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Thursday, December 4, 2008 5:12 PM

PIRATENEWS

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Planned Parenthood Abortion Gift Certificates for Christmas:






Kill your baby for Jesus, er, Molech
www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Abortion%20is%20Murder/gu
ilt.htm


In 2007, over 1-million children were murdered by medical doctors in USA. But that's part of the PLAN. Over 50-million genocided in USA so far. Gotta make room for 50-million illegal aliens.

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"The most stunning statistic, however, is that the total number of deaths caused by conventional medicine is an astounding 783,936 per year. Using Leape's 1997 medical and drug error rate would add another 216,000 deaths, for a total of 999,936 deaths annually. It is now evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the US."
—Gary Null, PhD; Carolyn Dean MD, ND; Martin Feldman, MD; Debora Rasio, MD; Dorothy Smith, PhD, Life Extension Magazine, Death by Medicine, March 2004 (plus 1.5-Million annual aborticides in USA)
www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_awsi_death_01.htm



95% of the world population is scheduled for genocide ASAP:

Quote:

"A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."
-Ted Turner, founder of CNN News founder of CNN News who was paid $3-billion salary in one day
www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2008/042808_ted_turner.htm




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Thursday, December 4, 2008 6:30 PM

ANTHONYT

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Mr. News,

Please confine this to one thread, rather than spamming multiple threads with the same data.

--Anthony


"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Thursday, December 4, 2008 6:40 PM

PIRATENEWS

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Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Mr. News,

Please confine this to one thread, rather than spamming multiple threads with the same data.

--Anthony


"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner



It's always relevant to mention aborticide and medmalmurders when anyone discusses death statistics, usually relating to guns and cars to "justify" police state death squads.

Are you afraid to comment on this Xmas genicide?

Do you support Xmas genocide?

Are you the Internet Police?

Otherwise stop spamming with non-comments.



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Thursday, December 4, 2008 6:46 PM

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Originally posted by piratenews:
Otherwise stop spamming with non-comments.



That's so funny it's not fair.

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Thursday, December 4, 2008 6:56 PM

PIRATENEWS

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Thursday, December 4, 2008 7:07 PM

ANTHONYT

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Hello Piratenews,

To be very clear on my position, you can not force someone to donate blood, vital organs, or any other part of their body in order to keep someone else alive. Not only can you not morally force them, you can not physically force them. If they don't want to support another human being, they will find ways to avoid it, possibly at great risk to their own lives.

You are advocating nothing less than flesh and blood harvesting, enforced by Federal Death Squads. Worse than raping women, you would deprive them of the choice of what to do with their bodies for an entire nine month period of their lives. Then, after forcing them with Gestapo jackboot enforcers to provide their very lifeblood to keep someone else alive, you offer nothing to compensate them for that brutality.

Your narrow view of freedom is appalling to me. You want to keep the Federal Goon Squads off of your toes, but would insert their grubby hands into the very bodies of your mothers, sisters, and daughters. This is a most dangerous game you are playing at, and you need to rethink it.

--Anthony



"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Thursday, December 4, 2008 10:46 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Wow, that was harsh Anthony, although I would be a liar if I didn't say that was exactly my sentiments, in detail, on the topic.

If this issue bothers folk so much they should concentrate on the other end, preventing the unwanted and unwelcome pregnancy in the first place.

That seems the saner, and more humane, course of action.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Thursday, December 4, 2008 11:34 PM

AGENTROUKA


Anthony, this beautifully sums up what this is really about for pro-choice people. Thank you.






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Friday, December 5, 2008 2:48 AM

KWICKO

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If this issue bothers folk so much they should concentrate on the other end, preventing the unwanted and unwelcome pregnancy in the first place.



Nah - that'd mean that they'd actually have to TALK to kids about sex, in something other than the "just say no" sense. Can't have that, can we? And what better message to give to your children? "Okay, Junior - it's time you knew about sex. It's where children come from, but it's evil. Don't do it. And don't ask how you got here, either. Mommy and Daddy are evil, and so are every other parent in the world, but don't you be evil."

