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FEINSTEIN: 'I'VE NEVER SEEN WORSE' INTELLIGENCE LEAKS

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:39 AM

AURAPTOR

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Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D., Calif.) said Wednesday she has “never seen it worse” regarding recent national security leaks in a series of reported stories that contained sensitive national security details. ...

The House and Senate Intelligence Committees announced Wednesday they would draft new laws concerning leaks of classified and sensitive information. Feinstein is chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

"I am deeply disturbed by the continuing leaks of classified information to the media, most recently regarding alleged cyber efforts targeting Iran’s nuclear program," (she said).

Read more: http://times247.com/articles/feinstein-i-ve-never-seen-worse-intel-lea
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Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:01 AM

WHOZIT


The press will ignore this no matter who complains.

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:20 AM

CHRISISALL


Meh, so what. Non issue IMO. Anything that needs to be kept secret usually is something that the public A) should know, and B) won't seriously care about anyway. Also, it sometimes means the black boys are up to no good, or taxpayer dollars are being wasted on getting intel like the great stuff we got from Curveball. Or intentional mis-information leaks.

It's all a game.




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Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:06 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Your source is a known right-wing shill piece, Rappy, and therefore the whole article is dismissed.


Hey, that's how you roll, right?



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Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:03 PM

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Chris

It's NOT just a game. Had you been following the details, not only does this put the US in a bad light, it also makes it harder for our own allies to trust us. If we're going to betray THEIR trust, why should they stick their necks out to help us ?

And yes, Kwickie. Diane Feinstein is a true, far Right wing chicken hawk, isn't she ?

Idiot.


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Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:41 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Onama is the leak. Arrest him now. Try him in gitmo, find him guilty, then kill him until his head pops off. If its good enuff for Saddam Hussein, its good enuff for Hussein Obama.

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New York Times: Obama Ordered the Stuxnet Attack on Iran

Obama asked his national security advisers whether the attack should be halted at a White House Situation Room meeting convened days after the virus “escaped”, but decided to intensify it instead.

Commentators suggested that confirmation of American involvement in Stuxnet had been released by others to neutralize any Republican election claims that President Obama has been soft on Iran.

“Obama wanted to get credit for Stuxnet, as that makes him look tough against Iran,” said Mikko Hypponen, chief research officer at F-Secure, one of the security firms that have investigated Stuxnet. “And he needs that as Presidential elections are coming.”

The report comes several days after Iranian security experts reported that Flame, a virus far more dangerous than the Stuxnet worm, struck the country's computer systems.

The virus, described by the Kaspersky Internet security firm as the “most sophisticated cyber-weapon yet unleashed”, struck at least 600 specific computer systems in Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Sudan, Saudi Arabia and the Palestinian Authority.

Iran later admitted that its oil industry was briefly affected by Flame, but claimed that Iranian experts had detected and defeated the virus.

It is not known who was behind the virus, but Vice Prime Minister Moshe Ya'alon appeared to hint in a radio interview Tuesday that Israel is behind the malware.

Asked about the attack, Ya'alon told IDF Radio: “Whoever sees the Iranian threat as a meaningful threat – it is reasonable he would take various measures, including this one.”

“Israel has been blessed with being a state rich in top level high-tech. These tools that we take pride in open up various possibilities for us,” he added.

The semi-official Iranian news agency Fars seized upon Ya’alon's statements as proof that Israel engineered the Flame virus.

“The Vice Prime Minister of the Zionist regime admitted the role of the regime in creating the virus Flame for cyber espionage in the Middle East, and especially in Iran,” Fars stated. "Moshe Ya’alon's statements today are an additional confirmation of Israel's role in developing the malicious program.”

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/156451
http://techland.time.com/2012/06/01/report-obama-israel-behind-stuxnet
-worm-and-accelerated-iran-cyberattacks
/



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Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:59 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
It's NOT just a game.

