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Health Care Reform PASSED!!! Now what?

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
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Sunday, March 21, 2010 1:59 PM

CHRISISALL


I await the "armageddon" predicted by Republican representatives.
That's it folks, kiss our culture & way of life goodbye!
We're in the handbasket, and on our way to Hell.

And remember those transgenics that escaped the Manticore complex last year in Gillette Wyoming?

We are SO screwed!!!!






The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 3:14 PM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
And remember those transgenics that escaped the Manticore complex last year in Gillette Wyoming?



Only you, Chris, can tie the health insurance reform bill to Dark Angel, somehow.

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 3:41 PM

CANTTAKESKY


You know, what I don't understand is this. If the Republicans and the insurance conglomerates were going to fight this bill anyway, why didn't they shoot for what they really wanted: nationalized health care?

Hell, I woulda voted for that instead of this nightmare they've foisted on us.

Makes me wonder if they really wanted nationalized health care.

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 3:50 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Since this Healthcare Bailout Bill was written by insurance companies, will the Repubs actually sue like they promised?

Or was it just another dog on pony show to fool the sheeple? Just liek the private "Federal" Reserve Act was secretly written by the jew banksters, "to get those big bad banksters under control!"


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Sunday, March 21, 2010 3:51 PM

CHRISISALL


Now we're just another ex-superpower, looking for a handout & wondering why we voted this death-blow-dealing bill into law.




The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 3:53 PM

CHRISISALL


John, man, PLEASE- that image is TOO BIG!!
I LEAVE threads for that reason. K?


The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 4:02 PM

RAHLMACLAREN

"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb


Sooo, again, how's an unemployed person supposed to afford MANDATORY health insurance?


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Sunday, March 21, 2010 4:18 PM

CHRISISALL


The bill creates as many problems as it solves, but any change is better than none at this point IMO.

Another few tweaks over the years might make it work well, we'll see.

OR- it's the end of the world as we know it; I feel fine.


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 4:26 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:

John, man, PLEASE- that image is TOO BIG!!
I LEAVE threads for that reason. K?



That's THE PLAN. No small images on the interwebs, and I don't feel like resizing and hosting it myself.

BTW, the Healthcare Bailout Bill has NOT passed.

Only crooks hold illegal secret votes in dead of night at the witching hour on a weekend WITH NOBODY IN THE ROOM.


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Sunday, March 21, 2010 4:27 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


My only hope for America is that the USSC overturns this nonsense, and real leadership can restore order back to nature come November.

This is a pointless and sad day for America.

In so many ways.



If only the Democrats would stop the LYING about all this crap.......


Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor


Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 4:32 PM

CHRISISALL


It's the end of the world as we know it; I feel fine.





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Sunday, March 21, 2010 4:33 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


16,500 More IRS Agents To Enforce Obamacare, Jail for Poor Sheeple
http://rense.com/general90/more.htm

Pelosi bill: Jail for no medical insurance
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/healthcare/66879-pelosi-bill-jai
l-for-no-insurance


PELOSI: Buy a $15,000 Insurance Policy or Go to Jail
http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?doc
umentid=153583


Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/11/interview-with-the-pre
sident-jail-time-for-those-without-health-care-insurance.html


Quote:

“What I think is appropriate is that in the same way that everybody has to get auto insurance and if you don't, you're subject to some penalty, that in this situation, if you have the ability to buy insurance, it's affordable and you choose not to do so, forcing you and me and everybody else to subsidize you, you know, there's a thousand dollar hidden tax that families all across America are -- are burdened by because of the fact that people don't have health insurance, you know, there's nothing wrong with a penalty.”
-Dictator Saddam Hussein Obama Bin Laden
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/abc-news-exclusive-obama-jobs-health-ca
re-ft/story?id=9033559


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Sunday, March 21, 2010 4:40 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

My only hope for America is that the USSC overturns this nonsense, and real leadership can restore order back to nature come November.


Good luck with that. This Court seems to have already sold itself to the corporations, I don't think those corporations are going to want the Court to throw out their millions of new mandatory customers.

Ain't corporate personhood grand?