And they wonder why their kids are so fucked in the head (and elsewhere) when it comes to sex...




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Friday, December 5, 2008 4:46 AM

ANTHONYT

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"Wow, that was harsh Anthony"

Hello,

I'm sorry Frem. I try to use a softer shoe, usually, when treading contentious ground.

I must confess it is an emotional hotbutton issue for me when freedom fighters fight valiantly for freedoms... but only the ones they approve of. Those other freedoms, the ones they don't enjoy, they'd like to take away from the folks that have them.

For me, the Freedom to do what you want with your own body is at the top of the list.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, December 5, 2008 5:08 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

I must confess it is an emotional hotbutton issue for me when freedom fighters fight valiantly for freedoms... but only the ones they approve of. Those other freedoms, the ones they don't enjoy, they'd like to take away from the folks that have them.

How very ironic.

Considering that's one of the all time top five ways of pissin me off too.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BerserkButton

You know, we're a LOT alike, save for the fact that imma fucking barbarian.

RRRRARRRGHHH!

-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, December 5, 2008 5:27 AM

ANTHONYT

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LOL!

I don't know how I would describe myself. I'm not sure I have a historical allegory.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, December 5, 2008 6:32 AM

PIRATENEWS

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Killing your own children is freedom of choice, so cosmetic corporations and mad docs can cannibalize them for profit?

In your "old" age or with your premature 50% cancer rate, when denied food, water and medical treatment strapped down to your bed in a hospice death camp, remember your freedom of choice to kill the family that would've taken care of you for free. Or do you think Terri Shiavo was the exception to the Golden Rule of stealing pensions?

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Jews in Jerusalem killing their babies for Molech, before being captured into slavery in Babylon (Iraq)

Moloch.
an ancient Phoenician and Ammonite god, to whom children were sacrificed by burning.
-Webster's New World Dictionary

"And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones. And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name. And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not: Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people."
-Leviticus 20:1-5, Christian Bible KJV

"And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as did David his father. Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon."
-1 Kings 11:6-7, Christian Bible KJV

"Because of all the evil of the children of Israel and of the children of Judah, which they have done to provoke me to anger, they, their kings, their princes, their priests, and their prophets, and the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And they have turned unto me the back, and not the face: though I taught them, rising up early and teaching them, yet they have not hearkened to receive instruction. But they set their abominations in the house, which is called by my name, to defile it. And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin."
-Jeremiah 32:32-35, Christian Bible KJV

"And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
-Leviticus 18:21-22, Christian Bible KJV


Bush Gang, Bill Clinton-Blythe Rockefeller and Bush's cousin Obama performing "mock" human sacrifice to 50-foot tall idol of Molech/Lucifer/Satan at Jewish Bohemian Grove. That's a "live" human body burning as it screams in agony over the loudspeakers. Photo copyright Bohemian Club Corporation annual yearbook

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The only purpose of abortion is the violent overthrow of Western Civilization, to be replaced by Catholic and Muslim barbarians banning condoms.

The Jews sit back and laugh at your foolishness, all the way to the $8-trillion Bankster Bailout Bill. Machivelli would be creepified.

Don't be a sucker for the scam. If you don't want your baby, sell it for adoption at $50,000 (black) to $250,000 (blond blue-eyed).

Funny how killing 50-million babies in USA has now resulted in economic Depression, replaced by 50-million illegal aliens taking all the jobs, and enslavement of Amerikans by the police state. Where's the economic advantage?

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Friday, December 5, 2008 6:40 AM

HERO


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Originally posted by piratenews:
Do you support Xmas genocide?


I not fond of elves...

H

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Friday, December 5, 2008 6:40 AM

RUE


PN

Have you ever considered you might benefit from medication ? No snark intended, just a thought you might want to mull over.

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Friday, December 5, 2008 6:53 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Worse than raping women, you would deprive them of the choice of what to do with their bodies for an entire nine month period of their lives.


