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Friday, October 3, 2008 7:43 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

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Friday, October 3, 2008 7:47 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/03/news/economy/house_friday_bailout/inde
x.htm?postversion=2008100309



It hasn't been signed yet. Maybe you could find a way to steal the President's pen.

H

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Friday, October 3, 2008 7:50 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Revolution?

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Friday, October 3, 2008 7:50 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Revolution?

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Friday, October 3, 2008 7:51 AM

WHOZIT


The word is FUCK! I feel your pain........in my wallet

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Friday, October 3, 2008 7:54 AM

WULFENSTAR

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From Wiki-how...

HOW TO START A REVOLUTION!

"There are times when it is necessary to fight against things that have become so wrong that they should no longer be. Things that were once small that have become big, but are no less wrong, must be made small again; a revolution, or a complete circle, is needed. Whether you want your brother to stop giving you wedgies, or you want to overthrow a repressive government, every fight is the same. A revolution (from the Latin revolutio, "a turnaround") is a significant change that usually occurs in a short period of time. Revolutions have happened throughout human history and vary widely in terms of methods, duration, motivating ideology, and the number of participating revolutionaries. Their results include major changes in culture, economy, and socio-political institutions."

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Friday, October 3, 2008 7:55 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Revolution?

Revolt against who? McCain, Obama & Biden voted for it, the only one in the race who did'nt is Palin.

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Friday, October 3, 2008 7:55 AM

WULFENSTAR

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They no longer listen to us.

(Loading my guns as I write)

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Friday, October 3, 2008 7:56 AM

WULFENSTAR

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They are ALL guilty.

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Friday, October 3, 2008 7:59 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
They are ALL guilty.

Nope, can't blame Sarah for this.

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Friday, October 3, 2008 8:02 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Pffth, ain't the time to waste ammo on it, Wulf, not yet...

They just handed you a platinum plated invitation to ram this up their ass crossways while exploiting the rage of your community.

RECALL them, fucking fire them, dude.

Get that ball rolling and get it goin quick while everyone is still pissed off and before the mainstream media propoganda machine starts with the damage control.

You wanted a chance to cut these bastards out and get some third party folk in, well you're looking down the barrel of it - don't fuck it up by going solo, go round up those angry folks and run these treacherous fuckers out of town on a rail.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, October 3, 2008 8:03 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




Good. Now we won't have martial law by the dictator. Replacing Congress with Jewish banksters is a great idea. Or STFU and vote 3rd party.
Quote:



In House debate on the banker “rescue” bill, Rep. Brad Sherman told his fellow Congress critters the government will declare martial law and the stock market will drop 3,000 points if the bill is not passed. “The panic-mongers were to the point of telling people the market would drop 3,000 points and there would be martial law,” said Sherman.
www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=35115

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, heh heh heh, just so long as I'm the dictator, heh heh heh. You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on. I don't give a goddamn! I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way! Stop throwing the Constitution in my face! It's just a goddamned piece of paper! A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, no question about it."
-George W Bush, hereditary dictator





Democrats say martial law and no election if Congress impeaches Jr Bush






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Friday, October 3, 2008 8:06 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Pffth, ain't the time to waste ammo on it, Wulf, not yet...

They just handed you a platinum plated invitation to ram this up their ass crossways while exploiting the rage of your community.

RECALL them, fucking fire them, dude.

Get that ball rolling and get it goin quick while everyone is still pissed off and before the mainstream media propoganda machine starts with the damage control.

You wanted a chance to cut these bastards out and get some third party folk in, well you're looking down the barrel of it - don't fuck it up by going solo, go round up those angry folks and run these treacherous fuckers out of town on a rail.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

Nader 08?

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Friday, October 3, 2008 8:07 AM

WULFENSTAR

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If not now, when?

The government just took over the free market.

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Friday, October 3, 2008 8:13 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Again,

For those interested.

browncoatsforfreedom@hotmail.com


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Friday, October 3, 2008 8:33 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Useful info, this took a bit cause the sites are overloaded due to the amount of outraged bitchin goin on...

