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Lone senator blocks unemployment benefit extensions

POSTED BY: NIKI2
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Wednesday, March 3, 2010 9:52 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I know, me too. I try to remember the universe and all creatures in it are intrinsically in a state of complete wisdom, love, and compassion; acting in natural response and mutual interdependence.

What obstructs the effortless manifestation of this state is ignorance, which projects into fear and needless craving. So when someone is so obviously obstructed, there's nothing we can do.
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The conditions of the cold war have turned all modern societies–communists included–into vicious distorters of man’s true potential. They create populations of “preta” hungry ghosts with giant appetites and throats no bigger than needles.
Our lesson for the day. We must meditate on it... perhaps in sadness for those creatures caught in its snare. Does that include Bunning, or is he just out-and-out nuts, I wonder?


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Wednesday, March 3, 2010 9:54 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by Niki2:
Does that include Bunning, or is he just out-and-out nuts?


Nuts are generally products of emotional misfortune. So, yeah, I'd think.


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Wednesday, March 3, 2010 10:02 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


True, o wise one. sigh...so sad, both of them. I guess compassion is all that's left...(tough, that one!!)


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Wednesday, March 3, 2010 10:09 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"I guess it wasn't enough for you and Rue that I challenged Rap on his Bunning position ..."

I agree with your position, but you seemed to think that the suffering of the unemployed was merely a political pretext and not real in any way. And that to portray it as real suffering was somehow unfair or untrue.

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Silence is consent.

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Wednesday, March 3, 2010 10:17 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Ooops, Rue, I missed that one, thanx. I didn't recognize the snark.

Yes, I kinda felt the same aout miimizing the suffering, and I wasn't asking you to give specifics, was just standing up for equality I guess. Agreement that both sides have produced disgusting ads would have been sufficient, it wasn't a put-down in any way.


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Wednesday, March 3, 2010 10:42 AM

GINOBIFFARONI


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
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Originally posted by Hero:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
This guy is simply holding everyone to the LAW.
The Dems passed Pay/Go, and Bunning is holding them to it.


He makes a good point. If they can't find $10 Billion Dollars to pay for something everyone wants, then they'll never pay for anything.

Ironically, never paying for anything is the Obama plan.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.




Excellent


Find the money for Iraq and Afghanistan

or it ends tomorrow due to lack of interest




Either you Are with the terrorists, or ... you Are with the terrorists

Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers.
What you do today, might Burn Your Ass Tomorrow"





Yeah, it is really good to finally see Rappy and "Hero" come clean and admit that the wars were horrible ideas and completely unjustified, unnecessary, and unfunded, and that we never should have undertaken either of them. That shows real growth.

Where'd the money come from for the F-22 program, anyway? How about Medicare Part D? How was that paid for?




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions




Or perhaps the implementation of a war tax in times of foreign conflict...

instead of hiding the cost in the regular budget which is intended to cover things like what this bill is holding up, a separate war tax to directly fund the war not only would be more honest, but it would interfere less with regular budget commitments.

War bonds could also be sold to those who really support the war to pick up supplemental costs, keeners like AU and Hero could float bank loans to show their support then, while people in opposition can say not.

Of course the regular budget would be hit with additional drains for things like veteran support, equipment maintenance, etc... but the war tax to cover operating costs, military aid, etc would take that cash directly, and actually cut the deficit by not borrowing money to pay for it... mind you taxes would then increase but it could make for shorter wars, or perhaps no war at all.



Either you Are with the terrorists, or ... you Are with the terrorists

Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers.
What you do today, might Burn Your Ass Tomorrow"

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Wednesday, March 3, 2010 12:46 PM

PERFESSERGEE


Ahh, hypocrisy thy name is Republican. And always has been. Not that I like the Dems much better, but nobody in DC can out-hypocrite the Rethugs.

perfessergee

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Thursday, March 4, 2010 3:05 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"I guess it wasn't enough for you and Rue that I challenged Rap on his Bunning position ..."

I agree with your position, but you seemed to think that the suffering of the unemployed was merely a political pretext and not real in any way. And that to portray it as real suffering was somehow unfair or untrue.

***************************************************************

Silence is consent.


