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Friday, April 27, 2012 4:39 AM

CAVETROLL


Concealed weapon carrier stops crime.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/conceal-and-carry-s
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SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - A citizen with a gun stopped a knife wielding man as he began stabbing people Thursday evening at the downtown Salt Lake City Smith's store.


Police say the suspect purchased a knife inside the store and then turned it into a weapon. Smith's employee Dorothy Espinoza says, "He pulled it out and stood outside the Smiths in the foyer. And just started stabbing people and yelling you killed my people. You killed my people."

Espinoza says, the knife wielding man seriously injured two people. "There is blood all over. One got stabbed in the stomach and got stabbed in the head and held his hands and got stabbed all over the arms."

Then, before the suspect could find another victim - a citizen with a gun stopped the madness. "A guy pulled gun on him and told him to drop his weapon or he would shoot him. So, he dropped his weapon and the people from Smith's grabbed him."

By the time officers arrived the suspect had been subdued by employees and shoppers. Police had high praise for gun carrying man who ended the hysteria. Lt. Brian Purvis said, "This was a volatile situation that could have gotten worse. We can only assume from what we saw it could have gotten worse. He was definitely in the right place at the right time."

Dozens of other shoppers, who too could have become victims, are also thankful for the gun carrying man. And many, like Danylle Julian, are still in shock from the experience. "Scary actually. Really scary. Five minutes before I walk out to my car. It could have been me."

Police say right now they have no idea what caused the suspect to go on the dangerous rampage. (We will update as soon as we learn new information.)

So far, police have not released the names of the suspect, the victims or the man who pulled the gun.


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Friday, April 27, 2012 4:49 AM

CATPIRATE


Well, Looks like to me this dude with the knife was a racist. Attacking Mormons. Or Whites. Raghead or Indian. Will See.

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Friday, April 27, 2012 6:31 AM

CAVETROLL


I'm actually wondering why he bothered to purchase the knife? I mean, if you're going for assault with a deadly weapon, why not just add shoplifting? Maybe he was trying for suicide by cop?

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Friday, April 27, 2012 8:22 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by CaveTroll:
I'm actually wondering why he bothered to purchase the knife? I mean, if you're going for assault with a deadly weapon, why not just add shoplifting? Maybe he was trying for suicide by cop?


No, he saw this creepy guy following him around the store with a gun...assuming the guy with the knife was black and the guy with the gun was white, clearly they arrested the wrong man.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Friday, April 27, 2012 8:37 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by CaveTroll:
I'm actually wondering why he bothered to purchase the knife? I mean, if you're going for assault with a deadly weapon, why not just add shoplifting? Maybe he was trying for suicide by cop?


Very likely, I'd say...

Most CCW crime stops don't even involve actually firing one though, which is why they don't make the news and in the cases they might isn't compatible with the narrative whatever media is usually trying to push - that all gun owners are dangerous nutters, which is bunk cause most of em are MORE responsible (or at least more discreet) cause elseways how'd they slip the background check in order to get a CCW permit, ehe ?

Not that I won't thoroughly excoriate a dangerous jackass with a gun, mind you - I just don't assume that possession of one MAKES someone a dangerous jackass, although it may make one slightly more dangerous, true.
But then so does a drivers license, yes ?

-Frem

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Friday, April 27, 2012 8:43 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Not that I won't thoroughly excoriate a dangerous jackass with a gun, mind you - I just don't assume that possession of one MAKES someone a dangerous jackass, although it may make one slightly more dangerous, true.
But then so does a drivers license, yes ?


Can't disagree, although I'm not sure a dangerous jackass with a gun is worse then one without a gun. I mean if that fella is unarmed and is still a dangerous jackass...then he's pretty damned dangerous.

As for drivers licenses, they don't kill people nearly as often as the cars do...

"Stand back everybody! I've got a drivers license and I'm not afraid to use it!"

Ironically that statement coming from my little sister does inspire a measure of real fear.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Friday, April 27, 2012 9:04 AM

KPO

"Love is natural and real. But not for you my love. Not tonight my love..."


Good. A gun-saturated society is not all downsides.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Friday, April 27, 2012 9:32 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Good thing this didn't happen in Chicago, DC, NY City, England, Canada or Australia, or the gunman would've been arrested immediately, and the stabber given a free dinner of spotted dick and Mr Brain's faggots with the German Nazi queen of Babylon.

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Friday, April 27, 2012 10:35 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
As for drivers licenses, they don't kill people nearly as often as the cars do...

"Stand back everybody! I've got a drivers license and I'm not afraid to use it!"

