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Stunning win for Cain in Fla. straw poll

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:05 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


So the Raptor continued to wail,

when the topic was dead as a nail,

what he didn't get,

was that everyone quit,

when he raised that racist flag and set sail.


I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:14 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



You're the one still posting childish, inane limericks here.

If it's so dead, then why not leave it be ?

Seriously, don't go away mad, just go away.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:20 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


The Raptor thought I was mad,

maybe because he was so sad,

that I'm having fun,

while he's having none,

you would think he'd let it go like a fad.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:29 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Nick, your limericks are getting short on cadence. One reason I haven't tried.

So I go a different route:



But keep it up, they're fun!




Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:34 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

Cain won the FL straw poll, by getting more than 2x's the votes his next two challengers got, combined.
By less than a thousand votes, in one state? We're supposed to take that seriously?
Quote:

Why are you folks so scared of me stating the facts ?
Ahh, the same old bullshit...we're not scared of facts, or of you, we're LAUGHING at both (if you hadn't noticed).
Quote:

If it doesn't interest you, then why even reply at all ?
Because Cain is a non-entity, and it's much more fun to push YOUR buttons!





Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:37 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Not to mention that fact that it was shown that Cain tends to make untrue statements and Raptor just decided to call people racists instead of addressing that point.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:42 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Glad you finally figured that out.



No one disputed it, you ninny.




No, y'all just ran from it, and instead tried to go all Saul Alinsky , by ignoring the issue and instead attacking me.



No, we ignored it because it DOESN'T MATTER.

Then we made fun of you because it's a blast.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:44 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Ya got that right! This pretty much says it all:




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Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:46 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Not to mention that fact that it was shown that Cain tends to make untrue statements and Raptor just decided to call people racists instead of addressing that point.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.



Dear Ruler has been caught.

You know that I take the label of “liar” pretty seriously. A person can only tell a lie if they know the fact to be untrue at the time they utter it. And that brings us to an unctuous utterance from Dear Ruler. Is he merely demonstrating his ignorance (he has an adequate supply, after all) or was he lying. You be the judge. Here’s the situation …

On multiple occasions, Barack Obama has stated that he should not be paying a lower effective tax rate than a teacher. Here’s just one specific example (though there are many): At a recent town hall meeting in Mountain View, California, Obama said, "Somebody who's making $50,000 a year as a teacher shouldn't be paying a higher effective tax rate than somebody like myself.”

That’s a pretty bold claim on the part of our Dear Ruler, wouldn’t you say? So FactCheck.org did the math, and you can guess what they found … Obama’s claim that he pays a lower tax rate than a teacher earning $50,000 a year is false. Here are the details from FactCheck.org.
A single taxpayer with $50,000 of income would have paid 11.9% in federal income taxes for 2010, while the Obamas paid more than twice that rate — 25.3% (and higher rates than that in 2009 and 2008). And if the $50,000-a-year teacher were in Obama's tax situation — supporting a spouse and two children — he or she would have paid no federal income taxes at all.
The outcome is the same whether we count payroll taxes or not, and even if we look at what the $50,000 earner will pay on 2011 income. Whatever the assumption, the rates Obama paid were higher — and usually much higher.

Obama has made it crystal clear that his 2012 reelection campaign is going to be based on the exploitation of wealth envy. If you’re paying attention you now know that he will resort to flat-out falsehoods in order to pander to the dumb-masses who don’t know any better. Obama is creating his own reality – a reality where the rich don’t pay their “fair share” and he pays taxes at a lower rate than middle-class Americans. Neither of these are true, yet he will continue to push these ideas until people actually believe that they are true.
Know what? I go with liar. These statements are untrue, he knows them to be untrue, and he knows them to be untrue at the moment he makes them. That makes him a liar.

Obama’s own campaign team has acknowledged this strategy of focusing on wealth envy, because he has zero accomplishments when it comes to the economy. His advisors say, “He needs to shift the focus from his stewardship of the economy to the stark choice confronting voters about the nation's political leadership.” Well no $4it, Sherlock So now jobs are no longer the focus for Obama. Screw jobs, because Obama knows that he doesn’t know how to solve that problem. Instead, let’s focus on leadership. An Obama campaign advisor says, "Most Americans are very concerned about the future and the direction we're going to take.” I don’t understand why the Obama administration thinks that this is going to work in their favor considering the latest Rasmussen polls show that just 17% of Americans say the country is heading in the right direction. So what direction does Obama want to take this country? Toward a redistributive society where the government seizes money from the Haves and gives it to the Have-Nots; toward a society where political leaders, not the private sector, decide where new economic growth will and will not be, and where new jobs will be created and where they will be eliminated. The LATimes reports, “Obama is tapping into resentment over the growing concentration of wealth in fewer and fewer hands.” They say this “helps the president forge an emotional connection with his base, especially minorities and working-class voters who have been falling behind.”

