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The USA Still Exists. Does the utter failure of your predictions concern you, PN?

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Monday, December 7, 2009 2:53 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Hey, does this mean that Obama's not President, since the USA no longer exists?

PN, Out2Lunch, you got your wish! :)

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Monday, December 7, 2009 7:50 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


I did notice it being A LOT colder this morning... was that it? Like, Global Cooling maybe?

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Monday, December 7, 2009 7:59 AM

JAMERON4EVA


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:

I just don't pay attention to links and videos dealing with reality.



Funny how you refuse to post any facts to support your endless lies.

Everybody is laughing at your ignorance. And treason. The punishment for treason is death.

In 1 day UN Inc will annex USA via its Carbon Tax on air and farts. No democracy allowed. Obama and Gore will be proud. Media Mafiya will remain mute.

Scary that FFF is a superior news source than CNN, NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC and Fox.



"So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause..."
-Little Jew Girl in Big Jew Movie




Yes while all you put out is crap, and links so you can force the scrilla scrilla, dolla, dolla big ben's outa us decent folk.

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

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Monday, December 7, 2009 8:05 AM

JAMERON4EVA


Quote:

Originally posted by peacekeeper:
Yes, where is the kaboom? We've got clippers waiting off the Eastern Seaboard,muskets are primed and at the ready and Her Majesty's Pennsylvania Avenue residence needs to be fumigated pending her imminent arrival. There will be tea and muffins on the front lawn at midday where there will be a splendid afternoon's cricket. Pass me a Pimm's old chap, would you.My God, what HAVE you done to the place!!!?

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!



Cause i just had to say it to the Brit.,

"Go away you silly King, or i will taunt you a second timme"

There, GO AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By the way, didn't us Americans kick Britains butt in two CONSECUTIVE wars, and bail them, along with Frace out of two as well?

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

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Monday, December 7, 2009 8:23 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by jameron4eva:
Quote:

Originally posted by peacekeeper:
Yes, where is the kaboom? We've got clippers waiting off the Eastern Seaboard,muskets are primed and at the ready and Her Majesty's Pennsylvania Avenue residence needs to be fumigated pending her imminent arrival. There will be tea and muffins on the front lawn at midday where there will be a splendid afternoon's cricket. Pass me a Pimm's old chap, would you.My God, what HAVE you done to the place!!!?

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!



Cause i just had to say it to the Brit.,

"Go away you silly King, or i will taunt you a second timme"

There, GO AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By the way, didn't us Americans kick Britains butt in two CONSECUTIVE wars, and bail them, along with Frace out of two as well?

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22




Well, by that kind of logic, wouldn't Vietnam or Afghanistan be Number One, then? ;)

Heck, Vietnam beat the Chinese, the French, THEN the U.S., and Afghanistan has beaten everybody since Genghis Khan and Alexander the Great on down. As such, kicking ass seems to put them pretty high up on the heirarchy of great nations, eh?

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Monday, December 7, 2009 9:24 AM

PEACEKEEPER

Keeping order in every verse


Looks like Jameron doesn't understand humour!!!And anyway,the US were rather late in chipping in to the past two world wars.But I'm certain you'll be bang on time for number three.

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!

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Monday, December 7, 2009 10:04 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

"2009 is the first year of Global Governance with the establishment of the G20 in the middle of the financial crisis. The Climate Conference in Copenhagen is another step forward towards the global management of our planet."
-Herman Van Rompuy 1st president of the European Soviet Union and Nazi Bilderberg Group member, 2009







Nothing to see here. Go Baaaaarack to sleep.

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Monday, December 7, 2009 10:18 AM

GINOBIFFARONI


Happy Japanese Airforce Day PN







Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists


Lets party like its 1939

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Monday, December 7, 2009 11:33 AM

PEACEKEEPER

Keeping order in every verse


Quote:

Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Happy Japanese Airforce Day PN







Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists


Lets party like its 1939

OUCH,I felt that sting from all the way over here!!!

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!

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Monday, December 7, 2009 12:42 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Happy Japanese Airforce Day PN







Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists


Lets party like its 1939





YOWCH!




You just won teh internets.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Monday, December 7, 2009 1:02 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
There was supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom!


An' I was so hoping I wouldn't have to leave the house today...

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Monday, December 7, 2009 1:34 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


I was wondering how one was supposed to count the days. Do you count the day the prediction is made ? Do you count up to the numbered day, or do you include it ? Or do you take it as within the window specified ? It spoils a lot of movies for me. Though it could be a very funny part in a movie. Someone makes a dramatic announcement (you will DIE in THREE DAYS !!!) and meanwhile the person to whom it is said is asking - do you count today ? Do you mean after three full days or when the third day comes up ? And they start counting on their fingers - now, of we count today and it's AFTER three full days it's, uhm, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday ... not until Thursday ? Do I have that right ? But if I DON'T count today and it's after three full days it's ...

