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Obama and FBI hacked 4-million computers without warrant, FBI will turn off your internet access on Monday, J Edgar Hoover buried in drag

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Friday, July 6, 2012 10:28 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

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Friday, July 6, 2012 10:59 AM

BYTEMITE


Glory of h4xxr00t, people have craptastic internet security sense.

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Friday, July 6, 2012 1:18 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Speaking of such issues and govt tinkering with hacks and virus, since it's been all but admitted we created stuxnet (and doin stuff like this WILL come back to haunt, believe it), here's something else to think about.

The rigged software and designed to fail components we'd shoveled onto the market long before that - ya ever wonder if maybe WE share some responsibility for what happened at Chernobyl ?

Remember this is the same govt which flooded the market with poisoned alcohol during prohibition, if one thinks doing such a thing would be beyond the pale even for them.

And in all cases like this, had a private company knowingly sold defective components with the INTENTION to harm their customers - they'd be held pretty goddamn liable.

So where then, is our liability ?
*points to wreckage of WTC*
THAT, right there.

You DO shit to people, people DO shit to you.
Ain't simpler than that.

-Frem

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Sunday, July 8, 2012 2:09 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY


See ya Monday.

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Sunday, July 8, 2012 5:31 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Microsoft was written with backdoors in it for the NSA. So was Apple code. That- and terribly sloppy coding on the part of Microsoft- is why the systems can never be entirely secured. Use Debian Linux... your PC will never be compromised unless you allow it.

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Sunday, July 8, 2012 3:23 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




Even the Hooters girls write virus code for the US Air Farce.

What's the world coming to?


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Sunday, July 8, 2012 3:35 PM

1KIKI

Today, scientists sound the alarm on other environmental dangers. Vested interests still hire their own scientists to confuse the issue. But in the end, nature will not be fooled. Neil deGrasse Tyson


The one bottom row second from the right - look at her face. Holy crap. Is anyone home?



SignyM: I swear, if we really knew what was being decided about us in our absence, and how hosed the government is prepared to let us be, we would string them up.

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Sunday, July 8, 2012 4:00 PM

WISHIMAY

"Well, so long Earth...Thanks for the air... and what-not" -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
The one bottom row second from the right - look at her face. Holy crap. Is anyone home?



Don't think that quite matters to a guy...

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Sunday, July 8, 2012 5:35 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Don't think that quite matters to a guy...


Oddly enough, it does - leastways to me.
Of course, what matters MORE is whether a stout and kind heart beats beneath whatever bosom they possess.
I got mocked for this, by of all people, my Ex.
"But she has a mean disposition, and a face like a boar!"
"You're looking at her face, really ??!!"
"Well yes, it's the part I am most likely to SEE all day, hell-O?!"

Beats me why folk think otherwise, but maybe I am just weird like that.

-F

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Sunday, July 8, 2012 5:59 PM

BYTEMITE


I dunno, I think Goofy Smiles seems to have the most personality in that picture. The rest have Generic Bored Fake Smile.

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Sunday, July 8, 2012 7:17 PM

WISHIMAY

"Well, so long Earth...Thanks for the air... and what-not" -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Oddly enough, it does - leastways to me.



Ohh, Frem-ikins, I wasn't referring to you....
Jack maybe
But I think at this point we all need to chip in and buy Jack a girl... JACK- WHEN YER DONE, HOSE HER OFF, 'K?? PIRATENEWS LIKES SLOPPY SECONDS...

So are we all still here?? It's well after midnight and I'm 'puter-ing away...
Until PN shuts mine down after that last comment, of course

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Sunday, July 8, 2012 11:01 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Bah, they're all too skinny for me anyways.
I mean, goofy smile chick, her effing RIBS ARE STICKING OUT, eeeeyuuuuck!
The one second from left with the CLEARLY visible jutting hip joint is appalling too.
Plus, see, there's this little rise just below the navel that so many women whine about, and fashion mags seem to have convinced them they must lose ?
IT'S SUPPOSED TO FUCKING BE THERE!
For me that extremity of adherence to fashion is as grim and disconcerting as hacking the nose off your face, or one of your limbs, for a FASHION STATEMENT, it's.. it's.. I dunno, they look more like freakin plastic aliens to me than human beings.

And when I wanna jump some bones, I don't wanna jump BONES literally, besides being morbidly repulsive it's also damned uncomfortable - not to mention less than healthy.
Hell, gimme Lillian Russel, Betty Page, Vera Ellen, even Betty Grable....
You can keep Twiggy.



That right there folks, is IMHO the finest set o gams the world ever saw, and failed to appreciate, and not only that, the lady could *DANCE*, she freaking WORE OUT Fred Astaire and left him "gasping like a landed fish" and she wasn't even winded, seriously.

I have ever held a grudge that her poor health and eventual death was hastened by hollywoods changing standards and their constant press for her to lose weight, as they seemed to not comprehend nor care that the muscle to dance like that REQUIRED a certain amount of bulk, and to try to do one without the other was suicidal.

Seriously, THIS!



I mean, lookatit, she's NOT EVEN OUT OF BREATH.
*sigh*

They just don't make em like that no more.

