more, out of sheer awareness raising alone. Trump's many things, but stupid isn't one of them. He's likely gaming the system, to benefit himself, but there's also a ' pay off ' too. It may be minuscule, in the grand scheme of things, but hell, in these times, any uptick in donations is a + .

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I think Obama should counter that he will provide the information after the election. And that if he promises to do so, Trump should donate $100M. Yanno', 'cause Trump is only interested in the truth at any price.


Oct 31st is the deadline Trump has set, I believe. 5 pm. 'After' the election defeats the purpose for Trump. Obama has basically had a free ride since being elected , and Trump wants to put the hottest spot light on him possible. That'd be to come clean BEFORE the election.

Obama would be foolish to pass this up. Seriously, to be able to take Trump's $, and then be seen as the one responsible for donating to x charity ( charities ), and possibly even matching Trump's offer ???

That alone would sway some " undecided " voters. It's a pure win/ win for Obama.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 6:05 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Copy your own posts as many times as you'd like, you're still the liar here.


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Which my little lair has been shown to be a mistake.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/booklet.asp

Even your hero Breitbart did not beleve it, his website had a disclamer.



It was never SHOWN to be a " mistake ". The publisher simply came out, years after the fact, and did a CYA job, which only shows they're STILL getting paid by Obama. Which means, genius, that the publisher, working for which ever company, gets paid by Obama.

And nice attempt of recover your lie, by fabricating this straw man of what Breitbart CLAIMED. Disclaimer ? You posted no link to any such thing, all you did was post a link to snopes.com. Your straw man argument is laughable, that some how " even Breitbart " debunks a claim he never made. He was NEVER a birther, and that part of Obama's bio never really was anything but a clear indicator that he LIED in order to make himself appear more 'exotic' a writer than he'd be otherwise.

Which is why Trump wants to know if Obama indeed did get into college, as a foreign student, when in fact, he never was.

Good grief, you're a moron!



Here is my full quote...

"Which my little lair has been shown to be a mistake.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/booklet.asp

Even your hero Breitbart did not beleve it, his website had a disclamer.

Plus the person who published the Bio has stated that it was her fault and that the President never gave told her he was born in Keyna."

See that last paragraph? It addresses the second part of your argument, that Obama could have lied. That means when I am speaking about Breitbart I'm still retorting the first part of your stupidity. Fuck man, reading comprehension is not a skill of yours.

Holy shit, I guess it would be easy to see strawmen when you have the comprehension skills of a three year old jello mold.

Now, I will ask again do you have any proof that he lied and this was not a mistake? If not you have nothing but your view and that of Breitbarts...which means you have something less that nothing.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Wednesday, October 24, 2012 6:15 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I guess you're blindly buying into the STORY that Obama had no clue that his publisher made a " mistake " on his Kenyan birth. It was the publisher, 100%, all by herself, not doing her job, not doing what it is that publishers routinely do for a living, that is fact check their client's bio.

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See that last paragraph? It addresses the second part of your argument, that Obama could have lied. That means when I am speaking about Breitbart I'm still retorting the first part of your stupidity. Fuck man, reading comprehension is not a skill of yours.



You're still not making any sense. Sorry. Either you've completely confused yourself, or you're still trying to carry on a lie which was baseless from the start, and instead of admitting you were wrong, you're lying more and more.

You refer to a claim by Breithbart ,but give no references, no citation, or quotes, at all. You hoist strawman upon strawman, and then double back and claim what was said could NEVER have been , when it was never claimed in the first place... .

Good grief. You've concocted a maze of BS so elaborate, you can't find your own way out.

Per Breitbart -
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It is evidence not of the President's foreign origin, but that Barack Obama's public persona has perhaps been presented differently at different time


THAT is all his site said. It never claimed that Obama was born in Kenya, nor was it doing any back tracking on that matter! Talk about reading comprehension fail !




Obama lied. Period, end of story.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:42 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I guess you're blindly buying into the STORY that Obama had no clue that his publisher made a " mistake " on his Kenyan birth. It was the publisher, 100%, all by herself, not doing her job, not doing what it is that publishers routinely do for a living, that is fact check their client's bio.

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See that last paragraph? It addresses the second part of your argument, that Obama could have lied. That means when I am speaking about Breitbart I'm still retorting the first part of your stupidity. Fuck man, reading comprehension is not a skill of yours.



You're still not making any sense. Sorry. Either you've completely confused yourself, or you're still trying to carry on a lie which was baseless from the start, and instead of admitting you were wrong, you're lying more and more.

You refer to a claim by Breithbart ,but give no references, no citation, or quotes, at all. You hoist strawman upon strawman, and then double back and claim what was said could NEVER have been , when it was never claimed in the first place... .

Good grief. You've concocted a maze of BS so elaborate, you can't find your own way out.

Per Breitbart -
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It is evidence not of the President's foreign origin, but that Barack Obama's public persona has perhaps been presented differently at different time


THAT is all his site said. It never claimed that Obama was born in Kenya, nor was it doing any back tracking on that matter! Talk about reading comprehension fail ! , nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "



Post were I claimed Breibart said Obama was born in Kenya or that Breitbart was back tracking.

You said that Obama was either being honest than, which means he was born in Kenya or that he is lying at the time. I brought up Breibart to address the first part, that the President was not infact born in Kenya. Than I address the second part pointing out that person who published the bio states it is a mistake.

Really you need to find a way to grow a brain. I can imagine it gets frustrating for you when people are blowing through your simplistic views really fast. Don't expect the rest of us to slow it down for you.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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