But anyway, making it as late as possible, if we didn't count the 28th but started on the 29th instead, and decided it was after 8 full days that makes it ... 29(1), 30(2), 1(3), 2(4), 3(5), 4(6), 5(7), 6(8) ... by my reckoning ... aren't we overdue ? Being overdue .... Is it like being pregnant ? Or like a library book .... Arrghhhh, another set of questions !

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Monday, December 7, 2009 1:56 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




EPA about to declare CO2 dangerous, outlaw all trees
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/06/epa-about-to-declare-co2-dangero
us-ssshhh-dont-tell-the-trees
/

Copenhagen climate change summit to produce as much CO2 as an African country
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1233771/Climate-change-summit-produce
-CO2-African-country.html


Quote:



More than 15,000 delegates and 45,000 green activists are due to descend on the Danish capital over the next two weeks in a meeting described this week by British economist Lord Stern as 'the most important since the Second World War'.

They will be joined by at least 5,000 journalists - including 35 from the BBC alone - and 100 world leaders, including Gordon Brown and Barack Obama.



How many of those delegates did you vote for, who want to quadruple your taxes?

Copenhagen climate summit: 1,200 limos, 140 private planes and caviar wedges
www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6736517/Cope
nhagen-climate-summit-1200-limos-140-private-planes-and-caviar-wedges.html


Quote:

“We thought they were not going to have many cars, due to it being a climate convention,” Majken Friss Jorgensen, managing director of Copenhagen’s biggest limousine company told the Telegraph. “But it seems that somebody last week looked at the weather report.”

“Ms Jorgensen reckons that between her and her rivals the total number of limos in Copenhagen next week has already broken the 1,200 barrier. The French alone rang up on Thursday and ordered another 42. “We haven’t got enough limos in the country to fulfil the demand,” she says. “We’re having to drive them in hundreds of miles from Germany and Sweden.”

“And the total number of electric cars or hybrids among that number? “Five,” says Ms Jorgensen.”

While readying speeches about how the middle class will be forced to lower their living standards, pay higher taxes on all forms of travel, and make personal sacrifices in order to save the planet from the alleged menace of CO2, Copenhagen globalists will be relaxing on the 140 extra private jets that are being forced to drop off attendees in Copenhagen and then fly back to other airports and even other countries just to park due to the lack of spaces.

Elitists will scoff scallops, foie gras and sculpted caviar wedges, while lecturing the general public about how eating meat is harming the earth.

And while the climate crooks wag their finger at you for having the audacity to own an SUV, they will be running up a bill of over $200 million dollars, and guess who is going to be picking up the tab?

“According to an analysis by the Taxpayer’s Alliance, a conservative cost of Copenhagen is £130million.

It includes £6.3million on flights, £20million on hotels and £3.3million on food,” reports the Daily Mail.

“The figure also includes the salaries for delegates and the contribution from the Danish government of £37 million. Most of the money will come from taxpayers.”



Caviar Scoffing, CO2 Belching, Prostitute Molesting Climate Crooks Convene For The Mass Raping at Hopenhagen
www.prisonplanet.com/caviar-scoffing-co2-belching-prostitute-molesting
-climate-crooks-convene-for-the-mass-raping.html


Quote:

According to an article in Spiegel Online, prostitutes are preparing for globalists to descend on Copenhagen by offering free sex.

The Mayor of Copenhagen attempted to limit the expected deluge of summit attendees enjoying the use of prostitutes by sending a letter to hotels across the city urging delegates and guests at the conference, “Be sustainable, don’t buy sex.”

Prostitutes responded by offering free sex to any Copenhagen attendee who produces the Mayor’s letter.



Big Oil Behind Copenhagen Climate Scam
www.infowars.com/big-oil-behind-copenhagen-climate-scam/

Copenhagen’s Dirty Industry Not Calculated in Carbon Footprint
www.nypost.com/p/news/international/warm_and_fuzzy_facts_RD1aMFGyyvy19
b0ZTHaGwO


Christmas trees banned for Hopenhagen climate summit
www.cphpost.dk/climate/91-climate/47679-christmas-trees-banned-for-cli
mate-summit.html


Carbon Capitalists Warming to Climate Market Using Derivatives
www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aXRBOxU5KT5M

Hopenhagen climate con opens to movie of children genocided by Apocalypse
www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hYxzVPlN6_qyl3jRCWg5OwWxvJ
AA


Quote:

The Copenhagen conference venue has been declared UN territory, with about 15,000 delegates, journalists and observers from grass-roots organisations attending.

Another 19,000 who registered will not be admitted, as the venue has reached capacity.

More than half of all of Denmark's police force has been deployed to the capital and police warned they would act swiftly to quell any violent protests.



NASA’s Hansen Wants Hopenhagen to Collapse
www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5B21BK20091203

Gay Gore Vidal endorsed 'Environmental Authority’ to regulate breeding, license births
www.infowars.com/gore-vidal-endorsed-environmental-authority-to-regula
te-breeding-license-births
/

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Monday, December 7, 2009 2:01 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


The US still exists. Does the failure of your prediction not concern you ?