Does this re-election strategy inspire you to work hard or risk your savings to start the business of your dreams? If Obama manages to pull this thing off based on a re-election campaign of wealth envy, then the achievers in this country better bend over.

http://www.boortz.com/weblogs/nealz-nuze/2011/sep/29/either-obama-bad-
math-or-liar
/


And Niki, it was by a 2 to 1 margin. 'By less than a 1000 votes ' is meaningless, because it was a STRAW POLL vote, which only had a couple of thousand take part in the first place.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:48 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
No, we ignored it because it DOESN'T MATTER.

Then we made fun of you because it's a blast.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"



You didn't ignore it, 100+ posts prove that fact.

You're scared of a REAL black man being elected as President, and you're just pissed off at me because I'm right.

Again.


This thread is a glaring exhibit of the Dunning - Kruger effect, by an array of Lefties, who are so supremely impressed with themselves, over knowing as little as possible.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:02 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
No, we ignored it because it DOESN'T MATTER.

Then we made fun of you because it's a blast.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"



You didn't ignore it, 100+ posts prove that fact.




My God, are you fucking stupid.

YOU said we ignored it - I was just responding to your usage of the word. I even quoted you.

Here - since you've apparently had a stroke:

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
....by ignoring the issue and instead attacking me.




Seriously, do you even pay attention to what YOU write? Can you really be that big of a fucking moron????

Wow.

Really - how is it that you say we ignored the issues, and then turn around and say we didn't???

Because you are truly retarded.

I guess maybe I should stop picking on you. You clearly don't have the mental capacity to keep up.



"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:05 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


You ignored the issue, not the thread, brainless.

But thanks for, once again, proving my point.


Man, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

( how'd those fish get in that barrel in the first place ? )


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:11 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You ignored the issue, not the thread, brainless.

But thanks for, once again, proving my point.



Yes, dipshit, I know. That's what I was talking about in the first place - we ignored the issue BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER.

Nice try at deflecting, though. Granted, no one is dumb enough to fall for it (well, save you), but it's endearing to see you try try try.

Maybe we should have a "Special" debate section for you, one where you can keep track of what's said. We could maybe set up a text reading program to go over it, beat by beat, so you don't get so lost. Poor boy.

Here.... real slow, for the dummy:

Nowhere
did
I
say
that
we
ignored
the
thread.

Do try and keep up. I know you can't, but at least put in the fucking effort.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:17 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


So, just to clarify, you completely ignored the issue, by NOT ignoring the thread.

Why ?


Just go ahead and flat out state that you're so overwhelmingly petty, clueless and full of irrational hatred for anything positive that you'll spend countless hours vilifying a person over absolutely nothing, simply because they post a relevant news item on the 2012 election.

Funny part is, this thread ended up being a display on just how completely asinine and obsessed you are with me. Funnier still, is that you don't think anyone sees it, and YOU think I'm the one who is stupid ?

WOW!

Y'all are such easy marks.



" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:21 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
So, just to clarify, you completely ignored the issue, by NOT ignoring the thread.

Why ?



Already been answered twice, you blithering idiot.

And you act like it's some revelation that we enjoy picking on you.

Damn, son - I've told you many, many times, IT'S MY PRIMARY MOTIVATION FOR COMING TO THE BOARD.

Great detective work there, boyo.


"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:29 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor: Dear Ruler has been caught.


What you, the right, and fact check missed was "lower effective tax rate".

Effective tax rate would not just include federal income tax.



...but now instead of deflecting please address the falsehoods Cain has said.

Or I will simply go back to mocking you.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:33 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Damn, son - I've told you many, many times, IT'S MY PRIMARY MOTIVATION FOR COMING TO THE BOARD.



What a pathetic excuse for a life you must have....



Schadenfreude meets Dunning - Kruger.


You might want to see to that.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:38 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


What, you don't think mocking you is fun?

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:39 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor: Dear Ruler has been caught.


What you, the right, and fact check missed was "lower effective tax rate".

Effective tax rate would not just include federal income tax.



...but now instead of deflecting please address the falsehoods Cain has said.

Or I will simply go back to mocking you.



Cain's mishaps are too trivial to even respond. His body of work, his resume', his political platform..it all speaks for itself.

