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Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:00 PM

WULFENSTAR

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Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:19 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


What precisely does this have to do with Obama or his supporters?

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"We don't fear the reaper"

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Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:45 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I liked this headline better:

Quote:



Sarah Palin Holds Rally At Beaver High School



There's gotta be a tasteless joke in there somewhere...

Mike

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Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:50 PM

RIGHTEOUS9




don't be a jackass

that says nothing, nor is there any strong proof that she was personally injured because of the sticker in that article, nor would anybody in the obama campaign condon such an action or knowingly fratrinize with a person who did such a thing,

Let me see, there are over 300 million people in America, and i'l estimate that about a third of them support obama and a third of them support mccain, just to pull a number out of my ass.

How many crazy people do you think we can find on both sides of the aisle in 200 million people?

The Obama campaign has not been inciting hatred, and that is the distinction you should be seeing, as opposed to the palin and Mccain rallies, which seem to have brought out some crazies...

to the point where FINALLY, Mccain had to show some integrity and tell his audience that Obama is a family man, and that he's a decent person.

I commend him for doing so, but its his own campaign that has been feeding it.

You can't say the same for Obama. He hasn't attacked Mccain's patriotism, he hasn't suggested that Mccain doesn't believe in country first, and so on and so on.




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Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:52 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


This is my favorite! Snicker Snort!



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Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:05 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
This is my favorite! Snicker Snort!



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Oh. My. Gawd.

FMF, you just made my whole week!

Palin supports the Democrats!

I wonder how much that scarf cost the GOP. S'pose it came from Neiman-Marcus (aka "Needless Markups")?

Mike

What, no catchy sig-line?

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Friday, October 24, 2008 3:13 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


apparently someone at one of her rally's gave it to her.

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Friday, October 24, 2008 3:19 AM

KHYRON


Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
apparently someone at one of her rally's gave it to her.

I wonder what she thought when she got it. "Aww, look at the pwetty horsies!!"

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McCain/Palin: The first presidential ticket that features two candidates who have both been found to have violated ethics standards.

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Friday, October 24, 2008 3:43 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
What precisely does this have to do with Obama or his supporters?


Its anecdotal.

It means little in the grand scheme of things, yet serves to illistrate (rightly or wrongly) a concern or issue.

In this case it serves three roles.

First, it plays into the whole 'Barrack America' sentiment. We all recall the textbooks with the Obama Chapter, the kids singing the Obama praise song in school, the uniformed kids praising Obama, Berlin and 'Greek column' moments and so on.

Second, it serves to illistrate the violence and abuse that seems to be so common in this election. Cars with McCain stickers vandalized, Republican poll workers attacked by Democratic Poll workers, kid suspended from school for wearing McCain/Palin shirt, etc.

Third, this happened in western PA, region that Murtha said was full of racist rednecks and that Obama claims is filled with folks clinging to their guns and religeon. In other words a generally conservative blue-collar Democratic region that is suddenly 'in play'. If McCain wins PA, it will be because of western PA.

So right or wrong, this incident plays into those three areas.

H

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Friday, October 24, 2008 3:46 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


an yet there is nothing to link it to Obama or his supporters.

This is just more of the hysteria the RNC is trying to drum up to scare people.

While I abhor what happened to this young lady, there is NOTHING to suggest that this has anything to do with Obama.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
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“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

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Friday, October 24, 2008 4:09 AM

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Sure thing Future.

These type of people are YOUR constiuants.

The lowest of the low. The most ignorant of the ignorant.

In other words,

The animals.



But hey, whatever.

McCains folks are the greedy rich bastards.

So for the 2% of folks in the country who actually ARE intelligent, we get screwed either way.

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Friday, October 24, 2008 4:16 AM

RIGHTEOUS9




How is violence akin to love and praise?

And you seriously think this street guy was listening to Fox News and heard what Murtha said?

And still Hero, for everything you cite I could easily give you an example from the other side, and the distinction would still be that Obama's campaign has not fostered anti-Mccain sentiment, sentiment that goes to the heart of Mccain's motive, and patriotism.

You are, to put it lightly, full of shit, but you do keep yourself well polished.

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Friday, October 24, 2008 4:29 AM

WASHNWEAR


Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
an yet there is nothing to link it to Obama or his supporters.