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Monday, December 7, 2009 2:28 PM

BYTEMITE


http://www.infowars.com/big-oil-behind-copenhagen-climate-scam/

Hmm, this one is interesting. Are they bribing the Oil companies to not get in the way, or do they have other interests in mind?

At least at the university I went to, Environmental Scientists were trained at the same school as mining engineers and petroleum geologists. I'd always wondered why; the first field seems like it should have a conflict of interest with the later two.

When I graduated, they phased out my Environmental Science degree with a more general Geoscience with either Geology, Environmental Science, or Geophysics emphasis. The Environmental emphasis no longer has to take the high level hydrology and chemical / pollution courses that I had to take.

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Monday, December 7, 2009 2:32 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Who are (is ?) the CFR ?

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Monday, December 7, 2009 2:36 PM

BYTEMITE


The who? CFR? I don't know.

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Monday, December 7, 2009 2:40 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Proof of Global Warming in Knoxville TN this week:
www.piratenews.org/global_warming_in_knoxville_tn.html

Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Who are (is ?) the CFR ?

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Sir Don Rumsfeld Kosher Knight of the British Empire

Council on Foreign Relations Corporation secret society, those nice folks who wrote the United Nations charter at Bohemian Grove. CFR is the Communist front that runs the US shadow govt. Obama's wife is CFR.

www.cfr.org

History Channel: Secret Societies (Pipes is a Zionist Jew on CFR)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1270081493781521177

Quote:

Congressman John R. Rarick:

"The Council on Foreign Relations --dedicated to one world government, financed by a number of the largest tax-exempt foundations, and wielding such power and influence over our lives in the areas of finance, business, labor, military, education, and mass communication media-should be familiar to every American concerned with good government and with preserving and defending the U.S. constitution and our free-enterprise system. Yet the Nation's 'right -to-know-machinery' --the news media--usually so aggressive in exposures to inform our people, remain conspicuously silent when it comes to the CFR, its members, and their activities. And I find that few university students and graduates have even heard of the Council of Foreign Relations. The CFR is 'THE ESTABLISHMENT!' Not only does it have the influence and power in key decision making positions at the highest levels of. government to apply pressure from above but it also finances and uses individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify the high level decisions for converting the United States from a sovereign Constitutional Republic into a servile member state of a one world dictatorship."



www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS346US346&q=Council+on+Fore
ign+Relations&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10





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Monday, December 7, 2009 2:46 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Byte

Apparently the 'scientists' (there are more than one) of the CFR are in cahoots with BIG OIL. Though I'm not sure who are the climatologists in that picture.

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Monday, December 7, 2009 2:52 PM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
Proof of Global Warming in Knoxville TN this week:
www.piratenews.org/global_warming_in_knoxville_tn.html



You just cited your own web site as proof of global warming - that's priceless.

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Monday, December 7, 2009 2:56 PM

BYTEMITE


Hmm, I don't know about the scientists in particular, or how they might be using global warming here, but to me it does sound like the CFR is a concern. Are there any checks and balances on them?

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Monday, December 7, 2009 3:26 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Byte

The CFR is one of many think tanks that seek to influence policy. (BTW they were listed in your link, which claimed that the 'CFR scientists' were in league with BIG oil etc. Since you linked it, that was why I asked - who is the CFR ? I thought maybe there was another CFR around somewhere. B/c, AFAIK, the CFR has no scientists. Given that, the claim that 'CFR scientists' were 'doing' anything at all seems --- remote.)

ETA: there really are conspiracies. Rich and powerful people do intend to stay rich and powerful, and maybe even get more rich and powerful. And they will do that no matter how many people have to die of want or war, no matter how many lies they have to spew, no matter how much destruction is caused, no matter the true insanity of it all. That doesn't relieve us of the burden of sorting out fact from fiction (a task PN is sadly equipped to perform). Going crazy with suspicion and pointing the finger everywhere is that same as pointing it nowhere. Either way, nothing changes.

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Monday, December 7, 2009 4:10 PM

BYTEMITE


I guess I didn't notice the who so much in the link PN gave so much as the information about the Big Oil companies. Definitely I've seen the Oil Companies become more open to the possibility of green technology, which I don't necessarily think is a bad thing, but I have to wonder which comes first, the changing marketplace, or the marketplace manipulation? I've always thought Big Oil was being pretty dumb, dragging their feet on looking for renewables when oil and gas are predicted by their own people to run out in 20 to 50 years. But definitely jumping on a global warming bandwagon, is smart, whether or not global warming is real. Which I actually think it is, though I'm very skeptical of any "catastrophe" beyond sea level rise, storm intensity, and more extreme droughts.

Thanks for the info on CFR, both you and PN. As I said, I suppose we don't really know where exactly they fit in to the rich and powerful conspiracies you mention (which I also believe to be real), but if they were strongly represented in the Bush Administration (and this administration) then I think PN has correctly labeled them a problem group.

Hope I don't regret saying that.

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Monday, December 7, 2009 4:18 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Byte - It's not so much that big oil is AGAINST green technology, per se; it's that they're against it - vehemently - right up until they've gotten their investments lined up to make the most of green technology. THEN they're all for it.