You immaturely crank out dozens of childish, mocking posts, and then threaten to mock me even more, if I don't acquiesce to your nonsensical, irrelevant little challenge ? Really?

Color me bored.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:46 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Cain is too trivial to even worry about. His body of work, his resume', his political platform..it all speaks to the fact he is a sham.

You wittingly crank out dozens of funny as hell, mocking posts, and then threaten to mock me even more, if I don't acquiesce (had to look that up) to your very relevant challenge. Thank you!

Please mock me more, I live only in the shadow of your greatness.



Please Raptor you are to generous, but you are right, they were funny.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:35 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Damn, son - I've told you many, many times, IT'S MY PRIMARY MOTIVATION FOR COMING TO THE BOARD.



What a pathetic excuse for a life you must have....




Silly teabagger.

I just have a job that puts me at a computer most of the day with little to do.

You are an amusing distraction, nothing more.

But keep playing martyr. I'll keep laughing.



"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:57 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

I just have a job that puts me at a computer most of the day with little to do.




Govt employee ?




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:13 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Govt employee ?



I was thinking Tea Party registration officer.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:19 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Govt employee ?



I was thinking Tea Party registration officer.



Figures, as there IS no actual 'TEA' party, as in a political entity sense, I can understand how YOU'D think as such.

Che Guevera fan club might be closer to the mark.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:26 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Che Guevera fan club might be closer to the mark.



He would be busy then, have you seen all of our shirts?

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:51 AM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Yeah I have the freedom to not read this thread, which is what I pretty much did until yesterday. But I also have the freedom to come here and slag you guys about how weird this thread is.

And the freedom to yammer about whatever I want in it too.

So today I taught my singing class that I teach on Thurs. My folk were very proud of themselves for doing well in our performance on Sat. I was proud of them too, everythingwent well and today we spent the class, we had a shortened class, debriefing about the concert, what they enjoyed, what we could do differently next time to make it even better etc. Our group is growing and its fun to watch them get more confident in themselves and to have new folk coming in and joining us.



"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:03 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:And the freedom to yammer about whatever I want in it too.


Yammer away brother!

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:07 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Che Guevera fan club might be closer to the mark.



He would be busy then, have you seen all of OUR shirts?




Yeah, figures you'd support that gutless, murdering piece of shit.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:19 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yeah, figures you'd support that gutless, murdering piece of shit.



Oh, for the love of Zeus grow a sense of humor.


The Raptor was still such a twit,

he didn't understand when to quit,

no humor sense,

he has no defense,

someone please buy him some wit.


I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:32 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yeah, figures you'd support that gutless, murdering piece of shit.



Oh, for the love of Zeus grow a sense of humor.



Because mass murder and torture are such a laugh riot.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:43 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


They can be.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:46 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yeah, figures you'd support that gutless, murdering piece of shit.



Oh, for the love of Zeus grow a sense of humor.




You are asking an awful lot.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:04 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:


Rappy, who the hell is this "Sal Alinksy, 101" you keep referring to? I've never heard of him.



I hate to admit it, Kwick, but he stumped me too.

So I looked Alinsky up. In short, he was the guy who invented " community organizing." For good or bad, he was about organizing voters, especially non-influential voters, into groups that would vote and consequently have their voices heard.

That surely is a good thing in a democracy.

Wikipedia has a nice piece about him. Hillary C and Pres. Obama are some of the people who admit being influenced by him.

I'm surprised that Rap has heard of him, although from his tone, Rap got his name from an "enemies list " published by the KKK/ Birch Society/ teabaggers/, or from some McCarthyite who he hangs around with.

That's the only source I can think of for somebody who hasn't heard of John Stuart Mill. And it would figure that he got Che Guevara from the same source.

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:22 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Brother? Oh well, that does sound better at the end of a sentence asthetically than sister.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:37 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


NOB - you're wrong, on pretty much all accounts.

Save for this...

Saul Alinsky wrote 'Rules for Radicals'. He's influenced many on the left, including Hillary and Obama

And that's about all you DID get right.

Alinsky made popular the idea that, instead of dealing w/ the issues, agitators should instead aggressively attack their political opponents on a personal level. And yes, agitators is a proper term. He believed that that system had to be turned on its head to be 'remade'. As in what Obama meant, when he wanted to 'fundamentally transform' this nation.

It's not perfect, and does need work, but the US doesn't need to be fundamentally transformed, at all.

This nation is not, nor was ever intended to be a 'democracy'. It's a representative republic, as the founders meant it to be, in the great wisdom.

