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Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:39 AM

WHOZIT


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94DQU5O0&show_article=1 In there big fat rush to make Sarah look bad, they went and made fools of themseleves, GOOD! Now we know how the press works, leap before you look.

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Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:01 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Umm, you DO know that this bolus was originally floated by a McCain staffer, and first floated on that paragon of utter stupidity, Fox "news" right ?

Shame on MSNBC - and everyone else, for cribbing it without fact checking it, but humiliation galore for Fox for throwing it like a touchdown pass in the first place.

Being that I consider it MY job to mock and embarrass folks like you, I really wish you'd quit doin most of the work for me.

-F

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Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:23 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Umm, you DO know that this bolus was originally floated by a McCain staffer, and first floated on that paragon of utter stupidity, Fox "news" right ?

Shame on MSNBC - and everyone else, for cribbing it without fact checking it, but humiliation galore for Fox for throwing it like a touchdown pass in the first place.

Being that I consider it MY job to mock and embarrass folks like you, I really wish you'd quit doin most of the work for me.

-F

Mock me all you like (would'nt be the 1st time) but MSNBC made a fool of it self because of there insane hatered for Palin. Like Dan Rather and "Filegate", they jumped at it because they WANTED it to be true.

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Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:30 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"MSNBC made a fool of it self because of there (sic) insane hatered for Palin"

And F*CKS made a fool of itself because of ... why, exactly ?

***************************************************************

Silence is consent.

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Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:36 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

And F*CKS made a fool of itself because of ... why, exactly ?



Because it's their mission statement?


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Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:43 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"MSNBC made a fool of it self because of there (sic) insane hatered for Palin"

And F*CKS made a fool of itself because of ... why, exactly ?

***************************************************************

Silence is consent.

And yet FOX News beats MSNBC and CNN in the ratings night after night, after night, after night, after night, after night, etc. My God, where did FOX go rite!?

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Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:18 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


So apparently you don't have a problem with someone broadcasting pure horseshit as long as their ratings are high?


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Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:24 PM

SERGEANTX


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
...And yet FOX News beats MSNBC and CNN in the ratings night after night, after night, after night, after night, after night, etc. My God, where did FOX go rite!



Hmmm and "Dancing With the Stars" gets much better ratings than Firefly did. What sort of point are you making here?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Friday, November 14, 2008 1:30 AM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"MSNBC made a fool of it self because of there (sic) insane hatered for Palin"

And F*CKS made a fool of itself because of ... why, exactly ?

***************************************************************

Silence is consent.

And yet FOX News beats MSNBC and CNN in the ratings night after night, after night, after night, after night, after night, etc. My God, where did FOX go rite!?



I've watched O'Reilly for many years. I e-mailed him for the first time ever the day after the Carl Cameron "hit piece" on Palin last week, and told him that the segment disgusted me. The next day O'Reilly defended it against an onslaught of mail from the folks. I just couldn't understand the purpose of the "story", other than to forever taint a once-respected journalist like Cameron. It was his grinning and salivating eagerness to toss out salacious and scathing reports from "un-named" sources that upset me the most, not even necessarily the content, but the rationale behind putting it out as some sort of important revelation. It is absolutely true that Fox's Carl Cameron was the catalyst behind msnbc and all the others picking up and promulgating that hoax. I haven't watched O'Reilly much since, so I don't know if he ever apologized or retracted. I know MSNBC did.

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Friday, November 14, 2008 5:57 AM

RIGHTEOUS9



Whozit, the dumbest thing about your post is that it says in the first two sentences that it was a Fox News Story, as other people have pointed out, but wouldn't have needed to if you ever read your own posts.

You show just how credible you are when you attack a specific news outlet for doing what your favored one did according to the very article you posted.

It's a clear sign that you need help when you can sit there scolding your left hand to stop touching yourself, while your right hand goes to town.

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Friday, November 14, 2008 7:22 AM

MALBADINLATIN


Fox News admitted that when the story broke...the McCain staffer who leaked the story months before asked that nothing be reported before the election.

How different would the late 70's be if Woodward and Bernstein hushed up Watergate until 77?

If this would have been negative Biden material Fox would have tattoo'd the story to Martha McCallum's ass and ran it 24/7 no matter who asked what.

If Fox News reports negativly on Republicans...it'e either a set up for a "democrats are even worse" story, or it's part of a larger plan to make Palin look persecuted. Republicans respond with furious anger when the Liberal press messes with the princess of heavan and Alaska. Positive air time on Fox for Palin will be a reality for the next four years.