-Frem

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Monday, July 9, 2012 3:29 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

JACK- WHEN YER DONE, HOSE HER OFF, 'K?? PIRATENEWS LIKES SLOPPY SECONDS...


I disapprove. I disapprove so hard that my breakfast ALSO disapproves.

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Monday, July 9, 2012 3:38 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Plus, see, there's this little rise just below the navel that so many women whine about, and fashion mags seem to have convinced them they must lose ?


Yeah, I dunno about that one. That's an indication of poor abdominal tone, and the pressure of the intestines is pushing out against the wall of the cavity. Also, if you have that, you're likely to get major back problems because of same lack of tone, and it also makes you look preggers.

When I can exercise more, I intend to get rid of it just because I have waking dreams about getting stabbed or shot in the middle and my guts exploding everywhere. Oh to be uploaded into robotic circuitry and not have to worry about this nonsense.

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Monday, July 9, 2012 4:16 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello Frem,

Not too long ago I read a book... I want to say it was Legacy of Ashes, but it could have been one about the Cold War whose title now escapes me...

Anyway, the U.S. arranged for defective technology to get into Soviet hands. I want to say that the technology in question had something to do with computers that control oil flow, but my swiss cheese memory could be mistaken on particulars.

Ah... here we go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_pipeline_sabotage


So your musings about the U.S. possibly being responsible for things like Chernobyl isn't just crazy talk.

--Anthony



Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

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Monday, July 9, 2012 8:06 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY


Sooo, my internet access was'nt turned off, and I'm guessing nor was anyone elses.
So basically PIRATENEWS was talking BULLSHIT once again.

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Monday, July 9, 2012 8:34 AM

BYTEMITE


Well, no, this was a real thing, PN was just more exaggerating the possible range of affected computers and the impact. And speculating that the source wasn't what was being reported, which is possible, but we can't prove it.

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Monday, July 9, 2012 9:14 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, OldEngland, it was pretty much a mountain made out of a molehill...and we know how much PN ADORES such mountains and adds a few more meters to them just for good measure. As usual, he took something and ran with it:
Quote:

According to the FBI, the number of computers that probably are infected is more than 277,000 worldwide, down from about 360,000 in April. About 64,000 still-infected computers are probably in the United States.
People were warned to check if their computer was infected and how to fix it--it was only the people who had yet to make the fix who would be affected today. It's about your IP address, there's something out there called "DNSChanger malware" which has changed IP addresses, and the FBI was fixing it, which would cause computers with the DNSChanger IP addresses to crash.

There's a pdf that explains it all, and how to check if your computer was affected (which is unimportant now, since if it WAS infected, the computer has already crashed this morning) at http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/november/malware_110911/DNS-chang
er-malware.pdf

Essentially the only computers that would be affected are those with the following IP addresses:

85.255.112.0 through 85.255.127.255
67.210.0.0 through 67.210.15.255
93.188.160.0 through 93.188.167.255
77.67.83.0 through 77.67.83.255
213.109.64.0 through 213.109.79.255
64.28.176.0 through 64.28.191.255

So for some people it will be a problem, but for the vast majorit of us, it's totally unimportant.

As to whatever else is in this thread, it's just PN's usual idiocy, so I ignored it.

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Monday, July 9, 2012 9:22 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Just FYI to those who care, here's the story:
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It's been impossible to go online or turn on a TV Monday without seeing all the breathless chatter about the "Doomsday" for the Internet, when hundreds of thousands of people were expected to abruptly lose their connection to the world's computer brain.

But what caused the "Malware Monday" panic, and is it really warranted?

Here's a quick-and-dirty guide to what's going on:

In November, the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation charged seven people in connection with a "massive and sophisticated Internet fraud scheme" called Operation Ghost Click.

That scam tampered with the way computers access the Web by sending Internet traffic to websites that people didn't intend to visit. The group made money -- $14 million, according to the FBI -- off of fraudulent advertisements on those websites.

The FBI eventually shut down the computers that were used to reroute Internet traffic. That move would have essentially cut access to the Internet for those people who had the DNSChanger malware on their systems. So, as a backup, the FBI turned on its own computers to make sure infected machines still would have Internet access.

On Monday, the FBI turned off those backup computer servers. That means machines infected with the DNSChanger malware -- or that have traces of that malicious computer program left on their computers -- no longer can access the Internet as expected.

About 211,000 machines -- only 42,000 of them in the United States -- were infected Monday, according to CNNMoney.

Maybe that sounds like a lot. But, at its peak, 4 million computers were "hijacked" by the malware, according to the FBI. That's 19 times the number of computers currently infected.

"That's a large number, but it's a very small subset of the 1.6 billion PCs worldwide, of which an estimated 339 million are in the United States," CNNMoney writes.

Education campaigns are thought to have accounted for the difference. Google, Facebook and the U.S. government have created tools to help people notice if their machines have the DNSChanger malware.More at

That's about it, despite all the hooplah.


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Monday, July 9, 2012 9:27 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I disapprove. I disapprove so hard that my breakfast ALSO disapproves.