Yes it is. A dangerous game, but a game nonetheless.
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Had you been following the details, not only does this put the US in a bad light,
However could this put us in any worse kind of light than our Iraq goof? Not possible.
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it also makes it harder for our own allies to trust us.
They work with us sometimes; no one truly trusts us, and with good reason.
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If we're going to betray THEIR trust, why should they stick their necks out to help us
Profit & power, same as always.
There's a small national security angle as well, but if that was a real priority, 9-11 would never have happened.

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:08 PM

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Chris.

You're looking at this through purely partisan eyes.

The Iraq 'goof' wasn't an issue of leaked intel. You go tell Diane Feinstein about how this isn't any big deal, or not all that much different. She's no 'right winger', and even she can't cover up for this - who EVER it is that's leaking this stuff.

Sorry, but I can't follow your tin foil hat comments on what was the cause of 9-11. This is NOW, and the leaks recently coming are of a current nature, not drudging up things from the past. If you can't / won't deal with the very real issues of the present, then you're really not comprehending what is going on.




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Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:15 PM

HKCAVALIER


Okay, this is the biggest, b.s., nonsensical conspiracy theory of all time. There is absolutely no reason for the Obama Admin. to purposefully leak this stuff, and every reason not to. No Democratic President in my lifetime has been as outright hawkish as Barack Obama. He got OBL killed, for chrissakes. If that didn't settle the issue, no amount of leaking of sensative intel will do it. And, hello, this amount of leak can do nothing but damage his reputation, anyway. No way does he have to commit this kind of crime just so folks will think he's tough on fer'ners. There is no reason for his admin. to leak this information. There is no way that this does not look bad for President Obama.

Sure, it's the worst Feinstein has seen, not because Obama's leaking this stuff, but because information is becoming less and less secure, period. Hello, wikileaks, hello, anonymous. Systems can be hacked. As the technology becomes more and more available, more and more private citizens and organizations have access to the best gear. It's a sign of the times. Obama would have to be a moron to think, "Gee, I better shore up my national security cred by letting the world know that I'm attacking Iran." He may be a lot of things, but he ain't a moron. And he has proven that he and his know perfectly well how to run a campaign and this clearly is not how ya do it.

Anybody who floats this b.s. conspiracy is a buffoon.

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:19 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Sorry, but I can't follow your tin foil hat comments on what was the cause of 9-11.

Post deleted because it is illogical to have an emotional response when a blind man cannot see.

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:27 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Sorry, but I can't follow your tin foil hat comments on what was the cause of 9-11.

Fuck you. You can't follow shit. I don't know why I keep trying. You STILL don't know the cause of 9-11, you STILL don't know why we went into Iraq, and IT'S ALL OUT THERE TO BE LEARNED, but you won't learn it. You blame Obama for a slip of the tongue (mind) but you blame no rightie for TORTURE & DEATH!!!! I say Obama is a stupid politician at best, & a scumbag at worst, and you STILL call him Mr. Wonderful like we should be personally insulted or something!!
You are just too disconnected, man.
You don't even TRY.

Peace, out.



Yeah, I'm pretty sure I know what 9/11 was all about, Chrissy, But THIS issue isn't about that, at all. Obama made no 'slip of the tongue', as you put it. And that's the point that's so infuriating to me, that YOU can't / won't see Obama for his true self.

Feinstein's " never seen it worse " remark still can't seem to put a dent in your reality helmet, you have shoved so tightly over your eyes.

*sigh*

HK - Ms Feinstein isn't BLAMING Obama for this, but simply stating the seriousness of these leaks.

Can't you at LEAST acknowledge that much ?



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Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:48 PM

HKCAVALIER


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
HK - Ms Feinstein isn't BLAMING Obama for this, but simply stating the seriousness of these leaks.

Can't you at LEAST acknowledge that much ?

Wasted asshattery. I was responding to PN.

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:52 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:

I was responding to PN.

HKCavalier



I generally ignore PN, and those responses directed towards PN.

Pardon for the mishap.


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Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:58 PM

HKCAVALIER


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:

I was responding to PN.