Frem once directed me to a great bunch of history...it dispelled my previous notion that the press has ever been fair and balanced. Thus the term "mudraker"

Journalism is a business, they provide us with stimulating material of varying repute and the advertising that takes it's place in the areas of our subconscious that dictate our buying practices. Really very simple and nothing new.


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Friday, November 14, 2008 11:17 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Muckraker, actually...

And that wasn't the HALF of the crap I could tell ya, if I felt like boring you to death, that is.

I generally offer enough to encourage folks to follow up on their own, instead of drowning them in it.

But, you might find this tidbit interesting.
http://www.prwatch.org/fakenews/release

I fail to see how anyone can take them seriously anymore, I mean, if someone lied to me every time they spoke, imma be skeptical of anything they say - and yet, in spite of YEARS of downright proven lies, people still give these berks any credence at all ?

Thankfully the internet has broadened the average persons ability to investigate, compare, and weigh the material critically, allowing more folks to sift truth from propaganda, and this slow realisation is killing their market share, something they're pissed about, and it's the primary reason the big media companies wanna lock up and strangle the net.

To which, the only sane and proper response is...
"over my rotting corpse, ya bastards!"

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, November 14, 2008 11:27 AM

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
And yet FOX News beats MSNBC and CNN in the ratings night after night, after night, after night, after night, after night.



hear, hear.

Do not fear me. Our's is a peaceful race and we must live in harmony.

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Friday, November 14, 2008 11:44 AM

MALBADINLATIN


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Muckraker, actually...

And that wasn't the HALF of the crap I could tell ya, if I felt like boring you to death, that is.

I generally offer enough to encourage folks to follow up on their own, instead of drowning them in it.

You wrote something that had me checking out the AP History but I wound up finding the origin of mudraker which kind of pre dates everything and got me looking into the early days of the press.

Anyway...you didn't drown me in anything, you just told me there may have been another truth and go check it out...only not in nice words. I think you actually said blank blank mother! blank blank God! blank blank...Which didn't bother me much.


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Friday, November 14, 2008 11:47 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
...And yet FOX News beats MSNBC and CNN in the ratings night after night, after night, after night, after night, after night, etc. My God, where did FOX go rite!



Hmmm and "Dancing With the Stars" gets much better ratings than Firefly did. What sort of point are you making here?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

FOX canceled FIREFLY after 13 episodes, (the bastards) FOX News and MSNBC have both been on 10 years, CNN over 25 years. People have had YEARS to pick who'd they trust more. FOX is'nt right-wing propiganda, it's just that balanced reporting looks ring-wing to you. The fact that MSNBC & CNN have been on for years and are getting there asses kicked by FOX says alot.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

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Friday, November 14, 2008 11:54 AM

MALBADINLATIN


Quote:

Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
And yet FOX News beats MSNBC and CNN in the ratings night after night, after night, after night, after night, after night.

You gotta check the ratings because you couldn't have been lied to more. Here is the link to check night after night after night...like last night where Fox didn't get better ratings.

The Scoreboard: Thursday, Nov. 13
25-54 demographic: (L +SD)

Total day: FNC: 302 | CNN: 315 | MSNBC: 245 | HLN: 137

Prime: FNC: 553 | CNN: 696 | MSNBC: 577 | HLN: 338

Yesterday...CNN beat Fox, Fox beat MSNBC from morning till prime time, which is 6:00 pm on. In Prime Time only CNN beat MSNBC, MSNBC beat Fox. In case your having trouble interpreting this data. This is the demo advertisers use. Here is the link.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

Hope this helps you, I look at this as much as I was looking at Realclearpolitics.


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Friday, November 14, 2008 12:00 PM

MALBADINLATIN


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit: And yet FOX News beats MSNBC and CNN in the ratings night after night, after night, after night, after night, after night, etc. My God, where did FOX go rite!?
You need this too for accuracy's sake

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

It shows the previous days Nielson ratings for Fox, MSNBC, and CNN.


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Friday, November 14, 2008 12:06 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by MalBadInLatin:
Quote:

Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
And yet FOX News beats MSNBC and CNN in the ratings night after night, after night, after night, after night, after night.

You gotta check the ratings because you couldn't have been lied to more. Here is the link to check night after night after night...like last night where Fox didn't get better ratings.