I noticed this with the soda makers, back when there was a push to get soda machines out of the schools, and to replace them with healthier alternatives. It was fought, hard, and lobbied against, and the soda machines stayed, at least up until Coca-Cola and PepsiCo had bought up a slew of bottled water companies and juice companies. Then, when it came up again, they said, "Oh hells yah - those machines got to GO. Here, put some of our bottled water and juice machines in there." So now, instead of a $0.50 soda at school, you get a nice $1.50 water. Everybody's happy. Especially the water bottlers, eh?

I knew for a fact that Big Oil would get behind green tech; they just had to make sure they could buy the right companies and make the right investments so that if green tech took off, they won, and if oil stayed cheap, they won as well.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Monday, December 7, 2009 4:39 PM

GINOBIFFARONI


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Who are (is ?) the CFR ?

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Council on Foreign Relations


the people behind the last 60 years or so of US foreign policy

people who need to be riddled with holes




Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists


Lets party like its 1939

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Monday, December 7, 2009 5:15 PM

DREAMTROVE


Sorry, I was unaware that there were people that didn't know. The CFR has been the subject of many threads here, and elsewhere. Their website cfr.org used to openly advocate disollution of the United States in favor of a one world govt., one world currency, selective population control, global population reduction and a whole host of nasties. Now they've toned down their image, seeing as one of their own is President, they have to be respectable, or appear that way. But it's not a big surprise that people like John Holdren end up in the administration. Of course, the last administration was filled with CFR members, or operatives, and as Gino said, they've been growing inside the govt for a while. Katie Couric is a CFR operative.

But on the topic of the USA ceasing to exist, anyone else having a problem reaching google or yahoo? is internet search being retooled to go through some great firewall filter, and will tomorrow's news claim that this was all "some massive virus attack (sorry, I'm no longer buying that story.)


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Monday, December 7, 2009 5:47 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Nope, Google's working fine for me.

And their maps still show America as being "United States of America". I could maybe understand them being down or slow if they had to rename everything in their databases, though. Of course, Word makes it easier these days with a "search and replace" action...

Ah well - there's always tomorrow. I'm going to be supremely disappointed in Piraticipant's conjurin' abilities if we don't cease to exist soon, though.

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 7:57 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




Big Oil behind the Greenie Meanies? Al Gore owns an oil company...

Quote:

"The words democracy, vote, ballot do not appeal anywhere in this United Natiosn treaty at Copenhagen. It is a worldwide criminal conspiracy by the governing class against the governed. Just like the European Union has replaced 98% of British laws, making the British Parliament redundant. This will transfer enormous wealth to an unelected Communistic world government. Your Communist president and Communist Congress do not have the best interest of your or your country. This is Change on a scale that is beyond reason."
-Lord Christopher Monckton, Infowars.com Radio, 8 December 2009



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Monckton,_3rd_Viscount_Monckt
on_of_Brenchley


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Too cold for UN delegates to walk at Global Warming Con

“The era of cheap flights for millions of British holidaymakers is over, the Government’s most influential climate change advisers warn today. The Committee on Climate Change says green taxes will have to rise over the next few decades to curb the growing demand for fuel-guzzling air travel,” reports the Daily Mail.

In addition, Copenhagen attendees are set to debate a “global aviation tax to help poorer nations combat climate change.”

“Although detailed funding decisions are not expected to be finalised at the Copenhagen summit, several aviation tax options have stayed in the official negotiating text,” reports the Financial Times.

But fear not, because Al Gore’s 20 bedroom mansion and his heated swimming pool, all of which devours more than 20 times the amount of electricity compared to the average home, will continue to hum along while Gore pays offsets to the very carbon trading markets that he has a giant stake in.

Copenhagen Con Men Launch Global Carbon Tax Heist
www.infowars.com/copenhagen-con-men-launch-global-carbon-tax-heist/



The Copenhagen Climate Con
www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/the_copenhagen_climate_con_h0
FKedd3l95SsaT4cUGChK


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The White House announced Wednesday that President Obama will travel next month to Copenhagen to participate in the United Nations' Climate-Change Conference.

Here's hoping he does better than he did the last time he stopped by that city.

Or, more to the point, here's hoping he doesn't allow America's pockets to be picked totally clean by the shamsters, scam artists and assorted "global-warming" opportunists who also will be in town for the occasion.

For, make no mistake: The whole point of the exercise is to transfer a trillion bucks from the economies of the world's developed nations to Third World kleptocrats -- with God-only-knows how much cash sticking to the fingers of well-connected UN bureaucrats.