How is that worse then raping them?

Besides, its the Constitution that says they don't have that choice. Thats why women can't have abortions after a particular point.

In Roe v. Wade the Court says that the State's interest in the life of the child outweighs the woman's right to choose. The court's ONLY concession to women is that the State's interest begins at viability, not conception (a line that should be moving as science pushes viability closer to conception).

H

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Friday, December 5, 2008 6:56 AM

RUE


"Thats why women can't have abortions after a particular point."

Not completely true. Women CAN have abortions up to the last month of pregnancy under specific circumstances. There is a necessary balance struck between two lives, with the life of the mother taking precedence.


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Friday, December 5, 2008 7:18 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


"How is that worse then raping them?"

Hello,

Rape removes a woman's control over her body for minutes or hours.

Nine months of violation is clearly a greater harm.

I will concede only this - if the removed fetus is capable of sustaining itself, then I have no problem with putting it into an adoption program instead of a biohazard bin.

Pirate - If these fetuses are all worth 50-250k dollars, then anti-abortion activists should be standing in front of Abortion Clinics with suitcases full of money and birthing contracts, rather than signs and pamphlets. I think you'll find that your mouth is writing checks that society won't cash.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, December 5, 2008 7:21 AM

CHRISISALL

Down the centuries you have slurred the meaning of the words, WE THE PEOPLE...


Go AnthonyT!!!!


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Friday, December 5, 2008 7:27 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Ahhh...the perfect gift for your favorite whore this Christmas...

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Friday, December 5, 2008 7:39 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Ahhh...the perfect for your favorite whore this Christmas...



I guess you'd know.

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Friday, December 5, 2008 7:40 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Now, Story, dont speak about your daughter like that....

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Friday, December 5, 2008 7:44 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello Piratenews,

To be very clear on my position, you can not force someone to donate blood, vital organs, or any other part of their body in order to keep someone else alive. Not only can you not morally force them, you can not physically force them. If they don't want to support another human being, they will find ways to avoid it, possibly at great risk to their own lives.

You are advocating nothing less than flesh and blood harvesting, enforced by Federal Death Squads. Worse than raping women, you would deprive them of the choice of what to do with their bodies for an entire nine month period of their lives. Then, after forcing them with Gestapo jackboot enforcers to provide their very lifeblood to keep someone else alive, you offer nothing to compensate them for that brutality.

Your narrow view of freedom is appalling to me. You want to keep the Federal Goon Squads off of your toes, but would insert their grubby hands into the very bodies of your mothers, sisters, and daughters. This is a most dangerous game you are playing at, and you need to rethink it.

--Anthony



"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner



anthonyT,

Very well put. Thank you.



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Friday, December 5, 2008 7:53 AM

PIRATENEWS

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Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello Piratenews,

To be very clear on my position, you can not force someone to donate blood, vital organs, or any other part of their body in order to keep someone else alive. Not only can you not morally force them, you can not physically force them. If they don't want to support another human being, they will find ways to avoid it, possibly at great risk to their own lives.



Ambulances now kill you and harvest your organs, WITHOUT a signed contract for organ donation. $500,000 of scooped-out bodyparts is far more profitable than a $1,000 ambulance taxi. Doctors gotta pay their million-dollar mortagages for themselves and their companions.

Quote:

"Ethicists and emergency medicine experts are raising concerns over New York City's plan to dispatch the first ambulance service in the country equipped to preserve the organs of the newly deceased. They question whether the organ-preserving ambulances will create tension among EMTs who may be charged both to save lives and to preserve organs for reuse. The aim of the Rapid Organ Recovery Ambulance service, city officials say, is to buy precious time for families to decide whether they want their loved ones' organs to be donated to needy patients. New York City plans to start the service rolling within a month. And the plan, which has already received federal funding, is being eyed as a possibility by other emergency medical departments. The services provided by such ambulances -- namely, efforts to save the organs of the newly dead without direct consent -- have some concerns among some experts. 'Will raising organ donation follow pronouncement of death, or will people come to know that the organ donation ambulance has been sent, making them wonder if their relative got a full press of rescue care?' said Arthur Caplan, director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia. 'This is called violating the dead donor rule -- no organ donation [discussion] raised prior to pronouncement of death.' Far more troubling is the idea that emergency medical personnel staffing the ambulances could be faced with a dilemma of either doing everything possible to save a patient, or acting with the chief interest of saving organs. 'If it is an ambulance for the living or the dead, you run into an ethical dilemma,' O'Brien said. 'The ambulance has an obligation to the people of their service area to go back into service after a call, as soon as possible. This sounds like they may be tied up transporting and working on literally a deceased person, and not be available for others.' Mehlman adds that some may worry whether the responders on such an ambulance would be under any pressure to stop trying to revive a patient in order to begin saving his or her organs."
—Dan Childs, ABC News Medical Unit, Ethicists Debate Ambulance for Organs - Some Worry New York City Plan Could Give Living Patients the Short Shrift, May 9, 2008
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Story?id=4822866&page=1


Police death squad vampires suck blood on the side of a highway without a signed contract for consent.
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"AUSTIN, Texas (KXAN) -- Three days after Marble Falls police took their first driving while intoxicated suspect to the hospital armed with a search warrant for a blood draw, Seton Highland Lakes Medical Center in Burnet announced they will no longer adhere to the court order. "There were some issues," said Capt. Roger Sooter, with the Marble Falls Police Department. "But the draw was made, then we received the letter from the administrator." Seton Highland Lakes Medical Center Administrator, Scott Fuller, wrote a letter to city and county officials Oct. 6 that stated "effective immediately, the Highland Lakes Medical Center will not draw specimens under a search warrant. Please do not transport persons to the hospital for that purpose." Marble Falls police had just launched the new DWI blood warrant program for Burnet County. All county and district judges agreed to sign off on search warrants requiring a blood test when a suspect refuses a breath test. "We do not understand [Seton's] stance," said Burnet County Judge Donna Klaeger. Klaeger e-mailed a letter to Fuller and Seton's legal counsel, questioning the hospital's position. As of Monday, neither the county, nor the Marble Falls Police Department had received an explanation. "We asked them to provide us the legality of being able to say no to a court order," said Klaeger. Monday afternoon, Greg Hartman, the Senior Vice President of the Seton Family of Hospitals e-mailed a statement explaining their position. Hartman said "there is a conflict in state law." Hartman wrote "there are other situations where it is questionable whether a licensed hospital can draw blood from a person without an order from a qualified practitioner to draw blood or consent is obtained directly from the suspect without coercion." Some of the issues involved distinctions between privately-owned versus county and other types of hospitals. Monday, Seton said they will only draw blood under a search warrant if a person is arrested, caused an accident that resulted in injuries or death due to alcohol, and they refuse a voluntary blood test. In the meantime, Burnet County law enforcement officials can take DWI suspects who refuse a breath test to Llano Memorial Hospital in Llano."
—KXAN TV, Hospital refuses to draw blood for police cases, Oct 16, 2008
www.kxan.com/Global/story.asp?S=9171087&rnd=16.187497831542885


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Friday, December 5, 2008 8:01 AM

RIVERLOVE


Planned Parenthood is in quite a bit of trouble these days. Criminal investigations in several states. They are NOT reporting statutory rapes of underage girls to the authorities, which is a felony. Additionally, they are councilling these underage victims of statutory rape to seek abortions in neighboring states where parental notification is not required.

So rather than report that a 13 year old girl got pregnant by some 30 year old man, maybe a friend, maybe her brother, maybe her father...they don't care.....their agenda is:
1) get the abortion
2) here's some condoms for next time

It's downright sickening, 'cause then these girls go right back into the same bad situation that got them abused and knocked up in the first place. They are NOT looking out for the well-being of these underage rape victims. I expect to see PP indicted in several states, and ultimately perhaps a national debate whether $300 million of our tax dollars should continue to fund this criminally out of control organization.