Ironically that statement coming from my little sister does inspire a measure of real fear.


Even more ironic that in three days, three cars have crashed into restaurants here, Panera Bread, some chinese place and a local family restaurant, bing, bang, boom.

I know one thing, if I dine out around here anytime soon, I think we'll skip the window seat, thanks.

-F

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Friday, April 27, 2012 10:44 AM

WISHIMAY

"Well, so long Earth...Thanks for the air... and what-not" -Philip J. Fry


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Originally posted by PIRATENEWS:
Good thing this didn't happen in Chicago, DC, NY City, England, Canada or Australia, or the gunman would've been arrested immediately, and the stabber given a free dinner of spotted dick and Mr Brain's faggots with the German Nazi queen of Babylon.



Yanno, once I realize that the rational, level-headed potion of your brain has been removed, it gives me the opportunity to appreciate the phrase "colorful metaphor."

You are like the living breathing incarnation of the Id, you know that? There was a wonderful skit that Robin Williams did about the Id...wish I could find that...

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Friday, April 27, 2012 11:19 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Most CCW crime stops don't even involve actually firing one though, which is why they don't make the news and in the cases they might isn't compatible with the narrative whatever media is usually trying to push - that all gun owners are dangerous nutters, which is bunk cause most of em are MORE responsible (or at least more discreet) cause elseways how'd they slip the background check in order to get a CCW permit, ehe ?



I know my one crime stop involved no shooting.

Long ago in Georgia, I was stopping at a walk-up ATM to get some cash for pizza when a young man walked up brandishing a knife and requested my wallet. I reached back where my wallet was, produced an AMT .380 Backup (perfectly legal, as I had a CCW permit) and suggested he drop his knife and leave. He did. Knowing the hassle I'd get from the local cops for pulling even a legal firearm, I kicked the knife down a storm drain, got my money, got my pizza, and went home.

Several of the folks I shot with at local ranges reported similar incidents. Only one ever had to actually had to shoot someone, and that was after the guy he stopped had shot a couple of unarmed folks in a fit of rage.

Here in Va. I'm down at the ranges at Quantico most every week, with folks who are serious shooters. The only folks there who have ever shot anyone are the Marine snipers who show up for matches and recreational fire to practice.

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Friday, April 27, 2012 11:27 AM

BYTEMITE


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Can't disagree, although I'm not sure a dangerous jackass with a gun is worse then one without a gun. I mean if that fella is unarmed and is still a dangerous jackass...then he's pretty damned dangerous.


Well put.

Quote:

Ironically that statement coming from my little sister does inspire a measure of real fear.


My big brother feels the same way.

Boy, you all know what's happening in my neck of the woods sooner than I do.

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Friday, April 27, 2012 11:34 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by PIRATENEWS:
Good thing this didn't happen in Chicago, DC, NY City, England, Canada or Australia, or the gunman would've been arrested immediately, and the stabber given a free dinner of spotted dick and Mr Brain's faggots with the German Nazi queen of Babylon.



Yanno, once I realize that the rational, level-headed potion of your brain has been removed, it gives me the opportunity to appreciate the phrase "colorful metaphor."

You are like the living breathing incarnation of the Id, you know that? There was a wonderful skit that Robin Williams did about the Id...wish I could find that...



To be fair, spotted dick is the name of a meat pudding, though I have no idea about the other entree.

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Friday, April 27, 2012 3:25 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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Yanno, once I realize that the rational, level-headed potion of your brain has been removed, it gives me the opportunity to appreciate the phrase "colorful metaphor."

You are like the living breathing incarnation of the Id, you know that?

Priceless, prize for the first giggle of the day (been a slow day....)

Yes, Jo loved Spotted Dick. I couldn't watch.

Mr. Brain's Faggots:






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Friday, April 27, 2012 5:03 PM

WISHIMAY

"Well, so long Earth...Thanks for the air... and what-not" -Philip J. Fry


English Food. Reminds me of an article I read about clearing the sewers in one (primarily restaurants) block of London, that there was enough grease-y cholesterol to fill over 40 double decker busses. Not that we're spotless, mind, but I just can't un-equate the two now... Prolly because a lot of it looks like it's been scraped out of sewer...


Where were we? Oh yeah, guns... Another way we're good at killing ourselves...

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Friday, April 27, 2012 6:59 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Guns don't protect people, people protect people ;)

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Friday, April 27, 2012 7:02 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotted_dick

It's just a badly named pudding. Probably quite nice. I may have even had it.

Faggots are another thing. Thankfully I was pretty much vegetarian the whole time I was in the UK.