HKCavalier



I generally ignore PN, and those responses directed towards PN.

Pardon for the mishap.

Just don't let it happen again.

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Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 2:44 PM

BYTEMITE


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There is absolutely no reason for the Obama Admin. to purposefully leak this stuff


...Military intelligence does just fine all by themselves. *rim shot*

But seriously, these aren't leaks. No one ever confirmed that Israel had programmed a virus to attack the Iranian nuclear program. Well until NOW, anyway. Good going there, guys, they won't crack that one.

Basically people used logic and connected the dots. It's called JOURNALISM, which is something of a lost art.

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 3:14 PM

HKCAVALIER


Yes. News is the stuff they don't want you to know about. Everything else is advertising.

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 4:25 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
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There is absolutely no reason for the Obama Admin. to purposefully leak this stuff


...Military intelligence does just fine all by themselves. *rim shot*

But seriously, these aren't leaks. No one ever confirmed that Israel had programmed a virus to attack the Iranian nuclear program. Well until NOW, anyway. Good going there, guys, they won't crack that one.

Basically people used logic and connected the dots. It's called JOURNALISM, which is something of a lost art.



I'm sort of at a loss as to how folks aren't seeing this as a severe leak problem, and are so willing to casually dismiss it as 'business as usual'. After all the fuss over over the Val Plame NON leak case, where a desk jockey was outted by herself, and then some in the media whipped up a story to blame the Bush administration over, where's the outrage over this ?

There seems to be bi-partisan concern here, at least. Why the media is so cavalier about it all, mystifies me.


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Sunday, June 10, 2012 5:01 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I'm sort of at a loss

Alert us when something is new, okay?

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 5:32 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I'm sort of at a loss

Alert us when something is new, okay?



I just took some folks here, you included, to being smarter than to be so blindly partisan, than to deny that THIS is a serious breech of security.

I admit. I was wrong.




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Sunday, June 10, 2012 6:14 PM

BYTEMITE


Maybe if the not-leaks weren't about a nation of jerks doing underhanded nonsense to another nation of jerks, and potentially setting a precedence for future cyberattacks with very dangerous and infrastructure damaging viruses that we probably should both know about and know where they come from, I would care more.

But since they are, I'm all out of sympathy for pretty much all of them. Israel doesn't like that the world found out about their shenanigans? Best news I've heard all day.

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 6:14 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I admit. I was wrong.


Were I a powerless little man on the inside, I might take this out of context as part of my sig to prove something to myself...

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 6:16 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:

But since they are, I'm all out of sympathy for pretty much all of them.

I'm right there with ya, Byte.

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:03 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Maybe if the not-leaks weren't about a nation of jerks doing underhanded nonsense to another nation of jerks, and potentially setting a precedence for future cyberattacks with very dangerous and infrastructure damaging viruses that we probably should both know about and know where they come from, I would care more.

But since they are, I'm all out of sympathy for pretty much all of them. Israel doesn't like that the world found out about their shenanigans? Best news I've heard all day.



Because cyber hi-jinx to stop or slow down the threat of thermonuclear hi-jinx, is such a big fucking deal, huh?

And 'Israel's' shenanigans ? How about OUR shenanigans.




Priorities... some folks have 'em all out of whack.



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Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:43 PM

BYTEMITE


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Because cyber hi-jinx to stop or slow down the threat of thermonuclear hi-jinx, is such a big fucking deal, huh?

And 'Israel's' shenanigans ? How about OUR shenanigans.



When someone uses those viruses to halt our centrifuges, the irony will be incredible. I wonder when they'll go after the incinerators used to disposes of our really nasty weapons, make them malfunction, spread nerve agent everywhere.

I'll feel very safe then.

AURaptor, Israel just paid someone to invent THE most DANGEROUS weapon in the entire world, and we don't know who's got their hands on it now. In terms of danger, nuclear technology doesn't even come close.

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:58 PM

AURAPTOR

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Dabbling a bit in hyperbole, perhaps?