Independent journalists denied access to Copenhagen climate talks
http://invw.org/2009/12/independent-journalists-denied-access-to-copen
hagen-climate-talks
/

Quote:

"This is a world tax paid to a world government. This is unacceptable to me. It does nothing to solve the pollution problem. That indicates to me it's a fraud. 'Cap and trade' is nothing but a shell game. Big polluters don't need to change anything, they just buy their way out of it. This 'cap and trade' is pure bull. That's what we're going to have rammed down out throat at this conference. If the people are stupid enough to allow this, they deserve what they get. The best thing you can do is write a letter or make a call to your US Senator. They only care about themselves. If there's no threat to their careers, they'll do whatever they damn well please."
-Governor Jesse Ventura, Infowars.com Radio Show, 8 Dec 2009


Private kosher banks to profit 100% from global tax



Good news, sort of:

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Copenhagen climate summit in disarray after ‘Danish text’ leak

The UN Copenhagen climate talks are in disarray today after developing countries reacted furiously to leaked documents that show world leaders will next week be asked to sign an agreement that hands more power to rich countries and sidelines the UN’s role in all future climate change negotiations.

The document is also being interpreted by developing countries as setting unequal limits on per capita carbon emissions for developed and developing countries in 2050; meaning that people in rich countries would be permitted to emit nearly twice as much under the proposals.

The so-called Danish text, a secret draft agreement worked on by a group of individuals known as “the circle of commitment” – but understood to include the UK, US and Denmark – has only been shown to a handful of countries since it was finalised this week.

"It is being done in secret. Clearly the intention is to get [Barack] Obama and the leaders of other rich countries to muscle it through when they arrive next week. It effectively is the end of the UN process," said one diplomat, who asked to remain nameless.

www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/08/copenhagen-climate-summit-d
isarray-danish-text


Full text of leaked United Nations Climate Tax Treaty
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/08/copenhagen-climate-c
hange



Climategate: Barack Obama's rule by EPA decree is a coup d'etat against Congress, made in Britain
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geraldwarner/100019206/climategate-b
arack-obamas-rule-by-epa-decree-is-a-coup-detat-against-congress-made-in-britain
/

EPA’s “endangerment finding” allows Big Government to regulate carbon emissions
www.naturalnews.com/027685_CO2_emissions_EPA.html

Krauthammer: EPA Move May Bring a ‘Revolution on the Administration’s Hands’
www.breitbart.tv/krauthammer-epa-move-may-bring-a-revolution-on-the-ad
ministrations-hands
/


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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 8:58 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


You still haven't addressed the question, moron.

The USA still exists. Doesn't the utter failure of your predictions disturb you?

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:17 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!



Cheers -- FOR REAL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Dragon_Tavern

Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
You still haven't addressed the question, moron.

The USA still exists. Doesn't the utter failure of your predictions disturb you?



Does a nation exist if it cannot make it's own laws or keep its own taxes? This treaty does not allow any nation to quit the treaty - FOREVER.

Taxation without representation = Revolutionary War.
www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/index.htm

This Global Warming Tax treaty requires taxation by the mile to turn your car into a govt TAXicab.

Quote:

"OnStar is provided standard for one year on 11 GM vehicles."
-TV advert for Govt Motors, 8 Dec 2009



IMF Bank Corporation controls and profits from 100% of this Climate Tax "treaty", not United Nations Corporation.

That's who owns YOU.

http://www.imf.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund

IMF rountinely bankrupts entire nations, assassinates politicians and intentionally starts civil wars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man


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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:25 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
But on the topic of the USA ceasing to exist, anyone else having a problem reaching google or yahoo? is internet search being retooled to go through some great firewall filter, and will tomorrow's news claim that this was all "some massive virus attack (sorry, I'm no longer buying that story.)


They're hooking up more surveillance shit, as usual, DT - not like they even bother much to hide it anymore.

I love how Google is trying to put off holding your last six months worth of search history as a "feature" to skew results towards your interests.

But technology is, and always will be, a double edged sword - the more complex they make the machines, the easier it becomes to jam them up.

-F

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:44 AM

PIRATENEWS

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Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:

But on the topic of the USA ceasing to exist, anyone else having a problem reaching google or yahoo? is internet search being retooled to go through some great firewall filter, and will tomorrow's news claim that this was all "some massive virus attack (sorry, I'm no longer buying that story.)




Commie Russian drag queen Sergey Brin owner of Google the "26th richest person in the world"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin

Google just cancelled all video uploads, FOREVER.

Yahoo just deleted 100% of its 100-million free websites.

Nothing to fear. Baaaarack to sleep.

Quote:

In everyone's life, there are moments that they know will change their future forever. I had such a moment thirty years ago today but at the time I could never have imagined the magnitude of the impact. That was the day my family first arrived in the United States.

The journey to get here was challenging. Just applying to leave the Soviet Union branded us with a scarlet letter -- my father lost his job and we received visits from the police. However, after nine months in this status we were able to make our way to Austria and then France where we stayed for four months waiting for our American visas. With few real possessions and no steady income, times were hard but there were people who helped us all along the way. Finally, we landed in New York on October 25th, 1979. Thanks to many organizations and individuals, we were able to start life anew in this land.

There are too many people and organizations for me to properly thank in this post but I would like to highlight a few:

Jewish Federation DC www.shalomdc.org helped to settle us in the US.

Sergey Brin, Oct 25, 2009
http://too.blogspot.com



KGB? Since when were families allowed to leave the Commie Iron Curtain in the middle of the Cold War?