List of who voted which way, Senate.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/ roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00213
(spaced)

List of who voted which way, House.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll681.xml

Levin was prettymuch expected, if something is harmful or hurtful to us peons, he's always all for it...

Dingell on the other hand, well let's just say he's pretty pissed at me, that's too bad Johnny boy, and while your rant was exceptional in quality, you kinda missed the point of who backstabbed who...

Ain't it funny how folks who'll stand and deliver when the Gov wants to confiscate your guns, seem unable to find any testicles when the Gov wants to confiscate your wallet ?

Fuck em, they've no idea of the hell they just unleashed, all of america is extremely pissed, and although I can hope for it, I kinda doubt everyone is gonna display good sense in how they react to matters.

Y'all MIGHT wanna add a side trip to the store and load up on some canned goods, bottled water and whatnot, just in case - Kroger's having a decent sale on such anyhow, so it's not really putting yourself out.

Just a suggestion, people.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, October 3, 2008 8:44 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Additional Information.

How to Recall a State Representative
http://www.ehow.com/how_2096899_recall-state-representative.html

Only 18 states allow it, if you ain't one of em, get behind this instead.
http://patrick.net/housing/contrib/recall.html

Alas for the rest of ya, we have a bit of an edge here in Michigan, having a history of chewing ass quite successfully on matters like this.
http://www.mitaxpayers.org/recall1983.html

So good luck to ya, folks,

EDIT: and for any of y'all actually from Michigan...
Ball's rollin already, hit em up here if you're with us.
http://www.michiganrecalls.com/index.html

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, October 3, 2008 8:47 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


My Senators... both of them... let me down. But my Rep???

AWESOME!!!

Woooo hooooo!

Write: letters to the editor. To your Senators. To your Representative. WRITE ON A PIECE OF PAPER. That counts way more than phoning or email or those electronic petitions. Tell them how you feel, and why. Provide them with alternatives, if you have any. GET YOUR FRIENDS TO WRITE. Elections are coming up. Make them feel the cold wind of their political mortality on the backs of their necks. AFTER the elections, keep up the pressure! Purchasing toxic debts will take time. There may be willingness to reconsider.

If you are so inclined, demonstrate. Stop by your local office IN PERSON. Be passionate, but polite.

If all else fails, and your Congressperson has a long history of truly horrific decisions... Vote third party. If that fails, go the recall route.

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Let's party like its 1929.

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Friday, October 3, 2008 8:47 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Frem

Good information. I've bookmarked the sites.

Thanks.

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Silence is consent.

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Friday, October 3, 2008 8:48 AM

WULFENSTAR

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When the government fails

Its time for the people to stand.

Do they really think that we are going to stand for this?

We are NOT the sheeple they believe us to be.

Time to pull off the disguises and show the wolves underneath.


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Friday, October 3, 2008 9:01 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Calm down Wulfman. There weren't many options this late in the game, unless you were willing to witness a complete meltdown leading to worldwide depression. This money and plan is both an emergency kit to stop the bleeding and paralysis, and it's also a psychological play to soothe foreign investors not to pull every cent out of our country.

They'll be plenty of time to fix things properly, and punish those who committed fraud, or aided and abetted criminal activity.

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Friday, October 3, 2008 9:09 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Meh, and just that fast, they pulled out on us...

Seems someone offered Mr. Norquist (yes, Grover Norquist, the ole bastard hisself) a substantive contribution to his own causes to dump us off.

And of course both of Leons email boxes are now deleted, buncha jerks...

Not like that's gonna freakin stop us, but it's a pain in the ass all the same - and yes, for anyone that bothers to investigate, I know full and well those guys are bullshit partisan hacks only interested in chopping Democrats, but when it's a pair of Dems I WANT to hack down, that'd make em some pretty good go-to-guys, wouldn't it ?

More Info as I have it.

-F

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Friday, October 3, 2008 10:06 AM

WHOZIT

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Friday, October 3, 2008 10:58 AM

SERGEANTX


So, I'm wondering how many of the 70-90% who were opposed to this will now turn right around and vote for the assholes who passed it (Obama and McCain, for example)? If American voters had the slightest shred of self respect both of them would be finished.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Friday, October 3, 2008 11:05 AM

SERGEANTX


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
They'll be plenty of time to fix things properly, and punish those who committed fraud, or aided and abetted criminal activity.



