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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:03 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I sense the good within you.


If you only knew the power of the Hateside *clenching fist*


The Emperor-driven Chrisisall

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:11 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
weaponised nuclear energy is "the fire of the gods" and thus, a blasphemous usurpation mankind should not have, and cannot be trusted with - harnessing our stolen fire for the benefit of all can be forgiven or atoned for, but smiting each other with the gods fire ?

That's like bogarting one of Zeus's lightning bolts and dropping it on your boss, it's a blasphemy, a usurpation and an insult to the divinities all at once, you see.


Chariot Of The Gods much, Frem?

Sorry, someone hadda run with that one...no, I get what you're sayin'.


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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:18 AM

WULFENSTAR

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"It ain't about being cold hearted neither, it's that when the reaper, your angel, your valkyrie or what have you - shows up to collect you, I am *not permitted* to interfere with that unless I find myself in a moral position where I must hold your life above my own."

I can see it in the sense of not prolonging someones life (Terry Schivo?)...

But if someone is hurt, Im gonna help them.

I won't ask for your religion ect ect, as its not my business..

But I will say this, if you (Frem) saw someone get hit by a car.... and you could render aid that would keep them alive until the paramedics arrived...Im convinced, just from your posts, that you WOULD help them.



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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:25 AM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Rappy, it's dead bang simple.

I Do Not Agree.

So either "everybody agrees" is a lie, or you do not consider me a person.

Which is it ?

-F

PS. I see we crossposted there Anthony, lil bit of Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness goin on there, eh ?

I like to keep it simple.



To what do you not agree ? That R v W is bad law ? As I tried to explain, I say so not because of what it allegedly legalizes, but simple based on its lack of merit . Whether you agree w/ a " woman's right to choose " or not , isn't the issue here. When I say 'everyone agrees', it's simply a commentary that , those both for and against R v W will tell you that it's a poorly arrived at decision. Your opinion doesn't change that fact, sorry.



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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:48 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


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Originally posted by SignyM:
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I also have never accused anyone of being "un-American", "terrorist", "terrorist-lovers" or the like for disagreeing with the administration, so that is outright lie on your part.
Oh, no Finn. You're not anywhere near as noble and dispassionate as you think you are, 'cause I've been on the receiving end of your hate. You called me all kinds of names, including un-American.

And all because I dare to ask you questions about your viewpoints, which you can't even answer.

Was that before or after you went into great detail to malign my character with manipulative mean-spirited commentary on how I was born with mental disability and grew up to be a murdering bastard? Although, the truth is that even in that case, your accusations are unlikely.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:55 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
To what do you not agree ? That R v W is bad law ? As I tried to explain, I say so not because of what it allegedly legalizes, but simple based on its lack of merit . Whether you agree w/ a " woman's right to choose " or not , isn't the issue here. When I say 'everyone agrees', it's simply a commentary that , those both for and against R v W will tell you that it's a poorly arrived at decision. Your opinion doesn't change that fact, sorry.

Certainly the young girl who originally was influenced into bringing the case, later regretted that the whole thing was a big mistake. And certainly it lacks any kind of constitutional justification, which is something any constitutional attorney will tell you. On that merit alone it should be overturned, since it clearly is a state issue, not a federal issue.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:02 AM

AURAPTOR

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And certainly it lacks any kind of constitutional justification, which is something any constitutional attorney will tell you.


Exactly. That's the main point I was trying to make. But some are seeing only what they want, and when I'm saying R. v W. is " bad law " , they seem to think I'm commenting only on its result. I thought my Wiki post above made the whole thing clear. Perhaps some here didn't bother to read it ?






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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:10 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
And certainly it lacks any kind of constitutional justification, which is something any constitutional attorney will tell you.

Ahhh Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it's just a goddamned piece of paper!



The lampooning Chrisisall

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:21 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
And certainly it lacks any kind of constitutional justification, which is something any constitutional attorney will tell you.