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Monday, June 11, 2012 1:48 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Dabbling a bit in hyperbole, perhaps?




Of course you are, but we're all used to it.

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Monday, June 11, 2012 2:17 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Dabbling a bit in hyperbole, perhaps?




Of course you are, but we're all used to it.




I'm not, I was referring to the comment...AURaptor, Israel just paid someone to invent THE most DANGEROUS weapon in the entire world, and we don't know who's got their hands on it now. In terms of danger, nuclear technology doesn't even come close.

Diane Feinstein is the one who said she's never seen worse. You wanna accuse her of hyperbole, at least get the source right.


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Monday, June 11, 2012 3:53 AM

BYTEMITE


That really wasn't hyperbole AU. I do in fact think it's more dangerous than a nuclear weapon. Hell, we have conventional explosions that are more dangerous than a nuclear weapon, and this virus is obviously more dangerous than those too.

If it can stop centrifuges in Iran, it can stop centrifuges here. If modified versions can be tailored to stop any computerized machine of a specific make, it can be targeted at machines that would cause a widespread disaster if they were shut down (my incinerator point), and it could also be modified to attack power plants (including nuclear power plants, which crosses over with point 2).

A concentrated effort with these viruses directed at multiple different targets could cripple an entire industry, and IF they were targeted at various key power plants on the grid, a first world nation could be taken back to the stone age.

This thing is bad news.

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Monday, June 11, 2012 4:36 AM

DREAMTROVE


DiFi is whining about us not attacking iran for the glory of israel. what else is new?


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Monday, June 11, 2012 5:03 AM

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Wasted asshattery
Yeah, but if were about Repubs, Raptor would no reason to post it!

Keep insisting about DiFi all you want, I know what she's doing, and it has nothing to do with what she's saying. We've known her for far longer than most of you. And do remember she's the Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman...


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Monday, June 11, 2012 6:38 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
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Wasted asshattery

Yeah, but if were about Repubs, Raptor would no reason to post it!



Actually, Niki, this is about national security, which trumps party affiliation. Or should. Pity that you don't see it that way.


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Monday, June 11, 2012 6:53 AM

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Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, Peter King (R-NY), sat down with Jamie Colby today on America’s News HQ to discuss the investigation into the leaks on counter-terrorism programs. Congressman King said, “This is the most shameful cascade of leaks I’ve ever heard or seen in government. We’re not talking about an incidental leak coming out … We’re talking about leaks involving two of the most sensitive programs in the United States government.”


He said it’s “clear” from those stories published in The New York Times that the information “came from the White House, came right from the National Security Council, came right from the Situation Room.” Rep. King continued, “For the president to say he’s outraged by this … how come he said nothing about it until a few of us, including John McCain, stood up and took him to task for it.”


http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/06/10/rep-peter-king-national-security-
leaks-came-from-the-white-house
/


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Monday, June 11, 2012 9:51 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
this is about national security, which trumps party affiliation. Or should.

Nothing trumps party affiliation. Nothing. You and Fox News have proven that.

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Monday, June 11, 2012 11:14 AM

HKCAVALIER


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, Peter King (R-NY), sat down with Jamie Colby today on America’s News HQ to discuss the investigation into the leaks on counter-terrorism programs. Congressman King said, “This is the most shameful cascade of leaks I’ve ever heard or seen in government. We’re not talking about an incidental leak coming out … We’re talking about leaks involving two of the most sensitive programs in the United States government.”


He said it’s “clear” from those stories published in The New York Times that the information “came from the White House, came right from the National Security Council, came right from the Situation Room.” Rep. King continued, “For the president to say he’s outraged by this … how come he said nothing about it until a few of us, including John McCain, stood up and took him to task for it.”


http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/06/10/rep-peter-king-national-security-
leaks-came-from-the-white-house
/

Oh, so now you're all for the idiotic conspiracy. Why am I not shocked?