This is just more of the hysteria the RNC is trying to drum up to scare people.

While I abhor what happened to this young lady, there is NOTHING to suggest that this has anything to do with Obama.



I've read 4 different reports of this incident this morning (and at this point they don't differ much), and several things strike me as...funny...

1.)Rob first, then take a few extra seconds to mutilate as sort of an after-thought? If my original intent going in was to rob somebody at knife-point, I think my next original intent would be to get the hell away from the scene of the crime. I would have to be a hell of a lot more devoted to Obama than I am to hang around carving initials into the face of my victim. I would find this aspect a little more believable if the order of events was beating/monogramming followed by "Oh, and BTW, give me your dough."

2.) The photo on the 'Net shows what looks like a backward "B" on the lady's right cheek. It does not - in that photo, anyway - look like a deep cut; it looks more like a B-shaped scratch. I think you would have to take a little time and be careful to produce what's in the photo, that is, a fairly bloodless scratch instead of a jagged, bloody mess. And I'm pretty sure that scratching a "B" backwards into someone's cheek is at least a little more time-consuming than doing it forwards. (According to a couple of articles I read, no official police photo had yet been taken of the victim, and I haven't run across a credit yet for the photo that's appearing online.)

Okay, there was a 3.), but it got annexed by 2.). Anyway, echoing FMF, if this attack is the real deal, then my sympathies to the young lady and I hope they get the rat-bastard who did it. But I'm smellin' a whole lot of "Now, wait a minute" comin' off this scenario...


It was like that when we got here!

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Friday, October 24, 2008 5:11 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Righteous9:
And still Hero, for everything you cite I could easily give you an example from the other side,


That is true to some extent.

But the spin on Barrack is 'the chosen one'...seen very much as a negative cult of personality that is frightening to some people. McCain has no such image. In fact this image problem is a BIG part of the reason Barrack has failed to break away in this overwhelming Democratic climate (Berlin nearly sank him). One could reasonable argue that, but for the economic crisis, these polls are likely just as close, but with McCain on top.

One of the biggest mistakes the Democrats made was in not painting Palin with the 'chosen one' brush. Choosing instead to paint her as 'just another idiot' (which anyone who has seen her interviews, with one exception, or seen her speak in person can dispute). The personal attacks on her intellegence and character hurt the Democrats by elevating her status, making the public take real interest in her, and setting her up to exceed expectations again and again. They should have painted her as a media hound, cashing in on her 15minutes and as the conservative 'chosen one' and Hillary wanna-be which would have diluted many of the 'Barrack America' fears people have.

H

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Friday, October 24, 2008 5:21 AM

RIGHTEOUS9




But Palin is the single most negative factor right now of the Mccain campaign Hero...people have not disagreed with those democratic attacks on Palin.

If your point is that Mccain and his campaign have succesfully painted Obama as the chosen one, well who the hell's fault is that?

He certainly hasn't said it personally, except for when he was mocking it at that fundraiser.

If some people see him as representing hope and a better tomorrow, who can blame them, really.

But Obama's politics are hardly messianic. He's more conservative than Presidents we've had in the past. He's just well left of Bush and Mccain, and that aint hard.


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Friday, October 24, 2008 5:37 AM

FREMDFIRMA


It smells a lot like those Swastika defacements which always seem to wind up actually committed by folks wanting to play victim to pull on the sympathy heartstring to me.

To be downright crassly blunt, I'm pretty sure she did that herself as a way to "justify" the unreasoning hatred she feels for anyone who doesn't see the world the way she does - I've seen that shit often enough to be fairly certain of it.

But on the other hand, lemme also be crassly blunt and straight fucking tell you - the Modern Republican Party *DESERVES* the level of hate you described, fully and utterly, due to their lies, economic destruction, invasions and slaughters, shovelling our money into the pockets of the rich, letting a buncha fucking terrorists loose on us under the guise of official sanction just because they supposedly work for us, never putting the towers back up, fucking over any right to privacy or to be left alone, letting our whole infrastructure crumble till it rots, I could go on for four HOURS and never run out of gas or repeat myself...

I say you should feel damn LUCKY that Liberals in general, and as a whole, are a merciful bunch, cause while I would not participate, if the rage ever tripped the million-monkey point and they started lynching you treacherous bastards, I would not participate, but damned if I would stop it either.