Don't know why you'd be surprised I've heard of him. Limbaugh, Boortz, Hannity, O'Reily, Ingraham... lots of folks refer to Alinsky often. And as for the KKK, John Birch Society ? Really? Are you stuck in the 1960's and 70's ?

Sorry, but the TEA party crowd has no affiliation to those nut cases of bygone days. You really should try to get out more.

Che Guevera ? Learned about him on my own, mostly, but he's obviously well known in public discourse. Infamously, of course. And I've heard a lot about what he did and what he thought, that the Left wingers wouldn't want the public to know. How he participated in tortures and mass murder, What a overt racist he was, how he preferred white European women ( French, mostly ) to Latinos, and how he despised blacks.

Yeah, a real fucking hero, huh?

Sad, how you refer to yourself as a 'Browncoat', while extolling the virtues of those who'd fit nicely into an Alliance, bad-guys-wear-hats universe. Or, in this case, berets.





" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:43 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:


Rappy, who the hell is this "Sal Alinksy, 101" you keep referring to? I've never heard of him.



I hate to admit it, Kwick, but he stumped me too.

So I looked Alinsky up. In short, he was the guy who invented " community organizing." For good or bad, he was about organizing voters, especially non-influential voters, into groups that would vote and consequently have their voices heard.

That surely is a good thing in a democracy.

Wikipedia has a nice piece about him. Hillary C and Pres. Obama are some of the people who admit being influenced by him.

I'm surprised that Rap has heard of him, although from his tone, Rap got his name from an "enemies list " published by the KKK/ Birch Society/ teabaggers/, or from some McCarthyite who he hangs around with.

That's the only source I can think of for somebody who hasn't heard of John Stuart Mill. And it would figure that he got Che Guevara from the same source.



I knew of him, mainly because the resident hard-right blowhard on the other board I frequent spent about a week going on about it. Then he found a new talking point and moved on.

As Rappy pointed out - rightwing pundits love to bring him up. No one else really cares.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:53 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Glad you finally figured that out.



No one disputed it, you ninny.




No, y'all just ran from it, and instead tried to go all Saul Alinsky , by ignoring the issue and instead attacking me.


How productive AND mature of you.

( not )

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "




Wait - "Saul Alinsky"? Is he the same guy you keep calling "Sal Alinksy", or is this a new guy?


By the way, I didn't ignore the issue. I addressed it several times, clarifying your "facts" with facts of my own. To which your response was to attack my signature, which I've had for several months, because you had nothing with which to refute my facts.

How very productive AND mature of you. ;)

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:55 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Storymark:

As Rappy pointed out - rightwing pundits love to bring him up. No one else really cares.





Just shows I am more informed than you. Not a surprise, though.


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Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:13 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
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Originally posted by AURaptor: Dear Ruler has been caught.


What you, the right, and fact check missed was "lower effective tax rate".

Effective tax rate would not just include federal income tax.



...but now instead of deflecting please address the falsehoods Cain has said.

Or I will simply go back to mocking you.



Cain's mishaps are too trivial to even respond. His body of work, his resume', his political platform..it all speaks for itself.

You immaturely crank out dozens of childish, mocking posts, and then threaten to mock me even more, if I don't acquiesce to your nonsensical, irrelevant little challenge ? Really?

Color me bored.




Cain's "mishaps" are to trivial to even respond to? So it doesn't bother you that he doesn't know the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, doesn't recognize the First Amendment or its protections?

Or, if you think he DOES know these things, then you are forced to admit that he's a liar, willfully saying things he knows to be untrue.

So which is it? Which one do you find to be trivial? The idea that your dream date is a moron, or the fact that he's a liar?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:22 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Cain knows there are 50, not 57 states in the USA.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:23 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I've heard of Saul Alinsky, but Rappy has more than once referred to him as "Alinksy" and "Sal Alinksy", which tells me that he himself doesn't know a damn thing about the guy, and is just parroting what he (mis)read somewhere else.

For someone supposedly "informed" on such things, he sure has a hard time getting the guy's name right. That shouldn't be a surprise, though - the right is known for getting things completely wrong

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:26 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


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Brother? Oh well, that does sound better at the end of a sentence asthetically than sister.



Sorry about that! I post on the beta site and your avatar over here is the Shepard Book, so even with your name I was thinking male.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:26 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Cain knows there are 50, not 57 states in the USA.




Can you prove that he knows that? Do you think he knows how many Amendments our Constitution has?

