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Obama is not Carter; Romney is not Reagan

POSTED BY: NIKI2
UPDATED: Thursday, September 6, 2012 06:25
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Wednesday, September 5, 2012 6:51 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Having heard the diss that Obama is another Carter, I found this an excellent dissection of the statement
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This week, Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan leveled the ultimate insult at President Barack Obama. He said: "The Jimmy Carter years look like the good old days compared to where we are right now."

In the modern political era, comparing any Democratic (or Republican) president to Jimmy Carter is just about as nasty as a politician can get. The characterization of Carter might not be fair -- as many historians have started to look again at the accomplishments of his term, such as his initiatives on energy and his role in the peace treaty between Israel and Egypt -- but the poor state of the economy on his watch and trouble in Iran and Afghanistan left the Georgian as a symbol of incompetence and failed presidential leadership.

A different way to think about Ryan's statement is to ask a question, one that is equally relevant to Ryan and his future: What is the condition of the Republican Party compared with where it stood in 1980?

On this front, the comparison might not be so kind to the GOP. After all, when Carter's presidency ended, the Republicans had a number of up-and-coming political stars who would soon remake the political landscape, ranging from Newt Gingrich to Ronald Reagan, both in their prime.

Today, even with the promise of candidates such as New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and U.S. Rep. Ryan, it is unclear whether Republicans have the same kind of farm team ready to take over Washington.

Reagan expressed conservative ideas in a way that was appealing to a broad spectrum of the country and made the ideas of the right seem like a bridge to the future. Reagan displayed the kind of electoral savvy that was needed to hold together a diverse coalition even when there were significant differences over policy among Republicans. He could deflect attacks from his opponents with a turn of the phrase or even a quick smile.

Certainly, presidential candidate Mitt Romney has revealed the limits of his talent on the campaign trail and his difficulty articulating the same kind of compelling ideological agenda as his predecessors in 1980.

Another way in which Republicans are not doing as well is, ironically, a result of their success. After holding significant power in the White House or Congress for over three decades, Republicans can no longer claim the same kind of outsider status as they did when Reagan won office.

Since 1980, they are a party with a sizable record of their own -- a record that includes high levels of government spending, pork barrel politics, flawed military operations, corruption and unsuccessful economic policies. When Republicans talk about the problems with Washington, they must talk about the problems with themselves, not just Democrats. They even have a controversial president of their own, George W. Bush, who has come to symbolize failures of conservative leadership.

Finally, according to numerous analysts, demographics are no longer working in favor of Republicans. While in 1980 Republicans were riding the wave of a booming Sunbelt, Democrats can now look forward to the expanding minority vote, namely Hispanics, and the movement of highly educated voters into blue states.

So Ryan might be right that voters can feel a little of 1980 in 2012, given that the economic stagnation of today is reminiscent of the malaise in the late 1970s. But the GOP needs to be careful because their party is not in quite the same shape as it once was. and as a result, it might have a harder time repeating Reagan's success. http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/05/opinion/zelizer-carter-ryan/index.html?h
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I found the revision of opinion on Carter very interesting. I've long held him in high regard and felt the opinion generally accepted of him to be misleading, but never thought anyone would look back and change that opinion.

Also, Reagan KNEW HOW TO WORK WITH THE OTHER SIDE and did so many times. The current GOP has made the conscious decision to eliminate the word "compromise" from their dictionary and be just as oppositional as they possibly can. That's TONS different from how things were under Reagan.

Amusing I'd be defending the man I disrespected and disliked as Governor and disliked even MORE as President, but the fact, as many have said, is that he couldn't get elected on a BET today, and he and his party were far, far more rational and reasonable than today's GOP.

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Thursday, September 6, 2012 5:09 AM

MALACHITE


And that's not incense! (Sorry -- I couldn't resist...)

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Thursday, September 6, 2012 5:23 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Long time no see, Mala! Pardon my obtuseness, but could you explain please? That went over my head.


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Thursday, September 6, 2012 6:25 AM

STORYMARK


You have seen this little obscure sci-fi movie called.... Serenity right?




Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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