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Tuesday, June 2, 2009 5:46 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Bush critics criticize Obama

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/busted-pentagon-why-the-p_b_2
09046.html


Busted Pentagon: Why the photos probably do show detainees sodomized and raped
by Naomi Wolf

The Telegraph of London broke the news - because the US press is in a drugged stupor -- that the photos Obama is refusing to release of detainee abuse depict, among other sexual tortures, an American soldier raping a female detainee and a male translator raping a male prisoner. The paper claims the photos also show anal rape of prisoners with foreign objects such as wires and lightsticks. Major General Antonio Taguba calls the images `horrific' and `indecent' (but absurdly agrees that Obama should not release them - proving once again that the definition of hypocrisy is the assertion that the truth is in poor taste)....



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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-cusack/a-war-on-terror-by-any-ot_b_
204887.html


War on Terror by Any Other Name
by John Cusack

Like many other American progressive-types (title for sake of argument), I voted for Obama and hope every day he'll facilitate the change he promised. A big part of the change progressives interpreted that promise to mean was to bring an end to the Bush administration's "War on Terror." The White House no longer uses the term -- but how much of a break has the new administration really made?...




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Tuesday, June 2, 2009 7:11 AM

GINOBIFFARONI


http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,622382,00.html

My opinion, If Bush and Cheney and others can be charged and tried over this...

Perhaps it would be fair if Obama was also tried as an accessory after the fact. If he continues as he is going, he surely would be guilty.




" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson


Lets party like its 1939

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Tuesday, June 2, 2009 7:14 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:


Perhaps it would be fair if Obama was also tried as an accessory after the fact. If he continues as he is going, he surely would be guilty.


I need to move off-world.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, June 2, 2009 7:17 AM

STARTROOP


I am building this huge slingshot in my backyard. If I can find the right polymer for the rubber band, maybe we could do it ;-)

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Tuesday, June 2, 2009 7:53 AM

FREMDFIRMA


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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Perhaps it would be fair if Obama was also tried as an accessory after the fact. If he continues as he is going, he surely would be guilty.


Amen!

Chris, you'll have to get in line behind me - but that's ok, if I DO every get a ship, you can be first officer... and look on the bright side, every time the kid smarts off, we can make him clean the bilges!

Oh, wait, do spaceships even have bilges ?


-F

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Tuesday, June 2, 2009 8:01 AM

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN


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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I need to move off-world.

Going on a trip Chris? Need safe passage? We're cheap. *BSCM points to a ship*

The BRUTIS..We're cheap...clean. Best ship in the verse. What's your des Chris? We're hitting the outter rings.


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Tuesday, June 2, 2009 8:05 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


The US media, including Naomi Wolf, censors the fact that the "male prisoner" is the child of a prisoner, raped while his parents are made to watch. And the woman prisoner was raped in fron of her husband. While GW Bush watched on DVD.

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Tuesday, June 2, 2009 8:37 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by piratenews:
The US media, including Naomi Wolf, censors the fact that the "male prisoner" is the child of a prisoner, raped while his parents are made to watch. And the woman prisoner was raped in fron of her husband.



This I don't doubt. John Yoo and Jay Bybee have all but admitted as much in their "justifications" for torture, stating that "it would depend on the President's intent" whether or not crushing a child's testicles in front of his parents would constitute torture or not, or if it was permissable to rape a child in front of his or her parents in the name of "interrogation".

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From Wiki, et al:
On December 1, 2005, Yoo appeared in a debate in Chicago with University of Notre Dame professor Doug Cassel. During the debate Cassel asked Yoo, "If the president deems that he's got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person's child, there is no law that can stop him?", to which Yoo replied "No treaty." Cassel followed up with "Also no law by Congress — that is what you wrote in the August 2002 memo...", to which Yoo replied "I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that."



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While GW Bush watched on DVD.



This part I doubt.



Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.


"You're a idiot." -AuRaptor, RWED, May 27, 2009.

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Tuesday, June 2, 2009 9:24 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Christ! So where's the line to get into to give Obama a swift kick where it hurts????

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

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Tuesday, June 2, 2009 9:53 AM

FREMDFIRMA


*points to the voting booths*

Me, I'm down with impeachment, even now - he's had MORE than enough time.

There's no decision worse, than NO decision.

-F

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Tuesday, June 2, 2009 10:17 AM

GINOBIFFARONI


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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:


Perhaps it would be fair if Obama was also tried as an accessory after the fact. If he continues as he is going, he surely would be guilty.


I need to move off-world.


The laughing Chrisisall



Could be worse, Mitt Romney could be President......



" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson


Lets party like its 1939

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Tuesday, June 2, 2009 10:45 AM

SERGEANTX


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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Could be worse, Mitt Romney could be President...



Fair to say, but the way I see it, "could be worse" thinking is what gets us into these messes. We gotta quit settling for "not-quite-as-bad-as-the-other-guy".

We've got a system that let's us choose from two, pre-approved, "safe" candidates. I don't know what it'll take to break through that.

SergeantX

"It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah"

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Tuesday, June 2, 2009 10:58 AM

GINOBIFFARONI


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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Quote:

Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Could be worse, Mitt Romney could be President...



Fair to say, but the way I see it, "could be worse" thinking is what gets us into these messes. We gotta quit settling for "not-quite-as-bad-as-the-other-guy".

We've got a system that let's us choose from two, pre-approved, "safe" candidates. I don't know what it'll take to break through that.

SergeantX

"It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah"



Usually it requires either an invasion, or a civil war to foster the total makeover of a political system.

or a coup....




" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson


Lets party like its 1939

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