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Pro-Choice Activist Killed by Christo-Fascist Radicals!

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Friday, June 12, 2009 9:20 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"Any responsiblity there for MSNBC and NBC for the American soldier's senseless murder like you're trying to hang on O'Reilly's neck?"

You mean b/c they reported on it AFTER the fact ?

Do you have any proof MSNBC and NBC demonized the recruiter beforehand ? Any recruiters ? Any incitement at all ?

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I'm guessing you're going with the the blinkers, plugged ears, and loud humming.

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Friday, June 12, 2009 9:25 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
It would help, Jongssy, if you had any facts on your side but you don't. You're just a fool. And a tool.


Ooh, I love it when you talk dirty like that to me. Gimme more...it feels soooo good! Speaking of tools, apparently A-Rod's available to knock up you or daughter any time. Pretty damn funny, right?

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Friday, June 12, 2009 9:29 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"Any responsiblity there for MSNBC and NBC for the American soldier's senseless murder like you're trying to hang on O'Reilly's neck?"

You mean b/c they reported on it AFTER the fact ?

Do you have any proof MSNBC and NBC demonized the recruiter beforehand ? Any recruiters ? Any incitement at all ?



Missed my first post huh? Here it is again. Try again...

"Olbermann/ Madow: Said Bush & Cheney are war criminals hundreds of times

Olbermann/Madow: Said America is a torture nation hundreds of times

Olbermann/Madow: Said US soldiers kill innocent Muslims hundreds of times
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Now a US Muslim goes out and kills a US Army recruiter purely for revenge for Islam last week. AP interviews killer who admits doing the murder, but thinks it's justified."

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Friday, June 12, 2009 9:33 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Where? Have I ever said that the Pentagon should be bombed, like Bill said that al Qaida should bomb San Fran? Have I ever insinuated that it would be a nice thing if someone would take out George Bush? Or that it was too bad that Flight 93 didn't reach its destination? Or that we "should have strapped him (them, they) into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his {their) ass into a large, empty field."?

It would help, Jongssy, if you had any facts on your side but you don't. That big bulky doublethink that you and so many like you are disabled by... the one that causes you to see some things one way and the exact same thing differently... the chasm that separates one thought from another... It's staring you right in the face, at the end of every one of my posts, but you can't see it. You're just a fool. And a tool.-Signy

Ooh, I love it when you talk dirty like that to me. Gimme more...it feels soooo good! Speaking of tools, A-Rod's available to knock you up any time you want. You'd like that, right-Jongsstraw

I guess you have no examples of how I've incited violence? Any about how Maddow has incited violence?

Tell ya what: For each one I come up with from O'Reilly, you come up with one from Rachel. Sound good?

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

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Friday, June 12, 2009 9:36 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Tell ya what: For each one I come up with from O'Reilly, you come up with one from Rachel. Sound good?


Now I know you've totally lost it. Better stick with the hate and insults. You make my day.

Sincerely,

Fool and a Tool

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Friday, June 12, 2009 9:38 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Time for Kwikko The Clown to chime in with his bits of brilliance, or any other lemming of your's will do. Waiting!

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Friday, June 12, 2009 9:53 AM

JONGSSTRAW


???

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Friday, June 12, 2009 10:06 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Tell ya what: For each one I come up with from O'Reilly, you come up with one from Rachel. Sound good?- Signy

Now I know you've totally lost it. Better to stick with the hate and insults. I love it, you make my day.-Jongssy

Ah, not up to the challenge of backing up your claims with facts, I see. Meanwhile, for just another example of a right-wing incitement to violence, please read my tagline.

And have a nice day.


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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

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Friday, June 12, 2009 10:19 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"Olbermann/ Madow: Said Bush & Cheney are war criminals hundreds of times
Olbermann/Madow: Said America is a torture nation hundreds of times
Olbermann/Madow: Said US soldiers kill innocent Muslims hundreds of times"

Interesting how simple facts can be viewed by SOME people (you) as demonization.

So, aside from your obviously inflated list - how about just ONE quote of each ? Just one. Then show me how it is 1) untrue and 2) demonization.


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FWIW, I look on communicating with you as a waste of time.

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Friday, June 12, 2009 10:32 AM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by SignyM:
And have a nice day.


I always do thanks to you. Re-read my posts on this topic, show me one scintilla of your willingness to be open & honest, and I may consider your offer. I won't be back until Monday. 'Til then, all the best.


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Friday, June 12, 2009 10:35 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
FWIW, I look on communicating with you as a waste of time.


So what else is new? Don't waste your precious time with the likes of me. Be happy!

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Friday, June 12, 2009 10:56 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Sometimes I wish to waste my time.

I'll be waiting for your answer, which, I suspect, you'll never cough up.

Poor misunderstood (liar) that you are. Any excuse to dodge out of the lie, eh ?

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Silence is consent.

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Friday, June 12, 2009 11:20 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Now a US Muslim goes out and kills a US Army recruiter purely for revenge for Islam last week. AP interviews killer who admits doing the murder, but thinks it's justified.