You and your ilk have preached hatred and fear until the whole damned country is reeking with it, and then have the nerve to bitch when it winds up coming full circle and is directed at the very folk who've given the people the most cause to hate and fear them ?

Don't dare come bitchin to me when the crows YOU and yours set loose come back to roost on your own balcony, cause you ain't got no-one else to blame, when it comes down to it.

So far as I've seen it, Obamas mostly preachin hope, rebuilding, and reconciliation, and you oughta be damn thankful for it - cause if you left it up to me, I'd rather have Sharpton or Farrakhan all up your ass instead, see how YOU like being on the receiving end of hatred and bigotry for once.

Don't come lookin for sympathy here, bub.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, October 24, 2008 5:49 AM

RIGHTEOUS9




I'm not going to speculate what happened to her. We got a preliminary reporting on it, so I won't jump to this woman having done this to herself. If this happened to her, and worse, if this happened to her because of her choice of parties, I can't say that that kind of hatred is well placed. Just as you yourself said that you need the repubs to stay frosty and active when Obama gets into office, we really all do need each other to a great extent. this woman, unless, god forbid she really did do this to herself(and I don't have any facts to suggest this), is from my perspective, a believer.

It doesn't make her a bad guy to be in my opinion, wrong. It makes her misinformed, maybe, and I'm not going to hold 50 percent of our populace up as equally blamable for what has occured in this country. Granted, the problem is systemic, and we all are to blame, especially those of us who are misinformed, or are the misinformers...but there has been no collective call to get informed until recently(which is the one good thing about the financial crisis).

There has been no top down reminder of social and political responsibility of the citizen in this nation, there has been a breakdown in education, and a breakdown in values about just what the American Citizen is responsible for. All we were told was to let daddy take care of it while we go shopping.

It's hard to specifically blame each and every person for being ignorant in this country, when that seems to be an American Value after all.




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Friday, October 24, 2008 5:53 AM

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Damn Frem,

Calm down.

"I'd rather have Sharpton or Farrakhan all up your ass instead, see how YOU like being on the receiving end of hatred and bigotry for once."

Been there, done that. Didn't like it, nor would I want anyone else to go thru it.

"Liberals in general, and as a whole, are a merciful bunch"... i.e. LAZY

lol

"If the rage ever tripped the million-monkey point and they started lynching you treacherous bastards, I would not participate, but damned if I would stop it either."

Good to know.

"million-monkey point..." LMAO!

But its whatever.

Conservatives are no better than Libs.

EXCEPT I don't see a bunch of Bible-bangers robbing folks, and then carving M in their victims faces...

The guy who did this...well, he should be

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Friday, October 24, 2008 6:20 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

"Liberals in general, and as a whole, are a merciful bunch"... i.e. LAZY

ROFL, you're starting to catch my little subtleties... not bad, not bad at all...

And here I was so tryin not to say that out loud.
Quote:

Good to know.

Wouldn't stop it in the other direction neither, let both radical ends of the spectrum slaughter each other, worlds better off without em anyhows.
Quote:

"million-monkey point..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_Monkey
In humans it applies in a manner of gestalt I call a "sea change", when suddenly enough folk believe something that it then becomes popular and socially acceptable to believe it, and it's like a tidal bore coming in when it happens.
Study a bit of middle-ages history for some good examples.
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Conservatives are no better than Libs.

Amen.
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EXCEPT I don't see a bunch of Bible-bangers robbing folks, and then carving M in their victims faces...

Ever been to Florida ?

Damn cretins SHOT at us, buncha religious ultra-crispy nutters took issue to a certain pagan gathering down there, started takin potshots at em - to which, one young ruthless bastard was sent in response, and after realizing truck radiators are damned expensive, the locals decided that maybe it wasn't worth botherin them no more... that was before I developed the depth perception issues which now make anythin more than a hundred yards a waste of ammo, though.

I don't doubt the chick was robbed, mind you, and whomever did it should have their balls crushed in a garlic press - but I have my doubts about the scratchwork, it's too damn neat for a thug, and that's comin from someone who used to BE one, yanno.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, October 24, 2008 6:25 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

EXCEPT I don't see a bunch of Bible-bangers robbing folks, and then carving M in their victims faces...
Nah... they just drag 'em behind a truck while parts fly off, piece by piece.