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Friday, December 5, 2008 8:03 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
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If this issue bothers folk so much they should concentrate on the other end, preventing the unwanted and unwelcome pregnancy in the first place.



Nah - that'd mean that they'd actually have to TALK to kids about sex, in something other than the "just say no" sense. Can't have that, can we? And what better message to give to your children? "Okay, Junior - it's time you knew about sex. It's where children come from, but it's evil. Don't do it. And don't ask how you got here, either. Mommy and Daddy are evil, and so are every other parent in the world, but don't you be evil."

And they wonder why their kids are so fucked in the head (and elsewhere) when it comes to sex...



That's just crap. My parents were open and honest with me about sex and how to prevent pregnancy. My schools taught sex ed. I advocate talking about sex as soon as the child begins to notice the different sexes. Just because I'm against abortion does not mean I'm against condoms. I support adoption and single mothers/fathers. I volunteer for programs that assist young and/or single parents. I was a foster system approved baby sitter. Just because I don't want babies killed doesn't mean I'm against sex.





fyi. I'm a lifer all around. I'm against the death penalty too. I'm very vocal on human rights and torture. I'd prefer to never go to war and sacrifice young soldiers. I'm not a militant who pushes her agenda on her neighbors. If it comes up I simply offer my opinion. I've never turned my back on someone that chose abortion. I use charity to offer my support to those that choose life. It's a hard road to go down, I'm not naive, I just feel it's the best one.

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Friday, December 5, 2008 8:03 AM

RUE


"Ahhh...the perfect gift for your favorite whore this Christmas..."

Glad to see you got that word "gift" in there. I was wondering ... the perfect for your favorite whore ... perfect what ? The perfect martini ? The perfect card ? The perfect storm ?

That missing word was bothering me.

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Friday, December 5, 2008 10:06 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important



"I'm not a militant who pushes her agenda on her neighbors. If it comes up I simply offer my opinion. I've never turned my back on someone that chose abortion. I use charity to offer my support to those that choose life. It's a hard road to go down, I'm not naive, I just feel it's the best one."

Hello,

I have a great deal of respect for those who promote their ideas unobtrusively, without trying to force them on others. Carry on.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, December 5, 2008 10:09 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Now, Story, dont speak about your daughter like that....



Sorry, I have no children. I was reffering to your mother.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, December 5, 2008 10:19 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Now, Story, dont speak about your daughter like that....



Sorry, I have no children.




Why doesn't that surprise me? Got your wife/girlfriend/mom/sister/aunt one of these gift certificates huh? I can see why they wouldn't want to bring your demon seed into this world.....


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Friday, December 5, 2008 10:23 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Now, Story, dont speak about your daughter like that....



Sorry, I have no children.




Why doesn't that surprise me? Got your wife/girlfriend/mom/sister/aunt one of these gift certificates huh? I can see why they wouldn't want to bring your demon seed into this world.....




I'll just stop and concede it - you have won the contest for who can be most vile.

Congratulations.


I don't know why I bother. Not really too concerned about the opinions of a bigot praying for a civil war. But you and PirateNews are made for each other.


"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, December 5, 2008 10:29 AM

WHOZIT


Instead of an expensive gift card, just send her a wire coat hanger. You get them free from the dry cleaners, put a pretty bow on it.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

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Friday, December 5, 2008 10:32 AM

DEADLOCKVICTIM



I am always amazed at the anti-abortion crowd - when the most dominant voices are from men.... men should have no say what so ever in the reproductive rights of women....

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Friday, December 5, 2008 10:32 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Now, Story, dont speak about your daughter like that....



Sorry, I have no children.




Why doesn't that surprise me? Got your wife/girlfriend/mom/sister/aunt one of these gift certificates huh? I can see why they wouldn't want to bring your demon seed into this world.....




I'll just stop and concede it.