Ahhh Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it's just a goddamned piece of paper!

Blasphemy!!! The Constitution is not a goddamned piece of paper!!

It’s a goddamned piece of parchment.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:29 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Blasphemy!!! The Constitution is not a goddamned piece of paper!!

It’s a goddamned piece of parchment.


I sit corrected.


The public school system-educated Chrisisall

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:40 AM

RUE

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Finn mac Cumhal:
If you are ever going to regain your lost credibility in this board, it won't be with manipulation.

HKCavalier:
Did I miss the memo? When did Signy lose credibility?


HKC
I think Finn gets SignyM and me mixed up. He says SignyM says things which I said. Though, he also says SignyM says things which no one has said, so I don't know where that comes from.


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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:14 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Was that before or after you went into great detail to malign my character with manipulative mean-spirited commentary on how I was born with mental disability and grew up to be a murdering bastard? Although, the truth is that even in that case, your accusations are unlikely.
Can you find a quote where I said anything remotely like that? I doubt it very much. What I mainly find troubling about you is that you DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.


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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:30 AM

RUE

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Riverlove

"The Left has been going totally apeshit over Bush ever since his name was announced as a Republican candidate back in 1999."

Not quite true on my part. I waited till I saw him campaigning before I figured out he was a sociopath (the dumb kind) and figurehead. But after he was selected by the Supreme Court (in an illegal ruling, BTW) I waited to see if he would be a 'uniter'. That lasted till his administration lied about the WH being trashed and all the 'W's' being removed from the keyboards. At that point I figured it was the same old hate-filled GOP crap they been doing to Clinton for 8 years, and they just couldn't help themselves. It didn't take long for them to reveal themselves.



"... little to love about Obama's picks for his Administration. Who knew that Obama's famous "HOPE", and "CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN" was just campaign jargon ..."

I figured that out quite a while ago. HOW LONG have I been posting that Obama is more conservative than most people realize ? HOW LONG have I been posting that I wasn't pro-Obama, just anti-McCain ? HOW LONG have I been posting that the real work doesn't being until AFTER the election ? Have you not been reading anything, just skating along posting responses to your own assumptions ?


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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:45 AM

SIGNYM

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Mmmm, yeah, pretty much here too. Obama's best point is that he is not McCain. He's too moderate IMHO.

What I find damn peculiar is that the peeps who are the most afraid that Obama will be some kind of radical are the first to denounce Obama for not being radical enough! How's THAT for screwed-up thinking?

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:59 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Being truly "moderate" is the ONLY way for a President to be. IMHO.

Going too far left or too far right has fucked up this country enough.

)So have the people whose views are with far left or far right.)

Just to clarify, being on the fringe is not a good place to be, people.


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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:28 AM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
HOW LONG have I been posting that Obama is more conservative than most people realize ? HOW LONG have I been posting that I wasn't pro-Obama, just anti-McCain ? HOW LONG have I been posting that the real work doesn't being until AFTER the election ? Have you not been reading anything, just skating along posting responses to your own assumptions ?


Your posts are either too complex, too self-serving, or too confrontational for my lethargic brainwaves to assimilate. I'm flattered that I'm on your radar. I'm still beholding to Chrisisall's post-election plea for civility and no Obama-trashing to delve into the minutia. Time to skate!


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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:36 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


:
Quote:

Your posts are either too complex
Poor reading comprehension?
Quote:

or too confrontational
THIS from the person who said:
Quote:

The Left has been going totally apeshit over Bush... No amount of criticism of Obama ... could ever even register on the deranged-hate syndrome scale that Liberals created and perfected with Bush
Ah yes, time to skate indeed!


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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:42 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Being truly "moderate" is the ONLY way for a President to be. IMHO.

If I may interject... The same peeps who applauded Bush's rash invasion of Iraq now seem to want "moderation".