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Friday, October 24, 2008 6:44 AM

WULFENSTAR

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*sigh

Yes Sigy, some rednecks HAVE done that. But I doubt it was for their political beliefs...

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Friday, October 24, 2008 6:47 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Where do you separate racism (on either side, since blacks can be racists too) from politics?

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Let's party like its 1929.

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Friday, October 24, 2008 7:03 AM

STORYMARK


Te more I read about it, the less convinving her story is. The police are now saying her story has changed, and is inconsistant. they have given her a lie-detector test, but I havn't seen the results.

But it just seems a little too convenient that this happened hours after McCain's campaign says, in PA, that violence will break out amongst Obama supporters if they loose. And then there's the black eye with no swelling of burst blood vessels in the eye. Setting aside the "B" being backwards (which seems like something one would do if looking in a mirror), it seems awfully neat to have been downe while holding down a struggling woman. And why wouldn't she seek medical attention, unless she didn't want the true nature of her injury exposed?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, October 24, 2008 7:28 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Sigy,

Racism CAN (as in maybe, might, could be) have a political side to it.

But, there are a lot of Republicans out there who are NOT racist. Just as there are a lot of democrats who ARE.

Political leanings vary and for a whole host of reasons.



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Friday, October 24, 2008 7:30 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Agree Storymark - there's a lotta if coming off this story... "happened outside the view of the bank's surveillance cameras" and like you say, no medical treatment to examine her wounds more closely. A backwards "B" - wtf?! - almost funny if the story wasn't so sad.
And they throw in some sexual assault almost as an after thought, "She also indicated she was sexually assaulted as well." Was that before or after she lost consciousness? This guy sure took his time and most atms aren't exactly hidden, this one's on a busy street.
And how did the right wing blog sarahsarmy.blogspot.com get involved (view the clip)?

This is so whack.

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Friday, October 24, 2008 7:33 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
But it just seems a little too convenient...


But... but... but it was done by a large scary black man! Out of sight of the security camera... And he knew which car was hers, even though she clearly didn't have time to get into it...
>.>
<.<
...But it was a large scary black man, what more proof do you need?




You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.

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Friday, October 24, 2008 7:39 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


How many cars with Bush stickers have been run off the road or keyed in the past 8 years?

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Friday, October 24, 2008 7:40 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Yeah Phoenix...

It was her fault for being all white AND a woman too!

Right?
Right?

Yeah! She was just ASKING for it!


(As a side note..her being a Republican and NOT having a gun on her? WTF?)

Had it been MY wife...heh. This animal would have been put down with 2 in the head.

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Friday, October 24, 2008 7:48 AM

RIGHTEOUS9


well a knife in the hand is better than a gun in the purse.

For now, I'm going to assume that the woman was heinously attacked, and let the people involved sort out waht's true and what's not,

but as to motivation for the assault, well, there's another thing nobody should be jumping to conclusions about,

Wulf

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Friday, October 24, 2008 7:52 AM

RIGHTEOUS9



Heheh


whoops...that was fast. I should have gone to my news site before my last post

http://kdka.com/

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Friday, October 24, 2008 7:53 AM

STORYMARK


More inconsistancies: Aside from the cameras at the ATM not recording the incident, they didn't show her go to the machine at all, nor was her card used.

Also, she live-blogged about her search for an ATM in a rough neighborhood (how hard is it to find an ATM in a city these days? She needed to go to the inner city for it?) on Twitter. She had never blogged about such innocuous activities before (her blog being mostly stuff from McCai/Palin rallies).

Even super Right-winger Michelle Malkin is starting to call BS on this.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, October 24, 2008 7:53 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Muggers for Obama in Kenya murdered 1,000 Christians, including 50 arsoned to death in their church with the doors padlocked. Obama supporters raped both women and men in Kenya, when Obama's cousin lost the election for president. 800 Christian churches were arsoned by Obama's radical Muslim terrorist army, creating 350,000 refugees. So Kenya was forced to creat the non job of prime minister for Obama's Commie cousin.
www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78132

Hussien Obama is a citizen of Kenya. His granny brags he was born in Kenya.
www.obamacrimes.com

Obama Mass Hypnosis Manual
www.pennypresslv.com/Obama%27s_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_Hi
s_Speeches.pdf

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Friday, October 24, 2008 7:54 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
It was her fault for being all white AND a woman too!

