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"Is Herman Cain the most unctious black man alive?

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:24 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


It appears he's not doing that well with some of the Black community...
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This presidential election has not lacked for clowns, and in a circus Herman Cain fits right in. But as the Black clown, Cain’s foot-in-mouth moments mostly involve insulting the Black community. This could be to establish his independence from the community in order to earn his bona fides with the GOP electorate or a way of appeasing the white conservatives he’s courting. Or it could be that his foot and his mouth are magnetized. Whatever the reason, as a Black person, the Hermanator experience has been as distasteful as rancid, spoiled, stinky, curdled milk.

First Cain’t told Blacks we were “brainwashed into not being open-minded or considering a conservative point of view.” Brainwashing is a highly offensive charge that suggests the Black mind is defective or has gone to sleep. In a world where Black intelligence is constantly maligned and denigrated and underestimated, this cuts deeper than the quick. Alleging that we’re not intelligent enough to make rational political decisions would hurt if it weren’t so comical coming from his mouth. Also, has the GOP offered a reasonable alternative?

Then the Black Sarah Palin said, “Obama’s never been a part of the Black experience in America.” Now we’re doing teenage-level disses? What is this narrowly imagined Black experience that Obama has never been a part of? His background is unique, but he’s Black, so it was a Black experience.

Also, Big Daddy Cain recently said racism no longer “holds anyone back in a big way,” which is a disgusting and dangerous statement because it gives leverage to those who want desperately to believe that lie. Racism is like the weather: we only talk about its extremes, but it’s always there. America has institutional inequities built into its structures that guarantee that millions of Blacks have no chance at success. Those systems operate powered by white privilege, which works automatically, no need to apply or activate it. And much of modern racism is subtle and hidden; there are fewer smoking guns now than ever. For my book Who’s Afraid of Post-Blackness?, I asked about 100 people, What’s the most racist thing that’s ever happened to you? More than a third of them said the answer is unknowable. It’s something that they weren’t aware of happening but that materially changed their lives. There was no confrontation, no ugly words, just power exerting itself in a smooth, efficient, prejudiced way to maintain the vast inequalities of this country. Racism is far from over, and the success of some Blacks — including Herman Cain — doesn’t refute that.

Cain is a clown. You see it in the way he constantly mollifies white audiences with self-effacing, racialized comedy that borders on minstrelsy (referring to himself as “black-walnut ice cream” or suggesting that the Secret Service call him “Cornbread”). You see it in his stunning gaps in knowledge and understanding of foreign policy and domestic affairs. He says if you don’t have a job, don’t blame Wall Street, because it’s your fault, which in a crippling recession with historically high unemployment numbers means he’s either frighteningly blind or offensively ignorant. This is not a man of serious intellect or realistic solutions or admirable character. This is a buffoon.

Cain is what I long imagined the first Black President would be like: a Republican who many Blacks find unctuous. But is he really the most unctuous Black man in America? I’d say it’s a race between Clarence Thomas, Flavor-Flav and the Hermanator, and if Cain isn’t No. 1, he’s no worse than tied. http://ideas.time.com/2011/10/20/is-herman-cain-the-most-unctuous-blac
k-man-alive/

I know his polling is high, even among the Black community, but I wonder how long that will continue if he keeps talking? There are so many things that, if I were an African American, I would find degrading and consdescending, I can't imagine the right's love affair with him will hold, especially among African Americans.

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:37 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Been listening to Herman for years, on the radio. He's as genuine as they come. And he's been smackin' sense into his Dem Party plantation dwelling callers , every chance he gets. He's awesome.




Blacks are actually for a lot of what the TEA party stands for, even if they won't say so publicly. Maybe with Herman polling so well, they'll come in from the cold, and wise up.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:50 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Any time a Black man talks about personal responsibility the so-called Black leaders and their Democrat overseers go into frenzied attack mode. They did the same thing to Bill Cosby a few years ago when dared to encourage Blacks to be responsible fathers. They almost ran him out of town for suggesting such a thing. Cain is absolutely the real deal, and despite what pundits say, I think he can beat Obama if he can get past Romney. Go Hermie!


ps. New Iowa poll has Cain leading Romney.





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Thursday, October 20, 2011 5:25 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Actually, I think Obama is the most unctous black man alive.

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Friday, October 21, 2011 1:10 AM

MAL4PREZ


unc·tu·ous
1. characterized by excessive piousness or moralistic fervor, especially in an affected manner; excessively smooth, suave, or smug.
2. of the nature of or characteristic of an unguent or ointment; oily; greasy.

I can see that. Of both Cain and Obama. Obama, though, has some skills to back it up. Cain? I'm just not seeing it.

Riddle me this: how come Obama was -- according to the right -- not experienced enough to be president, yet this man who has never held a single elected office is currently a front runner and I've yet to hear one person question his complete lack of experience?

*scratches head*

I bet it's because he's such a tool that his toolishness far outweighs his lack of experience. (By tool I mean an unctious fool with the common sense of a doorknob and people skills of a bedbug.)

Cain is not as entertaining as Sarah or Michelle, but that's not through lack of trying. He still might reach that level.


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Friday, October 21, 2011 7:47 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, Zip-a-dee-yay...

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Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:12 PM

RIONAEIRE

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Mal4Prez,
Thanks for the definition of unctious, its one of those funny sounding words that you hear and then wonder about what it actually means.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Sunday, October 23, 2011 10:22 PM

HKCAVALIER


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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, Zip-a-dee-yay...

QFMFT

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Monday, October 24, 2011 1:00 AM

MAL4PREZ


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Originally posted by RionaEire:
Mal4Prez,
Thanks for the definition of unctious, its one of those funny sounding words that you hear and then wonder about what it actually means.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

Yeah, I needed to check the definition. Turns out, the word didn't have quite the meaning I'd thought. Kudos to Niki for expanding my vocabulary LOL!

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Monday, October 24, 2011 4:09 AM

BYTEMITE


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Brainwashing is a highly offensive charge that suggests the Black mind is defective or has gone to sleep.


What? Brainwashing has nothing at all to do with intelligence or any kind of defect. Very intelligent people have at times been turned by insidious manipulation (or sometimes, outright torture). The conflict between their original moral conscience and what they are being compelled to do can be excruciating.

The other form of brainwashing builds on already existing tendencies and certain universal psychological exploits. Neither of these are anything that could be blamed on the victim of the brainwashing.

And considering how certain topics and conclusions about the inherent fairness and stability about our socio-economic and electoral system are perpetuated, brainwashing is not all or nothing, one group or another.

Off topic, I suppose, but it's important to understand just what brainwashing IS and how it is DONE, and not just use it as a buzzword.

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Monday, October 24, 2011 4:41 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


'Fraid I can't accept the kudos...that was the original title of the article. Nonetheless, it's a good one I'd kind of forgotten about and want to remember.

I agree completely, Byte. WE're brainwashed in various ways we may not care to admit. Everyone is, in my opinion, one way or another and a little or a lot. Nonetheless, he WAS using it as a buzz word and it got the reaction he wanted. I guess that's what I find offensive.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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