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Sunday, March 21, 2010 4:42 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
It's the end of the world as we know it; I feel fine.


Goodbye, over-stretched thread.


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010





Meh - couldn't call the fall of empire unexpected. ;)

Besides, I've already got another country lined up. How about you? Rush Limbaugh swears he's moving to Costa Rica - a great place to live, complete with government-run healthcare! :)




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Sunday, March 21, 2010 4:53 PM

CHRISISALL


Mike, I'm not dealing with this thread any more.
I did not say this; I was never here.

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 4:57 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:, I don't think those corporations are going to want the Court to throw out their millions of new mandatory customers.






You're a complete moron if you think the private sector will benefit in this , at all. Gov't will run healthcare, wholly, and completely. There won't BE any corporate customers.

How aren't you getting this ? Doing away w/ the insurance companies is ENTIRELY what this is all about , from the very beginning!


Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor


Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:06 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Of course - It's brilliant! With NO public option, and NO single-payer system, and NO Medicare For All, and mandated PURCHASING of health insurance from PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporations, it's clear it's designed from the outset to destroy corporations.

So was that what the Republicans were doing for all those years, when they were shoveling money at the corporations as fast as they could? They were really just trying to make them collapse under the weight of all that money?




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Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:24 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


This is where the only credible answer that Rappy has is "DOH!"

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:26 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
This is where the only credible answer that Rappy has is "DOH!"



Oh, Signy... Now you're just being silly...





Rappy has NEVER had a credible answer!






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Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:26 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:



You're a complete moron if you think the private sector will benefit in this

Ummm... Whaaat?

Colour me a moron, I guess.

Oh wait! Private sector as in "Not Corporations"?
You may be correct then.
Sorry.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:28 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Color me surprised to find out that Rappy thinks corporations aren't part of the private sector...




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:29 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
This is where the only credible answer that Rappy has is "DOH!"



Not even remotely close.

I gave a very specific answer, and as usual, Kwickie dodged it by propping up a straw man argument to avoid my response.


Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor


Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:29 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.

Or in dead of night.

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:31 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Color me surprised to find out that Rappy thinks corporations aren't part of the private sector...




Color me surprised to find out that Kwickie thinks corporations are part of the Gov't.

Dumbass, there won't BE any HC corporations in a few years. THAT'S THE GORRAM POINT!


How fucking stupid can you be ? Did you even LISTEN to the bags of wind / Democrats?

Of course not. You're already camped out by your mail box for that ObamaCard you've waited all these years to have.


Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor


Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:32 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


I gave a very specific answer

You mean "specious," don't you?

Sorry, your Earth languages still confound me...


The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:34 PM

CHRISISALL



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Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:34 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
This is where the only credible answer that Rappy has is "DOH!"



Not even remotely close.

I gave a very specific answer, and as usual, Kwickie dodged it by propping up a straw man argument to avoid my response.




It's like ringing a bell. He's so easily side-tracked, it really is hilarious. And he talks, but all that comes out is a muffled "MMmmmmffffmmmf - mmmffmmfmfmf".

Rappy, what did I tell you about talking with your mouth full?




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Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:38 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Color me surprised to find out that Rappy thinks corporations aren't part of the private sector...




Color me surprised to find out that Kwickie thinks corporations are part of the Gov't.

Dumbass, there won't BE any HC corporations in a few years. THAT'S THE GORRAM POINT!


How fucking stupid can you be ? Did you even LISTEN to the bags of wind / Democrats?

Of course not. You're already camped out by your mail box for that ObamaCard you've waited all these years to have.






Tell ya what, "genius" - How's about you pull up the SPECIFIC pages, paragraphs, sections, and clauses that SPECIFICALLY outlaw all private healthcare corporations and mandate that ONLY the government shall be allowed to provide or administer health care, or admit that you don't have a clue what the fuck you're talking about, and you've been duped by the usual fucknut Republican talking points that got rammed down your throat stapled to the end of Limbaugh's cock?


Post 'em up - and BE SPECIFIC.




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Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:38 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
there won't BE any HC corporations in a few years. THAT'S THE GORRAM POINT!



That's what future government is for. Bye the people, foregoing the people.
Did you miss the memo?