The Scoreboard: Thursday, Nov. 13
25-54 demographic: (L +SD)

Total day: FNC: 302 | CNN: 315 | MSNBC: 245 | HLN: 137

Prime: FNC: 553 | CNN: 696 | MSNBC: 577 | HLN: 338

Yesterday...CNN beat Fox, Fox beat MSNBC from morning till prime time, which is 6:00 pm on. In Prime Time only CNN beat MSNBC, MSNBC beat Fox. In case your having trouble interpreting this data. This is the demo advertisers use. Here is the link.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

Hope this helps you, I look at this as much as I was looking at Realclearpolitics.


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So FOX beats MSNBC and CNN in primetime, when most people are watching TV, the time advertisers love, that's why they call it PRIMETIME!

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

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Friday, November 14, 2008 12:07 PM

SERGEANTX


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
FOX canceled FIREFLY after 13 episodes, (the bastards) FOX News and MSNBC have both been on 10 years, CNN over 25 years. People have had YEARS to pick who'd they trust more. FOX is'nt right-wing propiganda, it's just that balanced reporting looks ring-wing to you. The fact that MSNBC & CNN have been on for years and are getting there asses kicked by FOX says a lot.



You're missing my point. People, especially the ones deciding what to watch on television, are morons. The same people who chose "Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire" over "Firefly" are choosing to trust Fox news. Not saying that proves anything in particular about Fox News, but it certainly doesn't prove they're trustworthy.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Friday, November 14, 2008 12:31 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"MSNBC made a fool of it self because of there (sic) insane hatered for Palin"

And F*CKS made a fool of itself because of ... why, exactly ?

***************************************************************

Silence is consent.

And yet FOX News beats MSNBC and CNN in the ratings night after night, after night, after night, after night, after night, etc. My God, where did FOX go rite!?



You don't even know how to make a coherent point, do you?

Here, let me break it down, nice and simple for you:

You go on about MSNBC going with a bogus story.

It's pointed out to you that siad story originated with McCain's staff, and then was originally reported by Fox.

And you still think it's MSNBC's fault.

When this disconnect is pointed out, you mention Fox's ratings (and got the facts wrong - twice! - In case it flew past you, which wouldn't be a surprise, CNN beat Fox in Primetime, dipshit).

What the fuck do their ratings have to do with this story?

And I know, I used some big words in there, so you probably got lost about half-way. Do you wonder why you are considered such a joke?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, November 14, 2008 12:35 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
FOX canceled FIREFLY after 13 episodes, (the bastards) FOX News and MSNBC have both been on 10 years, CNN over 25 years. People have had YEARS to pick who'd they trust more. FOX is'nt right-wing propiganda, it's just that balanced reporting looks ring-wing to you. The fact that MSNBC & CNN have been on for years and are getting there asses kicked by FOX says a lot.



You're missing my point. People, especially the ones deciding what to watch on television, are morons. The same people who chose "Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire" over "Firefly" are choosing to trust Fox news. Not saying that proves anything in particular about Fox News, but it certainly doesn't prove they're trustworthy.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

I do'nt think that people who watch MSNBC or CNN are "morons". I think they are misguided and in need of medication, enough time has passed for the masses to have made there chioce. I am no whore for FOX, BUT! Since BONES is my favorite show, and they've renewed T:TSCC, I'm going to cut them a little slack........for now.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

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Friday, November 14, 2008 12:37 PM

SWISH


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:

"Prime: FNC: 553 | CNN: 696 | MSNBC: 577 | HLN: 338"

So FOX beats MSNBC and CNN in primetime, when most people are watching TV, the time advertisers love, that's why they call it PRIMETIME!

In the world where I learned math, both 696 and 577 are bigger than 553. Where'd whozit learn his math? Fox?

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Friday, November 14, 2008 12:42 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by swish:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:

"Prime: FNC: 553 | CNN: 696 | MSNBC: 577 | HLN: 338"

So FOX beats MSNBC and CNN in primetime, when most people are watching TV, the time advertisers love, that's why they call it PRIMETIME!

In the world where I learned math, both 696 and 577 are bigger than 553. Where'd whozit learn his math? Fox?



I don't think even Fox News is that stupid.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, November 14, 2008 1:04 PM

MALBADINLATIN


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark: What the fuck do their ratings have to do with this story?
I apologize...my bad. I saw somebody say Fox wins in ratings all the time. Then I did this whole ratings thing. my bad.