In any case, you know what they say: Moderation in everything, including moderation. A medical analogy: One needs to know when to apply "watchful waiting", slow and steady treatment, emergency medicine, or field surgery.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:51 AM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
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Quote:

Your posts are either too complex
Poor reading comprehension?
Quote:

or too confrontational
THIS from the person who said:
Quote:

The Left has been going totally apeshit over Bush... No amount of criticism of Obama ... could ever even register on the deranged-hate syndrome scale that Liberals created and perfected with Bush
Ah yes, time to skate indeed!


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I stand by that assertive fact. You can hem and haw all day, but it doesn't change that universal truth one iota. I have been civil to all who post here since the election. I think that must bother you the most. Why else you busting my balls? Are you that lonely and attention starved? Ooops, gotta skate again.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:51 AM

RUE

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"You’re already accusing people who don’t agree with Obama of being “un-American,” aren’t you?"

Since Obama isn't president YET (a point you may have missed) it's hard to agree OR disagree with anything he's done or not done. But people aren't posting that they disagree. They are posting that they want Obama to FAIL - simply so they can gloat. No matter what it means for the country, they WANT things to be worse just to have that chance to gloat.

See the difference ?

Well, probably not, but at least I tried.


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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:57 AM

RUE

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"I'm flattered that I'm on your radar."

Uhhmm ... you're not in any special way (until you post to me). You may have noticed (or maybe not) I was just going down the thread and responding as I saw fit to a number of people.

"I have been civil to all who post here since the election."
And here's a couple of examples of Riverlove's civility ...
"... deranged-hate syndrome scale that Liberals created and perfected ..."
"Are you that lonely and attention starved?"

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:57 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

I have been civil to all who post here since the election. I think that must bother you the most. Why else you busting my balls? Are you that lonely and attention starved?
Riverlove: If I said that you suffered from deranged-hate syndrome would you consider that a civil comment?

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:09 AM

FREMDFIRMA


You dodged the question, as usual.

I do not agree that is it a bad ruling.

I am a person.

So how does that reconcile with your comment "Everyone Agrees" ?

Either you lied, intentionally and purposefully.
Or, you are not considering me a person.

I am not willing to discuss the merits or lack thereof, of said ruling, until I get a straight answer to that question, which you seem very reluctant to provide.

-F

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:12 AM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

I have been civil to all who post here since the election. I think that must bother you the most. Why else you busting my balls? Are you that lonely and attention starved?
Riverlove: If I said that you suffered from deranged-hate syndrome would you consider that a civil comment?

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The actual words of my original post said " since 1999". I was obviously referring to the "Left" in general, not the Leftists here. This board didn't exist in 1999; or do you need a cite for that? Yer a tad too sensitive for someone who's so quick to be mean to Browncoat posters.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:14 AM

RUE

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Finn:
"a human fetus is by definition human"

So is my liver, my nose, my finger (here, see ?). It doesn't make it a human.

MalBadInLatin:
"Oppressive dictatorships exist in greater numbers within countries that the USA either supports or has military bases in, than without."
Finn:
"Yes. Just like police are often stationed in parts of a neighborhood with the most crime. That doesn’t mean the police support crime."

Seriously, that's a load of crap. Are US troops in those countries to GET RID of those dictators ? No.


Finn:
"Americans have more personal freedom then exists in much of Western Europe."

And now you're visiting Rap land. Well, we all go there from time to time. Just don't move there.


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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:15 AM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"I'm flattered that I'm on your radar."

Uhhmm ... you're not in any special way (until you post to me). You may have noticed (or maybe not) I was just going down the thread and responding as I saw fit to a number of people.

"I have been civil to all who post here since the election."
And here's a couple of examples of Riverlove's civility ...
"... deranged-hate syndrome scale that Liberals created and perfected ..."
"Are you that lonely and attention starved?"