Show me where that particular recruiter was demonized by Maddow, Olbermann, or MSNBC, by name, BEFORE that nutjob killed him. Show it to me. Show me where they used his name, posted his actual physical address, posted his phone numbers, posted his work location.

THEN I'll believe there's a connection.

Anti-Choice groups like Operation Rescue have done exactly this, time and time again, to people like Tiller, and in fact did it to Tiller as well. Many groups celebrated his murder, some actually called for it beforehand.

People call Bush and Cheney "war criminals" because they may very well BE war criminals. They may yet still face charges for exactly that. There is every indication that they broke numerous U.S. and international laws. That would make them "criminals". Hey, you've referred to Bill Ayres as a "terrorist", even though he was never convicted of ANYTHING. Are you saying that you shouldn't be allowed to call him a terrorist or a criminal?

People call what they did "torture" because it is indeed torture, by any rational definition and by every human-rights group you can name, as well as by every legal source save the few whose paychecks were signed by Bush and Cheney.

People say that U.S. soldiers kill innocent Muslims because U.S. soldiers actually HAVE killed innocent Muslims. The only people who seem to dispute this are you and Rappy. Is it your contention that NO innocent Muslims have been killed in either of our latest wars? If it's not, then what the fuck are you talking about?

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.



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Friday, June 12, 2009 11:22 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Tell ya what: For each one I come up with from O'Reilly, you come up with one from Rachel. Sound good?


Now I know you've totally lost it. Better stick with the hate and insults. You make my day.

Sincerely,

Fool and a Tool



Translation: I've got nothing, but am not man enough to admit it.

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Friday, June 12, 2009 2:58 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Time for Kwikko The Clown to chime in with his bits of brilliance, or any other lemming of your's will do. Waiting!



"your's"?

[Hands StrawMan a dunce cap] Here. You clearly need this more than I.


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Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:50 AM

RIPWASH


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Hey, you've referred to Bill Ayres as a "terrorist", even though he was never convicted of ANYTHING. Are you saying that you shouldn't be allowed to call him a terrorist or a criminal?



I believe it was Bill Ayers himself who said, "Guilty as sin, free as a bird. I love this country!"
And there has been testimony of an undercover CIA agent who was in a planning meeting of the Weather Underground in which Ayers said something to the effect that innocent civilian casualties were acceptable in a time of rebellion.

Just sayin' . . . Ayers WAS a terrorist by his own admission. And Obama knows him personally. Never convicted, never apologized or repented of his actions.

Just sayin' . . .

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"It's okay! I'm a leaf on the wind!!!"
"What does that mean?!?!?!"

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Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:11 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
...when they resort to the only option they got LEFT at that point, in my firm opinion *deserves* a visit to the trauma ward, and would be best advised not to give me an excuse to make it happen.


Actually, abortion is NOT the ONLY option. They could have the child and raise it themselves or have the child and let someone else raise it.

I'm Pro Life, I believe life begins at conception and the State's interest in that life outweighs the mother's right to privacy. I believe that the health and safety of the mother and baby are about the only exceptions I can accept.

As a Lawyer I support Roe v. Wade, the reasoning of Row is sound and will eventually cause abortion to be eliminated. RvW says that the State's interest outweighs the mothers with viability rather then conception being the standard. If science pushes viability back to conception...then the problem is solved, no more abortions thanks to Roe.
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...fills me with a hatred that borders on psychotic...see first hand what monsters people like you really are...if someone offered me the chance to put a bullet in everyone...I would feel about it would be satisfaction...folks like you ain't even human...to be removed and disposed of.


Wow, same argument as the fella with the gun...only on the other side.

I feel bad the fella is dead, I also feel bad about all the dead babies, I feel bad for all the young girls who are tormented by this decision whether because they feel abused by the Lifers, or guilty about killing their baby, or stressed out because they decided to have the baby and its a lot of work.

Lots of bad feelings around this issue. I think thats good. Something like this should not be routine or quiet or easy. Life altering decisions should be hard.

My friend works for a Christian Pregnancy Center. They seek to provide alternatives to planned parenthood including medical support, counseling, adoption screening, etc. Don't think that abortion clinics are the only ones that get threats and abuse.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.




Unless "science" comes up with artificial wombs to gestate fetuses, I think "viability" will remain at the point a fetus can survive on its own outside its mothers womb.

I find it very amusing that the people who condem all forms of birth control and advocate "abstinence" only educations programs are the same people that spew such vitriol about what a woman is allowed to do with her own body. These same people have a heart attack if anyone mentions they should lose a gun or two, but have no problem inteferring with a woman's right to her own body or 2 gay people's basic rights as humans. I find this reality very hard to understand.

As for the very tired "you could always have the baby or put it up for adoption" argument. When all the people that are so against having abortions start putting money in a kitty to pay for all the babies that are either unwanted, or that the mothers would be unable to house and clothe - perhaps then I will listen. Let's call it a case of "put your money where you mouth is". Instead, these self-same "conservatives" don't want to fund the assistance some of these mothers would need, or the day care programs, head start, decent salaries for teachers or more social service staff, etc. etc. etc.

As for Dr Tiller -perhaps the "Christians" that are finding such victory in his death should remember the first commandment.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

Yes We Did!




“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

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