Right?
Right?

Yeah! She was just ASKING for it!


Oh yes, I'm attacked by large scary black men every week, doncha know. They often carve backwards letters into my face (illiterate, I imagine) and beat on me and fondle me just because they can. I never get medical exams or treatment, though. Of course I wish they were caught, but I'd have to pay for all the exams and gathering of evidence, and I'm just your average middle-class girl, don't have millions of dollars in assets like my superiors over in the castle.

You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.

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Friday, October 24, 2008 7:55 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Michelle Malkin smells a lot of if as well.....


Why that McCain volunteer’s “mutilation” story smells awfully weird; Update: Police to administer polygraph; conflicting evidence at scene
By Michelle Malkin • October 23, 2008 06:43 PM Scroll down for updates…”Police planned to administer a polygraph test to Ashley Todd, 20, because her statements about the attack conflict with evidence from the Citizens Bank ATM where she claims the incident occurred, police said”…and more below on following her MySpace, Twitter, and Facebook trails…10/24…more fishiness

Throughout my career, I’ve covered dozens of fake hate crimes — campus hate crime hoaxes, Muslim hate crime hoaxes, fake noose hangings, etc., etc., etc. Most were perpetrated by liberals, but there have been some shameful ones on our side of the aisle as well.

I’ve reported on the great lengths that warped attention-seekers have gone to in perpetrating fake hate crimes, including beating themselves up, carving swastikas on their dorm room doors and walls, locking themselves in bathroom stalls, and burning down their own houses.

Which is why I’m not jumping up and down with outrage over Drudge-promoted story of a McCain volunteer claiming to have been attacked by a black man whom she accused of carving a “B” in her face after spotting her McCain bumper sticker.

She refused medical treatment after reporting the incident to police. Why on earth would she do that?

Look at her face (photo via Hot Air):



What’s wrong with the “B?”

I share my reader Kathy’s suspicions on this. She writes:

Notice how the “B” is backwards on the right cheek……if you were looking in a mirror and put it on your own face…it would appear backwards and would probably be on your own right cheek (due to most folks are right handed)……she put it on her own face but forgot it would show up backwards.

She may have been robbed and beaten but I think she added the “B”….

Take a close look at the picture.
Maaaaybe the alleged robber straddled her upside-down while carving it into her face.

Maybe.

But I’ve got my doubts.

(Update: And yes, as many readers have pointed out, it’s also the neatness and superficiality of that “B” that also raises red flags. See my police officer reader’s e-mail below.)

The woman has been identified as GOP volunteer Ashley Todd of Texas. Her Twitter page is here and I find it, well, odd.

This seems to me to have shades of Paul Mirecki (note that there was a photo in that case, too), Sarah Marshak, and Tawana Brawley all over it.

If I’m wrong, I’ll apologize. If I’m right, will this woman?

It needs to be said — and since it is not said often enough by those on the other side of the political aisle, I’ll say it again:

We have enough low-lifes and thugs in the world running loose and causing campaign chaos and fomenting hatred without having to make them up. I’ve been blowing the whistle on the real, left-wing rage not on the front page and in-your-face tactics throughout the election season.

Hate crimes hoaxes — by anyone, of any political persuasion, and of any color — diminish us all.

Either way, I hope that Todd gets the help she needs, that the whole truth comes out, and that justice is served on the perpetrator.

Whoever he or she may be.

***

Ace weighs in.

And from a reader who is a police officer:

“I’m a cop - 8th year now - and this McCain supporter attack just didn’t pass the “smell test” as soon as I read about it.

At this point, I’ll guess the shiner was inflicted either by a friend willingly as part of this hoax or a boyfriend in a domestic dispute.

The “B” is far to[o] shallow and clean to be taken seriously. Reminds me of the stab wounds that a “hero” would get when fighting off a phantom attacker - far to[o] superficial to have been done in what is a fairly violent encounter.