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I'm going to blush. You're making me a superstar! Thanks for all your wonderful attentiveness.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:35 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

The actual words of my original post said " since 1999". I was obviously referring to the "Left" in general, not the Leftists here. This board didn't exist in 1999; or do you need a cite for that? Yer a tad too sensitive for someone who's so quick to be mean to Browncoat posters.
If I said: Since November 4th, would that change my post? I guess we have different standards for "civil", so we may as well agree to disagree.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:45 AM

RUE

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"When I say 'everyone agrees', it's simply ..." another 'fact' I made up out of thin air !

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:48 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

a human fetus is by definition human
Yanno, Finn and I went rounds on that one. What is "human"? Is it in the genes? Is it in the development? He wound analogizing a fertilized egg to a train with a destination. I tried to explain that the fertilized egg is like a train that is still being built, with the tracks still being laid. No destination, no "goal", no "potential", no "ideal little baby in the making", just... what is.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:56 AM

RUE

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Finn

"Was that before or after you went into great detail to malign my character with manipulative mean-spirited commentary on how I was born with mental disability and grew up to be a murdering bastard?"

I find you pedantic in the extreme, intent on manipulating individual words to meet your needs (rather than using standard definitions) and yet, somehow unable to see the whole argument. I find that to be a sign of certain inabilities - that was I who made that argument, not SignyM.

I don't believe anyone here has called you a murdering bastard --- though you do seem to go out of your way to support, defend and rationalize the actions of those who are.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:58 AM

RUE

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"You're making me a superstar!"

I had no idea I had so much power. But if I could have power, I'd rather make you into a real little boy.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:12 AM

RUE

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Frem

As an ex- licensed EMT we were trained to triage. In other words, don't waste valuable supplies, time and effort on the ones who weren't going to make it. But making that judgment accurately is extremely difficult. There are those who seem fine and then die, and those who seem ready to die but live in defiance of all expectations.

BTW, it seems weird that you would fault a doctor who applied your philosophy to you. He seemed pretty certain you were going to croak. It's your own philosophy, in practice.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:36 AM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:

I had no idea I had so much power. But if I could have power, I'd rather make you into a real little boy.


Don't sell yourself short. You have the power to do anything you set your mind to. After you turned me into a real little boy, what would you do then? Hug me, kiss me? Okay, but please no grandmotherly wet ones.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:58 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"When I say 'everyone agrees', it's simply ..." another 'fact' I made up out of thin air !

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No, dumbass, everyone as in scholars from both sides of the argument.



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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:09 PM

SWISH


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
No, dumbass, everyone as in scholars from both sides of the argument.

The usual question:

Cites please?

The usual reply:








cricket





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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:11 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by swish:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
No, dumbass, everyone as in scholars from both sides of the argument.

The usual question:

Cites please?

The usual reply:




Already posted above, brainless.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade#Critiques



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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:13 PM

SWISH


And, not to belabor a point, but because AUraptor keeps providing proof:


"in a nutshell, why conservatives don't win elections anymore.... There are a certain segment of conservatives who literally cannot believe that anybody would see the world differently than the way they do."

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:15 PM

AURAPTOR

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You're right. I can't comprehend a world where others don't see the world as it really is. Kinda what makes me a non believer in any/ all religions.

Go figure.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:15 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
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Was that before or after you went into great detail to malign my character with manipulative mean-spirited commentary on how I was born with mental disability and grew up to be a murdering bastard? Although, the truth is that even in that case, your accusations are unlikely.
Can you find a quote where I said anything remotely like that? I doubt it very much. What I mainly find troubling about you is that you DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

Probably, but what the hell makes you think that you are immune to supporting your own claims? As you accuse me of being stupid : “you DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.”



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:19 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
I think Finn gets SignyM and me mixed up. He says SignyM says things which I said. Though,

Very possible. The two of you tag team and parrot each other so frequently that it’s often difficult to see either of you as distinct from the other. But no, I mean Signym not you. Although the same could probably be said of you.




Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:20 PM

SWISH


And that short paragraph represents the opinions of EVERYONE? How about the MAJORITY of supreme court justices who ruled for Roe v Wade? Were they not people? Were they not experts?

Yeah, I have a brain. I can recognize people. You recognize nothing but your own pathetically small worldview. I do truly pity you.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:23 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Finn:
"a human fetus is by definition human"

So is my liver, my nose, my finger (here, see ?). It doesn't make it a human.

I don’t remember saying that it was a human. And as it turns out, I didn’t. That does not however draw an equivalence between a human fetus and a human liver or nose or finger, until such time as you can demonstrate that a human liver, nose or finger evolved into a human.
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Finn:
"Americans have more personal freedom then exists in much of Western Europe."

And now you're visiting Rap land. Well, we all go there from time to time. Just don't move there.

Well then Rap is right.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:26 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Finn

"Was that before or after you went into great detail to malign my character with manipulative mean-spirited commentary on how I was born with mental disability and grew up to be a murdering bastard?"

I find you pedantic in the extreme, intent on manipulating individual words to meet your needs (rather than using standard definitions) and yet, somehow unable to see the whole argument. I find that to be a sign of certain inabilities - that was I who made that argument, not SignyM.

So you’ve claim. What with insidious words like “it seems” and “it appears” which I deceitfully employ to be describe my views.




Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:30 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"until such time as you can demonstrate that a human liver, nose or finger evolved into a human"

So you are saying it's not a human YET ? Then we agree --- some day it MAY become a human but that day it not arrived. And until it does, and while it's not a human, it's not covered by the Consitution.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:33 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"until such time as you can demonstrate that a human liver, nose or finger evolved into a human"

So you are saying it's not a human YET ? Then we agree --- some day it MAY become a human but that day it not arrived. And until it does, and while it's not a human, it's not covered by the Consitution.

The Constitution doesn’t say anything about children , and they aren’t fully grown either.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:37 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Like your use of 'it seems' or it appears' ? No like, your inability to use the phrase 'human life' appropriately, as in abortion is wrong because it takes a human life, but bombing civilian areas is OK because those things there are just collateral damage.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:38 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by swish:
And that short paragraph represents the opinions of EVERYONE? How about the MAJORITY of supreme court justices who ruled for Roe v Wade? Were they not people? Were they not experts?

Yeah, I have a brain. I can recognize people. You recognize nothing but your own pathetically small worldview. I do truly pity you.



Wow, you truly are an idiot.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:39 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Like your use of 'it seems' or it appears' ? No like, your inability to use the phrase 'human life' appropriately, as in abortion is wrong because it takes a human life, but bombing civilian areas is OK because those things there are just collateral damage.

So in what context did I misuse the phrase “human life.” You’re current example doesn’t apply to me, since it’s not my opinion. Perhaps it’s yours.

You know, if you and signym spent a little more time actually reading my posts and trying to understand my point of view instead of writing me off as an murderous idiot, you might learn something, or at least be able to effectively argue.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:45 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Can you find a quote where I said anything remotely like that? - Signy

Probably, but what the hell makes you think that you are immune to supporting your own claims?- Finn

Why don't you start by supporting yours? Find me a quote where I said you were a murderous bastard (or whatever it is that you claim that I said)
Quote:

What I mainly find troubling about you is that you DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. - Signy

As you accuse me of being stupid : “you DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.”- Finn

I always suport my claims. You OTOH... other than simply repeating your sincerely and deeply held (but not fully thought-out) beliefs, you have generally not been able to support them either logically or factually. And when I drill down on that, you hate me.



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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:50 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Why don't you start by supporting yours? Find me a quote where I said you were a murderous bastard (or whatever it is that you claim that I said)

Ah, typical Signymoid manipulation. Make an unsupported claim, but then insist that all responses to said claim must be supported.
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
I always suport my claims.

Prove it.




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