Goyim immigrant at Berlin Wall

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 10:41 AM

JAMERON4EVA


Quote:

Originally posted by peacekeeper:
Looks like Jameron doesn't understand humour!!!And anyway,the US were rather late in chipping in to the past two world wars.But I'm certain you'll be bang on time for number three.

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!



Ha..... only if we folow you British. Do we have inbreads running our country, because 95% of YOUR gov't is. All you Brits are still stiffling to take the US back, from the inside, because you KNOW that we would kick your asses back across the pond again.

And by the way, we got involved in world war II a Two years after we started, officially, unofficially, we had been giving your asses plains since the Germans were kicking your asses in the Battle of Britain. Yes you were producing more plains than the Germans were, but half of them were getting shoot down as soon as they saw battle. And for yopu Ruskies, WE beat Germany, the only reason YOU entered first was a PR gimmick. Now i'm the first to admit, you had steem from Stalingrad, but the majority of the German Army was off facing us, and we still got there first. President Roosevelt and the Great Winston Churchill, one Brit i could support, ALLOWED your forces to enter first, and look at the results, over 50 years of oppression under the iron curtain.

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 11:23 AM

STORYMARK


Jameron.... I know your a High School kid and all, but could you stop making it SOOOO obvious?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 12:14 PM

BYTEMITE


Jameron, wikipedia Napoleon sometime, then wikipedia the Battle of Stalingrad.

Russia entering Germany first may have been a PR gimmick, but the Russians killed more Germans than anyone, and the two front war was a MAJOR factor in the allies winning WW2. Trying to invade Russia in the winter is pure idiocy, and the Nazis made the same mistake.

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 12:26 PM

PEACEKEEPER

Keeping order in every verse


Quote:

Originally posted by jameron4eva:
Quote:

Originally posted by peacekeeper:
Looks like Jameron doesn't understand humour!!!And anyway,the US were rather late in chipping in to the past two world wars.But I'm certain you'll be bang on time for number three.

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!



Ha..... only if we folow you British. Do we have inbreads running our country, because 95% of YOUR gov't is. All you Brits are still stiffling to take the US back, from the inside, because you KNOW that we would kick your asses back across the pond again.

And by the way, we got involved in world war II a Two years after we started, officially, unofficially, we had been giving your asses plains since the Germans were kicking your asses in the Battle of Britain. Yes you were producing more plains than the Germans were, but half of them were getting shoot down as soon as they saw battle. And for yopu Ruskies, WE beat Germany, the only reason YOU entered first was a PR gimmick. Now i'm the first to admit, you had steem from Stalingrad, but the majority of the German Army was off facing us, and we still got there first. President Roosevelt and the Great Winston Churchill, one Brit i could support, ALLOWED your forces to enter first, and look at the results, over 50 years of oppression under the iron curtain.

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

Jameron, I thought it was quite obvious from the tone of my posts that I am being tongue in cheek.It's called humour,irony,social banter.You are ranting on like a moonbrain with no concern for fact or scale..Take a chill pill, dude.We have enough eejits around. Hell, you might even think I'm one of em, but play nice.

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 12:32 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by jameron4eva:

And by the way, we got involved in world war II a Two years after we started, officially, unofficially, we had been giving your asses plains since the Germans were kicking your asses in the Battle of Britain. Yes you were producing more plains than the Germans were, but half of them were getting shoot down as soon as they saw battle. And for yopu Ruskies, WE beat Germany, the only reason YOU entered first was a PR gimmick. Now i'm the first to admit, you had steem from Stalingrad, but the majority of the German Army was off facing us, and we still got there first. President Roosevelt and the Great Winston Churchill, one Brit i could support, ALLOWED your forces to enter first, and look at the results, over 50 years of oppression under the iron curtain.




Jameron, you REALLY need to study up on the German Eastern Front sometime. You would simply be stunned by what you found out. And you'd be further stunned by the levels of brutality on both sides of the war between the Nazis and the Soviets. And the Soviets killed FAR more Nazi soldiers than the west ever even thought about killing. We're talking HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of German soldiers killed in single battles. We're talking hundreds of thousands CAPTURED, in a strict "no prisoners" conflict between Germany and Russia. What do you suppose happened to those captured Germans?

The Battle of Stalingrad alone devoured more than 850,000 Axis soldiers, among them 400,000 Germans killed or captured. Of that number, fewer than 5000 ever returned to Germany, and many of those only in 1955, after being freed from the Gulags they were held in.

The Western Front NEVER faced "the majority of the German army" once Hitler initiated Operation Barbarossa and invaded Russia.



Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 2:07 PM

GINOBIFFARONI


The Battle of Kursk was the largest modern engagement in history,

This was the last gasp for the German army, if they even had a hope here... no matter how brilliant their commanders and troops were, no matter how well designed their equipment, no matter how good their plan...

Soviet logistics, and the concept of defensive envelopment swallowed whatever remaining combat power the Germans had to offer...

The war in the east was just a series of retreats after this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kursk


Many US strategists held the opinion in 1942, what should be done is to deploy all US forces to the Philippines and China in order to fight Japan to a standstill. A political decision was made to enter North Africa, and reinforce the European theater instead, not because Germany was the greater threat, but to occupy at least some of Western Europe before Stalin did.