This always makes me think of you...



Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Oh to be uploaded into robotic circuitry and not have to worry about this nonsense.


You too eh ?

Freaky moment from talking with doctor Call-me-Larry...
(representative image included, the guy is CREEPY)


We were discussing how much of my body we could get away with successfully cyborging if it came to it, and he starts ticking it off on his fingers, thus proving he ACTUALLY PUT THOUGHT INTO THIS!
He's freaky, but yanno, I think imma have him filed as my primary provider, he's just crazy enough to be damn useful.

Quote:

Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
Anyway, the U.S. arranged for defective technology to get into Soviet hands. I want to say that the technology in question had something to do with computers that control oil flow, but my swiss cheese memory could be mistaken on particulars.

Ah... here we go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_pipeline_sabotage

So your musings about the U.S. possibly being responsible for things like Chernobyl isn't just crazy talk.


Despite folks who should damn well know better instantly dismissing stuff out of hand, very rarely is much I say speculation, and when it is I usually point that out.

That was not the half of the various forms of cold-war chicanery we indulged in, and would that I could recall offhand where I came across the info that we were trying to put similarly sabotaged nuclear plant components in their logistics in much the same fashion, cause I am pretty sure it was documented somewhere, but good luck finding it so long after the fact.

Of course, I am heartily sick of the Cassandra gig, and more prone to not bother telling people any goddamn thing any more since they'll dismiss it out of hand despite a track record accurate enough to be worth minding, and then come back whining when it's too late begging for advice after enabling things by their own actions - only to not only ignore that advice, but also dismiss the NEXT warning out of hand without a thought as well.
Ergo, why the hell should I bother, you know ?

-Frem

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Monday, July 9, 2012 9:53 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Lil more detail on this sorta thing.

Tech sabotage during the Cold War
http://fcw.com/Articles/2004/04/26/Tech-sabotage-during-the-Cold-War.a
spx?sc_lang=en&p=1

Quote:

During the fall of 1981, one of my National Security Council associates, Dr. Gus Weiss, was cleared to read the material. He devised a remarkable plan: "Why not help the Soviets with their shopping? Now that we know what they want, we can help them get it." There would be just one catch: The CIA would add "extra ingredients" to the software and hardware on the KGB's shopping list. Weiss presented the plan to Casey in December 1981, and Casey took it to the President in January 1982. Notably absent from the meeting were any of the White House's strong believers in détente.

Reagan received the plan enthusiastically; Casey was given a "go." There were no written memoranda reflecting that meeting, or for that matter, the whole project, for many in the intelligence community were concerned about the security of the new, computerized, internal NSC communication system.

Within a few months, the shipments began. The Weiss project targeted the Soviet military/industrial needs as set forth in the Farewell dossier. "Improved" — that is to say, erratic — computer chips were designed to pass quality-acceptance tests before entry into Soviet service. Only later would they sporadically fail, frazzling the nerves of harried users. Pseudosoftware disrupted factory output. Flawed but convincing ideas on stealth, attack aircraft and space defense made their way into Soviet ministries.


So no, it wasn't JUST the pipeline, although that was the most obvious and immediate result, yes.
Remember also that the Soviets were kinda desperate for Nuclear Submarines, and that CERTAINLY would have been in their shopping list - someone with a keen memory might by now have realized I know a wee bit more about Sub operations during that period than I really should, and for a fact we were fronting similarly "improved" nuclear components, so one has to wonder just how much responsibility we might bear not only for Chernobyl, but also many of the sub accidents we might be complicit in, the worst of those being the K-19 aka "hiroshima", as it was known to the poor souls who crewed it.

What concerns me is how that might come back on us - just imagine if some of these flawed components we're dumping on the international market say, got bought up on the cheap by a subsidary of KBR and then used in OUR reactors ?
Or some neutral or otherwise uninvolved party for that matter.

This is a grossly irresponsible and dangerous policy all the way around, and always has been.

-Frem

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Monday, July 9, 2012 10:45 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:


This always makes me think of you...



Eh, it's okay, I couldn't write reaction posts like that anymore if you guys stopped saying pervy stuff, and that would be a shame.

Though there is usually a genuine moment of bleurgh preceding such a post.

Quote:

You too eh ?


The only problem is I do start thinking of ghost in the shell issues, and whether my mind could be hacked or influenced if it were electronic. But a fleshy cranium has it's major downsides too.

Maybe the best best is to be a freeroaming AI in the global network. Untraceable and unable to be pinned down.

Quote:

would that I could recall offhand where I came across the info that we were trying to put similarly sabotaged nuclear plant components in their logistics in much the same fashion


Yeah, wouldn't surprise me.



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Monday, July 9, 2012 12:35 PM

WISHIMAY

"Well, so long Earth...Thanks for the air... and what-not" -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
...and that would be a shame.




Yes, yes it would. Yer reactions are always good for a giggle
You do realize I'm fair game too, right?? I shudder to think what it would actually take, but good luck...

I wanna be a foglet!!! No nuts 'n bolts... but Tornadoes would get a lot more interesting...

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