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:46 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Tell ya what, "genius" - How's about you pull up the SPECIFIC pages, paragraphs, sections, and clauses that SPECIFICALLY outlaw all private healthcare corporations and mandate that ONLY the government shall be allowed to provide or administer health care

I'll do it for him, Mike:


****************************************

There!

Seriously, any steps are better than the NO-steps the Repos suggested IMO.
Wait for a perfect bill? And the Rapture too??


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:15 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Tell ya what, "genius" - How's about you pull up the SPECIFIC pages, paragraphs, sections, and clauses that SPECIFICALLY outlaw all private healthcare corporations and mandate that ONLY the government shall be allowed to provide or administer health care

I'll do it for him, Mike:


****************************************

There!

Seriously, any steps are better than the NO-steps the Repos suggested IMO.
Wait for a perfect bill? And the Rapture too??


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010




Well, it wasn't like I honestly expected him to provide anything to back up his bullshit claims. He never has before; why would he start now?


It truly is pathetic AND laughable how much he shits his pants on just the occasion of a bill passing the House. It hasn't even passed the Senate yet, and Rappy's already given up and proclaimed the nation finished. Pity we don't have more of his kind in the military - we'd have less of his kind already! :)




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Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:27 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:, I don't think those corporations are going to want the Court to throw out their millions of new mandatory customers.






You're a complete moron if you think the private sector will benefit in this , at all. Gov't will run healthcare, wholly, and completely. There won't BE any corporate customers.

How aren't you getting this ? Doing away w/ the insurance companies is ENTIRELY what this is all about , from the very beginning!




Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

I know, I know... It's only childish when others to it to YOU, right?



No, it's only childish when a child, like yourself, tries to say it to others, when it so clearly does not apply, except to you.

You know what you said, and how you brought down this thread, as you always do, by going all foul mouthed and pre - pubescent.

You're not capable to engage in reason, logic or mature conversation. We get that. It's just sad that you feel the need to remind everyone of that fact so often.





Note YOUR words, and how YOU "brought down this thread" with your foul-mouthed pre-pubescence.

In your own words (mangled language as they may be), "You're not capable to engage in reason, logic or mature conversation."

We all get that. We all get that you have no purpose here, except as laughing stock and butt of all jokes. It seems you're the only one who doesn't get that.




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Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:50 PM

CHRISISALL


Mike, you're forgetting the line in Jurassic Park applicable to AU...

"They just do what they do."

Would you blame a blind man for not being able to identify a grasshopper at his feet?


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:01 PM

RAHLMACLAREN

"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb


You just reminded me.

Since this thread's gone to crap anyways, who would win?

River vs velociraptor.


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Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:07 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:
who would win?

River vs velociraptor.


River, without a doubt.


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:09 PM

GINOBIFFARONI




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Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:26 PM

CHRISISALL


Wet tail ensues...


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Monday, March 22, 2010 1:22 AM

JONGSSTRAW


I'm not happy with the outcome, but in fairness, I do have to give Obama and Pelosi their due credit for sticking with it and getting it passed when I didn't think it possible.

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Monday, March 22, 2010 1:42 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I'm not happy with the outcome, but in fairness, I do have to give Obama and Pelosi their due credit for sticking with it and getting it passed when I didn't think it possible.




In the long run, we're going to look back and say, ".... Meh... Of all the laws ever passed, this was certainly one of them..."

Medicare Part D was a terrible idea, poorly executed - but nobody gets any traction by running on the idea of repealing it, because the people who have it and use it, don't want to lose it, even if it is flawed. I imagine this will be the same deal: not perfect, not even close, but accepted.




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Monday, March 22, 2010 2:35 AM

PEACEKEEPER

Keeping order in every verse


Quote:

Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:
Sooo, again, how's an unemployed person supposed to afford MANDATORY health insurance?


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Find here the Serenity you seek. -Tara Maclay

So previously,when you needed medical attention and were unemployed,how did you pay for it?

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!