North Africa, Italy and Normandy were all fought in order to prevent the Communists from overrunning ALL of Europe, and the troops in the Philippines were abandoned in order to make that possible.




Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists


Lets party like its 1939

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 4:31 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Trying to invade Russia in the winter is pure idiocy, and the Nazis made the same mistake.


So is trying to invade Afghanistan, and the Russians made that one, and then WE did.

Proof positive that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

-F

ETA: Let's hope none of our leaders are stupid enough to invade Finland, cause that was even WORSE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
http://kaiku.com/winterwar.html

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 8:25 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!



Castrated at Copenhagen

Climate Reparations
http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/2009/12/climate-reparations.html


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Wednesday, December 9, 2009 6:30 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Al Gore caught lying again this week:

Quote:

“These are private [Climategate] e-mails, more than 10 years old, and they've tried to blow it up into something that it's really not. The most recent is more than 10 years old. They're close to getting a final agreement [at Hopenhagen COP15]. It will will probably be finalized next year after the political agreement that's expected next week.”
-Al Gore, CNN
www.france24.com/en/node/4944314



Uh, actually the latest email is 1 month old.
www.infowars.com/gore-peddles-lies-and-spin-to-defend-bankrupt-climate
-change-agenda
/

The internet didn't exist much longer than 10 years. Which was not invented by Al Gore. The only thing invented by Al Gore is "global warming".

The UN (IMF Bank) Global Warming Tax Treaty will genocide third world nations, by a global income tax and global gas tax.

UK Group Proposes Using Carbon Tax to Stop Poor From Breeding
www.corbettreport.com/articles/20091209_optimum_population.htm

Obama's EPA Declares Humans a Toxic Waste, Orders “Command-and-Control” Martial Law Economy for Global Warming Global Tax
www.infowars.com/epa-threatens-command-and-control-economy-to-push-cli
mate-change-agenda
/




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Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:32 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Al Gored by Man Bear Pig:





BTW, Blood & Gore's Hopenhagen Climategate Global Tax Scam will genocide billions of starving sheeple.

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Friday, December 11, 2009 9:31 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




Commie China demands all nations agree to 1-child-per-family genocide law in Hopenhagen Treaty
www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-12/10/content_9151129.htm

Canadian newspaper demands mandatory 1-child-per-family genocide law
www.prisonplanet.com/furious-reaction-to-sick-editorial-calling-for-gl
obal-one-child-dictatorship.html


Organized Crime in Charge of EU Carbon Trade, Europol Says
www.infowars.com/organized-crime-in-charge-of-eu-carbon-trade-europol-
says
/

UN landgrab annexes 90% of Earth surface for Global Taxes
www.infowars.com/un-may-end-400-year-old-freedom-of-the-seas/

EU Wants Global Transaction Tax To Fund More Bailouts
www.prisonplanet.com/now-eu-wants-global-transaction-tax-to-fund-more-
bailouts.html


Psychiatrist calls liberals 'mentally ill' with 'Psychological Causes of Political Madness'
www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56494

Quote:

Not only did Al Gore invent the internet, he has also redefined earth science. The puffed up phrophet of the phony climate change movement went on the Conan O’Brien Show in mid-November and told the world the temperature of the interior of the earth is “millions of degrees.” O’Brien didn’t flinch.

www.infowars.com/science-according-to-al-gore-earth-interior-millions-
of-degrees
/





Global Warming Xmas music
http://minnesotansforglobalwarming.com/m4gw/videos/

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Friday, December 11, 2009 9:50 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


pay no attention to PirateSnooze

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Friday, December 11, 2009 11:34 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I don't, Jaynes, believe me...just posting to correct title back to its original meaning.

Partly 'cuz, whoever changed it: IT'S AFGHAN!! The CURRENCY is Afghani, or "Af" (I even heard DiFi say it on TV last night; resisted the impulse to write to her...).

So if the title changer meant Afghan CURRENCY is multiplying, hey, how, GREAT! Maybe they can pay off their own military!




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Friday, December 11, 2009 12:49 PM

DREAMTROVE


hey, let's all invest in afghanistan




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Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:48 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Police Anarchists and Rentamobs Demanding Globalist Agenda Arrested at Copenhagen
www.prisonplanet.com/hundreds-demanding-globalist-agenda-arrested-at-c
openhagen.html


UN 'Police' Stop Journalist’s Questions About ClimateGate
www.noteviljustwrong.com
http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/11/un-security-stops-journalists-ques
tions-about-climategate
/

Note how Hopenhagen logo looks like an HIV virus...



Prior documentary about Al Gore by the arrested journalist:



Quote:

Afghani and Bangladesh famalies breeding like Rats despite Hopenhagen, now they want Universal Welfare


So are Demorats.

Quote:

"ObamaCare is now almost as unpopular as it is monstrous."
-James Taranto, Wall Street Journal (owned by Deng Wen Di in Commie China)



50-million illegal alien Catholics can't be wrong.

Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:

hey, let's all invest in afghanistan



Buy some heroin today! Poppies are Green.


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Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:22 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!



ARREST PHOTOS: COP15 Police State Copenhagen Climate Change Summit 2009
www.flickr.com/photos/kk/sets/72157622857433731/



Quote:



Police Arrest 1,000 'Anarchists' to Stop 100,000 Rentamob at Hopenhagen, as Delegates Ban Delegates from Secret Meetings

Inside the Bella Centre, delegates at the COP15 climate summit gathered around flat-screen TVs, showing both the police crackdown and the peaceful rally of environmental compaigners.


Rentamob sign contractor made million$ on monopoly

Despite the protesters' urgings, there are growing fears that the summit could degenerate into an undignified global squabbling match with poor nations accusing their rich counterparts of forging a "backroom deal" at a secret dinner.

The split that the meeting has exposed between wealthy and impoverished nations was laid bare with news that ministers from a select clique of 40 countries were dining together away from the summit venue.

The meal, held behind closed doors at an undisclosed location, was viewed as a last-ditch attempt to cobble together a politically acceptable deal after a week of discussions marred by in-fighting, and "greener than thou" posturing over who is most to blame for global warming.
Ministers are desperate to have a document ready when heads of state arrive for the final stages of the two-week conference on Thursday.

Leading them will be Gordon Brown, who has fashioned himself as a global champion in the battle against climate change, and who is arriving ahead of other top statesmen in a bid to stamp his authority on the meeting.

But so far officials from 194 countries have failed to make any substantive agreements on even the most basic goals.

"A lot of the deals are done in back rooms but there has to be transparency at the same time," said Keith Allott, of the World Wildlife Fund, which claims smaller nations are being left out of the process.

www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6799264/Cope
nhagen-climate-summit-1000-anarchists-arrested.html

www.canada.com/Copenhagen+climate+change+protest+heats+with+police+cla
shes+arrests/2336125/story.html



Quote:

ClimateGate: Global warming looking more like a hoax

Newschief.com

"The East Anglia Climatic Unit that supplies global warming data to the U.N., has been implicated in scientific fraud with: data manipulation, deletions and fabrication," says Donald Reinhardt, a Scientific Inquiry feature writer.

You can read all the unit's hacked e-mails, which were posted Nov. 29 on a Russian server at www.HarryReidMe.com. These e-mails have since been verified by The New York Times. Amazing!

Yet the energy cap-and-trade bill is still sitting around in Congress. This bill that could cost us more than $100 trillion. It's astonishing how we have bypassed "billions" and went right into "trillions" with hardly a blink. In a few years, it will be "zillions" of dollars and we'll wonder how we got there.

We must stop the government spending now. We need to get and keep ourselves out of debt and our government needs to do the same. It's an absolute necessity for our country to be solvent.

We must stop this bill. It will serve no purpose other than to bankrupt us. It is commonly believed that the Earth has been cooling down for the past 11 years. The global-warming scientists have been hiding and manipulating this fact. We need to stop being led around like sheep to the slaughter.

www.newschief.com/article/20091209/NEWS/912095031/1021/NEWS01?Title=Cl
imateGate-Global-warming-looking-more-like-a-hoax




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Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:42 AM

GINOBIFFARONI


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
I don't, Jaynes, believe me...just posting to correct title back to its original meaning.

Partly 'cuz, whoever changed it: IT'S AFGHAN!! The CURRENCY is Afghani, or "Af" (I even heard DiFi say it on TV last night; resisted the impulse to write to her...).

So if the title changer meant Afghan CURRENCY is multiplying, hey, how, GREAT! Maybe they can pay off their own military!










Not likely

Afghan army 'in need of US funds'

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/12/20091286465494232.html

" Hamid Karzai, the Afghan president, has warned it may take 15 years before his war-torn country can pay for its own security forces.

After talks with Robert Gates, the visiting US defence secretary, in Kabul on Tuesday, Karzai said he believed the US and the international community would continue funding the Afghan national army and police. "

even worse


US 'militarising' Afghanistan aid

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/12/200912126017915711.html

Aid groups working in Afghanistan have accused the US of trying to "militarise" their work by attaching conditions to aid and grants.

A number of aid organisations have told Al Jazeera they have turned down funding from the US government as the money has strings attached to military operations.

One such stipulation is "battlefield clean-up", which tasks aid groups with working directly under military reconstruction teams.

Anne Richard, of the International Rescue Committee, told Al Jazeera: "Sometimes, military leaders assume that because we are in the same place, we share the same over-arching goals.

"Our goal is to help the Afghan people - ideally, they help themselves. The military's goal is to fight in a war and to provide security.

"They are motivated by US national interest, we are motivated by humanitarian causes, humanitarian principals."


surge = fail





Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists


Lets party like its 1939

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:49 AM

DREAMTROVE


Gino

Quote:

surge = fail


I was about give kudos to Niki for boiling the mideast situation down to two words, kudos to you. Niki seems to be teal. Maybe you should be a dif color ;)

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