Isn't that one of those things that you find too trivial to even respond to? Or is it only trivial when Herman Cain misspeaks?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:36 PM

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Limbaugh, Boortz, Hannity, O'Reily, Ingraham... lots of folks refer to Alinsky often. And as for the KKK, John Birch Society ? Really? Are you stuck in the 1960's and 70's ?

Sorry, but the TEA party crowd has no affiliation to those nut cases of bygone days.



Well, I musta been right- he got the name from somebody's enemies list-- Limbaugh, Hannity , and O'Reilley. I'm sure the KKK, Birchers, and McCarthyites didn't like HIM in HIS day-- he was a minor figure and dead since 1971.( EDIT-- oops, pardon me, 1972.)

And of course the Tea party crowd has no affiliation to those nut cases of bygone days. They're the NUT CASES of the MODERN DAYS.

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:48 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


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Sad, how you refer to yourself as a 'Browncoat', while extolling the virtues of those who'd fit nicely into an Alliance, bad-guys-wear-hats universe. Or, in this case, berets.




"Don't go there , son."

I'm a Browncoat because I'm a fan of a TV show, ASSHOLE!

If there's a political test to be a Brown COAT, maybe YOU oughtta change the name to Brown SHIRTS!

Imma stop right here. anything else I got to say should properly be

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:22 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Limbaugh, Boortz, Hannity, O'Reily, Ingraham... lots of folks refer to Alinsky often. And as for the KKK, John Birch Society ? Really? Are you stuck in the 1960's and 70's ?

Sorry, but the TEA party crowd has no affiliation to those nut cases of bygone days.



Well, I musta been right- he got the name from somebody's enemies list-- Limbaugh, Hannity , and O'Reilley. I'm sure the KKK, Birchers, and McCarthyites didn't like HIM in HIS day-- he was a minor figure and dead since 1971.( EDIT-- oops, pardon me, 1972.)

And of course the Tea party crowd has no affiliation to those nut cases of bygone days. They're the NUT CASES of the MODERN DAYS.




Thing is, the Birchers *DO* have ties to the tea-baggers, and have even been co-sponsors of some tea-bagger and GOP gatherings recently.

Apparently Rappy isn't as informed as he thinks he is. But it appears quite likely he's exactly as MISinformed as we think he is.


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The John Birch Society, a group denounced by the late conservative icon William F. Buckley, has been making the rounds at several Tea Party events and will host a table at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in February for the second consecutive year after having not attended for two decades, save one year in the 1990s. Though marginalized by Buckley in the 1960s and 1970s, the society has started to make a resurgence of sorts by tying itself to the Tea Party movement.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/29/john-birch-society-reborn-in-tea-par
ty-movement/#ixzz1ZOWGgeln


http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11035/1122957-455.stm

http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2011/06/the_tea_party_and_the_john_
bir.php


"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:23 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:




Sad, how you refer to yourself as a 'Browncoat', while extolling the virtues of those who'd fit nicely into an Alliance, bad-guys-wear-hats universe. Or, in this case, berets.




"Don't go there , son."

I'm a Browncoat because I'm a fan of a TV show, ASSHOLE!

If there's a political test to be a Brown COAT, maybe YOU oughtta change the name to Brown SHIRTS!

Imma stop right here. anything else I got to say should properly be



It's okay, NOBC - Rappy often has trouble distinguishing between reality and the voices he hears in his head.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, September 30, 2011 1:51 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:




Sad, how you refer to yourself as a 'Browncoat', while extolling the virtues of those who'd fit nicely into an Alliance, bad-guys-wear-hats universe. Or, in this case, berets.




"Don't go there , son."

I'm a Browncoat because I'm a fan of a TV show, ASSHOLE!

If there's a political test to be a Brown COAT, maybe YOU oughtta change the name to Brown SHIRTS!

Imma stop right here. anything else I got to say should properly be



Well this is just more evidence that Rappy does not understand the difference between reality and fiction.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Friday, September 30, 2011 2:26 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
"Don't go there , son."

I'm a Browncoat because I'm a fan of a TV show, ASSHOLE!

If there's a political test to be a Brown COAT, maybe YOU oughtta change the name to Brown SHIRTS!

Imma stop right here. anything else I got to say should properly be



BrownSHIRTS and Beret wearing, Che loving morons fall on the same side of the fence, imo.

Me, I'm on the other side, in favor of freedom. Just like the rest of the TEA party types.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, September 30, 2011 3:07 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Me, I'm on the other side, in favor of freedom. Just like the rest of the TEA party types.



....and the side of ignorance, fear, intolerance, selfishness and general douchebaggery.

Go teabag elswere!

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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