Congratulations.




Appreciate you giving in with some dignity (or not, but who gives a fuck?).

Sometimes, I just HAVE to knock a little sense into the self-righteous, wanna-be, pretender know-it-alls, around here.

Keeps them humble, and gives them a little humility.

Anyways...

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Friday, December 5, 2008 10:36 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Instead of an expensive gift card, just send her a wire coat hanger. You get them free from the dry cleaners, put a pretty bow on it.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin



Is that supposed to be amusing? Because it is crass and disgusting.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

Trolls Against McCain




“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

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Friday, December 5, 2008 10:39 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

Appreciate you giving in with some dignity (or not, but who gives a fuck?).

Sometimes, I just HAVE to knock a little sense into the self-righteous, wanna-be, pretender know-it-alls, around here.

Keeps them humble, and gives them a little humility.

Anyways...




Of course, you don't want someone stealing your title of king self-righteous, wanna-be, pretender know-it-all.

When your life is as pathetic as yours, you need to cling to whatever you can.


On a seperate note, bravo for perfectly exemplifying the rightie wingnut skill for selectively cherry picking quotes, when useing the entirety would reveal the assinine nature of your claims. Keep it up, and you'll unseat Rappy as the the chief wingnut douchebag in no time.


"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, December 5, 2008 10:40 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


And here I was offering a truce...


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Friday, December 5, 2008 10:49 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Instead of an expensive gift card, just send her a wire coat hanger. You get them free from the dry cleaners, put a pretty bow on it.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin



Is that supposed to be amusing? Because it is crass and disgusting.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

Trolls Against McCain




“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

Many people think abortions are disgusting, thought I'm sure you do'nt respect there opinion. And YES it was suppose to be amusing! I like dark humor.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

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Friday, December 5, 2008 11:05 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Rape removes a woman's control over her body for minutes or hours.

Nine months of violation is clearly a greater harm.


It might be a longer harm...but the question of "greater" requires an examination of the nature of the harm.

By your example having your arm chopped off is less of a harm then slowly pulling off a bandaid.

H

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Friday, December 5, 2008 11:09 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
I'll just stop and concede it - you have won the contest for who can be most vile.


(Takes up the gauntlet)

The perfect gift for the man who has everything (wife, family, teenage mistress).

A dead baby today, a lifetime free of child support...

All the stemcells you can eat.

H

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Friday, December 5, 2008 11:11 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Instead of an expensive gift card, just send her a wire coat hanger. You get them free from the dry cleaners, put a pretty bow on it.


NO WIRE HANGERS, EVER!

H

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Friday, December 5, 2008 11:15 AM

WULFENSTAR

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What about...

The perfect gift for the 12 y/old ghetto hood-rat?

(And before you go all crazy...I knew 3 different girls growing up who either,

A. Had a baby at 12..

or

B. Had an abortion at that age.)

I also knew girls who treated abortions as another form of birth-contol.

One girl had 7 by the time she was 19...and she bragged about it. Its cus none of the "baby-daddi" were rich enough...

*sigh

Ahh, childhood...how I missed you growing up.


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Friday, December 5, 2008 11:34 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

Hero,

Obviously not. Chopping off my arm would deprive me of that arm forever. The violation would be indefinite.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, December 5, 2008 11:49 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


You know, I just thought I'd mention, there are services other than abortions available from Planned Parenthood. The vast range of birth control they offer is where the 'Planned' comes from. They offer pills, patches, shots, IUDs, diaphragms, and condoms. They also give exams and STD tests. I get my pills from them because it's the cheapest option available to me, and funny enough I haven't needed anything else from them.
I understand that in many people's mind 'Planned Parenthood' is synonymous with 'abortion' but I thought I should point out that, well, it isn't. I can't really see myself being given a gift card, but if I were, I'd use it to pay for my pills. And maybe, just maybe, most of their patrons would say the same.
I feel a bit too weary to get involved in the rest of this debate, except to say I have growing admiration for AnthonyT

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Friday, December 5, 2008 9:02 PM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Rape removes a woman's control over her body for minutes or hours.