I take it you're referring to the senators and congressmen who voted for this piece of shit?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Friday, October 3, 2008 12:05 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Gonna be... discriminating... in my vote. Boxer, mostly, votes OK. But Feinstein??? fuggedabbadit



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Let's party like its 1929.

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Friday, October 3, 2008 3:28 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Again,

For those interested.

browncoatsforfreedom@hotmail.com




Perhaps you should go ahead and post your home address so the secret service can save some time.



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Friday, October 3, 2008 4:10 PM

SERGEANTX


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Gonna be... discriminating... in my vote. Boxer, mostly, votes OK. But Feinstein??? fuggedabbadit



Are you gonna vote for Obama?


SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Friday, October 3, 2008 4:49 PM

JRC


Since there are other links from Youtube, thought I'd throw this in the mix to get some of your opinions:



In November, I'm voting for those in Congress who DID NOT vote for the $700 billion....Dems or Republicans!!!!!



Everyone dies alone.

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Friday, October 3, 2008 5:38 PM

ELVISCHRIST


Quote:

Originally posted by JRC:

In November, I'm voting for those in Congress who DID NOT vote for the $700 billion....Dems or Republicans!!!!!



Everyone dies alone.



I'm with you.

Unfortunately for me, that means I won't be voting for either of my incumbent Senators, since they both voted "Yea". Of course, since they're both long-time Bushies (Kay Bailey Hutchison and John Cornyn), I wasn't going to be giving them any support in the first place

But I *DO* get to vote to keep my Representative, Lloyd Doggett.

Not sure what I'm going to do on the Presidential election, though. Write in Ron Paul, maybe. It's a wasted vote, but it's a symbolic protest at any rate.

EC




If the prefix "pro-" means "for" or "in favor of", and "con" is its opposite, and if "progress" means "pushing forward" or "improving"... then what the hell does "Congress" mean?

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Saturday, October 4, 2008 1:05 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Just so you can complain about specifics, here's CNNMoney's breakdown of the bill.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/03/news/economy/house_bill_summary/index.
htm?postversion=2008100316


And for those with a lot of time, here's a link to the whole thing.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.1424.eas:

I was out of the country the last three weeks, on a Danube river cruise with NPR talk show host Diane Rehm and about 120 mostly lib\dem fans. They seemed very pro-bailout. Wonder why the differerence between them and the libs here.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Saturday, October 4, 2008 1:56 AM

KHYRON


Welcome back, Geezer. I'm a little jealous that you got to go on a cruise on the Danube ...

Anyway, I've been keeping out of this discussion, mostly because I think it's very short-sighted to be so against the bail-out (how many jobs will be lost and how many homes foreclosed if Wall Street isn't bailed out?) and I don't have the time to get dragged into pointless debates, but I hypothesize that part of the backlash stems from this not being so much of a partisan issue, but more of a class issue, a us-against-the-corrupt-corporate-elites kind of thing. I expect that the people on the cruise were generally perhaps a bit better off financially than the average American, so they didn't see it from that perspective.

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Trolls against McCain, you betcha!

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Saturday, October 4, 2008 2:37 AM

SERGEANTX


Quote:

Originally posted by Khyron:
I hypothesize that part of the backlash stems from this not being so much of a partisan issue, but more of a class issue, a us-against-the-corrupt-corporate-elites kind of thing. I expect that the people on the cruise were generally perhaps a bit better off financially than the average American, so they didn't see it from that perspective.



While there are no doubt many who looked it the issue on principle, you're probably right. It certainly wasn't partisan and seemed to have more to do with pure self-interest. The people who wanted to keep the whole credit orgy moving, and those who'd be just as happy to see it come tumbling down.

That's why the press has been so uniform in it's message that "something must be done", cynically discounting the public's rejection of the bill as a "populist revolt". They seem confident they can smooth this over and placate everyone with the usually media head games. They're probably right, but I'm hoping this will wake a few more people up.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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