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Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:17 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, Wish, tell me about it. While Jo was here, some of her cooking just made me leave the room (on the rare occasions she bothered)! Her idea of a roast was to slice off about 75% of the fatty stuff, then complain that our American roasts "had nothing to them"! I heard once it's the result of the cold climate, but I dunno, given I don't know what Norway/Sweeden/etc. eat. Definitely yeah, they DO scarf down that grease!



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Sunday, April 29, 2012 7:17 PM

WISHIMAY

"Well, so long Earth...Thanks for the air... and what-not" -Philip J. Fry


I noticed while I was in Canada (wintertime) that everyone seems to use a LOT of gravy... Granted that was Niagara area, and I took it to be partly American influence. Have any of you traveled extensively in Canada and know about foods there, especially the more northern areas?

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Monday, April 30, 2012 3:36 AM

BYTEMITE


It kind of depends. There's a lot of biscuits and gravy in the south and west. I think the practice started in the south, and when they lost the civil war and a lot of them went west it became kind of a cowboy/miner staple along with sourdough. So while there's probably some of it in Canada I'm not sure how much of it is attributable to the U.S. and in Utah I think the gravy tends to be outside the cities. I never had much of it except around Thanksgiving.

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Monday, April 30, 2012 3:49 AM

CAVETROLL


re: Canadian gravy. Look up a food called Poutine. It's tastier than it may seem.

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Monday, April 30, 2012 10:39 AM

OONJERAH



Strange. I've gone through a space warp!
I'm living on a planet where many people don't eat gravy and act as if they never heard of it!

(The 1st ingredient of gravy is drippings/juices = blood & fat. Then flour, then milk.)

Note: Gravy is not considered a weapon, concealed or brandished.


. . . . .The worst and most frequent consequence of paranoia is that it's self-fulfilling.


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Monday, April 30, 2012 11:07 AM

BYTEMITE


Well, I've been vegan for a while now, but even before then I tended to just put butter or butter substitute on my mashed potatoes. Which was really the only food my family really bothered with gravy about. The rest of the time we tended to use cream of mushroom soup or some homemade sauce instead.

Eh, the components of gravy are a non-factor. I try all kinds of unusual foods, and a lot of stuff that technically isn't FOOD per se. There's not a lot that can gross me out or that I wouldn't recommend, with four possible exceptions I won't go into.

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Monday, April 30, 2012 12:38 PM

WISHIMAY

"Well, so long Earth...Thanks for the air... and what-not" -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Strange. I've gone through a space warp!
I'm living on a planet where many people don't eat gravy and act as if they never heard of it!





Hah. Yeah we eat gravy every once in a while, mostly on Sunday mornin's over biscuits, but they had it with sandwiches and over fries and...everything not moving or nailed down. I likes me some gravy, but I occaisionally like ta see what I'm eating, too

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Monday, April 30, 2012 6:47 PM

OONJERAH



10 Things Everyone Should Know About Concealed Weapons Permit Holders =>
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/05/robert-farago/10-things-every
one-should-know-about-concealed-weapons-permit-holders
/

Concealed carry is a trade-off: personal security vs. societal risk.
And the societal bonus of having someone armed around if someone else
who’s armed goes postal.


1. We don’t carry firearms so that we can ignore other basics of personal
safety. We don’t walk down dark alleys. We lock our cars. We don’t get
intoxicated in public or hang out around people who do . . . A gun is our
last resort, not our first. ...




. . . . .The worst and most frequent consequence of paranoia is that it's self-fulfilling.


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Monday, April 30, 2012 11:42 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

Strange. I've gone through a space warp!
I'm living on a planet where many people don't eat gravy and act as if they never heard of it!

(The 1st ingredient of gravy is drippings/juices = blood & fat. Then flour, then milk.)

Note: Gravy is not considered a weapon, concealed or brandished.




Ha. Gravy is made with meat juices, flour, then stock, water or wine.

Byte, I have made a vegetarian version, saute onions in a little oil or butter (or vegan butter), stir in flour then add vegetarian stock and red wine, flavour with chopped parley and salt and pepper.

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Tuesday, May 1, 2012 4:36 AM

BYTEMITE


Sounds pretty good. I usually use vegetable boullion.

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Wednesday, May 2, 2012 4:41 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I know this sort of thing happens often enough, I wish it made the news more.

I'm not a gravy person, but more power to them that are.

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

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Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:18 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Sounds pretty good. I usually use vegetable boullion.



I'm pretty sure boullion is the same as stock :)

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Thursday, May 3, 2012 5:11 AM

BYTEMITE


Oh. Yeah, somehow I missed you mentioning that.

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