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Monday, March 22, 2010 3:55 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Okay. Let's try this again. To get the summary, go to

http://thomas.loc.gov

Click on Bills, Resolutions

Click on Search Bill Summary, Status

Type HR03590 in the search line and enter

Select CRS Summary on the bill's title page.


I got no idea why the address for the summary takes you to email if you copy and link it.


"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Monday, March 22, 2010 4:01 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
".... Meh... Of all the laws ever passed, this was certainly one of them..."



Zactly.
And it might make things a little better after all.
Damn.
I was SO lookin' forward to all that armageddon the Pubs predicted...


The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, March 22, 2010 4:42 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Here's the CRS summary.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:HR03590:@@@D&summ2=2&

"Keep the Shiny side up"




Only thing that happens when I click that is that my e-mail program opens and tries to send a mail to thomas.loc.gov.

Odd. You sure you got that address right?




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Monday, March 22, 2010 4:43 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
".... Meh... Of all the laws ever passed, this was certainly one of them..."



Zactly.
And it might make things a little better after all.
Damn.
I was SO lookin' forward to all that armageddon the Pubs predicted...


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010



Sadly, they can't even deliver on the death and destruction they promised. ;)




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Monday, March 22, 2010 5:19 AM

RAHLMACLAREN

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Quote:

Originally posted by peacekeeper:
So previously, when you needed medical attention and were unemployed, how did you pay for it?

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!



LUCKLY, I didn't need any.

Obviously, I didn't.

Isn't there like +10% unemployment in this country? How are they supposed to afford it?

I'm guessing minimal health insurance isn't as cheap as liability only car insurance.



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Monday, March 22, 2010 5:21 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


I'm trying not to jump to any conclusions... yet... but... if I were to I would be very frustrated. WTF? Mandatory? When I was making zero money my folks paid for my insurance or I went without.

I can't figure the math on this either - more people paying in AND it will cost an extra TRILLION even though we're going to make it more efficient? Any mention of how our rates will drop? Anybody?

And small businesses having to pay for their employees? I still don't get why it's their responsibility to buy their employees' insurance - what's the connection? I predict many small businesses will outsource if they can to avoid paying (the last straw), at the current rates that's a business breaker.

But I'm going to wait until all the reports are in before I judge.

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Monday, March 22, 2010 5:24 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:


Isn't there like +10% unemployment in this country? How are they supposed to afford it?


10% must become 0%- there's no other way.

Seriously, there must be a provision for that...

Help me out, O knowledgeable ones!


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Monday, March 22, 2010 5:28 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:
When I was making zero money my folks paid for my insurance or I went without.



Like driving, living is not a right, it's a privilege. Make money or make tracks.


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Monday, March 22, 2010 5:43 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Like driving, living is not a right, it's a privilege. Make money or make tracks.



That should be the guy's slogan who goes around knocking on the doors of people who are unemployed. "It's the Gov's way or the highway loser... now go get a job deadbeat!" The world would be a much better place

OR

"Paying Big Insurance is not a right, it's a PRIVILEGE. Now pay up."
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Monday, March 22, 2010 5:47 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:
I'm trying not to jump to any conclusions... yet... but... if I were to I would be very frustrated. WTF? Mandatory? When I was making zero money my folks paid for my insurance or I went without.

I can't figure the math on this either - more people paying in AND it will cost an extra TRILLION even though we're going to make it more efficient? Any mention of how our rates will drop? Anybody?

And small businesses having to pay for their employees? I still don't get why it's their responsibility to buy their employees' insurance - what's the connection? I predict many small businesses will outsource if they can to avoid paying (the last straw), at the current rates that's a business breaker.

But I'm going to wait until all the reports are in before I judge.




Actually, the business-bought insurance model is the CURRENT system. Do you get insurance from your employer? I do, to an extent (they pay half, I pay half). This in essence makes everyone who DOES get employer-paid healthcare an indentured servant, tied to their job and afraid to leave for fear of going without or picking up a "pre-existing condition" when they're in the limbo of not having any insurance until the new job's insurance kicks in.

As to how the poor and unemployed will pay, as I understand it there will be programs and subsidies to reimburse them or to pay their premiums outright. I might be wrong on that, but that was one of the things I heard mentioned.




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