Nine months of violation is clearly a greater harm.


It might be a longer harm...but the question of "greater" requires an examination of the nature of the harm.

By your example having your arm chopped off is less of a harm then slowly pulling off a bandaid.




Which harm is bigger would ultimately depend on the opinion of the particular victim having to suffer through both. Women in the past have killed themselves to avoid both of these things, which should be enough of an indication that they are pretty damn bad.

I'm perfectly willing to say that I don't care which is the "greater" harm, but say that both are entirely unacceptable things to have to endure, so no one must ever be forced to.

As for your analogy, how about chopping your arm of vs. having it slowly killed over a period of months and then chopped off?
I wouldn't even be able to say which is worse in this case, but at least the violation implied is a lot more similar than mutilation vs bandaid. That's just an arrogant and thoughtless comparison.

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Friday, December 5, 2008 10:49 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Phoenixrose ?

One thing I would not mind my tax dime funding, is free condoms for anyone above age of consent, if the religious whiners have an issue with that, no one is forcing them to take home a box so they can just whinge to themselves for all I care.

Hell, in my opinion we oughta make the trojan man a national hero and build statues in his honor - considering how many lives said product has saved, by preventing HIV transmission, STDs and unwanted pregnancies likely to be terminated, he *IS* a national hero, and worthy of that respect.

All together now -

TROJANNNNN MANNNNN!!!
*hums the theme song*

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:45 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL


I remember giving HIV talks back in high school and kids being shocked that we would give them condoms and show them how to use them. My first college gave out free condoms to whomever needed them, no questions.

Yes, PP does offer a lot of other services. They are one of the best options for basic OBGYN care. Some PPs even have pediatric care for newborns and toddlers.

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Saturday, December 6, 2008 2:17 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Thats all well and good. For those services Ive got nothing against PP...

However, they also toss out abortions like they do condomns.

Now, its not that I am against abortions, or those who provide them. I am against, as in my earlier post, using abortions as birth control.

When you start hitting your 3rd abortion, maybe its time to reconsider what you are doing with you life...

PP has their own agenda concerning birth control, make no mistake. However, for the most part, its one I agree with.

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Saturday, December 6, 2008 6:43 AM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Thats all well and good. For those services Ive got nothing against PP...

However, they also toss out abortions like they do condomns.

Now, its not that I am against abortions, or those who provide them. I am against, as in my earlier post, using abortions as birth control.

When you start hitting your 3rd abortion, maybe its time to reconsider what you are doing with you life...



I don't think anybody would be pleased with such a thing.

But what do you suppose should be done about people who use the option of abortion thoughtlessly? You can hardly take away their right to have one and mandated counseling or some such would hardly work without such an incentive. In the end, they are their own worst enemy, as abortions aren't exactly a walk in the park for a woman's body, either. It's the sad price of freedom that some people are free to make stupid choices. Worth it to me.

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Saturday, December 6, 2008 7:11 AM

RUE


"When you start hitting your 3rd abortion, maybe its time to reconsider what you are doing with you life..."

True story - at least, told to me by the person who was there and claims it was true - back from the days of working in a county hospital ...


Woman comes in for an abortion, gets one, gets birth control counseling and a supply of pills ... comes in some time later for another abortion. --- Well, birth control isn't perfect, so she gets another abortion, gets birth control counseling again, with reminders that you need to use it every day, and a supply of pills ... And a while later comes in for her third abortion. At this point the clinic people figure either she is hitting the worst streak with her birth control or something is wrong. So they take her to a private room, go through all the questions and instructions again - you're not missing any days with these pills, are you ? And maybe doubling-up the next day and figuring you're good ? Nope - the woman says she is faithfully, every day using birth control. At the end the nurse thinks to ask - do you have ANY questions at all ? At which point, the woman rather abashedly asks - how do you get them to stay UP there ?

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