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Friday, November 14, 2008 1:04 PM

WHOZIT


Well then enjoy MSNBC & CNN for your Pro-Obama news, if Barry screws up, or there are any scandels, that's where you can go to hear HIS side of the story. FOX will just make up stuff. You guys are rite, I'll go take my meds and lay down now. Tell Keith Olberman I said Hi.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

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Friday, November 14, 2008 1:20 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Well then enjoy MSNBC & CNN for your Pro-Obama news, if Barry screws up, or there are any scandels, that's where you can go to hear HIS side of the story. FOX will just make up stuff. You guys are rite, I'll go take my meds and lay down now. Tell Keith Olberman I said Hi.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin



You are like a petulant child. One that got called on his bullshit, and instead of owning up, stomping his wittle bootie-covered feet and stormed off to his room in a huff.

Go take a nap. Drink your juice. Then try playing with the grown-ups again.

Maybe next time you won't embarass yourself quite so badly (though I doubt it).

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, November 14, 2008 1:20 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by MalBadInLatin:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark: What the fuck do their ratings have to do with this story?
I apologize...my bad. I saw somebody say Fox wins in ratings all the time. Then I did this whole ratings thing. my bad.

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Not your bad. Zit brought them up first, as a complete non-sequiter.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, November 14, 2008 3:21 PM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
The same people who chose "Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire" over "Firefly" are choosing to trust Fox news.


If Fox News or even Rush had any real power, or a strong political influence with the masses, then Obama wouldn't have won. In many ways, Obama's win diminshes Fox News in the short term to mere muckraking whiners, nitpickers, and rebels without a cause. They ought to put it all aside for a spell and just show old movies in the time slot of 8-11. Come back in a couple of years guys when maybe you have something to say that matters anymore, or at least until your beloved Republican Party learns how to turn on a computer, or sign up a voter. Endless campaigning is really such a bore. Despite all the continued finger pointing of blame for the economy and the war on terror at Democrats from Fox and Republicans, the cold hard fact is that Bush's exit is leaving America in real bad shape, and that's just the ultimate insult to all of us. He's the President, it's all his responsiblity and legacy. Presidents aren't supposed to weaken a country, and then pass it off in the night with a wolf howling under a full moon. I'll give him his Dennis Miller 2,940 days without an attack in America stat, but that cannot justify in any way leaving America crippled, un-sure, weak, and vulnerable. It has to be a huge black mark of shame in history. Meanwhile, the country is floundering, and Bush goes on the air and says that some progress is being made, but to be prepared for worse economic times. Screw that! Sounds like an old Iraq speech from 2003. Obama, whether he can fix it all or not, needs to go in now. Paulson, and the rest of the WH have failed the country, and they should try to salvage an ounce of credibility by leaving this weekend. Pack up and get out. Obama can still have his Inauguration and fancy balls in January, but things need to be done now.

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Friday, November 14, 2008 3:48 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

You are like a petulant child. One that got called on his bullshit, and instead of owning up, stomping his wittle bootie-covered feet and stormed off to his room in a huff.

Seems to be the general reaction of the GOP as a whole, and almost the entirety of that end of the political spectrum, doesn't it ?

Think on that, long and hard if you're ever tempted to let those fuckers back in any office ever again for any reason, local or national.

Remember this moment, and remember what they are.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, November 14, 2008 4:48 PM

MALBADINLATIN


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Seems to be the general reaction of the GOP as a whole, and almost the entirety of that end of the political spectrum, doesn't it ?

Think on that, long and hard if you're ever tempted to let those fuckers back in any office ever again for any reason, local or national.

Remember this moment, and remember what they are.

-Frem

The GOP is terrified because the last thing they expected was for America to be more concerned about money than God. Having been nearly eradicated from the federal government, and coming soon the Supreme Court...or should I say retiring soon, Justice Stevens at 88, Justice Ginsburg at 75 and Justices Scalia and Kennedy at 72...They've become an island.

The only ordinance Conservatives and Republicans have is Rush, Fox news, and the scared shitless white christian redneck radio network.

Poor little fearfull Republicans. Nobody listens anymore.




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Monday, November 17, 2008 1:52 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Anyway...you didn't drown me in anything, you just told me there may have been another truth and go check it out...only not in nice words. I think you actually said blank blank mother! blank blank God! blank blank...Which didn't bother me much.

You know, I had to do it... since I was like "Which flaming rant WAS that, anyway..." must be gettin a bit senile in my golden years.

So of course I HAD to dig it up, three cheers for ThreadNoMancy...
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=35092

Yah, it was pretty harsh, but hey, if it encouraged even one person to actually learn something about it, which it clearly did, then it served it's purpose quite admirably.

Knowing history is a big part of not repeating it's mistakes.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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