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Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Monday, June 11, 2012 11:42 AM

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Nothing trumps party affiliation. Nothing. You and Fox News have proven that.
Yeah, Chris...amusing, isn't it? With no knowledge whatsoever of what I know or whether it's pro-DiFi or anti-DiFi, or pro-Obama or anti-Obama, he jumps to his usual conclusion and runs with it. Makes me giggle, he does.

Hint: I'm no fan of DiFi...many of us aren't. We've known her for a long time and, although I appreciate some of the stands she takes (when she takes them) and mostly how she votes, I and many other Californians are fully aware that her words and actions are as often as not politically expediency. He can figure it out for himself. Or go on assuming, makes no difference to me...just makes me giggle.

This whole thread is only important to Raptor so he could put it up as part of his partisan jihad. Wouldn't interest him otherwise, we all know that. Yours is the salient point: Partisanship trumps ALL, where he's concerned. I guess he didn't notice that only 61% of Democrats (only 82 of 208) voted for the war--the same percentage of Americans who said just days before the invasion that they were ready for such an invasion "in the next week or two." (wiki), while all but EIGHT Republicans voted for it (and two of those were "no vote")...I guess that makes some kind of point...like maybe, knowing what they did, the Dems reflected the American people while the Repubs happily followed where Dubya led?


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Monday, June 11, 2012 11:43 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
this is about national security, which trumps party affiliation. Or should.

Nothing trumps party affiliation. Nothing. You and Fox News have proven that.



Me and FOX news ? What about nearly the full Dem party, being for the war in Iraq, before being against it ?

Idiot.

@ HK

Huh? Conspiracy theory ? What the F are you even talking about ? I posted what the Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, Peter King said, from an interview. That's all.





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Monday, June 11, 2012 11:58 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


YOOO HOOO

Little Rappy ...

Are you avoiding something?


Here's the link from that thread you just didn't understand.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=52174

And to make it perfectly clear to others what the question was about that you keep ducking (if not to you):

here is SignyM's post
Tax the ultra-wealthy...a lot.

here is your post:
Yeah, Carter TRIED that, how'd that work out for him ?

here is the chart showing Nixon AND Ford TRIED taxing the wealthy, while Carter LOWERED axes on the wealthy (cap gains):


and here is your post where you lied about what you posted:
I never said Carter raised taxes ...

So, let's take it back to the thread where it belongs.

How is it that you don't criticize Nixon and Ford, who taxed the wealthy greatly, but blame Carter for 'trying' high taxes on the wealthy when he lowered them?

And btw that lowering of taxes - how'd that work out for him?

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Monday, June 11, 2012 12:04 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Idiot.





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Monday, June 11, 2012 12:07 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



That's not lying, sorry. You still seem confused at that concept. It's really not that tricky.

The economies under Ford and Carter weren't identical, were they ? I was little, so I don't recall. But maybe had Ford cut taxes, like Reagan wanted to in '76, he'd have been elected and we'd never had the mistake of Carter in the first place.

But enough of that side track. Carter maintained ( tried ) high personal income taxes. That didn't work out too well, did it ?

I never said he RAISED them, did I?

I didn't lie. Sorry. You fail.


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Monday, June 11, 2012 12:12 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I didn't lie. Sorry. You fail.


Just like with Miss Wombat. She would have failed you, but she didn't want to see you in her class the following year.

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Monday, June 11, 2012 12:22 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:




Note how Chrissy replies when proven wrong. He doesn't even attempt to make his case, he just posts a pic of himself crying.

Sad.

Even more sad, is how he uses that same pic in 2 different threads, attempting to make the same, ridiculous statement.


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Monday, June 11, 2012 12:26 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Note how Chrissy replies when proven wrong. He doesn't even attempt to make his case, he just posts a pic of himself crying.

So stop upsetting me!

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Monday, June 11, 2012 12:30 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Note how Chrissy replies when proven wrong. He doesn't even attempt to make his case, he just posts a pic of himself crying.

So stop upsetting me!



A happy, giggly Chris is to the benefit of all. I know.


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