Either way, I’m voting McCain
***

Update 1am Eastern: Via Pittsburgh Tribune-Review…

A knife-wielding man robbed a McCain-Palin campaign volunteer and etched a “B” into her face after he saw a McCain bumper sticker on her car, the woman told Pittsburgh police.

Police planned to administer a polygraph test to Ashley Todd, 20, because her statements about the attack conflict with evidence from the Citizens Bank ATM where she claims the incident occurred, police said.
FYI: Todd’s MySpace page has been turned private, but cached links are here.

Her Facebook profile has been deleted, but the cached front page is here.

Update 9:30am Eastern 10/24: She told police the assailant sat on her chest and pinned her hands down with his knees.

So much for all those thinking the attacker was upside-down with her head between his knees.

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Friday, October 24, 2008 7:56 AM

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check my link

she confessed to lying

and Wulf,

maybe you shouldn't be so compulsive in the future?

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Nice little quote on that page.

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Friday, October 24, 2008 8:01 AM

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Apparently she has confessed to making it up.

http://kdka.com/local/attack.McCain.Bloomfield.2.847628.html

She should be charged with a hate crime.

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Friday, October 24, 2008 8:01 AM

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Shit.

IF this is/was a hoax....that pisses me off.

Edited: Phoenix...a FUCKING HATE CRIME?!!!

Oh thats right, if it happens to someone who is white, its just plain old crime...if it happens to someone who is black...its a hate crime...

Somehow I keep forgetting that.


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Friday, October 24, 2008 8:03 AM

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Someone find some crow for Wulf, and maybe some salt and ketchup as well.




Oh goodness, this is bad.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/fox-news-vp-if-mccain-wor_
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I expect that wulfenstar will come on here as soon as he hears to make a full retraction of his slander by false association of all Obama supporters...and use that tried and true talent to now paint all Mccain supporters with the broad brush of lying drama queens.

any time now...

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"I expect that wulfenstar will come on here as soon as he hears to make a full retraction of his slander by false association of all Obama supporters...and use that tried and true talent to now paint all Mccain supporters with the broad brush of lying drama queens.

any time now..."



If I was wrong in believing this woman, then I apologize.






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Friday, October 24, 2008 8:24 AM

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Thanks Wulf,

that does mean something.

It was unexpected, but then it just shows how little a lot of us know about you. good to have you in the community

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Friday, October 24, 2008 8:37 AM

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Note that he's appologizing for believing her, not for his broader implications about Obama supporters.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, October 24, 2008 8:39 AM

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where he put the focus was different, somewhat oblique,

but in a way, its the same thing. He believed her mostly because he has a certain prejudice against the democratic party and Obama supporters. He's apologizing for making that leap of logic based upon unverified, unsound tropes...

or am i reading too much in here?

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Quote:

Fox News VP: If McCain Worker 'Mutilation' Story Is a Hoax His Campaign Is 'Over'


"If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain's quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/fox-news-vp-if-mccain-wor_
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gee, that came from FOX - it must be true....

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"Obama Supporters.

'Nuff said."

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Wulfie, THIS is what you need to apologize for. Not b/c you believed a repubican lying sack of shit (or maybe that's redundant) but b/c you smeared every person who supports Obama.

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PS I just thought I'd give you a little taste of the politically-based hatred that you so unthinkingly dish out.

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"where he put the focus was different, somewhat oblique,

but in a way, its the same thing. He believed her mostly because he has a certain prejudice against the democratic party and Obama supporters. He's apologizing for making that leap of logic based upon unverified, unsound tropes...

or am i reading too much in here?"

No, Righteous, you are not reading too much here. You are correct.

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thanks Wulf

"i Pardon you"

and not in the way the guy did in Shindler's list

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Friday, October 24, 2008 8:54 AM

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Well,

Thats just a relief....lol

And this woman....ok, wtf?

Why did she do this? What was her motivation?

And before we all go pointing fingers.... don't pretend like all of Bama's supporters are sweet, innocent lambs.

Oh, and btw, just so you know....

I hate both parties equally.

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Friday, October 24, 2008 8:56 AM

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if I were going to speculate wildly, and make up my own condition..

martyrdom syndrome?

I imagine she's also persecuted for her faith in Jesus.

Christians are so reviled and defiled in our nation, as you are well aware.

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