Please tell me you really did not think that I was making fun of un-employed people and their families. If so, then I suppose I need to bolster-up on my writing skills. Nothing could be further from the truth...in fact, if I didn't care about these people I would not have even bothered to write to the Bunning defender about it. And yes, there is a political element to it as well, but I only used that to help drive home the point to a person who would not address the human side to this action, by trying at least for him to understand the potential political fallout from Bunning's stance.

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Thursday, March 4, 2010 5:35 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"I guess it wasn't enough for you and Rue that I challenged Rap on his Bunning position ..."

I agree with your position, but you seemed to think that the suffering of the unemployed was merely a political pretext and not real in any way. And that to portray it as real suffering was somehow unfair or untrue.

***************************************************************

Silence is consent.


Please tell me you really did not think that I was making fun of un-employed people and their families. If so, then I suppose I need to bolster-up on my writing skills. Nothing could be further from the truth...in fact, if I didn't care about these people I would not have even bothered to write to the Bunning defender about it. And yes, there is a political element to it as well, but I only used that to help drive home the point to a person who would not address the human side to this action, by trying at least for him to understand the potential political fallout from Bunning's stance.




No worries, Jongs - *I* got what you were driving at, and completely agree. It's pathetic and sad (the unemployed being made to suffer more), and yes, it damn well WILL be used in campaign commercials to try to gain a political advantage.

But that shouldn't surprise anyone. We've seen Republicans try to cash in on the deaths of thousands of 9/11 victims, on the attempted bombing of airliners, and anything else they think they can play to their advantage.




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Thursday, March 4, 2010 6:04 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by rue:
"I guess it wasn't enough for you and Rue that I challenged Rap on his Bunning position ..."

I agree with your position, but you seemed to think that the suffering of the unemployed was merely a political pretext and not real in any way. And that to portray it as real suffering was somehow unfair or untrue.

***************************************************************

Silence is consent.


Please tell me you really did not think that I was making fun of un-employed people and their families. If so, then I suppose I need to bolster-up on my writing skills. Nothing could be further from the truth...in fact, if I didn't care about these people I would not have even bothered to write to the Bunning defender about it. And yes, there is a political element to it as well, but I only used that to help drive home the point to a person who would not address the human side to this action, by trying at least for him to understand the potential political fallout from Bunning's stance.




No worries, Jongs - *I* got what you were driving at, and completely agree. It's pathetic and sad (the unemployed being made to suffer more), and yes, it damn well WILL be used in campaign commercials to try to gain a political advantage.

But that shouldn't surprise anyone. We've seen Republicans try to cash in on the deaths of thousands of 9/11 victims, on the attempted bombing of airliners, and anything else they think they can play to their advantage.




I'm glad that someone got it. Thanks!

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Thursday, March 4, 2010 6:43 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


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Please tell me you really did not think that I was making fun of un-employed people and their families. If so, then I suppose I need to bolster-up on my writing skills. Nothing could be further from the truth...in fact, if I didn't care about these people I would not have even bothered to write to the Bunning defender about it. And yes, there is a political element to it as well, but I only used that to help drive home the point to a person who would not address the human side to this action, by trying at least for him to understand the potential political fallout from Bunning's stance.



Feel free to call me an idiot. I focused on one little thing and didn't get the big picture.

My apologies. I'll try to not do that in the future.

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Thursday, March 4, 2010 7:08 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I got it now!

I didn't really think you were dismissing them, it just came across kinda "off"--if that makies any sense.


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Thursday, March 4, 2010 7:24 AM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by rue:
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Please tell me you really did not think that I was making fun of un-employed people and their families. If so, then I suppose I need to bolster-up on my writing skills. Nothing could be further from the truth...in fact, if I didn't care about these people I would not have even bothered to write to the Bunning defender about it. And yes, there is a political element to it as well, but I only used that to help drive home the point to a person who would not address the human side to this action, by trying at least for him to understand the potential political fallout from Bunning's stance.




Feel free to call me an idiot. I focused on one little thing and didn't get the big picture.

My apologies. I'll try to not do that in the future.



Rue, I'd never call you a bad name, and your post back to me only shows me that you're a person worthy of my respect.

Niki....ditto. Thanks!

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